One piece Fighters are way too powerful. I dont have prblm with it, but still they are way to powerful.
Is oda making his Characters too powerful
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Because the story has progressed farther than any other manga currently in Weekly SJ? They've developed since what they were at the beginning of the story?
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I'm cool with it, as long as he keeps up his pace.
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First off, making comparisons to other series in terms of "who'd win da fight?" is not a great way to open. Arguments could be made, and levels of power vary from series to series.
AAAAnywy, are they too powerful? Not really, no, since they're all balanced in terms of power, since there's a lot of supa powerful guys. That, and they balance it out with realistic limits of morality like battleships, guns, and whatnot.
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I don't think that Oda makes his characters too powerful. The way he makes them fits into the epic storyline.
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No.
Sixteen characters are balanced.
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They aren't too powerful, you're just comparing to other series..which is out of their universe.
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Yeah, I don't see how they're too powerful if a good portion of them are unable to swim.
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WTF? Sogeking v. Arlong? That's not even a fight, Sogeking would win in an instant.
And it does seem that no one swims in OP, except for Sanji, but in the scheme of OP, he's not considered powerful because
A) He had no prior relations to anyone totally relevent, or is related to anyone famous
B) Didn't "go through anything" before he joined the crew
C) Didn't eat a DF
D) Doesn't have a massive bounty, and no one can recognize him anywaySo that shows how power is in OP: Like real life, you have to have a rep to have the world think you're strong or overpower you. If everyone in OP had as big of reps as WB or whoever, we'd find the world covered in supa-strong guys.
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While creating shockwaves that can cut a ship in half and hurling a cannonball twice as large as a battleship by only natural strength is weird, I'm more concerned by the apparent unrealistic invulnerability to fatal attacks. Like that Clover guy in Robin's flashback who was shot like 5 times in the vitals, and didn't die until Buster Call finally killed everyone, or how hundreds of millions of volts of electricity just leave normal not-rubber people semi-blackened.
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Clover died from the gunshots, just not all right away.
And with Enel not killing everyone, lighting will really only kill you if it crosses your heart and turns it off. Just shocking someone, even if it burns their innards, would totally kill them. He did kill some guys that way, though.
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it's fantasy, it doesn't matter how strong they get. just look at DBZ.
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They had whole universes to compare themselves to in DBZ.
And everyone was weaker than Mr. Satan, so it didn't really matter how many powerups they got.
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@Impel:
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WTF? Sogeking v. Arlong? That's not even a fight, Sogeking would win in an instant.
Lol. People seriously underestimate Arlong.
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Arlong could kill Nami, Ussop, and Chopper by stopping their hearts with one glance from his deadly Fishman eyes.
BOUNTIES~~=~~STREGNTH
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Too powerful? No. Dragon Ball that's a series with characters being overpowered. Goku could easily fly into outer space and destroy the entire Solar System if he wanted too. Luffy? He could probably destroy an army or fleet. Maybe bust up an Island.
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@Lobster:
Arlong could kill Nami, Ussop, and Chopper by stopping their hearts with one glance from his deadly Fishman eyes.
BOUNTIES~~=~~STREGNTH
They do not. It's been said, time and time again, that your bounty represents your threat level. That's how 8 year old Robin got 79M, because she could read poneglyhes so she had a large threat level.
And to toni, I agree, the strength in OP is more realistic than in DBZ.
And at least no one is OP has those silly Jojo/DBZ log arms and legs. Even Whitebeard's muscles were drawn realistically.
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It's definitely starting to down that road, but it's only inevitable. Happens to every shonen.
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What, until they're too powerful? Well, the New World will probably seem like the entire DBZ series with all the bad-asses in there, so it may seem overpowered at that point.
Oda's really going to need to figure out a way to not make the NW just seem like constant battling between uber-crews and the SHs.
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The problem's that Oda NEEDS to keep upping the stakes, and considering the manga's on the way of becoming the highest-selling shonen of all time, there's no way sueisha will let him end the series anytime soon.
As long as he puts as much love and energy in to the stories as he does now, though, I'm cool with it.
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While creating shockwaves that can cut a ship in half and hurling a cannonball twice as large as a battleship by only natural strength is weird, I'm more concerned by the apparent unrealistic invulnerability to fatal attacks. Like that Clover guy in Robin's flashback who was shot like 5 times in the vitals, and didn't die until Buster Call finally killed everyone, or how hundreds of millions of volts of electricity just leave normal not-rubber people semi-blackened.
volts arent that dangerous. a static electricity generator sceience teachers use to make their hair stand up can generate thousands of volt.
its the current (ampere) that kills ya =P and oda never specified the ampere.
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I think it's more that it's a goofy pirate comic involving magic and superhumans than anything else.
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One piece is doing a good job about power levels.Although it is shounen.But still Im afraid oda is just gtting started at powers.
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One piece is doing a good job about power levels.Although it is shounen.But still Im afraid oda is just gtting started at powers.
What do you want??!! I mean, we've already had islands blown up. How much more powerful can they get? You don't wanna see planets getting blown up in One Piece, now do you?
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Blowing up islands wasn't a power. It was just battleships shooting cannons. And Enel's probably blowing planets up now.
But pokemaster95, he's already had some pretty huge powers in OP as it is, like Goro Goro no mi, Yama Yama no mi, Suna Suna no mi, Ushi Ushi no mi: Model Giraffe, although, that one just shows us how great Oda is as a writer.
And it terms of just strength, cutting the sky open.
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@Impel:
Blowing up islands wasn't a power. It was just battleships shooting cannons. And Enel's probably blowing planets up now.
But pokemaster95, he's already had some pretty huge powers in OP as it is, like Goro Goro no mi, Yama Yama no mi, Suna Suna no mi, Ushi Ushi no mi: Model Giraffe, although, that one just shows us how great Oda is as a writer.
And it terms of just strength, cutting the sky open.
The Buster Call and Enel's Raigou were the only things capable of blowing up islands.
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Forgot about Raigou, right. But that was just part of a power, and Enel was pretty overpowered, that's true. But I guess he was supposed to be crazy-strong, since he was supposed to be God.
And they made it so only Luffy could defeat him, so that made the power level even more interesting.
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@Impel:
They do not. It's been said, time and time again, that your bounty represents your threat level.
I put a slash… A slash means that bounty's do not equal strength.
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It wasn't very clear. Try regular size font.
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@Impel:
It wasn't very clear. Try regular size font.
O___O Yea, you're right xD It actually looks more like a hamburger.
Freakin' Akatsuki =P
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Too powerful? No. Dragon Ball that's a series with characters being overpowered. Goku could easily fly into outer space and destroy the entire Solar System if he wanted too. Luffy? He could probably destroy an army or fleet. Maybe bust up an Island.
Goku never managed to survive in space… Starting w/ Z he really became the Trump Card Character.
As for One Piece, I don't think that the characters are 'Too' strong, they just have what it takes to survive in their hectic era.
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Speaking of the Strawhats' adventures in the New World, it would be interesting to see if there are many pirates there or not. With the Yonkou sailing those waters, I imagine that the hordes of pirates that make the Grand Line home are rather sparse.
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Number three? As compared to what?
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Too strong?? I don't think so, I think that so far their powers have all been well-balanced and such. and when it comes to the new world, just look at the beginning of the series when they were talking about the grand line they made it sound like it was going to be full of uber-powerful guys but when they got there it wasnt really like that.
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Well the East Blue pirates are the weakest kind of pirates so Grand line pirates are like gods to them.
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@Tressach:
Too strong?? I don't think so, I think that so far their powers have all been well-balanced and such. and when it comes to the new world, just look at the beginning of the series when they were talking about the grand line they made it sound like it was going to be full of uber-powerful guys but when they got there it wasnt really like that.
Oh but it was! You can´t say that the Grand Line is not like it was told to be because the Strawhats are an easy going bunch. They are the friggin protagonists so it is to be expected from them that they true to their characters no matter what they face.
But leave the Strawhats aside and compare East Blue and Grand Line. It doesn´t matter if it is the enemies, the environment or the sea creatures, the Grand Line is definitely far more dangerous then East Blue. And if you´re not as easy going as Luffy & Co, then the GL definitely offers pretty much everything that´s capable of making the East Blue weaklings wet themselves. It was exactly what it was told to be.
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Theres a huge amount of super strong/invincible characters in OP. There are some that we haven't seen yet that are pretty much omnipotent (especially the Earth's Devil Fruit, which can make the user use the Earth for his advantage. Another one like it, but this one is probably water, and not to mention air). Then theres the unstoppable light fruit, which allow the user to use the power of the sun and create spirit bombs or something (haha, j/k)
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Powerful characters are just fine…as long as the creativity is maintained.
For instance: I liked Enies Lobby, but it struck a worrying chord with me. Introduction of power levels, flying, superspeed, razor wind attacks, all that stuff you've heard people complaining about before.
I worried then that the arcs to follow, particularly the threatened power increases of the 'new world', would be a tirade of level-ups, drawn-out martial arts battles, andthe starwhats all eventually learning to fly and shoot lasers. In short, becoming kind of...generic. Losing its unique Oda-spark.
Fortunately the next arc, with its emphasis on atmosphere and bizarre design, has calmed me down a bit. The battles are innovative, and mostly pretty short. This is good.
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Oda's characters have limits. They aren't too powerful in the context of the world they exist in.
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Too POWERFUL? Think about what you are saying for a second… Unlike DBZ which had all the enemies having the same sort of moves, the villains of One Piece all have different Abilities and Fighting Styles, so unlike DBZ, it's not who is the most POWERFUL that matters, it's WHO HAS THE BETTER FIGHTING STYLE that matters. Unless someone beats Enel's Island Destroying Ball of Doom, we can not say that Oda is making the characters too powerful
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You can't even begin to say they're too powerful after you read Jojo's Bizarre Adventure.
Compared to that, Luffy's weak.
I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.
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@Fire Fist:
You can't even begin to say they're too powerful after you read Jojo's Bizarre Adventure.
Compared to that, Luffy's weak.
Hm, I´m getting old and my memory fails me more often these days so could you please remind me of a Jojo character that is strong enough destroy a whole part of a city with the strenght of his fists alone?
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@Fire Fist:
You can't even begin to say they're too powerful after you read Jojo's Bizarre Adventure.
Compared to that, Luffy's weak.
Jojo's characters can beat Dragon ball z characters.
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It's clear that Dio's the strongest man in the world.
He got Hiro from Heroes to use his battle cry.
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Hm, I´m getting old and my memory fails me more often these days so could you please remind me of a Jojo character that is strong enough destroy a whole part of a city with the strenght of his fists alone?
Jojo characters can warp reality, control time, or nullify anything, so feats of physical strength can't really be compared to such cheap abilities.
Gold Experience Requiem could rape everyone in One Piece.
Strung out in heaven's high, hitting an all-time low.
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@Mr.:
Jojo characters can warp reality, control time, or nullify anything, so feats of physical strength can't really be compared to such cheap abilities.
Gold Experience Requiem could rape everyone in One Piece.
The thing is though that we´re talking about two completely different worlds that function so different from each other that such a general statement about to which one is stronger simply cannot be made.
Let Oda handle all those abilities like controling time, warping reality etc. and I guarantee that Luffy will find a way to beat the hell out of the enemy in a (in One Piece) plausible way.
I wasn´t saying that Jojo characters/abilities are weak. I was stating that comparing Jojo to One Piece with consequently trying to make a fair conclusion as to which one has stronger characters is simply senseless. If they´d be One Piece characters Luffy would rape everybody from Jojo. And if Luffy´d be a Jojo character, he would most probably be raped by everyone there.
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Too POWERFUL? Think about what you are saying for a second… Unlike DBZ which had all the enemies having the same sort of moves, the villains of One Piece all have different Abilities and Fighting Styles, so unlike DBZ, it's not who is the most POWERFUL that matters, it's WHO HAS THE BETTER FIGHTING STYLE that matters. Unless someone beats Enel's Island Destroying Ball of Doom, we can not say that Oda is making the characters too powerful
What about Soru or Characters being able to move at Super High Speed (Which is a notorious cliche)
My two cents on it all, I don't think they're getting overpowered
I mean Luffy had to take! Lucchi Down using a modified version of the Gatling and then look how everybody got they're asses handed to them by Luffy's Shadow (which we all saw coming especially with the way Zoro,Sanji, & Usopp were kicking ass without too much trouble.)
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Toriyama-yes.
Oda-RESOLUTE NO.
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The bad thing is that the "One Piece Pausible Way" is always relying on cockyness to allow Luffy to deliver the fatal blow, so it's not like Luffy's actually ubberly powerful, but rather that his opponents never go 100% to kill him off.
