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    • rusashi
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      This arc has just been bad and bland. The villain is terrible, while I like poison powers, he just showed up out of nowhere, this arc will probably have little effect on the story, and the concept of the Dark Amimaya is just terrible.

      Toriko and Beelzebub have yet to disappoint, while this has been slowly going down hill since… the kids in the future showed up.

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        @rusashi:

        This arc has just been bad and bland. The villain is terrible, while I like poison powers, he just showed up out of nowhere, this arc will probably have little effect on the story, and the concept of the Dark Amimaya is just terrible.

        This is actually pretty spot-on, for my money. The amount of "oh yeah also there's this other dude? and he has powers like crazy too, you better put on a goofy suit and some shades and pose" that's going on in this series is getting a little out of control. Plot twists are one thing, but this shit is starting to be pretty consistent.

        I guess the main issue is that there isn't any feeling to it anymore. Every time I see a child with superpowers or someone blow up a city with a tree or some shit I just sort of roll my eyes.

        Part of this comes from the shift from mystery-centric shonen manga to… whatever it is today. The characters are all so different all of a sudden, with no sense of development in between, the plot wanders aimlessly (although the imperative "save the future" has been there all along, true) and the villains are all pretty much the same completely batshit crazy megalomaniacal superhumans.

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          hmm. I guess in a way Psyren has fallen a bit, and I really see how the overall feeling went from "survival" to "psychic fight". also I don't like the kids, in the future or in the present.

          However, overall Psyren is consistently above average, which is more than I can say for some series. I'm just really waiting for when the other main characters get back to being, well, main characters.

          It's Manga, Baby. (One Piece Revisited)

          Not All Pokemon are Created Equal. Lord of Djinn (now on Steam!)

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            @rusashi:

            This arc has just been bad and bland. The villain is terrible, while I like poison powers, he just showed up out of nowhere, this arc will probably have little effect on the story, and the concept of the Dark Amimaya is just terrible.

            Huh…? That's so vague. The "arc" has only been about nine chapters, and the "villain" was introduced and suspiciously curious about information eight chapters ago. It's no different than any new character being introduced in any other series. This guy didn't even confirm he was bad until five chapters ago, so all things considered the plot and arc has moved forward at a decently swift pace. I have no clue why you think the arc will have little affect on the story, as it concerns a fail safe for the primary villain. I'll agree that Amamiya's split personality isn't the most original "plot twist" in the book, but at least it was foreshadowed and then established long before this particular arc began. Oh, and it didn't steal the focus of this arc and has already been suppressed for later in the story, which in my opinion is better than a huge twist that derails the plot for months and months. Plus, it makes complete sense given her personality and character development since chapter 1. Completely true to her character, unlike other series that pull this stuff out of their ass.

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            I guess the main issue is that there isn't any feeling to it anymore. Every time I see a child with superpowers or someone blow up a city with a tree or some shit I just sort of roll my eyes.

            ??? The amount of characters in this series, especially ones with powers, is pretty small. I think the problem is that people forget what has been established because this isn't super popular and it doesn't get discussed a lot. Like Rika, the girls with a scar, who was introduced in chapter 44 and who's power lines up with what we see her doing at that time. Those who don't read and discuss it a lot forget mcuh of what has been hinted at or established, and then when someone "out of the blue" happens they call it a plot hole or something, when really they just don't know the series that well. I mean, if you don't like the story or characters, that's your own prerogative, but since you both point out things and claim they are bad…I just don't really understand.

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            I really see how the overall feeling went from "survival" to "psychic fight".

            Another complaint I honestly don't understand. The emphasis never really was about survival, but fighting to protect and change the future. The whole survival aspect was only around for the first Psyren call, for obvious reasons. The second call was after they had just learned the very basics of psi, with them fighting Tatsuo, and was our first "psychic fight". Everything since then has revolved around the WISE and the Star Commanders. Even still, almost all of the (individual) fights have been, at most, three or so chapters with decent art and powers being displayed each time. On top of that, there has been an ongoing plot that has remained consistent since pretty much the first chapter, with "twists" foreshadowed well ahead of time.

            Again, I'm not saying Psyren is extremely original or amazing or anything, but I think it has been consistent and interesting, and at the very least shows signs that the author plans well ahead of time, rather than writing himself into corners and whipping out some plot devices to carry him out.

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              ??? The amount of characters in this series, especially ones with powers, is pretty small. I think the problem is that people forget what has been established because this isn't super popular and it doesn't get discussed a lot. Like Rika, the girls with a scar, who was introduced in chapter 44 and who's power lines up with what we see her doing at that time. Those who don't read and discuss it a lot forget mcuh of what has been hinted at or established, and then when someone "out of the blue" happens they call it a plot hole or something, when really they just don't know the series that well. I mean, if you don't like the story or characters, that's your own prerogative, but since you both point out things and claim they are bad…I just don't really understand.

              I don't need to constantly discuss something to have an opinion about it, or to remember things that were hinted at even. I just was saying that I don't feel for the characters at all, because things seem to come out of the blue. It could be a cool plot twist that the main bad guy gave our insider informant super poison powers and he's been batshit crazy for years and hiding it under a veneer of rationality and kindness… maybe it could be cool, yeah. But to me, in this instance, it wasn't. Nor have most of the other major 'twists'. I don't think they're plot holes, per se. I just don't like the sudden jerking motion that the plot seems to take.

              It's entirely personal opinion and if I stated it in a way that made you think I was trying to be an arbiter of Good and Bad mangas in general, you have my apologies because that wasn't the case at all.

              The characters don't have any feeling or meaning to me, and that's all I really wanted to convey by my post. The guy before me, rusashi, touched on a few of the same notes and I mostly wanted to post to back him up on that.

              As for the girl with super powers, it seemed to me like the manga was trying too hard to convince me that that shit was OFF THE CHAIN, she drew that shit! when really it seemed pretty bland, and that disconnect between what the manga-ka things is 'cool' and what I think is cool is growing wider with every passing chapter.

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                you guys must also hate Gantz then too huh. I mean that went from a survival to then super powers and destroying everything. i mean really what did you expect, the series to be only about going to this telephone booth and surviving each time no larger story?

                thats how series go, they start out surival because thats all theycan do is hope to survive. Then once they get strong enough they start to fight back.

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                  i actually like this story a lot…started out kind of bland but i am getting into it with the introduction of dark amayia and how ageha has such diversity in the way he uses his powers...so i'm not a hater hahah

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                    Gantz is more than 50 times better than this. The characters here aint lovable at all.
                    This series is just copying Matrix, Gantz and Bleach into a more shonen style.

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                      I refuse to argue about my opinion but Psyren has gotten quite bad and I'm stickin' to it.

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                        I refuse to argue about my opinion but Psyren has gotten quite bad and I'm stickin' to it.

                        Yeah I have to agree here, I was really excited for Psyren but last 10 or over chapters have been going to pretty bad and unintresting direction.

                        The whole time travel theme is very dangerous route for artist to take and its very difficult to pull it off as a success. Psyren has been failing for this and anything that happens in future is pretty erelevant because past can be just changed making 'deus ex machinas' happening constantly.

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                          not sure what the big fuss is over these last 10 chapters or wahtever. The whole point of them is only for one objective. For us to get to KNOW the bad guys, more than just them showing up and fighting when it happens. This is us getting to know what their like personality, how they are formed, leadership of them, their powers, and so on.

                          I also want ot get back to the main cast and them doing their thing, but this should turn out for the better. Its liek blackbeard and his crew in one piece. We are slowly getting to learn blackbeard and who is all on his crew through the MANY chapters, who and when some join and so on. Which in the end will make that battle much better than the others, like say Arlong/Moria and others where we knew absolutely nothing abotu them until we were fighting them.

                          SO he is busy right now giving his villians character and personality instead of just throwing them in our face during their respective battle and trying to force their personality unto us in such a short time.

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                            Psyren's Vomic has started. It's a motion comic that Jump has started fairly recently. They air these on their TV show JumBang and put them online a month later. It comes in 4 parts that go over a week, usually the first chapter. And they seem to use the actors they use for animes when they're made later.

                            http://vomic.shueisha.co.jp/psyren/

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                              I posted here a while back my feelings of the series. Basically, i felt it was lackluster starting off… at first I thought "this is just a toned down version of Gantz". But once the plot started coming together and more psy-battles began to occur, the appeal of this series began to rise for me. Like Brennen has pointed out, I dig the foreshadowing within the narrative. And I really like the powers. Especially Ageha's (and the buildup to him learning it)... and now he's using his ability in more than just one way.

                              The latest chapter was quite good. i'm starting to get an X-men vibe for some reason... maybe it's from Ageha's suit

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                                double post, but new chapter is up on Onemanga

                                ok, very cool read. Nice to see Ageha diversifying his power further. I also liked the little comment the villain (forgot his name) said about Ageha while he died. It was quite humble words of praise for his opponent. It was cool.

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                                  I am approve of this chapter.

                                  I loved Ageha's ever evolving attack. it's pretty nifty. P:

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                                    Ageha and Hiryuu make this series. It's like the opposite of Bleach, I love the main characters, and the villains and side characters are kind of meh.

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                                      The good; Ageha is still willing to kill if he must. Splash was pretty cool, but I had been expecting it since he first made the barrier. I continue to enjoy the use of his discs, and with the addition of the barrier/splash combo he now has two defensive/offensive programs at his disposal. I expect him to continue modifying and upgrading his programs though. Ageha's rise is also still impressive. I suppose it is easy for the author to just excuse hand to hand combat and brutal attacks with rise, but he opened the door for that by establishing Ageha and Hiryuu's level of skill. Ageha was the more impressive of the two, being able to use it practically by making quick bursts when he needed it; be it physical augmentation or heightened senses. So him taking hits intentionally to get openings works for me. This time. Yusaka's last words, while a little corny in the translation, was pretty cool. Ageha's parallel with Miroku continues to grow; black burst user vs. a white burst user…

                                      The bad; I honestly wasn't impressed with this whole battle at all. There are quite a few gripes, but nothing that ruined it for me. Matsuri, for example, has practically been teasing us since chapter 8 with her powers, but not really showing anything outside straight up telekinesis. Her being an "Almighty Type", for example? Anyway, that aside, this particular chapter seemed a bit off as far as dialog and art go. I've noticed the author sometimes messes up with bodies, making them a little disproportionate. Especially with Ageha, but that might also just be the clothes. The comments from Ageha and Yusaka were a bit awkward. Not sure what it was, but it seemed a little corny. Amamiya being up already seemed a bit unnecessary, but whatever.

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                                        i also have the opinion that this battle wasn`t the best possible…such a virus-guy could have some more power than that...going around and punch people like a crazy idiot...but well it was at least decent.

                                        but i have the feeling as a star commander he would have more rocked than that..

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                                          He was a bit too psychotic to be a Star Commander, me thinks. I thought his power was interesting, but it didn't flesh out enough. I'm glad it didn't go on longer than it did, but I think there could have been more to it in the chapters he was around, especially in regards to his injections. Still, it was pretty cool to see another crazy small time villain, particularly the part about him bein in a blood soaked lab coat while beating people with a crowbar.

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                                            yeah, the crazy "going berserk" aspect was rly kinda cool…thats why i hoped we would see a little more of him..
                                            i hope we will see the other "star commanders" interact a little more unpsychotic..i rly like such charas but as a positioon as they fit it`s kind of awkward to see a crazy laughing dude ..

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                                              I just breezed through this series. And wow, it was fun. 🙂
                                              I also want to see Matsuri's full potential, but I guess the author's saving that for later.

                                              But I gotta say, I actually like some of the main characters. Ageha and Hiryuu, for example.

                                              Grana's cool, too. Miroku creeps me out, though.

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                                                Grana's character is so borderline, I imagine he will become friends with Ageha. I just don't see him being a long term bad guy. I'm actually really hoping our heroes get whisked back to the future soon, because I want more Oboro >_<

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                                                  I wish Grana had beat the crap out of Miroku, though. Darn.
                                                  Oboro's circumstances have both scared me and interested me. But if he turns out to be one of the Tavoo, I wouldn't be surprised. His character is pretty predictable imo.

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                                                    Grana's character is so borderline, I imagine he will become friends with Ageha. I just don't see him being a long term bad guy. I'm actually really hoping our heroes get whisked back to the future soon, because I want more Oboro >_<

                                                    Agreed, agreed, and agreed. Except the Oboro bit which I could kinda take or leave. I'm more interested to see how the grown-up kids end up after things have been changed in the past. Mostly I want Grana-man to be a mondo pimp and slap some of his 'friends' around and then die/defect and to see a few of the kids (fire chick especially) turn evil.

                                                    Shit would make me pretty happy.

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                                                      Who would have guessed that another cra-hay-zee plot twist would

                                                      ! deprive them of their dumb deus ex machina attempt at neutralizing the Big Bad?

                                                      Another fairly dumb chapter; I realize this is the internet and nobody cares but I think I'm gonna stop reading this for a bit. It just gets me peeved, I don't enjoy the series at all any more. Oh, well.

                                                      ! Also, if Ageha's such a badass now, why didn't he (or the fully recuperated teacher, who SHOULD be a pragmatic badass) make sure their enemy was truly dead, or at least out of commission before wandering off to punch some numbers into a computer terminal? Such a blatant plot hole.

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                                                        It was obvious things wouldn't work out so easily. Eh. Not much to say about this chap.

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                                                          http://www.onemanga.com/Psyren/107/

                                                          new chapter is up..

                                                          how stupid was taht??
                                                          instead of killing him properly ageha goes that risk and ZACK! fireflies..fucking fireflies destroyed the chance to end it here…
                                                          well what else👅

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                                                            hmm… not much to say about this one.

                                                            Kind of a weak chapter.

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                                                              Shits about to get serious, 108 spoilers

                                                              ! the 2 guys are at the end are experiments, one has ice psy, the other has earth psy. They're attempting to summon Uroborous.
                                                              ! Meanwhile Kabuto learned a Cure based Rise ability and has been training with Ian. Sounds like his fighting style will be like the Naruto Kabuto's

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                                                                a lot of hate here for psyren in this forum…haha...i still love it though =D

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                                                                  the chapter is out
                                                                  http://binktopia.org/

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                                                                    The ice guy looks just like motherfucking CHOUJIN LOCKE.

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                                                                      bet me they don't stop the meteor form hitting.

                                                                      I miss Oboro. ]:

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                                                                        Ohhhh, this chapter looks interesting. But that's mainly because I like romance. That aside, it looks like there is a lot of dialog, and we are going back to the future next chapter. insert 'The Power of Love' song

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                                                                          Ohhhh, this chapter looks interesting. But that's mainly because I like romance. That aside, it looks like there is a lot of dialog, and we are going back to the future next chapter. insert 'The Power of Love' song

                                                                          Is 109 already out or you read RAWs?

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                                                                            Well, like I said, it looks interesting. Haha…

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                                                                              Anyone know why this gets low rankings in the reader polls?

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                                                                                Anyone know why this gets low rankings in the reader polls?

                                                                                Well last dozens chapters have been very underwhelming and mediciore, plot itself is not that unique and exceptional anymore, series was great at first quarter but have dwindled greatly after it.

                                                                                I really wait that they get back to the future again, it could be more intresting again.

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                                                                                  the chapter is out http://binktopia.org/

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                                                                                    Well last dozens chapters have been very underwhelming and mediciore, plot itself is not that unique and exceptional anymore, series was great at first quarter but have dwindled greatly after it.

                                                                                    I really wait that they get back to the future again, it could be more intresting again.

                                                                                    I can understand some chapters scoring low when there is mainly dialogue and plot advancement, but when you compare it to how bad Bleach and Naruto have become there really is no excuse for it to be so low in the reader poll.

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                                                                                      @Korought:

                                                                                      I can understand some chapters scoring low when there is mainly dialogue and plot advancement, but when you compare it to how bad Bleach and Naruto have become there really is no excuse for it to be so low in the reader poll.

                                                                                      I'm not entirely sure myself, but the ratings haven't been consistently bad. I believe the low scoring has more to do with the type of genre, than the content itself. Naruto, Bleach, and One Piece not only have a huge following for being long-running manga, but they are also packed with action, which apparently sells well in Japan. One Piece has an awesome story and action, which is why it consistently scores higher still. Psyren revolves more around drama and the psychological, with less action and more dialog in between. For what it is, the ratings do fairly well, fluctuating from mid, to upper, and then more commonly to the lower rankings.

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                                                                                      the chapter is out http://binktopia.org/

                                                                                      As for the chapter, it was decent. The story is still rough around the edges in some areas, but there is still a solid amount of character development and plot moving around each chapter, so I certainly am not getting bored, per se. With the next chapter bringing us back to the future, Kabuto's RISE / Menace, the romance between Amamiya and Ageha, and the "infiltration" Ageha seems to have planned should make the next arc pretty interesting.

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                                                                                        but when you compare it to how bad Bleach and Naruto have become there really is no excuse for it to be so low in the reader poll.

                                                                                        Well…if you take that kind of approach then yeah I sure agree with you, pretty much any series compared to current Naruto and Bleach are fantastic read but Naruto and Bleach enjoy high amounts of popularity and has build up fan base (that are slowly dwindling because constant trolling) from good begin.

                                                                                        Psyren in other hand uses a Time travel theme that is always risky and dangerous approach, sure it allows you easily build a decent plot but in time travel mangas there no certainty on anything and any deaths can usually diverted, although Psyrens time travel works only to future and back but if future can be altered by actions in past then all tragedys and romances in future can be made undone by actions in past.

                                                                                        Also Psyren has similar setup than Gantz (what is seinen) and to be honest Psyren wont stand to be compared with Gantz. Also Psyren's charecterisation is not that amazing, but I enjoy reading Psyren anyway although its not best shounen its certainly not the worst either.

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                                                                                          http://read.mangashare.com/Psyren/chapter-109/page001.html

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                                                                                            Random News: Early results don't have Psyren in the bottom seven this week.
                                                                                            Edit: It looks like it ranked in the top 5, wow. Right below OP, Naruto, and Bleach.

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                                                                                              So… was there a chapter this week?

                                                                                              EDIT: nevermind, there is one http://www.onemanga.com/Psyren/110/

                                                                                              ! ok chapter I guess… seemed a bit like filler to me, but if this is gonna be a bigger arc, all that goodbye-stuff is fine with me

                                                                                              "Going against the flow? Just means you're swimming in place. One day you are too tired to paddle, and suddenly you drown. Whole thing was pointless and now you're dead THE END. Now, going with the flow is where it's at - and that's the dandy way to live." - Space Dandy

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                                                                                                I'm not entirely sure myself, but the ratings haven't been consistently bad. I believe the low scoring has more to do with the type of genre, than the content itself. Naruto, Bleach, and One Piece not only have a huge following for being long-running manga, but they are also packed with action, which apparently sells well in Japan. One Piece has an awesome story and action, which is why it consistently scores higher still. Psyren revolves more around drama and the psychological, with less action and more dialog in between. For what it is, the ratings do fairly well, fluctuating from mid, to upper, and then more commonly to the lower rankings.

                                                                                                It reminds me more of a cult classic.

                                                                                                Finally, they are returning to the future, and hopefully we'll see our two missing characters. More importantly, Oboro. 😄

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                                                                                                  Chapter's up on Binktopia's website.

                                                                                                  This chapter reminded me a bit of the survival-horror theme that this manga began with XD

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                                                                                                    @Garaku:

                                                                                                    Chapter's up on Binktopia's website.

                                                                                                    This chapter reminded me a bit of the survival-horror theme that this manga began with XD

                                                                                                    http://read.homeunix.com/onlinereading/?image=Psyren/Psyren%20c111/00.png&server=nas.html

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                                                                                                    good chapter...a introduction of new opponents which seemed to be overpowered..but than they were quick brought back to the ground😄

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                                                                                                        New chapter is out http://www.onemanga.com/Psyren/112/

                                                                                                        ! I think its gotten better again… kinda cool to see what changes happened between this time in the future and the last time... I wonder if that Dimension Diver Guy will kill someone important or will be fodder for a few action chapters 😕

                                                                                                        "Going against the flow? Just means you're swimming in place. One day you are too tired to paddle, and suddenly you drown. Whole thing was pointless and now you're dead THE END. Now, going with the flow is where it's at - and that's the dandy way to live." - Space Dandy

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