Yaoi – Why is it interesting?

[Sanuzi]

e1n, are you seriously defending something that you're ASSUMING about the male populace? How are you to know that males enjoy yuri/the thought of lesbians because they'd like to be involved in it? That's quite short sighted on your part, as some people like myself just enjoy it because it's hot and would never participate themselves. Like Cyringohn said, why are you trying to generalize males? And then you get uppity and start arguing like a child. :sad: You have to accept that you're basing your "theory" on assumptions and generlizations that are not true.

Also,

@Cyringohn:

Because there's plenty of topics that can't really be answered with that reply.

However, asking why a sexual practice is interesting is about the silliest question ever. We can sit here and talk and talk and talk about it, coming up with generalizations and other crap, but it ultimately leads to one single factor: people are attracted to it.

As previously stated, the question is exactly the same as asking why some guys like girls with blonde hair. "WELL, I BELIEVE THIS STEMS FROM AN INNATE ATTRACTION TO THE COLOR YELLOW, POSSIBLY DUE TO A SUBCONSCIOUS LIKING OF THE SUN AND BLAH BLAH…" Er, no. Those people like blonde hair.

Your entire post consisted of utter common sense, and things that have nothing to do with the discussion, posts.

+"Yaoi is drawn in a style that girls read."
+"Most yaoi characters have no body hair and are pretty, because girls don't like real men."
+"Girls buy yaoi."
+"Guys like yuri because they like having a threesome."

Yeah, that's nice. But it doesn't even answer the question. Why? You can't logically explain why a demographic has a sexual attraction to what it does. Not without stereotyping everybody into some kind of Idiocy Lump that can't think for themselves.

This about sums up my feelings adequetly.

[tony-kun]

Yea, didn't get why people were all kissing E1n's ass for his "insightfulness" into why people like hentai and yuri, but then again I didn't really read it that closely.

and yea, "because it's hawt" is as good of a reason as any.

I just wonder how ones mindset changes into that while reading manga. Saw some pics on 4chan that my friend linked me to, that supposedly came out the day of the chapters. They were sexual(and hilarious) takes on happenings in the series.

I just think it's really strange how one can read the series and see all the happenings of the chapter as possible sexual encounters. (one of the pics was Robin "attaching" to Franky's dick in the "SUper Pirate 6" transformation.)

This is even going past yaoi and why people like these things. I'm just curious of how one person is able to read the series and see sexual possibilities in everything. That's fucking insane imo.

[Zephos]

If insightfulness = taking generalizations and prettying them up than by god, we are all potential scholars.

[cactusmomma]

@Cyringohn:

No, not really. It's dumb to generalize men like that.

This is actually how my husband explained it. He also said it was because 'nothing kills and erection more than seeing a hairy fat man behind a hot chick'

I personally still don't see the appeal of either of them. I just can't get into the fantasy aspect (that so many scary fangirls demand is the reason for it. "It's not real! It's fantasy! You're just a homophobe!" Which..I'm really not.) of it having been raised by a mother in the medical field. I keep seeing any intercourse from a germaphobe standpoint. Especially any sex scenes..for the most part, things are done condomless..so I keep thinking "Oh my god, that dude is gonna wake up with Hep B!"…..call it stupid, but meh. It happens.

[Rai]

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[taboo]

However, asking why a sexual practice is interesting is about the silliest question ever. We can sit here and talk and talk and talk about it, coming up with generalizations and other crap, but it ultimately leads to one single factor: people are attracted to it.

There's no reason why we still can't talk about it. I hardly think it's a matter of 'cause i just like it'. That's a generalization in itself, isn't it? I'm sure alot of girls get turned on because of it, but I'm also pretty sure a good chunk of it has to do with romance and 'moe'.

Basically, I'm just wondering why you felt the need to dissect e1n's post when yours is just as narrowsighted and offers pretty much nothing to the discussion at hand….

I don't much like yaoi... it doesn't really 'do it' for me (and Gravitation sux). There was one pairing though that I ever liked, and that was because the two had such great chemistry together~

[Zephos]

@cactusmomma:

This is actually how my husband explained it. He also said it was because 'nothing kills and erection more than seeing a hairy fat man behind a hot chick'

And…..so?
Is he the official spokesman of Y chromosomes or what?

[Natty Bumppo]

I don't find Yaoi itself to be much of a problem. It's one of those things like trees, cars, signs, etc. it's just there.

The problem lies within the fans. I don't think I've ever met a more annoying, pathetic, and stupid fanbase. It's fine to like it, just like it's fine for guys to watch porn or whatever. We each like our own things and I find no problem with that.

It when people go around saying "OMG SASUKE X NARUTO IS SO KAWAII!!111!!!" or go around comparing their real life male friends to a Yaoi couple that really grinds my gears.

And when you tell them to stop they call you a "baka" or tell you to "urusai" because you can't see the beauty in it.

Bullshit.

[Seal of Legends]

Those are the exact types of fans that I hate.

And SasuNaru is overrated, IMO. I really do not like it.

[CosmicDebris]

So, who made you guys opinion police anyway?

@Jay_n_Silentbob:

If you were to actually use Fruedian psychoanalysis on this topic, you'd be met with completely stupid theories like, "Girls don't have a penis but always wanted a penis, which is also why girls marry men; they subconscious crave to see what they don't have." (Which is close to what Wyoming was saying)

Which is why most people don't take Freudian theories anymore, they've become very obsolete and even ridiculed with the exception of a few things like id, ego, and superego and what-not.

If I were to use a more modern psychoanalysis, I would probably offend a few of the people who read these silly, silly comics.

Depends on which school of thought you choose, but I'm more a fan of just saying straight up from your own experience what you think rather than trying to text-book it.

Also, IMHO, hentai in general is just a way to substitute for the sex you so desperately crave but are not getting.

If that were true, only single people read porn, but most people who read porn are in a relationship. There are also cases of people who avoid real sex in favor of pornography. I've known some guys who are not being witheld from sex but they still like porn as sort of a hobby but others are obviously unfulfilled with their relationship as a whole…so as someone already complained about before, don't generalize.

@Sanuzi:

e1n, are you seriously defending something that you're ASSUMING about the male populace? How are you to know that males enjoy yuri/the thought of lesbians because they'd like to be involved in it? That's quite short sighted on your part, as some people like myself just enjoy it because it's hot and would never participate themselves. Like Cyringohn said, why are you trying to generalize males? And then you get uppity and start arguing like a child. :sad: You have to accept that you're basing your "theory" on assumptions and generlizations that are not true.

The level of anger and hurt in this post over someone expressing a theory is very curious. I don't think e1n was trying to say that all men are like that, but, fact is, some are, because I know guys like that. It sounds to me like you're trying to say that based on your own personal experience, generally, men don't, or most don't, and that is just as much of an assumption on your part as e1n's.

[Jay_n_Silentbob]

All this talk about generalization is making me wanna generalize the people who complain about generalizing….And not in a generally good way.

[Natty Bumppo]

I apologize for "generalizing" but I've been to a few conventions to know the type.

I was wrong in saying all yaoi fans are like that (although I didnt really say that), but the majority (and I mean majority) are like that. Hell I have about 4 in my Japanese class.

Oh, and Freudian Psychoanalytic theories arent riduculed, they are just not taken very seriously. We honestly do not know what goes on in our subconscious so what's to say women really don't want a penis?

[CosmicDebris]

@Natty:

Oh, and Freudian Psychoanalytic theories arent riduculed, they are just not taken very seriously.

depends on who you talk to ;)

We honestly do not know what goes on in our subconscious so what's to say women really don't want a penis?

I'm quite certain that at least some women do. >:3

[ligeia]

Uh….huh.

Yaoi discussion is serious business.

Doe this kind of discussion come up with hentai in general over here, or is yaoi special or something? When I first started lurking here, I used to see tons of erotic Nami and Robin sigs/avatars but you can't mention yaoi without it becoming "but why would anyone ever like that"

I read yaoi because I like it. I don't watch Jenna Jameson movies, but I'm sure a lot of other people do and that's cool too.

[CosmicDebris]

@ligeia:

Doe this kind of discussion come up with hentai in general over here, or is yaoi special or something?

hentai is pornographic manga/anime…yaoi is homosexual male pairings that are intended for women to read. They aren't always pornongraphic, like I said (read threads before posting maybe?), and do not need to be to be classified as yaoi.
I think it's a little more curious because of that fact, we all understand why guy like porn, but women being obsessed with anime men together over a heterosexual pair is something kind of new in our society.

[Kuroneko]

@CosmicDebris:

I think it's a little more curious because of that fact, we all understand why guy like porn

I don't

And I can't understand why this thinking "All men like porn".

[e1n]

@Sanuzi:

e1n, are you seriously defending something that you're ASSUMING about the male populace? How are you to know that males enjoy yuri/the thought of lesbians because they'd like to be involved in it? That's quite short sighted on your part, as some people like myself just enjoy it because it's hot and would never participate themselves. Like Cyringohn said, why are you trying to generalize males? And then you get uppity and start arguing like a child. :sad: You have to accept that you're basing your "theory" on assumptions and generlizations that are not true.

"seriously defending something?" not really. what i stated was NEVER meant to be anything more significant than personal observation. in case you did not read the first paragraph of my post back on page 1:

@e1n:

here's something to get a discussion started, and keep in mind that this is coming from a straight guy who KNOWS a lot of yaoi fangirls, but NOT a yaoi fan. so this is simply my observation.

if that's not very clear to you and everyone else here: i was just stating my thoughts on the matter. WHICH, is a whole lot better than complaining about the thread being pointless. some people say "oh ya, that makes sense." some people say "nah, that's not true." which gets a discussion going, and that's exactly what we want here, not a bunch of macros or people condemning this thread to hell by claiming that there is no need for discussion.

also, do i accept that my theory is "based on assumptions?" well, duh. of course. i observe a phenomenon, i make assumptions (which you can argue for or against), and then i hypothesize something that might be a possible explanation. if i were required to have solid experimental data to state an opinion, none of us would be saying anything.

[CosmicDebris]

@Kuroneko:

I don't

And I can't understand why this thinking "All men like porn".

I didn't say "all guys like porn", did I? checks Nope I did not.

OK, I can rephrase it a little better. Most people are USED to the idea of guys liking porn, because millions of men from practically the beginning of recorded history have liked something akin to porn. :) Before photographical magazines emerged, people made sequential erotic art.
And a lot of women like porn too.
I think one safe assumption to make is that a lot of people like porn because it turns them on, but maybe I'm overstepping my bounds there. But again, it's the specialization/preference that we're talking about here, not the effects it may or not have on a person.

[King Kobra]

Erhm..

Why is this thread still open?

I mean, there are just way too many types of mindsets out there to generalize the damn answer of "Why Yaoi is interesting?"…..

I think the topic should change to "Why do you happen to like Yaoi?" or some crap like that if the topic starter was actually interested in the reasons for some people to watch it instead of having a bunch of people arguing about finding just one reason for the popularity of Yaoi.

[KamenRiderNeko]

What I want to know is, why can't we have a decent discussion about anything here, without someone coming in and saying that this thread should be closed or whatever? What's it to you people if the discussion is 'pointless'? Like Cosmic said, if you don't like it, then don't read it.

Sorry, I just had to vent about it since I read through all the posts so far.

And to stay on topic…
I have honestly met guys that are not interested in porn at all. And of course, there are those that are, I don't have a problem with either. While some of my guy friends don't care for yaoi, they don't hold it against me, they just shrug it off. But its fun because two of my gay friends of course think its hot, so its fun sharing that with them XD

Most of my female friends are into porn, most of them yaoi fans. We all seem to like it for different reasons. For example, one of my friends tends to like the angsty ones, my other friend likes the pretty boys in general and like I've said before, I just pair whoever the hell I want. If people don't like it, then tough shit really. I also like yuri, it is fun to draw since I draw females better than males anyway...

[Kuroneko]

@CosmicDebris:

I didn't say "all guys like porn", did I? checks Nope I did not.

I'm sorry, but it's because the way you wrote looked like you are making it general. My apologizes.

What's it to you if the discussion is 'pointless'? Like Cosmic said, if you don't like it, then don't read it.

sigh Again this? I understand you guys want to stay a serious discussion here, but this "if you don't like it, don't read it" is no good. I mean, can't we express our opinion freely in the threads anymore? Do we need to be all-positive with the subject so we are welcome in it? Not that I want support the flamers/trolls with this statement.

[KamenRiderNeko]

@Kuroneko:

sigh Again this? I understand you guys want to stay a serious discussion here, but this "if you don't like it, don't read it" is no good. I mean, can't we express our opinion freely in the threads anymore? Do we need to be all-positive with the subject so we are welcome in it? Not that I want support the flamers/trolls with this statement.

Disagreeing with the subject at hand is fine, what irritates me is the usual responses that lead to flame wars, or stupid macros and youtube videos, that's all really. Its just annoying.

[Natty Bumppo]

@CosmicDebris:

depends on who you talk to ;)

True, my psychology teacher says Fruedian theories are crazy, but that we can't dismiss them. Which I believe is true, Freud contributed a lot to the world of psychology. His theories on women are based mostly on the fact that he had a lot of wealthy female patients. To say that his theories are lame or whatever is pretty biased in my book.

@CosmicDebris:

I'm quite certain that at least some women do. >:3

:pouty:

Another thing that I find pretty disgusting about Yaoi, is some of the pairs some fans fantasize. If I ever come across a Gon X Hisoka, or Reborn x Colonello comic again, I swear I'm going to kill somebody.

[Sanctum]

I'm neutral about yaoi. If you like it, man, you like it. I know guys that like yaoi, and they have girlfriends, and everything, so yeah. But, what other people have said before me, if you feel like incessantly ranting about pairings and such, well, it can get quite annoying. Just like any fanbase, really.

I myself don't see how a guy sticking it in another guys pooper can be enticing. But, i suppose I can say the same about yuri. More over hentai all together.

If I want to see porn, I'll watch real porn.

[Natty Bumppo]

I came in expecting you to say something really insulting, and was let down. =(

Good job.

[KamenRiderNeko]

@Sanctum:

I myself don't see how a guy sticking it in another guys pooper can be enticing.

Hahaha!! This made me laugh so hard XD

Yeah, when you think about it, it really isn't all that enticing like you said… In fact, I'm pretty sure it hurts like hell. I guess it is the fact that its something that is not real, and drawn very aesthetically pleasing so that you don't think about the reality of things like that.

Which is why oral sex is the way to go when it comes to yaoi

[CosmicDebris]

@Kaimei-Karasuhebi:

Erhm..

Why is this thread still open?

Better question…why are you still reading?

I mean, there are just way too many types of mindsets out there to generalize the damn answer of "Why Yaoi is interesting?"…..

Hence the discussion, if it was really a one word answer, then there wouldn't need to be a thread.

I think the topic should change to "Why do you happen to like Yaoi?"

Now here come the semantic police.

@Kuroneko:

sigh Again this? I understand you guys want to stay a serious discussion here, but this "if you don't like it, don't read it" is no good. I mean, can't we express our opinion freely in the threads anymore? Do we need to be all-positive with the subject so we are welcome in it? Not that I want support the flamers/trolls with this statement.

It's not people expressing dissenting opinions that bothers me, but people who are basically saying "there's nothing to discuss here, this topic should be closed, or just in general posting to be a pain in the ass…and don't say there aren't people who do that. If you disagree with what people say then let's hear it, but not "yawn this topic is dumb I don't get why you guys need to discuss this". I reopened the topic because I could see there actually could be some discussion in here, and it's gone pretty much how I figured.

@Natty:

True, my psychology teacher says Fruedian theories are crazy, but that we can't dismiss them. Which I believe is true, Freud contributed a lot to the world of psychology. His theories on women are based mostly on the fact that he had a lot of wealthy female patients. To say that his theories are lame or whatever is pretty biased in my book.

Well, I agree that maybe it's not necessary to dismiss all his theories, there's probably a little bit of truth in them, at least for some people. But I think they were biased and also, not allowing for much variety in the human population. We're all very complex individuals and I never like the idea of people nailing all human motivation down to a science.

@pirateneko:

Yeah, when you think about it, it really isn't all that enticing like you said… In fact, I'm pretty sure it hurts like hell. I guess it is the fact that its something that is not real, and drawn very aesthetically pleasing so that you don't think about the reality of things like that.

Well, that's the thing yaoi is very neat and tidy in a fantasy sense and it is certainly not like real gay relationship. It's like romance novels in comic form featuring pretty anime boys. :)

[roamingwyoming]

@pirateneko:

Which is why oral sex is the way to go when it comes to yaoi

I totally stumbled upon some SzayelxIshida of this particular type yesterday…

Really made me prefer the buttsecks fics.

[KamenRiderNeko]

@CosmicDebris:

Well, that's the thing yaoi is very neat and tidy in a fantasy sense and it is certainly not like real gay relationship. It's like romance novels in comic form featuring pretty anime boys. :)

Pretty much :) Though there are some of those stories that are a little more realistic and graphic… or just straight up rape (which somehow usually winds up with the uke enjoying it and wanting more...)... and then there is bara (GROSS!!)

But yeah, what can I say? I likes to watch/read/draw the mansecks >:3 I can go on and on about many different pairings I like, lol

@roamingwyoming:

I totally stumbled upon some SzayelxIshida of this particular type yesterday…

Really made me prefer the buttsecks fics.

LOL! Was it that bad…? XD Yeah, I prefer the buttsecks usually too... Sometimes I get bored with the story and skip right to that part, lol! is such a pervert

[roamingwyoming]

@pirateneko:

LOL! Was it that bad…? XD Yeah, I prefer the buttsecks usually too... Sometimes I get bored with the story and skip right to that part, lol! is such a pervert

It was in-character, I must at least give it that. And non-con… I just prefer them being able to scream out in utter ecstacy whisper sweet nothings at each other while they're going at it. Kinda hard to do with a cock down your throat…

Haha, peeeeeeerv. I prefer the post-sex cuddling.

[e1n]

@Kaimei-Karasuhebi:

Why is this thread still open?

because it's obviously not for you to decide what remains open and what remains closed.

so far the discussion here has been decent. the only thing that has been less than decent is the number of people complaining despite the thread carrying a perfectly decent discussion.

if you think there is no need to discuss this, then you just don't click the thread. that's what i do with the thread that a lot of you start, anyway. you don't see me going to every single one of the threads saying that there's no point in discussing the topic.

now, STOP the bloody complaining or i will start sending out warnings. again: IF YOU THINK THERE IS NO POINT IN DISCUSSING THIS, THEN JUST DON'T. whether a thread is closed or open is not for you to decide.

@Kuroneko:

sigh Again this? I understand you guys want to stay a serious discussion here, but this "if you don't like it, don't read it" is no good. I mean, can't we express our opinion freely in the threads anymore? Do we need to be all-positive with the subject so we are welcome in it? Not that I want support the flamers/trolls with this statement.

then talk about the topic. so far the only thing derailing the discussion is people complaining about how the thread should be closed because there is no point in discussing it.

[CosmicDebris]

pokes e1n hey, you're derailing the subject. :)

[e1n]

oh whoops. i'll be quiet now.

[Kuroneko]

Disagreeing with the subject at hand is fine, what irritates me is the usual responses that lead to flame wars, or stupid macros and youtube videos, that's all really. Its just annoying.

…

No comment here. And that is not because of that Monty Python clip.

It's not people expressing dissenting opinions that bothers me, but people who are basically saying "there's nothing to discuss here, this topic should be closed, or just in general posting to be a pain in the ass…and don't say there aren't people who do that. If you disagree with what people say then let's hear it, but not "yawn this topic is dumb I don't get why you guys need to discuss this". I reopened the topic because I could see there actually could be some discussion in here, and it's gone pretty much how I figured.

I guess I understand your point of view. I agree that things like "This is topic is dumb…" don't add anything, but still the phrase "Don't like it, don't read it" is as silly as that one.

then talk about the topic.

Okay.

I think yaoi is interesting because girls find it romantic and erotic. And I like to read the stories that my friends write; they are funny. But generally, yaoi for me is just like "Oh cool. What's next?": It's decent, but not my favorite meal.

[Jay_n_Silentbob]

@pirateneko:

Pretty much :) Though there are some of those stories that are a little more realistic and graphic… or just straight up rape (which somehow usually winds up with the uke enjoying it and wanting more...)... and then there is bara (GROSS!!)

Is it wrong if I already know what an uke is?

…Am...Am I any less of a man for knowing this?

(Damn you Genshiken...Damn you...)

Also, stating the opinion that a topic should be closed is still an opinion; they're basically saying that they view Yaoi as something that does not need discussion.

But then again, stating your opinion on those opinions is also an opinion...

[CosmicDebris]

@Jay_n_Silentbob:

Also, stating the opinion that a topic should be closed is still an opinion; they're basically saying that they view Yaoi as something that does not need discussion.

Except, the closing of topics is up to the mods/admin's discretion…BF at first closed the topic, and we discussed it and I decided to reopen it, so whining in the thread about is pointless. Most of us have a big pet peeve about people saying demanding a topic be closed anyway.

And that's the last I say about that, no more off-topic arguing about whether certain topics are discussable or what constitutes a valid opinion and whatnot.

[KamenRiderNeko]

@roamingwyoming:

It was in-character, I must at least give it that. And non-con… I just prefer them being able to scream out in utter ecstacy whisper sweet nothings at each other while they're going at it. Kinda hard to do with a cock down your throat…

Haha, peeeeeeerv. I prefer the post-sex cuddling.

XDDDD I do love your take on that, and I do agree that is always nicer at times.

And yeah… I'm horribly corrupted

Is it wrong if I already know what an uke is?

…Am...Am I any less of a man for knowing this?

Nothing wrong with that :happy:

[taboo]

@CosmicDebris:

Except, the closing of topics is up to the mods/admin's discretion…BF at first closed the topic, and we discussed it and I decided to reopen it, so whining in the thread about is pointless. Most of us have a big pet peeve about people saying demanding a topic be closed anyway.

And that's the last I say about that, no more off-topic arguing about whether certain topics are discussable or what constitutes a valid opinion and whatnot.

[captain usopp]

lol taboo, you were just looking for an excuse to use that. ^_^@Jay_n_Silentbob:

Also, stating the opinion that a topic should be closed is still an opinion; they're basically saying that they view Yaoi as something that does not need discussion…

well when you put it that way, Yaoi SHOULD be discussed. it's for the greater good. who wouldn't want to discuss yaoi.

I don't mind the cute cuddly stuff. not into all the sexual stuff. (i know i'm boring) I also enjoy the art style. I think someone pointed out, it's drawn in a way that is pleaseing to women. I tend to like the girly boys. too.

[BobTheDarkOne]

@Natty:

Reborn x Colonello comic.

People sexualize babies now? What has the world come to?

[Sanctum]

@BobTheDarkOne:

People sexualize babies now? What has the world come to?

…Stay off 12chan.
You have been warned.

[e1n]

@BobTheDarkOne:

People sexualize babies now? What has the world come to?

it was their older version actually.

[fps_anth]

@Buuhan1:

Yep, e1n hit the nail dead on with that one.

But I for one really don't care for yuri. I like the chemistry between a man and a woman most.

QFT.

Nothing else to say.

[RoastBeef]

@e1n:

keep in mind that this is coming from a straight guy who KNOWS a lot of yaoi fangirls, but NOT a yaoi fan.

a straight guy who KNOWS a lot of yaoi fangirls, but NOT a yaoi fan.

NOT a yaoi fan

I'm trying very, very hard to take your word on that.

And (adult) Reborn/Colonello is downright tame, come on.

[Taleran]

@e1n:

the reason why a guy likes girl-on-girl is because they IMAGINE themselves being a part of it.

except for the fact that I think its just because its 2 naked girls…...and thats all that needs to be said

[Bounty1Berry]

@e1n:

it was their older version actually.

Plus, you've already taken an infant, given him the power of speech, an elaborate outfit a real infant would just drool over, a powerful position in organized crime, and a dead aim with a pistol.

"Is this reasonable" long ago flew out the window with Reborn!

except for the fact that I think its just because its 2 naked girls…...and thats all that needs to be said

Then how come my Kureha x Kokoro yuri won't sell?! Answer me!

[Taleran]

oh shit, forgot the crucial word

HOT!

[megakazul]

@e1n:

another argument against that theory is that if you ask any random yaoi fangirl, 60-70% of the time, they'll say that they like yaoi ONLY in the realm of manga/anime. in other words, if you show them a clip of real gay porn (with real men and not anime men), most likely they'll go EWWW THAT'S GROSS.

For some reason I find this odd. I don't know if its just in your area but over here, the majority of Yaoi fangirls don't limit themselves to manga/anime but a lot other fiction in a variety of media. Harry Potter and LOTR for one are popular slash material that aren't manga/anime. Then theres the videogames and the TV shows…..It just doesn't stop.

…even straight guys have started going into the yaoi business to make money.

Can ya list any besides yourself? XD

[RoastBeef]

@megakazul:

Then theres the videogames and the TV shows…..It just doesn't stop.

Don't forget real people (boy bands, popular actors, etc.).

DO NOT WANT D:

[e1n]

@megakazul:

For some reason I find this odd. I don't know if its just in your area but over here, the majority of Yaoi fangirls don't limit themselves to manga/anime but a lot other fiction in a variety of media. Harry Potter and LOTR for one are popular slash material that aren't manga/anime. Then theres the videogames and the TV shows…..It just doesn't stop.

i'm sure there are people like that too. i've come across yaoi pairings from house or grey's anatomy. but from what i've seen around y!gallery, there are more people who restrict their yaoi fondness within the two-dimensional realm (that's why i said about 60-70%).