Strawhat levels

[igetownd]

If One Piece were an RPG (such as DnD), and their bounties (with the exception of Chopper) mean the treasure gained if a group of adventurers (or bounty hunters) went after them, then their levels should be like this*:

Luffy: Level 30
Zoro: Level 27
Sanji: Level 25
Robin: Level 25
Franky: Level 23
Ussop: Level 22
Nami: Level 20

The level to GP** equality:
Level 30: 1,760,000 GP
Level 27: 760,000 GP
Level 25: 440,000 GP
Level 23: 240,000 GP
Level 22: 160,000 GP
Level 20: 80,000 GP

I think this is fitting because the Strawhats are now world famous (in One Piece) and their fights are generally considered "epic".

*provided that 1 GP = 200 beli
**Dungeons & Dragons treasure value per encounter

PS. I wish One Piece were more world famous :sad:
PPS. …I'm such a nerd...

[eerie]

Levels? like what, fighting ability? infamy? "strength"? potential? boobies?

[Rave]

@eerie:

Levels? like what, fighting ability? infamy? "strength"? potential? boobies?

especially this last….gear 3 giant boobies?xD

[Kaze no Barako]

@Rave:

especially this last….gear 3 giant boobies?xD

Gear 3rd: Gigant Boobies! If Luffy could master that technique, he could get Sanji to cook him meat anytime!

No, seriously though, I'm not sure exactly how this pertains to the manga subforum, and uh… most people probably won't get it because most people don't play D&D.

Including me. I have noooo idea what you are talking about.

[Deicide]

Levels in D&D say your level of "power". Not just physical power, but your expertise and talent with your chosen career (class). So, both a Fighter 20 and a Wizard 20 are 20-level characters. However, the Fighter can whoop asses with brute strength and has a massive number of Hit Points ("Health" ou "damage tolerance"). The wizard will be a lot more fragile, but can work some serious magic, like huge fireballs that cause massive damage in an area or "buff" spells to protect himself.

In D&D, a character is "epic" when he reaches level 21+.

I don't think the Strawhats are that epic yet, however. Epic stuff (in D&D terms) will be in the New World, I think. I would list their levels as:

Luffy: Fighter 22
Zoro: Warblade 20
Sanji: Monk 10/Fighter 10 (total 20)
Franky: Fighter 9/Rogue 9 (total 18)
Robin: Rogue 18
Chopper: Druid 16
Usopp: Scout 16
Nami: Rogue 10/Wizard 6 (total 16)

Of course, the classes don't fit. I put them there more because of the roles of each Strawhat than because of the class abilities.

EDIT:

For a level breakdown in D&D, it comes more or less as:

1-5: Grim'n'Gritty. Adventurers die easily.
6-10: Heroic fantasy. Like Lord of the Rings or (in my opinion) the beginning of OP. The characterscan take out lots of enemies and big monsters on their own.
11-15: Wuxia. The adventurers can take small armies (like in Enies Lobby), can take some serious damage, and can do supernatural things.
16-20: Super-heroes. You can take down armies and invade whole towns by yourself. Very few can stand in your way, and your abilities are bordering epic.
21-30: Lower Epic. You can save and/or destroy whole worlds.
31-40: Higher Epic. You can go to the nine hells and conquer them.
41+: Divine stuff. Gods everywhere, beware.

Most adventures in D&D use only the 20 first levels, obviously. A lot never ever reaches the 20th level.

[Archtyrant]

COOL oh man i wanna try D&D!!!

[Smartz118]

That is a cool/geeky way to see it, Deicide! But, the funny answer should be they are all OVER 9000!!!!11!

[Kitsune9-TailedBeast]

This makes me want to do a One Piece D&D game…...

[Impel Down]

The whole crew is Level 70.

And when you reach Level 70, the game just begins.

[Gorlom]

ID: World of warcraft? or some other MMORPG?

[AWB]

@igetownd:

Luffy: Level 30
Zoro: Level 27
Sanji: Level 25
Robin: Level 25
Franky: Level 23
Ussop: Level 22
Nami: Level 20

There should be a bigger gap between Robin and Franky, as well as between Franky and Usopp.

[Impel Down]

@Gorlom:

ID: World of warcraft? or some other MMORPG?

The new WOW, I think.

I overheard two guys talking about it once and they said that and I almost burst out laughing.

[Gorlom]

preexpansion that was kinda true (although the level cap was 60)

don't know about now though.

[Impel Down]

Hilarious, none the less.

[Kakaliaha]

Probably EQ, good god I remember when the lvl cap was 50, glad I broke the habit and quit it before it was too late.

[Sanctum]

Heard next WoW expansion would bring in Northrend and raise the level cap to 80.

[igetownd]

First of all, I gotta shamefully apologize for letting Deicide wipe my ass. I should have considered that many people do not know DnD, and that my opening post did not have anything to do with the manga (other than bounties).

I believe the bounties will stay well into the New World, so their bounties won't change, but they'll increase in levels until their levels suit their bounties. After that, their bounties will shoot up ridiculously again.

If the strawhats were in WoW, they've been level 70 since beating Crocodile, and everything after is just expansion pack after expansion pack. In the New World, they'll be in a whole new game.

[Gorlom]

obviously the first half of the grand line is regular wow. they just reached lvl 57-60 as they started raiding Thriller bark. (the team attacks on Oggy, equals to UBLS-Onyxias lair raid dungeons in wow imo.)

the new world is the expansion pack.

[igetownd]

Higuma the Mountain bandit was worth 8 mil despite only killing 56 people…

I take it back. The Strawhats are significantly lower leveled than what I initially stated.

[Impel Down]

GMs/mods are Yonkou, I assume? Or are they Shichibukai and the ballin' players are the Yonkou?

[Gorlom]

nah the GMs are the gurosei. they decide the rules but you never see them.

[igetownd]

The GM's are the editors and assistants of Master Oda. Oda is the admin.

[skarlath]

Zoro's got a few masterwork swords…

[Moria]

Uhhh… i expected more out of this thread.

[smith]

Funny as hell, but I now I want to try DnD :S

[igetownd]

Ok, now that it's established that this is a One Piece to DnD thread. (Yes, it's very stupid and funny)

What is the DC (difficulty class) to smash an island in half, like Moria does? btw, read the most recent chapter in the manga, if that's spoiler to you.

My guess is that it's somewhere above 200.

Too bad in WoW you don't get to smash stuff like walls. =P

[Deicide]

heh, which are the characters ability scores?

For non-D&D users, there are six abilities in D&D:

- Strength (Str): Used in close combat and in damage. Also determines how much you can carry, and help skills like climb, swim and jump.

- Dexterity (Dex): Used to dodge attacks, to make ranged attacks and, with certain feats, can substitute Str in order to make close combat attacks (but not damage). Help skills like ride, tumble, move silently, hide and balance.

- Constituition (Con): Determines your Hit Point ("Health" or "Damage Tolerance") total. Helps in Concentration checks.

- Intelligente (Int): Represents intellect. Used by certain arcane spellcasters. Determines how many skill points you have. Helps in several special abilities and in skills like Appraise, Knowledge, Crafts and Search

- Wisdom (Wis): Represents common wisdom, perception and instinct. Used by certain divine spellcasters. Helps in skills like Listen, Spot, Profession, Sense Motive and Survival.

- Charisma (Cha): The strength of your personality and ability to influence others. Used by certain spellcaster that have innate abilities. Helps in skills like Bluff, Diplomacy, Gather Information and Intimidation.

A common human has a score between 3 and 18 in each ability. 10 is the average, and most of the population has a level range between 8-12 in each. 3 means a really weak or retarded person. 18 means top-notch health or mental ability. However, adventurers can rise even above 18.

My take:

- Luffy: Str 32, Dex 24, Con 28, Int 10, Wis 8, Cha 16
- Zoro: Str 28, Dex 18, Con 28, Int 16, Wis 8, Cha 10
- Sanji: Str 28, Dex 28, Con 24, Int 12, Wis 14, Cha 14
- Franky: Str 24, Dex 16, Con 30, Int 18, Wis 12, Cha 14
- Robin: Str 12, Dex 18, Con 14, Int 22, Wis 18, Cha 10
- Usopp: Str 13, Dex 30, Con 22, Int 18, Wis 12, Cha 14
- Nami: Str 10, Dex 24, Con 14, Int 25, Wis 16, Cha 14
- Chopper:
(Brain Point) Str 8, Dex 16, Con 16, Int 24, Wis 12, Cha 16
(Heavy Point) Str 18, Dex 14, Con 18, Int 18, Wis 12, Cha 16
(Leg Point) Str 18, Dex 14, Con 18, Int 18, Wis 12, Cha 16
(Arm Point) Str 24, Dex 14, Con 18, Int 18, Wis 12, Cha 16
(Jump Point) Str 20, Dex 20, Con 16, Int 18, Wis 12, Cha 16
(Horn Point) Str 18, Dex 14, Con 18, Int 18, Wis 12, Cha 16
(Guard Point) Str 10, Dex 10, Con 32, Int 18, Wis 12, Cha 16
(Monster Point) Str 40, Dex 16, Con 28, Int 1, Wis 12, Cha 3

[skarlath]

@Deicide:

(Monster Point) Str 40, Dex 16, Con 28, Int 1, Wis 12, Cha 3

I dunno

28 Constitution? This point hurts him. It should be really low.

Maybe if he had a poison affect or something…

@Deicide:

- Nami: Str 10, Dex 24, Con 14, Int 25, Wis 16, Cha 14

and i thought we were making Nami be a wizard, so shouldn't she have higher Wisdom?

plus you listed Luffy as a fighter. He would be MUCH better as a Monk.

sorry for being an ass after you went through all that work…

[igetownd]

Wizards benifit from their intelligence scores much more so than their wisdom scores.
If Nami were treated as a wizard-like class, then she should have high intelligence.

Chopper in Monster Point will have a large amount of constitution in that he absorbs damage easily; however, his fatigue is caused by overexerting his natural body's capabilities. It would be like a Barbarian class character using the rage ability, experiencing fatigue afterwards. Chopper evidently can revert back to normal after becoming a monster, because he has done so in the past in Drum island.

Ability scores: At Enies Lobby

Luffy: Str 84 Dex 55 Con 72 Int 9 Wis 6 Cha 13
Zoro: Str 78 Dex 44 Con 68 Int 12 Wis 16 Cha 9
Sanji: Str 72 Dex 65 Con 60 Int 18 Wis 14 Cha 17
Robin: Str 11 Dex 24 Con 13 Int 38 Wis 32 Cha 20
Ussop: Str 13 Dex 42 Con 38 Int 16 Wis 9 Cha 10
Nami: Str 10 Dex 34 Con 10 Int 32 Wis 15 Cha 18
Franky: Str 64 Dex 16 Con 70 Int 24 Wis 11 Cha 15
Chopper:
(Normal) Str 6 Dex 10 Con 10 Int 24 Wis 6 Cha 24

I'll finish later. And I know that the stats are ridiculously skewed, but this is One Piece. Besides, Oda keeps on changing how strong, agile, smart, etc. each character is to fit the manga as needed for plot, humour, drama, etc.

[Deicide]

Igetownd, you don't need abilities at such high levels in order to do OP-like feats. Believe me, I am GM'ing a campaign where the characters can do a lot of OP-like stuff without epic levels, magic itens and divine-level abilities. The thing is: the class abilities and feats matter more than just ability scores.

[igetownd]

@Deicide:

Igetownd, you don't need abilities at such high levels in order to do OP-like feats. Believe me, I am GM'ing a campaign where the characters can do a lot of OP-like stuff without epic levels, magic itens and divine-level abilities. The thing is: the class abilities and feats matter more than just ability scores.

Please enlighten me on the special class abilities. I only have the standard rule book (yes, I'm a newbie). I can't find abilities that allow feats like Zoro's 108 Poundo Hou, or Gomu Gomu no Storm.

[Kaze]

16 dbz characters

[Jedi Master]

I tought at first that this place is going to be like DBZ power lvl stuff. If Frieze didn't know how to fly or use his most powerful attack, I bet Luffy would easily be at the same lvl as him (at his current power in the manga)

[Deicide]

@igetownd:

Please enlighten me on the special class abilities. I only have the standard rule book (yes, I'm a newbie). I can't find abilities that allow feats like Zoro's 108 Poundo Hou, or Gomu Gomu no Storm.

Oh, you won' really find it in books. Ok, maybe some abilities you will find scattered across different classes. We made a few custom classes and feats for our game.

What I mean by class abilities are things like: having a class ability that allows you to ignore Damage Reduction or durability represents OP better than giving the character a huge strength.

Class abilities and feats are good to make your character do certain things without the need of having ability scores that are too big…

[smith]

The more I read the more wtf I'm going.

[skarlath]

@Deicide:

Oh, you won' really find it in books. Ok, maybe some abilities you will find scattered across different classes. We made a few custom classes and feats for our game.

What I mean by class abilities are things like: having a class ability that allows you to ignore Damage Reduction or durability represents OP better than giving the character a huge strength.

Class abilities and feats are good to make your character do certain things without the need of having ability scores that are too big…

is there a way to give Luffy damage reduction to hand-to-hand and blunt but not to bladed weapons?

Plus, will the levels that we gave them, be able to manage those stats? Seriously? I saw like a 64 strength, I don't think any level would be able to reach that?

[Deicide]

I don't wanna go too deep into this, or else we will end up creating our own "Players Guide to One Piece" with classes based on One Piece characters…

But, I would imagine that having a Devil Fruit is a template. The Gomu Gomu Template would probably give the character a Damage Reduction X/Piercing or Slashing. Probably a very high damage reduction at that, something like 20/Piercing or Slashing. It would also probably give the character an ability to use melee attacks and weapons at long ranges.

Luffy's class, whatever it may be called, would be a unarmed fighter. It would probably increase unarmed damage and give a Flurry of Blows ability much like a monk, but would also give a hell of a dodge modifier to AC and allow the character to ignore portions Damage Reduction with his strikes. Luffy's feats would probably focus on multiple attacks and high Hit Points.

(Sanji probably would have levels in the same class, by the way, but his feat progression would be different, and without the Devil Fruit template).

[Coolnerd89]

God damn… Now I wanna make an OP MMORPG.

[igetownd]

One aspect of OP that doesn't fit Dnd is the characters' capacity to lift enormous weight. It seems like instead of being able to lift at most 400 pounds with 20 strength, OP has characters lifting something like 4000 pounds. As a GM in a OP rpg, one should consider the fact that OP characters have ridiculous capabilities with strength, and modify some game rules, such as higher weight capacities and lower hit points for materials like stone and iron. Also, there are firearms, DFs, sea monsters, sailing, and more to consider.

Reconsidering, I'll modify what the stats should be

Luffy: Str 26 Dex 10 Con 22 Int 9 Wis 6 Cha 15
Even with modified rules, Luffy is immensely strong and tough. He's still stupid nonetheless. He has plenty of attacks as feats, and he also has high dodging capabilities as the result of feats or class abilities (whatever his class is it must be like a monkey). His DF provides damage reduction to blunt damage. He's good for the physical offensive but he's really weak to magic.

Zoro: Str 24 Dex 17 Con 20 Int 11 Wis 8 Cha 13
Zoro is really strong too. His 17 dexterity is the result of training with 3 swords as a child, and is needed to use three swords at once. Through leveling, he gains attack and parry feats, making him a solid tank. One special trait he has is the increased ability to sense motive and ki but a severe decrease in sense of direction.

Sanji: Str 22 Dex 22 Con 14 Int 14 Wis 10 Cha 13
Sanji can't give as much lift as the previous two, but he makes up for it with his high dexterity. He's able to make many critical hits with his attacks. He's quite witty and attractive, but he becomes infatuated instantly with a female with good charisma. Even though he's handsome, he talks trash all the time, is an asshole to guys generally, and smells like cigarettes and seafood.

Ussop: Str 11 Dex 25 Con 20 Int 13 Wis 9 Cha 11
Ussop isn't strong in physical combat, but he's good at ranged attacks and bluffing. His bluffs are the result of feats and skill ranks, not his charisma as much. His sniping is his main skill and has feats to increase it.

Nami: Str 9 Dex 20 Con 9 Int 22 Wis 16 Cha 19
Nami's not good in a situation like close combat, but she has some good mental stats, fitting for a mage. She has the special ability to sense weather.

Chopper (chibi): Str 8 Dex 8 Con 8 Int 18 Wis 6 Cha 18
Chibi Chopper's stats suck, but that's okay because he's cuddly. His special ability is scanning the opponent. He's small so he gets pluses in evasion and accuracy. He also believes whatever anyone tells him.

Chopper (yeti): Str 16 Dex 10 Con 16 Int 18 Wis 6 Cha 8
He loses his cuteness, but his stats are better. He loses his pluses from smallness though.

Chopper (reindeer): Str 12 Dex 12 Con 12 Int 18 Wis 6 Cha 9

Chopper (arm point): Str 22 Dex 10 Con 12 Int 18 Wis 6 Cha 7
He does extra damage if he hits.

Chopper (jumping pt.): Str 14 Dex 14 Con 12 Int 18 Wis 6 Cha 8
He's got +4 ranks in jumping.

Chopper (horn point): Str 20 Dex 12 Con 12 Int 18 Wis 6 Cha 7

Chopper (guard point): Str 8 Dex 8 Con 18 Int 18 Wis 6 Cha 7
+8 to natural armor

Robin: Str 10 Dex 14 Con 10 Int 25 Wis 18 Cha 18
She's a genius in obtaining information. She can read undeciphered archaic text as if it's he native language. That's a special ability I guess.

Franky: Str 20 Dex 13 Con 26 Int 14 Wis 9 Cha 8
He's a cyborg so he has +8 to armor, he's strong, and he's a good carpenter.

Brooke: Str 11 Dex 20 Con 12 Int 14 Wis 10 Cha 14
I like Brooke, but he's still a mystery actually.

[Kitsune9-TailedBeast]

I would give Luffy the highest Charisma due to his ability to make your cares melt away (Vivi), keep the morale of his entire crew at max, and generally make friends with anyone he meets almost instantaniously. (Unless they're a douchebag XP)

[dirt monkey AL]

… Holy fuck.

♫ Memories … ♪

[skarlath]

Sanji has to have terrible wis and charisma.
He keeps getting charmed…

[Raunadraug]

Mmm I rarely post but I gotta do it now since this thread touches two of my passions
I'd like to point out that Charisma is also the primary statistic for the Iaijutsu skill in Oriental Adventures. Obscure as it is, I think Zoro's Cha should be a bit higher. His 'force of personality' required to say, form Asura is easily super-human. Of course that only applies if you're in the boat that thinks Asura was formed by Zoro's sheer baddassity and not him just moving his arms really fast or some other bs
Charisma is also used for sensing opponent's battle skill (as an alternative to sense motive, which is wisdom based).

Just my two cents.

[Shishou]

Bigger gap on Luffy to Zoro.

[igetownd]

@Raunadraug:

Mmm I rarely post but I gotta do it now since this thread touches two of my passions
I'd like to point out that Charisma is also the primary statistic for the Iaijutsu skill in Oriental Adventures. Obscure as it is, I think Zoro's Cha should be a bit higher. His 'force of personality' required to say, form Asura is easily super-human. Of course that only applies if you're in the boat that thinks Asura was formed by Zoro's sheer baddassity and not him just moving his arms really fast or some other bs
Charisma is also used for sensing opponent's battle skill (as an alternative to sense motive, which is wisdom based).

Just my two cents.

You convinced me, I'll change it. Zoro now has 13 Cha.

[Mmod]

Hmm, the INT for Franky should be the higher… Nami and Robin are retard compared to him. Like, he does things really fast, at really high techonology using wood. He is a cyborg in the middle ages.

[Trekkor]

Robin is probably smarter than Nami aswell, but Nami has more Charisma than Robin. Will probably need a math formula to figure out his attack level.

(Motivation X Desperation) or something similar to that. You get the point:getlost:

[igetownd]

@skarlath:

Sanji has to have terrible wis and charisma.
He keeps getting charmed…

I actually think Sanji should have higher wisdom because he's an excellent chef, meaning high ranks in profession. But his lack of resistance to beauty puts him back to 10.

@Mmod:

Hmm, the INT for Franky should be the higher… Nami and Robin are retard compared to him. Like, he does things really fast, at really high techonology using wood. He is a cyborg in the middle ages.

Franky's class abilities also allow him to do such feats as he increases his experience. I would guess his class is like an artificer but much better.

Robin is probably smarter than Nami aswell, but Nami has more Charisma than Robin. Will probably need a math formula to figure out his attack level.

(Motivation X Desperation) or something similar to that. You get the point

Just slightly.

I would give Luffy the highest Charisma due to his ability to make your cares melt away (Vivi), keep the morale of his entire crew at max, and generally make friends with anyone he meets almost instantaniously. (Unless they're a douchebag XP)

Unfortunately, Luffy's got a pretty bad fashion sense and doesn't look, sound, or smell too good, so… (actually determining his Cha is pretty hard.)

[skarlath]

Yeah, Luffy's Charisma is high but his Intelligence is low.
He does make those around him stronger (CHA bonuses)
but since he does not have any skills his INT doesn't need to be beyond 10.