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      I apologize if this has already been said, I tried to search but couldn't find it. If this hasn't been said, I'll be confused as this seemed very obvious to be almost immediately.

      We all know that Luffy copies other people's attacks from time to time, or rather incorporates others techniques into his own. Cool. Whatever. Well what about Bellamy's power?

      It seems that Luffy could easily launch himself just like Bellamy making his rubber legs act just like springs. The biggest problem I see is that he hasn't done it yet. Typically these copy attacks occur soon after the original and Luffy hasn't seen Bellamy in god knows how many chapters.

      What do you guys think?

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        you DO know luffy is rubber, right?
        And if you squezee Rubber, it doens't jump away like springs do, right?
        He could copy it when, e.g., using the Gumo Gumo no Rocket, but then he'll just crash into the next building since he, and I have to put emphasis on this, is rubber!

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          Maybe I don't view bellamy's attack the same as you. While I do agree that Luffy does copy and incorporate other's moves into his own arsenal. Bellamy's spring attack he used against luffy is one of those attacks that's just wild and takes too much time to build to attack. The counter luffy gave bellamy was devastating. I personally don't think this is a good move for luffy to copy, but that's just my thoughts on it.

          But, i like the idea of trying to guesstimate at what moves luffy will copy next, or where he will get his next inspiration.

          WARNING (Explicit Dialog)!!

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            I hope "ODDZ BALL" is learned by Luffy after he gets his shadow back. There's nothing more devasting than a rubber man bouncing around like a ball, specially in a small room of sorts…

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              id like to see the straw hats encounter enel again and copy his mantra. that would make them so much stronger as a whole.

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                I hope "ODDZ BALL" is learned by Luffy after he gets his shadow back. There's nothing more devasting than a rubber man bouncing around like a ball, specially in a small room of sorts…

                This is no Ooz attack but a Moria kage kage no mi move… So I don't think Luffy's about to learn it.

                OnT: Maybe he's inspired by one of the shadows he's hosting for the next chapter(s).

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                  id like to see the straw hats encounter enel again and copy his mantra. that would make them so much stronger as a whole.

                  You can't learn mantra in Odaverse. It's something they had at birth.

                  Originally Posted by Silence

                  And when this manga closes out, and Luffy's arm stretches back to deliver that last punch, I wanna feel the crunch of the dream coming true.

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                    Really? I remember the little girl allways haveing it, but i thought the priests learned it… Satori seemed to have some problems with it during his fight with Luffy.

                    Still... learning mantra? a skill that requires you to be clam, in a shonen where anger fuels their strenght? ... doesnt strike me as this was though through.

                    Originally Posted by Ivotas

                    What the…? Holy smurf am I slow! Until this statement of yours I never even realized that an octopus is actually serving octopusballs. Talk about not seeing the forest because of too many trees. facepalm

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                      @Kaimei-Karasuhebi:

                      I hope "ODDZ BALL" is learned by Luffy after he gets his shadow back. There's nothing more devasting than a rubber man bouncing around like a ball, specially in a small room of sorts…

                      I'm imagining that the best thing to do with that would be in Gear Third and inflate your ribcage and bounce around.

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                      Teenagers watch crap like Family Guy and South Park and make insults like fuck you and some does drugs or play sports or play video games.

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                        Really? I remember the little girl allways haveing it, but i thought the priests learned it… Satori seemed to have some problems with it during his fight with Luffy.

                        Still... learning mantra? a skill that requires you to be clam, in a shonen where anger fuels their strenght? ... doesnt strike me as this was though through.

                        No the Skypeians are born with mantra. It's just a matter of whether they work on improving their skill with it. The little girl just happened to be gifted with her mantra from the start.

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                          If Luffy uses his legs as springs, he goes Gear 2…

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                            No the Skypeians are born with mantra. It's just a matter of whether they work on improving their skill with it. The little girl just happened to be gifted with her mantra from the start.

                            But why didnt Satori's tripplet brothers have mantra then? =S

                            Where was this stated?

                            If Luffy uses his legs as springs, he goes Gear 2…

                            Eh? Isn't that if he uses his legs as pumps? Dont think bouncing would force Luffy into Gear 2…

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                            What the…? Holy smurf am I slow! Until this statement of yours I never even realized that an octopus is actually serving octopusballs. Talk about not seeing the forest because of too many trees. facepalm

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                              Eh? Isn't that if he uses his legs as pumps? Dont think bouncing would force Luffy into Gear 2…

                              Well, bouncing off of his legs would cause them to contract, wouldn't it? Same effect, really.

                              I'd enjoy Bellamy learning geppou… Too bad he's dead...

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                                But why didnt Satori's tripplet brothers have mantra then? =S

                                Where was this stated?

                                I don't mean every single person in Skypeia is born with mantra. Probably only a percentage were born with it, but even then, they have to work at it to improve on their mantra. Some might be more gifted with it naturally than others though, like Aisa(I think that's her name).

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                                  I'd enjoy Bellamy learning geppou… Too bad he's dead...

                                  No shit, i would like to go to odaverse and get the spring fruit as now bellamys dead, and go rokushiki madness with the spring power… 😛

                                  But Oz Ball seems nice maybe a gear 3 + just wrapping his arms and legs around and then trying to a ball shape... bit hard prolly as his chest thends to be chest shaped 😛

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                                    @Kidany:

                                    I don't mean every single person in Skypeia is born with mantra. Probably only a percentage were born with it, but even then, they have to work at it to improve on their mantra. Some might be more gifted with it naturally than others though, like Aisa(I think that's her name).

                                    Which means that any blue sea dweller could possibly have mantra without knowing it? Since obviously not training your mantra skills means that you are as crappy at it as Satoris identical brothers.

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                                    What the…? Holy smurf am I slow! Until this statement of yours I never even realized that an octopus is actually serving octopusballs. Talk about not seeing the forest because of too many trees. facepalm

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                                      I think that Luffy can do some kind of Shape attack you know turn into a cube or a cone…( Geometry meanings)

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                                        God damn, this is as bad as the "Real Gear 4th" thread. Oda isn't going to make Luffy copy another characters fruit/abilities who Luffy beat without even using his own abilities.

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                                            well oda could always make luffy a skypien

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                                              Which means that any blue sea dweller could possibly have mantra without knowing it? Since obviously not training your mantra skills means that you are as crappy at it as Satoris identical brothers.

                                              Ok you're not getting what I'm saying. It's obvious anything I mention pertaining to mantra has nothing to do with people born in the Blue Seas or the Grand Line. So I'll put it step by step:

                                              1)You have to be born somewhere up in Skypeia.

                                              2)Then out of the people born in Skypeia, only some of them even have a chance at being able to use mantra.

                                              3)After that, whoever has the ability to use mantra have to train at it in order to use it more effectively. Obviously, some might be naturally gifted at using mantra.

                                              I really don't get why you brought up people from the Blues in the first place though.

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                                                He copied Wapols attack and used it on Crocodile.

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                                                  Ok you're not getting what I'm saying. It's obvious anything I mention pertaining to mantra has nothing to do with people born in the Blue Seas or the Grand Line. So I'll put it step by step:

                                                  1)You have to be born somewhere up in Skypeia.

                                                  2)Then out of the people born in Skypeia, only some of them even have a chance at being able to use mantra.

                                                  3)After that, whoever has the ability to use mantra have to train at it in order to use it more effectively. Obviously, some might be naturally gifted at using mantra.

                                                  I really don't get why you brought up people from the Blues in the first place though.

                                                  When is 1) mentioned?

                                                  Why doesn't Satori's identical tripplet brothers use mantra? If Satori was born with it they must surely have it as well, right? If by not training it they appear not to have it, isnt it possible that some of the others (for the sake of argument i will by others only refere to Raiders/Skypieans) have it without realizing?

                                                  Aisa was a raider right? Meaning a decendant of the people originateing on bluesea Jaya? So why can't mantra have spread out to the blue sea?

                                                  (The reason the bluesea dwellers were brought up is because that is what Luffy and the gang is. The reason we are even discussing this is because silverson wanted the Strawhats to copy Enels mantra.)

                                                  Originally Posted by Ivotas

                                                  What the…? Holy smurf am I slow! Until this statement of yours I never even realized that an octopus is actually serving octopusballs. Talk about not seeing the forest because of too many trees. facepalm

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                                                    When is 1) mentioned?

                                                    It wasn't mentioned, but since everyone who used mantra was from Skypeia, I can safely assume that.

                                                    Why doesn't Satori's identical tripplet brothers use mantra? If Satori was born with it they must surely have it as well, right?

                                                    That's like saying since one twin in a family is a natural genius, the other is by default. It doesn't work that way.

                                                    If by not training it they appear not to have it, isnt it possible that some of the others (for the sake of argument i will by others only refere to Raiders/Skypieans) have it without realizing?

                                                    You're argument is basically:

                                                    "Since it doesn't look like they have mantra, we can assume that they don't know they have it." Are you serious? If it doesn't look like they have mantra, it's pretty obvious that they don't have it. They were in the middle of a war to take back their land. If they had mantra we would've seen them use it.

                                                    Aisa was a raider right? Meaning a decendant of the people originateing on bluesea Jaya? So why can't mantra have spread out to the blue sea?

                                                    Because the descendants of Calgara and the others that were sent up were born in the sky. Why do you think mantra has only been seen up in Skypeia?

                                                    (The reason the bluesea dwellers were brought up is because that is what Luffy and the gang is. The reason we are even discussing this is because silverson wanted the Strawhats to copy Enels mantra.)

                                                    And I'm discussing why it can't possibly be copied. I already explained why so I'll just end it here.

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                                                      It wasn't mentioned, but since everyone who used mantra was from Skypeia, I can safely assume that.

                                                      That's like saying since one twin in a family is a natural genius, the other is by default. It doesn't work that way.

                                                      Come again? You were implying that mantra was genetically inherited. Don't come and say people that share the same identical genetic makeup don't share the possibility of a genetical power.

                                                      Beeing a genious has its roots in both enviroment and genetics. Haveing blue eyes does not.

                                                      You're argument is basically:

                                                      "Since it doesn't look like they have mantra, we can assume that they don't know they have it."

                                                      Are you serious? If it doesn't look like they have mantra, it's pretty obvious that they don't have it. They were in the middle of a war to take back their land. If they had mantra we would've seen them use it.

                                                      No. My argument was that they had the possibility of learning it because their identical brother had it, and you say that only people with certain genetics can get it.
                                                      And since they should have it but does not show any signs of it others could possibly have the potential of gaining mantra through training.

                                                      Because the descendants of Calgara and the others that were sent up were born in the sky. Why do you think mantra has only been seen up in Skypeia?

                                                      And I'm discussing why it can't possibly be copied. I already explained why so I'll just end it here.

                                                      It is possible that some of the old Jaya inhabitants left Jaya at some point and mixed with regular people. Personally i will not rule that out untill Oda states they never did. (Which is unlikely since the Enel coverstory feutering that old man on mecha island)

                                                      I'm not satisfied with your answer so far. It feels contradictory.

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                                                      What the…? Holy smurf am I slow! Until this statement of yours I never even realized that an octopus is actually serving octopusballs. Talk about not seeing the forest because of too many trees. facepalm

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                                                        God damn, this is as bad as the "Real Gear 4th" thread. Oda isn't going to make Luffy copy another characters fruit/abilities who Luffy beat without even using his own abilities.

                                                        So you want luffy to keep the same attacks and not learn new ones.

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                                                          So you want luffy to keep the same attacks and not learn new ones.

                                                          He can still learn atacks by the basic formula of copying them from things he finds amuzing…

                                                          Perhaps Luffy's teeth will be the next thing used in an atack. Something like a triple chomp or a chomp gatling could be easily explained by Luffy getting inspiration from Cerberus. And yeah, Luffy bit trough metal, so imagine what his teeths could do to someone like Moria or his shadow...

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                                                            He can still learn atacks by the basic formula of copying them from things he finds amuzing…

                                                            Perhaps Luffy's teeth will be the next thing used in an atack. Something like a triple chomp or a chomp gatling could be easily explained by Luffy getting inspiration from Cerberus. And yeah, Luffy bit trough metal, so imagine what his teeths could do to someone like Moria or his shadow...

                                                            If he had to copy a teeth attack wouldn't it come from Arlong? Cerebus had absolutely no point in this story.

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                                                              If he had to copy a teeth attack wouldn't it come from Arlong? Cerebus had absolutely no point in this story.

                                                              I think he was kidding. :blink:

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                                                                Guys, first of all, Enel was Bilkan, not Skypeian. Instead of saying that Mantra is exclusive to Skypeians, let's say it's exclusive to the Moon Tribe (meaning Bilkans, Skypeians, Jayans), but only to those with a strong will. And Genetics aren't perfect. There's a thing called Transposons you should wiki. In any case, it's silly to put Genetics into a manga, especially a shonen one. It's Oda's story, so he decides who has Mantra and who doesn't.

                                                                Luffy isn't Bilkan, Jayan, or Skypeian. We've seen him with his shirt off and he's got no wings on his back, so…

                                                                On another note, Gatchan can use Mantra.

                                                                I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.

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                                                                  I think he was kidding. :blink:

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                                                                    It's Oda's story, so he decides who has Mantra and who doesn't.

                                                                    Luffy isn't Bilkan, Jayan, or Skypeian. We've seen him with his shirt off and he's got no wings on his back, so…

                                                                    On another note, Gatchan can use Mantra.

                                                                    1. True

                                                                    2. What about that guy on mecha island in enels cover story? Is it possible he might be related to the moon tribes but just lost his wings?

                                                                    3. Who is Gatchan again?

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                                                                      Guys, first of all, Enel was Bilkan, not Skypeian. Instead of saying that Mantra is exclusive to Skypeians, let's say it's exclusive to the Moon Tribe (meaning Bilkans, Skypeians, Jayans), but only to those with a strong will. And Genetics aren't perfect. There's a thing called Transposons you should wiki. In any case, it's silly to put Genetics into a manga, especially a shonen one. It's Oda's story, so he decides who has Mantra and who doesn't.

                                                                      Luffy isn't Bilkan, Jayan, or Skypeian. We've seen him with his shirt off and he's got no wings on his back, so…

                                                                      On another note, Gatchan can use Mantra.

                                                                      off topic What the hell is a Bilkan????? i didn't know that the third tribe was named =P

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                                                                        off topic What the hell is a Bilkan????? i didn't know that the third tribe was named =P

                                                                        I think that WAS Eneru's tribe. You know, they were there untill they got zapped to death…..

                                                                        Anyways, my point was that we could not really guess what Luffy is going to copy next...

                                                                        I mean, he copied the Flat Inflating fishes of Skypeia when he did Tako, and there's also the thing of Genzo's hat when he did Windmill....

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