Kuma vs. Zoro will be like Zoro vs. Arlong.
It will end in epic failure~
Kuma vs. Zoro will be like Zoro vs. Arlong.
It will end in epic failure~
Zoro lost lots of Blood, & had a fresh wound from Mihawk, but still over came Hacchan, That reason why Zoro could not beat Arlong. At this time Zoro is in far better shape then he was in the Arlong Arc. During the whole time in the East Blue, Zoro was in battles after battles missing Liters of Blood. Not much love for the Pirate Hunter.
How come?Ryuma/Oz fights,anyone?
Zoro lost lots of Blood, & had a fresh wound from Mihawk, but still over came Hacchan, That reason why Zoro could not beat Arlong. At this time Zoro is in far better shape then he was in the Arlong Arc. During the whole time in the East Blue, Zoro was in battles after battles missing Liters of Blood. Not much love for the Pirate Hunter.
He's not going to win…it doesn't matter if he hasn't lost tons of blood, he's not beating a Shichibukai after being already beaten up. You can't compare the other fights he had, cannon fodder and Mr. 1, to a Shichibukai, one with a bounty, an OLD bounty, nearly as high as Luffy's
Beat´s me. The dialog in chapter 443 was like:
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Eronious! Eronious on both accounts! :P
He's not going to win…it doesn't matter if he hasn't lost tons of blood, he's not beating a Shichibukai after being already beaten up.
When did the last chapter come out Oda?
Zoro has been in worse conditions then this, yet won when "already beaten up."
You can't compare the other fights he had, cannon fodder and Mr. 1, to a Shichibukai, one with a bounty, an OLD bounty, nearly as high as Luffy's
Zoro is aiming for Hawkeye's, beating Kuma would put him one step closer to his dream. IMO.
He's not going to win…it doesn't matter if he hasn't lost tons of blood, he's not beating a Shichibukai after being already beaten up. You can't compare the other fights he had, cannon fodder and Mr. 1, to a Shichibukai, one with a bounty, an OLD bounty, nearly as high as Luffy's
spreadin' words of wisdom….........
Okay,ill STOP singing now.Promise.
Or WILL I?!!!!!!!!
(insert maniacal laughter)
Who let you out of the dumb predictions thread kaimei? get back into your cage!
Heh, you have to admit, there are not that many pet goats out there, specially little ones.
But who knows, maybe Sengoku ate the Cheese Fruit or maybe his grandpa is a very powerful person…
When did the last chapter come out Oda?
Zoro has been in worse conditions then this, yet won when "already beaten up."Zoro is aiming for Hawkeye's, beating Kuma would put him one step closer to his dream. IMO.
No it wouldn't. No. There's a time and place for everything, now's not some pivotal moment in Zoro's story, its' the aftermath of Luffy and the SHs beating Thriller Barque/Bark/BarKu. Jimbei, I'm going to regret this, but where's the love for Kuma? He just appeared in the midst of the Odz fight, talked to Moria, then came down here to beat a bunch of worn out SHs…only to lose to a not-hundred-percent Zoro? What kind of ending is that for a shichibukai, especially after Moria just went out like a monster? You're asking for Kuma to be fodder to Zoro...that's not cool.
Mihawk may be a long way away, and they'll be a lot of strong guys for Zoro to fight. There's no reason that Zoro can or can't fight Mihawk if he loses this fight--especially after losing to Arlong, Enel, and Odz (one-on-one) already. He's already beaten a legendary zombie samurai--I think that'd be enough.
People have to stop acting like it's "now or never" for characters to prove themselves. These guys have boatloads of time to accomplish their dreams.
plus,if the jump festa news are corect and Oda wont have too much fun,in a year we may see some REAL chance for Zoro to prove himself.
Geeze, you're all talking like if you could predict what kind of crap Oda will pull the next chapter to keep his damn job at Jump.
No it wouldn't. No. There's a time and place for everything, now's not some pivotal moment in Zoro's story, its' the aftermath of Luffy and the SHs beating Thriller Barque/Bark/BarKu.
How would Zoro beating Kuma not put him one step closer to his Dream?
Jimbei, I'm going to regret this, but where's the love for Kuma? He just appeared in the midst of the Odz fight, talked to Moria, then came down here to beat a bunch of worn out SHs…only to lose to a not-hundred-percent Zoro? What kind of ending is that for a shichibukai, especially after Moria just went out like a monster? You're asking for Kuma to be fodder to Zoro...that's not cool.
Were you not the guy preaching "I would like for the other SH to beat a Shichibukai?" a few chapter threads ago? I think you were, Kuma has not done anything to get a pass. If he beats Zoro fine Oda has other plans for Kuma, but you are cuting Zoro short.
Mihawk may be a long way away, and they'll be a lot of strong guys for Zoro to fight. There's no reason that Zoro can or can't fight Mihawk if he loses this fight–especially after losing to Arlong, Enel, and Odz already. He's already beaten a legendary zombie samurai–I think that'd be enough.
It won't make any diffrents if Zoro beats Kuma, because he could still fight Mihawk.
People have to stop acting like it's "now or never" for characters to prove themselves. These guys have boatloads of time to accomplish their dreams.
I never said it now or never, I just said it would put Zoro one step closer to Zoro's dream.(IMO) There are many steps for Zoro to accomplish his dream.
And it's called College!
Ah, I got flashbacks of roomies getting so wasted that they forget where they put their cups 1 second ago…that's a bit of an inside joke.
Anyway, back at Jimbei, I'm just saying that having Kuma lose now is something that ruins Kuma as a threat and as a character. It's not about Zoro, he's not being sold short, he has dignity to spare. There's no shame in losing to a strong opponent after fighting two battles. Kuma now, to lose in his first encounter with a decent opponent, sucks for him.
I think it's about time Zoro got to fight somebody really tough. Kuma's bounty is below Luffy's so I think it's meant for somebody like Zoro to take him down. Plus, I can imagine at the end of the arc, if Zoro takes down Kuma, we'll see Mihawk again where ever he is. He'll make some comment about how Zoro is coming closer to being worthy of a rematch of something. But I can definetly see Zoro taking down Kuma.
Anyway, back at Jimbei, I'm just saying that having Kuma lose now is something that ruins Kuma as a threat and as a character. It's not about Zoro, he's not being sold short, he has dignity to spare. There's no shame in losing to a strong opponent after fighting two battles. Kuma now, to lose in his first encounter with a decent opponent, sucks for him.
I Understand, but the way I see it, Kuma has yet to do anything to get a pass. If it was Doflamingo in kuma's shoes yea, he would get a pass, because he been talking about this New Age of strength, gotten his bit of Development etc etc, it would be bad for Doflamingo to lose & we never find out what the hell he was trying to do, or his plan or anthing about his followers, etc etc. Kuma on the other hand has not done anything but follow the WG orders, KIll & inform us about Blackbeard.
We will see what happens next chapter.
We will see what happens next chapter.
Kuma crushes Zoro's legs with his man-sized bible.
He then dies a slow death, weeping for his shattered dream. Mihawk laughs in the distance.
Kuma crushes Zoro's legs with his man-sized bible.
He then dies a slow death, weeping for his shattered dream. Mihawk laughs in the distance.
I do see Zoro commenting on how he's atheist next chapter, though, what with Kuma and his Bible.
I've unleashed the extent of his wrath.
Sooo – Zoro, where DO you want to go now?
(I have an uneasy feeling we'll find out next chapter …)
Oh, and real quickly, before I transport myself out of here, too:
@Lobster:
Kuma vs. Zoro will be like Zoro vs. Arlong.
It will end in epic failure~
Reread chapter 88, Lobster – Zoro's goal was not to defeat Arlong then, but to distract him, so that Sanji could free Luffy. Zoro knew he'd only be able to stand against Arlong for a few seconds (he told that to Sanji from the start) but Sanji only needed a few seconds to free Luffy, who then defeated Arlong. So the plan was a success, not a failure.
Anyways, time to split now.
See everyone next year!
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People have to stop acting like it's "now or never" for characters to prove themselves. These guys have boatloads of time to accomplish their dreams.
Yeah, except that they are about to get killed if they don´t pull it off NOW.
The alternatives, when looking at them, are rather shitty (storytelling wise):
they get saved by deus ex ….. (after Dragon and Merry this is becoming quite old and if they permanently had to rely on external help what would this promise for the new world?)
they manage an escape .... but how? Please not another shitty and unbelievable buster call escape. And even if they escape, all the remaining guys at TB who just praised them as saviours would be ending up slaughtered by Kuma (typical arc end?)
Kumas order will be changed .... Why should this happen???
Concerning Zorros condition, it seems I have been reading a different manga up until now. Compared to other arcs he´s almost unscathed up to now and against Ryuma he hardly broke a sweat.
Also, in Zoro vs. Arlong, there's that nice moment where Arlong rips out Zoro's bandages and see the huge wound in Zoro's chest due to the battle with Mihawk. Arlong wonders how can any man be even standing with such wound, and concludes that Zoro is the kind of man that he can't let live. This is clearly a show of fear of Arlong: he knew that Zoro would be dangerous if he were in full strength. So, I don't think that fight was a "total failure".
I think it's about time Zoro got to fight somebody really tough.Kuma's bounty is below Luffy's so I think it's meant for somebody like Zoro to take him down.But I can definetly see Zoro taking down Kuma.
And I can see all the four Yonkou apearing in the next chapter with full names and bios.
saah.
But anyway-4 million berri,thats not exactly the national sweepstakes.
Concerning Zorros condition, it seems I have been reading a different manga up until now. Compared to other arcs he´s almost unscathed up to now and against Ryuma he hardly broke a sweat.
Glad to see your reading the same manga as me, now where can I get the manga that they are reading?
Okay, I really do think Zoro will get his ass handed to him if he fights Kuma, I mean, for christ's sake, he was wasted by odz in less than a second. Not to say Zoro isn't strong, I just think that Zoro would not last more than a second against Kuma in his current condition, so it can relate to the Zoro vs. Arlong just for the sole fact that he might delay something. I believe the only way the SH crew can come out of this with no one dieing is for Kuma to stop his little hunt for some odd reason.
Just remembered the fact that Zoro is aetheist, which may make for some interesting dialouge between he and Kuma.
@Kaimei-Karasuhebi:
Where is that from?! _
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Thank you!
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Damn! Of all the things, It had to actually be a stupid reindeer laughing! >_<
This sucks, but at least not like that time when I tought the "Got vore?" dinosaur avatar of some user wich name I don't remember at the moment was from an actual manga about killer dinosaurs....
Wow.
I think Thriller Bark has officially become my favorite arc, if GIGANT-O-MORIA didn't confirm that already.
awesome spread also.
Because of all this hype the next arc "hopefully fish-man" better be as good as everyone wants it to be. :P
I hope Fishman arc goes like this…
1.-Strawhats arrive to fishman island. Fishman island looks kickass.
2.-Oda sunndely switches to Buggy's crew.
3.-We get a whole arc about Buggy.
4.-Buggy Arc ends.
5.-We go back to the SH. They are leaving the island after taking a very necessary break.
6.-Fishman Island Arc concludes!
@Kaimei-Karasuhebi:
I hope Fishman arc goes like this…
1.-Strawhats arrive to fishman island. Fishman island looks kickass.
2.-Oda sunndely switches to Buggy's crew.
3.-We get a whole arc about Buggy.
4.-Buggy Arc ends.
5.-We go back to the SH. They are leaving the island after taking a very necessary break.
6.-Fishman Island Arc concludes!
im glad you don't write OP
@MonkeyDMalcolm:
im glad you don't write OP
Oh, yeah, let's make the SH to take Down Kuma now and then Jimbei at Fishman island. <_<
But seriously, I hope Fishman Island turns out to be a Mix of Skypeia and Jaya. Another TB would be pointles, so perhaps the SH could find out more about the Four Emperors, wich seems like basic pirate knowledge.
@MonkeyDMalcolm:
im glad you don't write OP
I'm scared that you can't detect sarcasm.:wassat:
And im scarred by the slightest of posibilites THAT could happen.
Strange, I was hoping Fishman Island was a "break" or "training" chapter. Ok, not like Kaimei said, but something different than "Strawhats find new enemy who wants their heads", but more like the beginning of Logue Town: they arrive in the Island and each one goes searching for some thing: food, the medical academy, the great swordsman mentioned by Hatchi, etc. Then each one gets into his/her own trouble, surpass it, then finally they regroup and set sail. Also, in the middle of these many "mini-arcs", we also get glimpses of Shanks, Whitebeard, the Shichibukai, Smoker and Buggy, like we had during the Jaya arc.
Strange, I was hoping Fishman Island was a "break" or "training" chapter. Ok, not like Kaimei said, but something different than "Strawhats find new enemy who wants their heads", but more like the beginning of Logue Town: they arrive in the Island and each one goes searching for some thing: food, the medical academy, the great swordsman mentioned by Hatchi, etc. Then each one gets into his/her own trouble, surpass it, then finally they regroup and set sail. Also, in the middle of these many "mini-arcs", we also get glimpses of Shanks, Whitebeard, the Shichibukai, Smoker and Buggy, like we had during the Jaya arc.
that would be great. sanji can hopefully fight the guy that teaches fishman martial arts and maybe even learn a move or two along the way.
Strange, I was hoping Fishman Island was a "break" or "training" chapter. Ok, not like Kaimei said, but something different than "Strawhats find new enemy who wants their heads", but more like the beginning of Logue Town: they arrive in the Island and each one goes searching for some thing: food, the medical academy, the great swordsman mentioned by Hatchi, etc. Then each one gets into his/her own trouble, surpass it, then finally they regroup and set sail. Also, in the middle of these many "mini-arcs", we also get glimpses of Shanks, Whitebeard, the Shichibukai, Smoker and Buggy, like we had during the Jaya arc.
That would actually be pretty awesome.
I'd really prefer something that isn't a huge scale two year long arc like Enies Lobby, so something like a Logue arc would be excellent.
Also, though this is speculation, aren't the Strawhats going to have to go through Mariejoa somehow? That in itself would probably be a fairly long arc, so it might make sense to keep Fishman down on the length.
@Mr.:
That would actually be pretty awesome.
I'd really prefer something that isn't a huge scale two year long arc like Enies Lobby, so something like a Logue arc would be excellent.
Also, though this is speculation, aren't the Strawhats going to have to go through Mariejoa somehow? That in itself would probably be a fairly long arc, so it might make sense to keep Fishman down on the length.
I get the feeling that Mariejoa won't be an issue to cross. If push comes to shove, they'll fight their way through, but the most likely solution is using the Cola mechanism in the ship (Coup de something, I can't remember) to fly over the Red Line.
Strange, I was hoping Fishman Island was a "break" or "training" chapter. Ok, not like Kaimei said, but something different than "Strawhats find new enemy who wants their heads", but more like the beginning of Logue Town: they arrive in the Island and each one goes searching for some thing: food, the medical academy, the great swordsman mentioned by Hatchi, etc. Then each one gets into his/her own trouble, surpass it, then finally they regroup and set sail. Also, in the middle of these many "mini-arcs", we also get glimpses of Shanks, Whitebeard, the Shichibukai, Smoker and Buggy, like we had during the Jaya arc.
sounds like the best idea people have had in a while.
Hopefully we'll get the news soon though. Just like the Strawhats are being cut off from information by being in the middle of nowhere, we're not hearing anything about the outside world and there is SO MUCH…
Fishman Island with Jaya-esque like… that's interesting!
But there is still Jimbei. How Oda is going to put a Shichibukai in a small arc, and mostly a character with important role.
Wha? Doesn't Kuro usually have better grammar then that? looks like he bablefished that last post.
If Oda makes Fishman Island like Jaya he doesn't need to place Jinbei there.
^Thriller Bark, anyone^^?
Time to make another call.
WB makes a move and all the Warlords are called back.
Oh, this actually makes sense, WB makes a move, Warlords are called back including Jimbei/Kuma, so the SHP are saved and the fisherman arc will be without a Warlord for atleast a while.
Fishman Island with Jaya-like esque… that's interesting!
But there is Jimbei. How Oda is going to put a Shichibukai in a small arc, and mostly with an important role.
No one ever said that Jimbei would be on Fishman Island, we just assumed that because he is a Fishman. After all this Moria/Kuma thing, the last thing I would like to see next arc is one more Shichibukai!
You could have some glimpses of Jimbei in this Jaya-like arc (maybe discussing Moria's and maybe Kuma's defeat, like happened in Jaya), but I think Jimbei is somewhere in the New World, not in Fishman Island.