I don't know about that. There are multiple ways it could be handled to be honest. The simplest way is the likely possibility of a return to Amazon Lily after the war.
Lola cover story.
I don't know about that. There are multiple ways it could be handled to be honest. The simplest way is the likely possibility of a return to Amazon Lily after the war.
Lola cover story.
While the sarcasm in my post is thick, the post isn't necessarily without merit. There's a decent chance that the Florian Triangle monster will play a role before Fishman Island. Therefore, the dumb predictions thread isn't the right place for it.
Urouge, you have lit my beacon of hope. Yes totally! An arc for the Triangle monsters! Since I saw them for the first time Ive been dying for an awnser for what history/what they are.
In the tradition of "Usopp-as-Haruhi", I have a suspicion that it will be a Paille of Truly Mammoth Proportion; barring that, it will be a literal triangle monster, composed of several varieties of triangle, and yes, Mr. Triangle Man from the SBS will be a part of it.
@_Meh_:
In the tradition of "Usopp-as-Haruhi", I have a suspicion that it will be a Paille of Truly Mammoth Proportion; barring that, it will be a literal triangle monster, composed of several varieties of triangle, and yes, Mr. Triangle Man from the SBS will be a part of it.
Wow…
I'd buy that... That guy gets no love in the SBS... Oda might be telling that guy to stop spoiling the manga, cause he found out about that whole thing...
I'm new to this board and don't know if this was discussed before but…. the consequences of a dead Whitebeard to Fishman Island wouldn't be disastrous?
Jimbei declared that WB protected the place with his name and it is been prosperous since then.
WB death means a lot, and amazes me how Oda is planning the history :)
sure in that way FI will be more evil, when the SH will visit it…jinbei will maybe be with them but than it`s a place without law and order...
@Don:
sure in that way FI will be more evil, when the SH will visit it…jinbei will maybe be with them but than it`s a place without law and order...
which would make a crazy story arc where we meet the different political powers that "rule" FI
sides could be
the current queen (or princess i forget which it is)
the human haters fish supremacist
the fish loving fishmen (like our ex-shibiukai friend)
Revolutionaries trying to keep it WG free
WG and Marines
SH lol
luffy is gonna end up eating all the fishman and he probably won't even notice he did something messed up.
Luffy: Sanji!?!?! I have caught more fish for you to cook
Sanji: Ah excellent…I can make a grand banquet to celebrate our impending entrance to the new world....isn't that right NAMI SWAN!?!?!? ROBIN CHWAN!?!?
fishman island will more then likely be tied in with majoriea since they are tied together by the slave trade
Agreed.
While FI is highly likely to happen, Oda could swerve us again.
In the next 2 or 3 chapters, Luffy could get captured - which is possible given his current state - and gets taken to Mariejoa.
This would also explain any timeskip too imo. Plus it will give the chance for the crew to show off thier new power ups in a rescue Luffy arc. XD
Fishman Island will be a lawless mess when the strawhats get to it. With Pirates and slave chasers everywhere persecuting the poor fishmen and women, who are supposed to be 10 times as strong as men and who should hence be able to put up more than a fight but that's another story.
This is something ive been thinking about for awhile. Did Oda create the war arc and separation of the Strawhats to prepare for Fishman island? I mean it seems that thinking of the world of the fish men would be a daunting task so he would need more time to make it look good and believable. Its just a thought I had.
hmm good thought actually i dont think so that the whole war arc only had the purpose to hype and support the Fishman Island, i think it was more the stone for the future story…at the end of the war there was a new age of pirates...imo therefore was the war arc/MarineFordSaga etc., to bring us to the new era Doflamingo talked about too...
I get the feeling FMI is something he's had in his head since the beginning–or at least as far back as the AP Arc (although I could be wrong, ya never know). There've been mentions of it from that far back anyway.
I think the war and etc has been in preparation for the second half of the story. Everything starts over--more or less--right from the crew reuiniting/(symbolically "getting together") all the way through to the end. A rebirth of sorts, if that doesn't sound OTT.
@I:
I get the feeling FMI is something he's had in his head since the beginning–or at least as far back as the AP Arc (although I could be wrong, ya never know). There've been mentions of it from that far back anyway.
He did say he wanted to introduced the Fishmen as early as chapter 3 but the idea has been pushed aside by the editors and he finally get around it during Arlong arc (ch.69).
I mean it seems that thinking of the world of the fish men would be a daunting task so he would need more time to make it look good and believable.
It's obviously a hard task that needs a lot of preparation when you think about how he can make a devil fruit user survived being underwater and how the characters interacts with the Fish people and mer-folk swimming around them when they are underwater (solved with Shabaody bubble coated thingy). I wonder how it will look like when the action kicks in, imagine how Luffy have to used his Gomu Gomu no power underwater, how Zoro uses his sword underwater, how Usopp uses his sling shot underwater. I'm really intrigued to see how Oda work on all this stuff.
@I:
I think the war and etc has been in preparation for the second half of the story. Everything starts over–more or less--right from the crew reuiniting/(symbolically "getting together") all the way through to the end. A rebirth of sorts, if that doesn't sound OTT.
that brings me to another point.
this, as you said correctly, symbols a new start and the final try to conquer the seas.
iam curious if those crewmembers who are now with luffy in that new attempt also the final members.
i mean sure there are still 1-2 spots open for luffys suggestion at the beginning. but still i think the point is close, where there shouldn
t be added new members
a) to much work to cover anyone with a good backround\chara development etc
b) those who are at the reunion could be considered the core of the crew (besides when we thing that the east blue guys\girl are the real core)^^
so i guess it`s the last chance for a new member to join at the FI-arc..
conquering the NW should be with final crew^^
@Don:
that brings me to another point.
this, as you said correctly, symbols a new start and the final try to conquer the seas.
iam curious if those crewmembers who are now with luffy in that new attempt also the final members.
i mean sure there are still 1-2 spots open for luffys suggestion at the beginning. but still i think the point is close, where there shouldn
t be added new members
a) to much work to cover anyone with a good backround\chara development etc
b) those who are at the reunion could be considered the core of the crew (besides when we thing that the east blue guys\girl are the real core)^^so i guess it`s the last chance for a new member to join at the FI-arc..
conquering the NW should be with final crew^^
Yep. Seems like this is a reasonable assumption to me. ('Course I reserve the right to withdraw my agreement if Oda sees fit to prove us wrong, LOL –jk)
actually i was sure that we get a mermaid and another crewmember from the NW…(so we would have from everywhere someone(beside Skypia^^ and maybe Calm Belt)
but non the less recently i thought baout how it "could" be to late to join.
i mean Brook even joined real late but he would be in the crew while they had their hardest time (being seperated).
joining now after that event the crew means that they would not just only miss half of the adventures.
they would also miss by the reunion, which will be a fucking importnat time for the whole SH-crew, which will bound them even closer than before.
@Don:
actually i was sure that we get a mermaid and another crewmember from the NW…(so we would have from everywhere someone(beside Skypia^^ and maybe Calm Belt)
but non the less recently i thought baout how it "could" be to late to join.
i mean Brook even joined real late but he would be in the crew while they had their hardest time (being seperated).
joining now after that event the crew means that they would not just only miss half of the adventures.
they would also miss by the reunion, which will be a fucking importnat time for the whole SH-crew, which will bound them even closer than before.
This is true for anyone "new" new. If, by chance, someone we already know were to join :ninja:, it'd be a different story. LOL. But yes, I too feel it seems too late for another person to join–it'd be hard for them to truly be a part of things if they missed these important events (And had no previous history with any of the SHs).
do i read here some hopes that bon-chan will join us? :happy:
but yeah, actually vivi and carue also are part of the crew and even without being there for the reunion they will still count as "full members"
like you said, missing such an event as a person we never saw before, nor has any connection so far with the Sh`s rly is kind of unsatisfiying to really count him\her to the crew after that.
It's hardly too late, part 2 of the story is just beginning, there is still room and time for one or two more.
Agreed.
While FI is highly likely to happen, Oda could swerve us again.
In the next 2 or 3 chapters, Luffy could get captured - which is possible given his current state - and gets taken to Mariejoa.
This would also explain any timeskip too imo. Plus it will give the chance for the crew to show off thier new power ups in a rescue Luffy arc. XD
Oooooooooooooo, a rescue Luffy arc that's a cool, unique and interesting idea. That'd be awesome if that scenario ever played out but I think we have to go to FI first, for Jinbei's sake. But who knows? if Sunny is destroyed and/or paw'd away, who knows? Oda might come up with some clever way to work that in as a cool "chance for the crew to show off their new power ups"
Camie will come with the crew to FI…when she won`t get kidnapped it would destroy her only unique(but annoying) personality:blink:
@Don:
do i read here some hopes that bon-chan will join us? :happy:
but yeah, actually vivi and carue also are part of the crew and even without being there for the reunion they will still count as "full members"like you said, missing such an event as a person we never saw before, nor has any connection so far with the Sh`s rly is kind of unsatisfiying to really count him\her to the crew after that.
Bo.. Bon-chan? Who me? :blink: Whatever gave you that idea? :whistling:
(I would so love that. But I think it's pretty darned unlikely, as his VA is that same as Frrranky, is it not? But he so earned a spot! Gol-darnit! He did! LOL )
Anyway–I think it's not outside the realm of possibility that they could meet someone new---even on their way back to be reunited--one of the SHs brings them along, the reunion involves some sort of epic danger from which new Potential Nakama (hereafter known as PN) helps extricate them, PN has nowhere else to call home, sad backstory etc etc and the rest becomes, as they say, proverbial history. You just never know with Oda-san, do ya? LOL
Originally Posted by Baks
Agreed.While FI is highly likely to happen, Oda could swerve us again.
In the next 2 or 3 chapters, Luffy could get captured - which is possible given his current state - and gets taken to Mariejoa.
This would also explain any timeskip too imo. Plus it will give the chance for the crew to show off thier new power ups in a rescue Luffy arc. XD
Oooh I would so Hate/Love that sort of arc it'd be so… can't even find a word.
Thing is, I think Luffy has to remain always the strong one on the crew storywise (note that in every case of complete defeat, Luffy has been alone during or shortly after the defeat). In fact none of the monster three has ever needed to be rescued (unless you count Zoro lying at Kizaro's feet when Kuma boffed him off... But everyone got boffed (i.e. rescued) at that same time, so not sure it would technically count) It's just not done, man.
Bon's just an Okama Sanji (who can't cook). And we've seen enough of that already :P (Hopefully all we'll ever see for the whole manga. Don't mind the fighting style, though)
Bon's just an Okama Sanji (who can't cook). And we've seen enough of that already :P (Hopefully all we'll ever see for the whole manga. Don't mind the fighting style, though)
LOL–To each his own. I think the power to become anyone (at least visually) that he's met is a very useful power.
FI will be good by virtue of Jinbei being in the spotlight.
He's a good character.
FI will be good by virtue of Jinbei being in the spotlight.
He's a good character.
spurts soda out of nose
I fail to see the humor in that statement seeing as how Jinbei is a good character.
I fail to see the humor in that statement seeing as how Jinbei is a good character.
I fail to see the humor in that statement because Jinbei couldn't protect anything, Nothing he did after making it to marine ford proved to help or delay the war at all. Aside from being a fishman and using Haki Karate I see nothing that resembles a good character.
he saved luffys life…so stfu with he couldnt protect anything sh it.
Sea Creature (Fishman/Fishwoman/Mermaid/Merman) for next crew mate, I hope.
Seriously, because with 4 DF users on the crew and all the past talk about slavery and discrimination against fishmen and mermen (including from Nami) it's just been hyped up. It'd really suck and be a bad move if we've had Saobody arc being all about discrimination and slavery, Hancock being a former slave, and on top of it have Impel Down reinforcing the whole fishman issue with Jinbei. That's three entire arcs in a row that brought up the Fishman/Slavery issue up in some way or form (Amazon Lilly counts as Hancock explains how she was saved by Fisher Tiger, etc). Hell, you could even say four arcs with Water 7 - it was the first time we saw a fishman being a hero and not a villain (Tom), shown that there was discrimination against them and when fishmen island was first mentioned and hyped. It'd really suck if after all this Oda continued to make the vast, vast majority of fishmen villains, at least without one in the crew to balance it out.
I'm not saying this just as a fishmen fan, but as a reader of One Piece.
Seriously, because with 4 DF users on the crew and all the past talk about slavery and discrimination against fishmen and mermen (including from Nami) it's just been hyped up. It'd really suck and be a bad move if we've had Saobody arc being all about discrimination and slavery, Hancock being a former slave, and on top of it have Impel Down reinforcing the whole fishman issue with Jinbei. That's three entire arcs in a row that brought up the Fishman/Slavery issue up in some way or form (Amazon Lilly counts as Hancock explains how she was saved by Fisher Tiger, etc). Hell, you could even say four arcs with Water 7 - it was the first time we saw a fishman being a hero and not a villain (Tom), shown that there was discrimination against them and when fishmen island was first mentioned and hyped. It'd really suck if after all this Oda continued to make the vast, vast majority of fishmen villains, at least without one in the crew to balance it out.
I'm not saying this just as a fishmen fan, but as a reader of One Piece.
Yes that what most people think/want but the fishmen conflict is kinda resolved regarding the crew and Nami in special she wont have problems with Jimbei, she doesnt have problems with Hactchan anymore either, the story will touch on that again when they reach FI with Jimbei giving his "formal" apology and Nami remembering stuff,etc then they will leave if that happens at the end and possibly bring Jimbei along or at the start and help Jimbei with wtv conflict is happening at FI right now and meet new characters, wich will start popping here each chapter, fun times incoming kakakaka :P.
The peace between races seems to be the will of every non-racist(Arlong)/non-evil fishman so theres bound to be a lot of them with that dream but one who is actually wanting to be part of the Pirate King crew and show it to the world might be Jimbei from the ones we know or wtv new character appears that also wants that to happen.
Edit: Dude/Dudete below stop the Perona crap the thread will get derailed again…lets stop the tease now and let the Perona supporters talk whenever they fell they were wrong, for now lets discuss other stuff, people are trying to change the subject...
Yes that what most people think/want but the fishmen conflict is kinda resolved regarding the crew and Nami in special she wont have problems with Jimbei, she doesnt have problems with Hactchan anymore either, the story will touch on that again when they reach FI with Jimbei giving his "formal" apology and Nami remembering stuff,etc then they will leave if that happens at the end and possibly bring Jimbei along or at the start and help Jimbei with wtv conflict is happening at FI right now and meet new characters, wich will start popping here each chapter, fun times incoming kakakaka :P.
Actually, without Whitebeard's protection over fishman island anymore, if anything the issue should have gotten a lot worse. Also remember that Whitebeard had fishmen in his crew and Luffy currently does not. If Luffy were to do the same and say anybody messing with FI would be messing with him and his crew (which is kinda implied will happen in some form or another), it'd just be difficult to take seriously without winning over the loyalty of one fishman as a subordinate and to continue only fighting them as villains.
I mean, I am not an easy person to hype up. I am always criticizing my boyfriend for getting hyped up easily, and I started early as a child having a laidback view on Christmas. It's not easy to put an idea in my head that X will happen and hype me up for it, and even I'm very hyped for a fishman. He or she doesn't necessarily have to join at FI, so long as it happens eventually.
Jinbei apologized to Luffy, but not to Nami who should have been the recipient of that apology. Wait… did Jinbei even apologize to Luffy? I thought he was just feeling guilty about it but didn't actually say anything about it.
Actually, without Whitebeard's protection over fishman island anymore, if anything the issue should have gotten a lot worse. Also remember that Whitebeard had fishmen in his crew and Luffy currently does not. If Luffy were to do the same and say anybody messing with FI would be messing with him and his crew (which is kinda implied will happen in some form or another), it'd just be difficult to take seriously without winning over the loyalty of one fishman as a subordinate and to continue only fighting them as villains.
I mean, I am not an easy person to hype up. I am always criticizing my boyfriend for getting hyped up easily, and I started early as a child having a laidback view on Christmas. It's not easy to put an idea in my head that X will happen and hype me up for it, and even I'm very hyped for a fishman. He or she doesn't necessarily have to join at FI, so long as it happens eventually.
Jinbei apologized to Luffy, but not to Nami who should have been the recipient of that apology. Wait… did Jinbei even apologize to Luffy? I thought he was just feeling guilty about it but didn't actually say anything about it.
He didnt, I was agreeing with you just like before.
The FI being Luffy territory would be cool and I though of that but you cant just do that to an island with a crew of 9 man, WB had a huge fleet with many captains its a completelly different story but yeah I though of it but I doubt strong pirates would respect Luffy message and Luffy wouldnt be able to comeback to protect just like if WB sent some of his ship to protect it in his case.
He didnt, I was agreeing with you just like before.
Sorry, and not to be rude, but it's hard to decipher what you're saying with your run on sentences.
True, regarding Whitebeard. Luffy doesn't have an extra ship to send out in case anybody tries anything, but he does have Rayleigh and the flying fish riders. The FFR are not that powerful but I think they could play a part in protecting FI.
I can't see that Luffy NOW is able to protect an island with his name… We are speaking about WB and his 16 divisions, which have protected the island.
Well, I'm not exactly sure what Luffy will do at FI, but he has to do something regarding FI being ransacked all the time and Whitebeard not being around to protect it.
Well, I'm not exactly sure what Luffy will do at FI, but he has to do something regarding FI being ransacked all the time and Whitebeard not being around to protect it.
Actually, these are all assumptions, no? We have no evidence of the state of FI. For all we know Shanks has people protecting it, or Big Mom, or whoever else. Hell, perhaps Jimbei got together a group of strong fishman to protect the island. I personally think Luffy is not the kind of pirate to accumulate power in numbers and gain stable influence like the yonkou so he can defend islands and such, he just gathers the necessary numbers for an adventure that has a clear end (raftel) and happens to help people along the way.
Actually, it'd be the greatest tease of all if Fishman Island just turns out to be a minor stop like Whiskey Peak. Imagine waiting for this island since Post-Enies Lobby only to have minimal chapters devoted to it. Ha!
Actually, these are all assumptions, no? We have no evidence of the state of FI. For all we know Shanks has people protecting it, or Big Mom, or whoever else. Hell, perhaps Jimbei got together a group of strong fishman to protect the island. I personally think Luffy is not the kind of pirate to accumulate power in numbers and gain stable influence like the yonkou so he can defend islands and such, he just gathers the necessary numbers for an adventure that has a clear end (raftel) and happens to help people along the way.
Actually, it'd be the greatest tease of all if Fishman Island just turns out to be a minor stop like Whiskey Peak. Imagine waiting for this island since Post-Enies Lobby only to have minimal chapters devoted to it. Ha!
yeah it could be like that..but the SHcrew is a trouble-magnet crew..so who knows..but for me, it will just be a mini arc..not so much trouble, just finding a new nakama<mermaid princess!="" :d=""></mermaid>
Actually I am more inclined to think that 2 factions are vying for control - because it is the pathway to the New World for Pirates.
Jinbei is likely to be involved with 1 faction and another that the SH's will join up to fight against with Jinbei's
But I actually agree the more you look at the past the more Fishman are mentioned all through One Piece and several times other crews have had them. I can believe it would happen - they need another melee fighter.
I'd thought I could bump this thread. Any thoughts on how the "bubble culture" of Fishman Island could work? I could see Luffy and Chopper playing in individual bubbles for a bit. It most likely would be an enbubbled city or something.
people are predicting a enbubbled city which would work but I think an under water cavern is still up to debate.
Yes I think the next Nakama will be a Fishman!
Regardless of who is going to join, I can't wait to see the status of the island. Jinbei returned there 2 years ago… will he have somewhat restored the damage that occurred during his absense? I don't expect it all to be restored within 2 years.
Also, I await the Fishman Karate/Swordsmanship Dojos. There is bound to be lots of ass-kicking there.
Yeah I want to see more of his culture and background maybe he has a family.
Just want to see it! (a fishman nakama) would be nice.
I hope FI isn't all ruined when the crew gets there, I want to see another new amazing island.
http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/4784/44450892.jpg
Have you every watch the cartoon movie Atlantis, I think Oda might be using the same concept. I think the Fishman island will be like this lol, pardon my drawing skills. :))
You draw better than I do
But wasn't this confirmed a while ago?
O rly? I didn't back read. :)) nevermind then :)) It just popped into my mind a few minutes ago.. haha
I don't think Jimbei was gone so long FI would've been trashed. Even when he wasn't there WB was protecting the island. After the battle, it was only like a week or two, max, before he headed back. How long it took him to get there is unknown, but it shouldn't have been long enough for the island to fall into chaos.
I don't think Jimbei was gone so long FI would've been trashed. Even when he wasn't there WB was protecting the island. After the battle, it was only like a week or two, max, before he headed back. How long it took him to get there is unknown, but it shouldn't have been long enough for the island to fall into chaos.
I'm pretty sure it was safe before the time skip, but you never know what could have happened after two years. But since Jimbei is there, I guess the island should be fine.