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    Why do you like/dislike any strawhat?

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      Denimjo @Knight in Panther's Skin
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      @Knight:

      Did you even bother to pay attention?

      Yup. The fact that I still don't like the way he acted doesn't reflect in any way on how you view it, after all.

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      What he was saying made perfect sense, and in the end that was what had to happen. Usopp left the crew, and he shouldn't just be able to come back and act like nothing happened, like he did nothing, because what he did was horrible. Zoro understood this, and unfortunately you apparently didn't.

      Hmmm, until you got to the insulting me part, that was actually pretty convincing. However, I never said that I disagreed with "what had to happen"; I said I hated the way he acted about it. Try reading a little more closely next time.

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      There's also the fact that Usopp commited fucking mutiny. For all they knew, he could do it again.

      So did Nami when she stole the ship, or do you not remember that? The similarities are that there were mitigating reasons for each mutinous act: Nami's attempt to save her fellow villagers and Usopp's obvious (and well-known) love for the Merry (which Luffy knew about but chose to ignore when telling Usopp about their changing ships). For all we know, she could do it again if she got the "right motivation." Was she ever made to beg, grovel and otherwise sob out apologies for stealing the ship and all but condemning the crew to hardship and/or death if they were unable to obtain another ship? If she was, I must have missed that part. I saw where she thanked Luffy for helping her, but not the part where she apologised.

      Because God knows that no one has ever, ever done or said anything in the heat of anger and/or grief that they sorely regretted. Ever. Not once in the history of manga or real life. Never. Nope. No sirree, never happened. I'm not condoning Usopp's actions, merely mentioning that Zoro's lack of any care whatsoever for what happened to someone who was supposedly his friend/nakama/shipmate, etc. really rubbed me the wrong way. You're free to disagree, however. Bear in mind that I don't think that Sanji is much better in that regard either.

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      Well, Ace breathes heavily and calls him 'Gramps'. :P

      oh god that sounds wrong please nobody take that out of context

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        Why all the hate on Nami? =[ If it weren't for her the Strawhats would be dead by now.

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          I personally don't discount her value to the crew; I just dislike her personality, that's all. And I'm pretty sure every Straw Hat crew member has saved all their lives at some point.

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          Originally Posted by Kaze no Barako

          Well, Ace breathes heavily and calls him 'Gramps'. :P

          oh god that sounds wrong please nobody take that out of context

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            @Denimjo:

            YHmmm, until you got to the insulting me part, that was actually pretty convincing. However, I never said that I disagreed with "what had to happen"; I said I hated the way he acted about it. Try reading a little more closely next time.

            How exactly did he 'act about it'? He didn't do anything that was unnecessary or uncaring. He just treated Usopp like he was; a man who abandoned his crew because what they were doing didn't suit him at the moment. Usopp couldn't just do what he normally does and joke around, because it wasn't a matter which you can joke about. He needed to know that what he did was wrong, and need to apologize to his crew for it.

            Besides, everyone agreed to what Zoro said, so you must hate the entire crew.

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              @Knight:

              How exactly did he 'act about it'? He didn't do anything that was unnecessary or uncaring. He just treated Usopp like he was; a man who abandoned his crew because what they were doing didn't suit him at the moment. Usopp couldn't just do what he normally does and joke around, because it wasn't a matter which you can joke about. He needed to know that what he did was wrong, and need to apologize to his crew for it.

              Are you purposely missing my point or are you honestly not getting the distinction here? Usopp was not "a man who abandoned his crew because what they were doing didn't suit him at the moment,"; he was someone who had just suffered a humiliating loss (being beaten half to death by the Franky Family and having to be rescued by the others) and then immediately afterwards was told with no preamble or easing into it that the ship that he had an intense emotional connection to (that Luffy was fully aware of) was just going to be left behind and "Hey Usopp, here's a catalogue of some newer, better ships you'll like even better!"* I think you're the one that's not paying attention if you cannot see that Usopp's outburst wasn't just some "whim" that he came up with on the spur of the moment.

              My whole point was that Zoro was acting exactly like you are: thinking that Usopp just up and decided one day to fight with Luffy over a trivial and meaningless issue, completely disregarding his emotional state at the time the whole incident occurred. Instead, Zoro decided that Usopp had to be humiliated and humbled publicly or be left behind on an island where he'd most certainly be arrested by the Marines and executed, which I find rather repellent. Quite frankly, I don't really care if you agree with me or not. That's the reason I don't much care for him and that's that.

              Besides, everyone agreed to what Zoro said, so you must hate the entire crew.

              Please stop trying to put words into my mouth; as humorously ironic as it is, straw man arguments aren't going to help your 'case' any. Are you honestly telling me you can't see the difference between someone coldly demanding that a "friend" be left behind to die on an island because of an outburst due to extreme emotional stress and other people tacitly agreeing to it? The only one who needed to agree with Zoro was Luffy (since he's the captain and all), but it was made rather obvious that leaving Usopp behind would have hurt him, whereas with Zoro I didn't get the feeling that he cared at all. Big difference there. But I think I'm done with this now. I've explained my position and there's no need to elaborate any further.

              *Not a direct quote.

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              Originally Posted by Kaze no Barako

              Well, Ace breathes heavily and calls him 'Gramps'. :P

              oh god that sounds wrong please nobody take that out of context

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                @Denimjo:

                Are you purposely missing my point or are you honestly not getting the distinction here? Usopp was not "a man who abandoned his crew because what they were doing didn't suit him at the moment,"; he was someone who had just suffered a humiliating loss (being beaten half to death by the Franky Family and having to be rescued by the others) and then immediately afterwards was told with no preamble or easing into it that the ship that he had an intense emotional connection to (that Luffy was fully aware of) was just going to be left behind and "Hey Usopp, here's a catalogue of some newer, better ships you'll like even better!"* I think you're the one that's not paying attention if you cannot see that Usopp's outburst wasn't just some "whim" that he came up with on the spur of the moment.

                What the hell? The fact that they were getting rid of Marry didn't suit him, so he went into a hissy fit and left the crew. In other words, he's exactly like I described him. Of course, this is besides the fact that he also challenged his captain to a duel and caused him considerable physical harm (or attempted to).

                My whole point was that Zoro was acting exactly like you are: thinking that Usopp just up and decided one day to fight with Luffy over a trivial and meaningless issue, completely disregarding his emotional state at the time the whole incident occurred. Instead, Zoro decided that Usopp had to be humiliated and humbled publicly or be left behind on an island where he'd most certainly be arrested by the Marines and executed, which I find rather repellent. Quite frankly, I don't really care if you agree with me or not. That's the reason I don't much care for him and that's that.

                You act as if Usopp did nothing wrong, and Zoro is some kind of devil for wanting somebody to be sorry for comitting something like fucking MUTINY. Zoro, and the rest of the crew, wanted Usopp to realize what he'd done and be sincerly sorry about it, which is what any rational person would think.

                It's like Blackbeard and the Whitebeard pirates. If Blackbeard came up to them and said 'Oh yeah, I feel like joining the crew again', would they just say 'Sure thing buddy' and go on as usual? Would you talk about how terrible the WB Pirates are because they are trying to get revenge for the death of their comrade?

                Also, the Marines don't know Usopp exists, and never saw him with the crew. So yeah, Usopp is just another citizen to them.

                Please stop trying to put words into my mouth; as humorously ironic as it is, straw man arguments aren't going to help your 'cases' any.

                I'm not putting words into your mouth. You say this bullshit well enough yourself.

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                  @Denimjo:

                  Please stop trying to put words into my mouth; as humorously ironic as it is, straw man arguments aren't going to help your 'case' any. Are you honestly telling me you can't see the difference between someone coldly demanding that a "friend" be left behind to die on an island because of an outburst due to extreme emotional stress and other people tacitly agreeing to it? The only one who needed to agree with Zoro was Luffy (since he's the captain and all), but it was made rather obvious that leaving Usopp behind would have hurt him, whereas with Zoro I didn't get the feeling that he cared at all. Big difference there. But I think I'm done with this now. I've explained my position and there's no need to elaborate any further.

                  I realize this wasn't directed at me, but I feel like saing this.

                  I don't think you understand what it means to be on a crew. They're not just one big family that can have big fights and then get back together. Being on a crew is serious buisness, and if you can't trust someone else, you won't be able to work with them. Zoro was being the realist. Instead of crying and saying "OMG WE WANT USOPP BACK" like everyone else was, he just cut the bullshit and told the cold truth. You can't have doubts when you put your life in other people's hands on a daily basis, and Zoro knew this. Usopp attacked the captain because of a decision he didn't like, who's to say he wouldn't do it again?

                  I believe I forgot something… All well, I'll edit this post later when I remember it.

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                    @Denimjo:

                    Are you purposely missing my point or are you honestly not getting the distinction here? Usopp was not "a man who abandoned his crew because what they were doing didn't suit him at the moment,"; he was someone who had just suffered a humiliating loss (being beaten half to death by the Franky Family and having to be rescued by the others) and then immediately afterwards was told with no preamble or easing into it that the ship that he had an intense emotional connection to (that Luffy was fully aware of) was just going to be left behind and "Hey Usopp, here's a catalogue of some newer, better ships you'll like even better!"* I think you're the one that's not paying attention if you cannot see that Usopp's outburst wasn't just some "whim" that he came up with on the spur of the moment.

                    My whole point was that Zoro was acting exactly like you are: thinking that Usopp just up and decided one day to fight with Luffy over a trivial and meaningless issue, completely disregarding his emotional state at the time the whole incident occurred. Instead, Zoro decided that Usopp had to be humiliated and humbled publicly or be left behind on an island where he'd most certainly be arrested by the Marines and executed, which I find rather repellent. Quite frankly, I don't really care if you agree with me or not. That's the reason I don't much care for him and that's that.

                    Please stop trying to put words into my mouth; as humorously ironic as it is, straw man arguments aren't going to help your 'case' any. Are you honestly telling me you can't see the difference between someone coldly demanding that a "friend" be left behind to die on an island because of an outburst due to extreme emotional stress and other people tacitly agreeing to it? The only one who needed to agree with Zoro was Luffy (since he's the captain and all), but it was made rather obvious that leaving Usopp behind would have hurt him, whereas with Zoro I didn't get the feeling that he cared at all. Big difference there. But I think I'm done with this now. I've explained my position and there's no need to elaborate any further.

                    I have to say my part here as well…...

                    First of all, Luffy just droppijng the bomb on Ussop all upbeat and happy, was trying to soften the blow, sugar-coat it like he does everything. That's how he is, it keeps the morale of the crew probably higher than any other crew ever.
                    Ussop WAS throwing a bit of a hissyfit. He came back from an extremely tense emotional situation so he did not realize how selfish he was acting. He felt that he was the only one who would miss Merry, which is simply not true. He couldn't see that Luffy loved Merry just as much as he did, and the rest of the crew almost the same ammount as well (especially judging by everyone's reactions the the Mini-Merry) Ussop was to busy thinking that Merry was loved most by him because it came from his (not-even) "girlfriend", failing to see the emotions that everyone else felt towards it because he was blinded by his defeat, his love, and his somewhat mediocre level of arrogance (just a tad bit), as well as his somewhat stubborn personality.

                    Some people say that the every heartbeat us the sound of god, kicking an angel, in the face.

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                      There's no point trying to change the guy's opinion, even if it does make him look like he hadn't understood a thing about the situation.

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                        First of all, I'm not a guy, thank you very much. Second of all, there's no point in refuting Knight in Panther's Skin's post because (s)he is just refusing to listen to me at all. I also never said I agreed with what he (Usopp) did or disagreed with "what had to be done." Has everyone missed that part? I said that I didn't like the way Zoro acted about it, that's all. He may have been right, but I didn't like the way he went about it. Do you get this? That is my opinion, and no one else is required to agree with me, just like I'm not required to agree with anyone else over any other issue.

                        I also said that it's fine if other people feel differently, which is not the sentiment I'm getting from others here. Why people on here feel the need to try to browbeat someone to try to force them into thinking the same way they do is beyond me. Chill out, for heaven's sake.

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                        Originally Posted by Kaze no Barako

                        Well, Ace breathes heavily and calls him 'Gramps'. :P

                        oh god that sounds wrong please nobody take that out of context

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                          Lol he said Ussop gets character development

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                            About the Usopp/Zoro thing; It's a controversial issue and being able to see the situation from the two very different points of view is what makes the story so engaging. 😄 Usopp acted irrationally because he was so upset, and Zoro wanted him to realise that what he had said/done could not just be ignored. It was resolved by the SH crew anyway so there's not much point arguing about it now…

                            Moving on;

                            Luffy = love, to put it simply. Fave character. SO DAMN CUTE. Strange but awesome combination of adorable and badass. I'm going to stop talking now. ^^;;

                            Zoro: I like his fight scenes, and that whole deeper-thinking thing he does when he's figuring out the attacks, like in the Alabasta ark for example. Also his like overly-serious personality is hilarious, and the sleeping thing. So yeah! Overall I like him.

                            Nami: She's kind of just there at the moment… Sometimes I think she's funny, sometimes I'm just kinda like eh, don't really care. I think she's a skank though. xD I miss the days when she used to have a point, instead of just like, boobs on a stick. What happened to her dream??

                            Usopp: It took me a while to warm up to Usopp, til like Skypiea I think. Not really a fan of the always-scared personality, but I like the little sarcastic comments he makes sometimes, and his creativity makes him interesting. He can get annoying.

                            Sanji: Hehe, Sanji. I like his fighting style though the flaming-leg bit didn't really seem that useful or practical to me… xD And the suave personality is good, plus the mellorine bits. So yes, thumbs up.

                            Chopper: He's cute, and he tries to get stronger. ^^ Also his past was probably the one out of all of the SHs that I found the most interesting and heartbreaking. 😞

                            Robin: I love Robin's intelligence, the whole Ponyglyph search adds another whole dimension to the adventure. When I found out that there was that deeper overall plot - around Alabasta - was when I really started getting into OP. I wish she would do something else though! She's supposed to be so dangerous, but these days she's always just backup. She deserves a decent fight.

                            Franky: Eh, it's too soon to really say. He seems okay though.

                            SO BASICALLY, sometimes don't like Nami and Usopp, like everyone else. I don't think you can take the personality negatives too seriously btw. xD

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                              Luffy: He eats a lot, fast, how can you not like him? And he's so pathetic as a captain, the one time you could really respect him was when he got all pissed at Ussop in Water Seven.

                              Zorro: His general seriousness makes the times he freaks out so amazing… Plus as several people have stated he fights with his mouth, that is brilliant.

                              Nami: Funny character, but I don't like how Oda has changed her face recently, great fanservice though

                              Usopp: He beat the negative ghosts, how cool is that, plus he is friends with the coolest character of the manga, Sogeking, hopfully there will be a flashback soon showing how they met

                              Sanji: He feeds the starving, and being a Uni student I just love him for that. His fighting style is great because while Zorro enhances his capabilities with a third sword, Sanji limits himself to his legs. He's ranked lower than Zorro strength wise, but if he used his arms to throw stuff like knives, while kicking, he would probably be more powerful thn Zorro in the end.

                              Chopper: Really funny character, but fighting-wise he is so crap, Oda had to give him the Rumble Ball and the Monster ability just to make things interesting

                              Robin: Love the bust-size. She's got a tragic past, nice character, and she is so blunt she gave three of the SH's those brilliant expresions of shock in one sentence. (the I'm embarassed, line)

                              Franky: Still haven't grown to like too much yet, it just feels like he has been forced into the crew by Oda, hopefully Oda won't invent sudden amazing abilities he built into his body but hasn't used yet, deus ex machina wise, like somebody else said

                              Brooke: yes im counting him, he is about to do a combo attack with other SH's which is irrefutable evidence of his joining. He is brilliant: an afroed, perverted English gentleman skeleton. Just hope he will have a great fighting style, cause simply fast swordsmanship would be boring

                              ! disappointed?

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                                I like the Strawhats… a lot. Except Zoro.
                                I mean, he is ok and all... but... y'know? Sometimes I look at him and I think his only reason to exist is to look cool.
                                That could be enough in other manga, but not in One Piece... specially not in the Strawhats.

                                Of course, once in a time he gets a humour scene. I like those... but mainly he is just blah.

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                                  @Vash:

                                  Luffy: He eats a lot, fast, how can you not like him? And he's so pathetic as a captain, the one time you could really respect him was when he got all pissed at Ussop in Water Seven.

                                  Zorro: His general seriousness makes the times he freaks out so amazing… Plus as several people have stated he fights with his mouth, that is brilliant.

                                  Nami: Funny character, but I don't like how Oda has changed her face recently, great fanservice though

                                  Usopp: He beat the negative ghosts, how cool is that, plus he is friends with the coolest character of the manga, Sogeking, hopfully there will be a flashback soon showing how they met

                                  Sanji: He feeds the starving, and being a Uni student I just love him for that. His fighting style is great because while Zorro enhances his capabilities with a third sword, Sanji limits himself to his legs. He's ranked lower than Zorro strength wise, but if he used his arms to throw stuff like knives, while kicking, he would probably be more powerful thn Zorro in the end.

                                  Chopper: Really funny character, but fighting-wise he is so crap, Oda had to give him the Rumble Ball and the Monster ability just to make things interesting

                                  Robin: Love the bust-size. She's got a tragic past, nice character, and she is so blunt she gave three of the SH's those brilliant expresions of shock in one sentence. (the I'm embarassed, line)

                                  Franky: Still haven't grown to like too much yet, it just feels like he has been forced into the crew by Oda, hopefully Oda won't invent sudden amazing abilities he built into his body but hasn't used yet, deus ex machina wise, like somebody else said

                                  Brooke: yes im counting him, he is about to do a combo attack with other SH's which is irrefutable evidence of his joining. He is brilliant: an afroed, perverted English gentleman skeleton. Just hope he will have a great fighting style, cause simply fast swordsmanship would be boring

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                                  Erm, you do know Usopp is Sogeking, right?

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                                    @kingoffans:

                                    Erm, you do know Usopp is Sogeking, right?

                                    It's a joke. You do know what a joke is, right?

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                                      Knight in Panther: may i suggest you utilize the smilies a bit more as jokes like that (and sarcasm) is very hard to spot in written text?

                                      =P

                                      (youd need a ton of smilies for that joke in particular =P)

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                                      What the…? Holy smurf am I slow! Until this statement of yours I never even realized that an octopus is actually serving octopusballs. Talk about not seeing the forest because of too many trees. facepalm

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                                        I am kinda with Denimjo about the whole Zoro/Usopp thing. Fair enough point about having to make Usopp apologize to the rest of the crew. But I too like didn't like how Zoro went about it.

                                        Also I am finding Zoro to be of a hypocrite in ep 324 and jackass to be honest, he gets all upset Usopp's mutineering but he doesn't bat an eyelid about Nami's and Robin's action.

                                        Both the women did far worse, than what Usopp - they actually betrayed the crew but I don't seeZoro telling the women or the other crewmembers that Nami and Robin must apologize for actions too. Unbelievable.

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                                          I've always liked all the Strawhats.

                                          The only thing I don't like is how Oda has turned Nami into nothing but fanservice.

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                                            @Gorlom:

                                            Knight in Panther: may i suggest you utilize the smilies a bit more as jokes like that (and sarcasm) is very hard to spot in written text?

                                            KIPS wasn''t the one who posted that joke.

                                            Some people say that the every heartbeat us the sound of god, kicking an angel, in the face.

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                                              ah yeah. my mistake. =P

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                                              Originally Posted by Ivotas

                                              What the…? Holy smurf am I slow! Until this statement of yours I never even realized that an octopus is actually serving octopusballs. Talk about not seeing the forest because of too many trees. facepalm

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                                                Usopp IS Sogeking? who'd have thought he would have lied about that…

                                                and I don't use smilies becasue I don't like smilies

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                                                  Luffy: Generally speaking, I like the guy. He's a lot more likable than many other main characters from shonen mangas, and the way he gets creative with his body(I made that sound like many levels of wrong right there…), keeps me wondering what he's going to do next.

                                                  Zoro: Whilst I don't hate Zoro, I find he fits into the slightly meh grey area with me. His fight against Ryumma, was probably the highlight of his character thus far for me, as it was short and to the point, unlike most of Zoro's battles(Kaku, Ohm and Mr. 1 were all somewhat drawn out to the point where I stopped caring) Zoro also hasn't lost a fight in ages, and makes it somewhat dull for me to guess who will win in his fights. I just don't feel as much pressure is on in his fights as say a Luffy, Nami, Usopp or Chopper fight.

                                                  Nami: Hmmm...she's one of those characters that I change my opinion on each week. Sometimes I can't believe her selfish nature and the way she screws over the rest of the crew for personal gain and some weeks I'm amazed by her strong will, and sudden transformation into doing anything to save the others. And then there's the arcs where she just seems kinda unfullfilled and acting as fanservice. Thriller Bark=not Nami's best moments thus far. But hey, this arc keeps surprising me...maybe Nami will do something of worth yet.

                                                  Usopp: Probably my favourite. During his introduction, I didn't like him much, but half way through the Kuro arc I knew I could relate. This is a regular guy, who gets scared easily by the over powered monsters that exist in his world, yet still stands up to them for his friends sake.
                                                  Usopp's battles are also a personal favourite of mine since he's either going to win with his superior creativity and intelligence or get flattened by his far stronger opponent.
                                                  And who didn't love it when he terrified poor Perona with the Coachroach star and the 10 ton hammer?

                                                  Sanji: When he was first introduced I didn't care much. He was just a pretty boy version of Zoro to me with a slightly perverted twist. I only really started appreciating him when I saw him animated. Wow. Just wow. Sanji's actually a pretty good friend to have too, as despite what he says he will protect weaker male crew mates(Usopp and Chopper) as well as the women. Lately though Sanji's battles have been awfully one sided. Felt no pressure for him when he faced Jyaradbura, Jerry, Wanze or Absalom. Getting his butt handed to him by Kalifa because she was a woman made me embarrased too. Still cool though.

                                                  Chopper: Thriller Bark's really got me interested in Chopper. In particular the praisal of Hogback, only to find out later that his idol was evil, and despite having his world shattered still intended to destroy Hogback for the sake of his Nakama and Cindry. His fight against Kumadori was pretty good too, although I wasn't overly excited about the Monster Point, like many others were...

                                                  Robin: Personally, I'm just glad she's started getting involved more. Being mysterious wasn't enough for me, but I was touched by her backstory. Robin and Franky's moment against Taleran was pretty humourous.

                                                  Franky: Definately a top three favourite alongside Usopp and either Chopper/Luffy or Sanji. Franky's bizarre personality and unique looks first got me interested in his character, and when he had his talk with Usopp, it was great to see he wasn't totally bad. The Docking, crazy fast bridge building and combination attacks he's been in recently has made me feel like Franky's actually a crew member now. Plus it's always great to see another "not so serious" crew member.

                                                  So far I'm loving Brooke's personality too, a fine mix of silliness with seriousness. Plus any character with an afro is awesome.

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                                                    1. Usopp: The best Straw Hat in my opinion. His fights are always entertaining and he makes OP great.

                                                    2. Sanji: I love his attitude. Coolest smoker in manga besides Saito Hajime. Also his interactions with Nami are hilarious. "Nami comes first, Nami comes second, Nami comes third, Nami comes fourth, and Nami comes fifth!"

                                                    3. Zoro: Although I get a Sano vibe from him, mainly due to his lack of direction and lazy habits he's still cool.

                                                    4. Nami: Her greedy side makes me laugh along with her interactions with Sanji and Usopp.

                                                    5. Chopper: He's funny and cute. Also I love how he buys Usopp's stories.

                                                    From what I've seen Franky is also awesome but I'll withhold judgement until I get the Viz versions or cave in and read those scans. Same with Robin.

                                                    Now on to my least favorite Straw Hat: Luffy. The main reason I don't like him: He's too much like Kid Goku. But his attacks are cool. When I first heard of One Piece and heard of Luffy's power I thought "Great another Mr. Fantastic ripoff" but Oda proved me wrong.

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                                                      I like all of the Strawhats. :3

                                                      I can't stand people who hate Usopp, however, and it's not because I'm a SUPER CRAZED FANGIRL!!!1111… I just think their reasons for disliking him are mostly directly linked to their lack of confidence in the size of their penises. 😐

                                                      Luffy: I like him because... well, he's Luffy! xD Yes, he is a shonen hero, and I HATE shonen heroes for the most part, but god, something about him makes him so loveable. <333 He's my second favorite character, I think.

                                                      Nami: I like Nami, she isn't my favorite, but she helps keep the balance of the Strawhats and adds to comedy scenes~ plus, there is a definite need for a good voice of reason xP

                                                      Zoro: He has his moments of badassery, and his tendencies to get lost and sleep through everything are really funny. xD And god, the fights between him and Sanji are freaking awesome ❤

                                                      Usopp: Though he's not strong in the same sense as the other Strawhats, that's a lot of what makes him who he is. You can always relate to Usopp, and plus, he's pretty damn funny XD; I think he's simultaneously the silliest and most serious character, which is quite a feat to pull off. He's my favorite character.

                                                      Sanji: Waaaay too freaking cool. Though the recent perverted gags with him have been a bit over the top, and I'd like to see him have an opponent he can actually fight, Sanji just is way too cool. I like his kishido, too, except when it makes him lose to girls 😛 It just isn't cool, I'm sorry, but it isn't.

                                                      Chopper: Chopper is CUTE <33 And his friendship with Usopp is ADORABLE~

                                                      Robin: Intelligent and strong despite a terrible past. I like Robin a lot, she's probably the strongest, most respectable female character in the whole series. Her backstory made me cry... and the fact that she's lived on despite that is really something. She's also freaking gorgeous, so I understand why she has fanboys.

                                                      Franky: WHAT THE FUCK XD Franky is so freaking random, ahahaha~ All his gimmicky skills in battle are funny as hell to watch, and I love how he gets all emotional and cries at pretty much anything~ XD Somehow he's made unshaven legs and speedo-wearing NOT scarring and mortifying, which is very impressive!

                                                      So yes, I love all the Strawhats ❤ I always hate SOME main character in about every story, but not One Piece~ Oda's made some pretty likable characters, IMO :3

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                                                        Brook:Becuase he's skeleton with a afro and he's awesome
                                                        Franky:Because he's a cyborg and is awesome
                                                        Chopper:Because he's cute and powerful
                                                        Nami:She's cute,funny,and sexy
                                                        Vivi:She's cute and sexy
                                                        Usopp:He's very funny
                                                        Luffy:He's a great hero and funny
                                                        Zoro:He has green hair and 3 swords
                                                        Robin:I like her powers,Her hats,and i like Little Robin
                                                        I have a few dislikes
                                                        Robin:She's not funny(Sometimes in the fillers) and Too serious
                                                        Zoro:Overrated

                                                        Kamen Rider OOOs

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                                                          Robin:I like her powers,Her hats,and i like Little Robin
                                                          I have a few dislikes
                                                          Robin:She's not funny(Sometimes in the fillers) and Too serious

                                                          I actually liked Little Robin more then older Robin. Little Robin's voice was pretty cool as well.

                                                          Lil' Robin = Garra
                                                          Lil' Lucci = Itachi

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                                                            Luffy-
                                                            pros: He's hilarious much of the time, and a badass sometimes
                                                            cons:He's like a stretchy Goku. Actually, most shonen characters are like him.
                                                            I wouldn't like Luffy as much as I do if Oda wasn't the author. He made Luffy stupid beyond expectations and then keeps breaking the new expectations. He also moves the story well with him.

                                                            Zoro-
                                                            pros: He's badass, with some adorably stupid faults. Plus, he's the only character in all manga/anime to use three swords regularly.
                                                            cons: His badassness is cliche, and his stupidity has been seen before.
                                                            Again, Oda makes Zoro awesome. Zoro's funny parts are random and unpredictable, although Oda seldom breaks down walls of humour with him.

                                                            Sanji-
                                                            pros: He's yet another badass, and again with a stupid fault.
                                                            cons: It's an alternative Zoro, this time he's perverted and artistic.
                                                            Sanji doesn't appeal to me as much, but he and Zoro do form a rivalry needed in the crew. Plus, he's the regular pervert needed in the story. His chivalry is like gravy to meat, it gives him a unique parts in story and humour not accessible by other characters.

                                                            Chopper-
                                                            pros: He's a transformer. His innocence makes him adorable. He's a reindeer.
                                                            cons: His cuteness is common, and there's not that much character underneath his cuteness. Transformers are not uncommon either.
                                                            Oda basically pours all that is blatantly cute in his imagination into Chopper. Admittedly, that's what I like, even though sometimes he's cute to the point of sickening. His transformations are kind of generic, though.

                                                            Robin-
                                                            pros: Sexy with sexy powers. Touching background.
                                                            cons: not much fun to be made from her.
                                                            Hormones aside, Robin provides a controlled balance to the wackiness of the crew. She's available to deal with situations with intellect and reserved judgment. However, it's rather difficult for her to move the story along other than provide plot twists. Humour is also difficult with her, but Oda is getting better with her by making her subtly cute.

                                                            Ussop-
                                                            pros: looks funny, is funny generally.
                                                            cons: not aesthetically pleasing, ever.
                                                            He's a great scapegoat to beat up on. He's scared of almost everything except bugs, so he's good humour. Character-wise, he's actually well developed along with Luffy.

                                                            Nami-
                                                            pros: funny with money. Sexy.
                                                            cons: cliche character. She's like almost all female companions of the shonen genre. She's not really good at battle. Story is kind of forced with her. She's rather predictable.
                                                            Nami is my least favorite of characters. I've seen her character almost everywhere. 99.99% of all female main characters are cute and sexy. She's only really funny interacting with other Strawhats and with money.

                                                            Franky-
                                                            pros: Unique concept. Hilarious and badass at the same time.
                                                            cons: Kind of insulting to the "American" image.
                                                            I think Oda made him "American" the same way HardGay is "gay". Franky is relatively new but he's got lots of potential in combat and in humour. He's the only cyborg that doesn't make sense. All other mechs seem to rely on the belief that robots work logically in physics and programming. Not Franky. He's wacky as wacky gets.

                                                            Brooke-
                                                            pros: He's a gentleman skeleton with a permanent afro who likes women's undergarments and plays a violin but is also rather random and a badass swordsman but a coward sometimes too.
                                                            cons: He's another swordsman.
                                                            Hehe, I had a gut feeling Oda's gonna make Brooke a Strawhat from his very first panel. There's virtually no downsides to this guy. It's a bit disappointing that he's a swordsman, but at the same time his sword techniques are rather different than Zoro's.

                                                            From Most Favorite to Least Favorite
                                                            1 Luffy
                                                            2 Brooke
                                                            3 Chopper
                                                            4 Ussop
                                                            5 Franky
                                                            6 Zoro
                                                            7 Sanji
                                                            8 Robin
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                                                              ^Brook isn't even a Strawhat yet!!

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                                                                ^Brook isn't even a Strawhat yet!!

                                                                Barring some kind of Self Sacrifice to save the Strawhats from Kuma, he's pretty much guaranteed as a Strawhat at this point.

                                                                Also, hating Robin because she's not a comedic person is just silly. When you were treated the way she was in your youth, it takes a while for you to warm up to people. That's just how some people are.

                                                                I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.

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                                                                  Also, hating Robin because she's not a comedic person is just silly.

                                                                  !? I never said that 😧

                                                                  When you were treated the way she was in your youth, it takes a while for you to warm up to people. That's just how some people are.

                                                                  Robin had Garra's child hood, and yet she didn't become the Kazekage.

                                                                  This proves that she is infact an underachiever

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                                                                    Hey, Lobster.

                                                                    Shut up.

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                                                                    And when this manga closes out, and Luffy's arm stretches back to deliver that last punch, I wanna feel the crunch of the dream coming true.

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                                                                        Hey, Lobster.

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                                                                        ! You've activated my trap card

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                                                                          Why am I not surprised that you own that picture?

                                                                          Originally Posted by Silence

                                                                          And when this manga closes out, and Luffy's arm stretches back to deliver that last punch, I wanna feel the crunch of the dream coming true.

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                                                                            I think I saw that once on /cm/, I never spoke of it again.

                                                                            Thanks a lot, Lobster.

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                                                                              Robin had Garra's child hood, and yet she didn't become the Kazekage.

                                                                              This proves that she is infact an underachiever

                                                                              Giving a 15 year old kid a position of absolute authority for a tribe of ANYTHING is absolutely retarded storytelling, so it hardly counts.

                                                                              I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.

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                                                                                Giving a 15 year old kid a position of absolute authority for a tribe of ANYTHING is absolutely retarded storytelling, so it hardly counts.

                                                                                Lmao, quoted for truth. xDDD

                                                                                I'm a lurker. I don't really post much. So… I'm not really sure what to put as my signature.

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                                                                                  Monkey D. Luffy Luffy as a character isn't that great at all. He's basically the most occured stock character for Japanese comics. Though there are some changes to that mold, like how Oda making Luffy to be an asshole. But all in all, I personally I like Luffy n all, he's just overrated.

                                                                                  Roronoa Zoro
                                                                                  Personality is one of the biggest clichés in the entire comic. But his fighting style as well as his fashion since make up for it. Also the more I hear Zoro speak with Logic the more I like him. Again, Zoro is overrated.

                                                                                  Nami The sex appeal of the comic. Well in the beggining she didn't have that, but that's all her character has become. Oh, and being the voice of reason. She's basically like every other main female in comics.

                                                                                  Usopp The liar, who is probably the shows best character, and the most underrated. He's got more to him than any other Straw Hat, and is the most well rounded.

                                                                                  Sanji Ah, the pervert stock character.

                                                                                  Tony Tony Chopper I don't know why but Chopper was my favorite character(in till Franky). His back story, and his own character might be a Christmas story, but still gives off some originality to him. Though now he's become the cute character who can turn into a trump card.

                                                                                  Nico Robin The matured beauty. She's basically another voice of reason. A more matured, Nami without the greed.

                                                                                  Franky The most original character yet. I love him.

                                                                                  Vivi Damsel in Distress

                                                                                  So if I had to order them It'd be;

                                                                                  1. Franky
                                                                                  2. Chopper
                                                                                  3. Usopp
                                                                                  4. Zoro
                                                                                  5/6/7. Robin/Luffy/Sanji
                                                                                  7. Nami
                                                                                  8. Vivi

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                                                                                    Franky
                                                                                    The most original character yet. I love him.

                                                                                    I'm sorry to correct you good sir, but I must point out….That title goeth to Brook.

                                                                                    Some people say that the every heartbeat us the sound of god, kicking an angel, in the face.

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                                                                                      1. Franky
                                                                                      2. Chopper
                                                                                      3. Usopp
                                                                                      4. Zoro
                                                                                      5/6/7. Robin/Luffy/Sanji
                                                                                      7. Nami
                                                                                      8. Vivi

                                                                                      Eh, I don't really think that Franky would be the "most original"… And Vivi doesn't fit the qualification of "damsel in distress" either, in that she was the one saving people half the time... You didn't rank Brook either, even though he may not join. And you forgot Carue as well.

                                                                                      Alright, I guess I willl rank them now


                                                                                      Monkey D. Luffy - Luffy is a pretty simple character, but in a good way. He is not your typical hero, and I feel he doesn't fall into the "shounen stereotype". Sure he does in some qualities, like the eating, etc… but his normal behaviors generally always "nonsensical and laid back", which is complemented by his devil fruit power.

                                                                                      Roranora Zoro - I love his fights, and his personality is hillarious. From getting lost to his rivalry with Sanji. Emotion wise he's the direct opposite of Sanji. He has them just like Sanji, he just chooses to hide them. Anyway, Zoro has been becoming a bit stale as of late. Hopefully this will change back. And of course, Santoryu is a nice original style of fighting.


                                                                                      Nami - She was really cool from the beginning, through the Arlong arch. But then, after Ussop made he the clima tact, she just seemed to become your generic pissed off anime girl. Her fights just became fanservice, and she lost some of her initial "fun" attitude. It's not really the fact that she stopped using her weapon like a bo staff or anything, it's just that every fight she has had lately just turns into some long draw out game. But she did seem to prove her self again in Water 7.

                                                                                      Ussop - He is amazing. It seems that he has trouble expressing his feelings sometimes though, and just snaps at people. (and no, not just in Water 7) If you pay attention in the series, he does seriously it to many of the crew at one point or another. His fighting strategies are great, and now he's even better with his Sogeking "split personality". He really shined in the Arabasta fight against Mr. 4 /Miss Merry Christmas, and against Perona at Thriller Bark. I'm not sure where Oda is going with his character, but he is definitely developing into something.

                                                                                      Sanji - I like Sanji a lot. It's too bad that I always end up rooting for his opponents, because he generally dominates them. Even though he hasn't show much character development, he's still a fun character that wears his emotion out on his sleeves and shows them proudly. His fighting is always nicely stylized too, which is interesting. And he has been shown to be able to improvise, while in tight situations (like when fighting Wanze) Oda also gave a "secret agent" feel to his character. (which is complimented by his theme song) And I do with that he would don the "Mr. Prince" thing again.

                                                                                      Nefertari Vivi - Vivi probably experienced the most character development out of any other Straw Hat. From her entry as an antagonist (Miss Wednesday), to nervously becoming a Straw Hat, to becoming a happily full fledged member, so becoming emo and depressed, to downright angry, etc… I also liked how she seemed to do so much during her arch, especially in comparison to the other Straw Hats archs. She took the lead, and actually saved the team countless times. Her arch also had one of the most difficult villains. Not just a Shichibukai, but a Logia one at that. Her weapons were also pretty cool. I suppose that Peacock String Slashers would be a combination between a rope dart and a chain whip, which makes for an interesting fighting style. She also had some funny character quirks, like bitting her lip whenever she became nervous.

                                                                                      Carue - He was awesome. I especially loved his chase sequence with Bon Kurei. Carue also made an awesome team with Ussop in Little Garden, and held his own against Mr. 5 He's probably the faster runner on the team as well. He even managed to "fly" for a short time.

                                                                                      Chopper - Chopper is a good character. I like his traits and how he actually acts like a child, shows fear, and worships Ussop. My favorite episode with him would probably be his filler with Nico Robin. A few things about him confuse me though. Like why he reverts to brain point as a "base form". Why doesn't he originally revert to his actual reindeer form. Anyway, fighting wise he is probably one of my least favorite. But still, he is a very useful, and amusing member to the team.

                                                                                      Nico Robin - Now Nico Robin is a good character. She had a interesting childhood as well. I don't really like her power though. It doesn't require much skill. No matter how strong the opponent she can just snap their bones to defeat them. It's like she has a constant mod, but is the weakest player when it's turned off. In Enis Lobby she was basically the "damsel in distress", and did the least amount in her arch, in comparison to the others. Infact, I didn't really like her much at all until Enis Lobby ended. Now she seems to have loosened up a bit more, and has proved to be a great addition, especially at Thriller Bark. One of my other problems with Robin is how over rated she is. I've seen time and time again One Piece fans saying that they "got into One Piece" because of Nico Robin. It seems that much of her fanbase consists of the male versions of Sasuke fan-girls.


                                                                                      Franky - Great guy. Nice and original. To be honest, I preferred him as a villain. But still, he's a great asset and even hs a catch phrase. His character has limitless possibilities, as he is a cyborg, along with him being on par with Luffy. A fine asset to the Straw Hat crew.

                                                                                      Brook - Good so far. Interesting and original. Also the only pervert besides Sanji, which may prove to be interesting later if he actually joins.

                                                                                      Alright… so I'll now list my favorites in order

                                                                                      **Male

                                                                                      -Ussop
                                                                                      -Sanji** (switches back and forth with Zoro from time to time) **-Zoro
                                                                                      -Carue
                                                                                      -Brook
                                                                                      -Luffy
                                                                                      -Chopper
                                                                                      -Franky

                                                                                      Female

                                                                                      -Vivi
                                                                                      -Robin
                                                                                      -Nami**

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                                                                                        I have to admit, Brooke is not as original as Franky in terms of character design.

                                                                                        A lot of pirate stories feature skeletons and ghosts; Brooke only brings two new things to the table in that respect: the afro, and the way he became undead.

                                                                                        Franky's a more original design, especially in the context (it's delightfully steampunk to have a cyborg on a pirate crew). However, I can't stand his personality. He sounds like he'd be loud and boorish and not recognize when a good time to shut your mouth is.

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                                                                                          Yeah….Franky is realllll original in being a Cyborg on a pirate crew*hides his Pirate Planet and 'The Girl Who never was' DVD

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                                                                                            Just noticed I actually didn't care anymore about crewmembers I used to hate, I'm just indifferent towards Zoro and Usopp now. The only one I wish would just die is Sanji. I swear his Thriller Bark antics were probably the worst thing I've read this year. And I've read Naruto.

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                                                                                              I'm kind of the same way. I like Usopp now a little more than I did during W7 and EL.

                                                                                              It's weird because Sanji and Zoro seem to be on a see-saw with me. It's like they can't be awesome in the same arc. For the most part I liked Sanji in EL (especially on the train), while Zoro was just there. And in this arc Zoro had a pretty good fight while Sanji was horrible.

                                                                                              Neither of them still fully click with me, though.

                                                                                              And as likeable as Brook is, he's not really that original.

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                                                                                                @Bounty1Berry:

                                                                                                I have to admit, Brooke is not as original as Franky in terms of character design.

                                                                                                A lot of pirate stories feature skeletons and ghosts; Brooke only brings two new things to the table in that respect: the afro, and the way he became undead.

                                                                                                Yeah, as much as I like him as a character designwise he really isn´t that unique overall. From the clothing style he resembles Sanji too much for my taste.

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                                                                                                Yeah….Franky is realllll original in being a Cyborg on a pirate crew*hides his Pirate Planet and 'The Girl Who never was' DVD

                                                                                                I think B1B was speaking about his Ace Ventura/Popeye wearing speedoes design rather then him being a cyborg.

                                                                                                On topic: While I don´t hate any of the protagonists Nami definitely strikes out as the person with the least appeal to me. Her backstory is great and caring for money doesn´t disturb me but what´s a bit of a bother to me that she tends to be the spoil sport of the crew from time to time. True, Usopp often tries to interfere with making new port each time they get to an island and Robin is indifferent most of the time but still in their ways they aren´t that much away from the general mood of the crew like Nami from time to time bitches around too much for my taste.

                                                                                                Not saying that she´s lacking faith in the crew, because when shits gets really serious she´s often the one that states how much hope she holds in her crew. It´s just that her antics aren´t really Strawhat-esque sometimes. She´s actually that to the Strawhat Crew what Zeether is to the Arlong Park Humor thread.

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                                                                                                  If you want me to add CArue and Brook? That'd go

                                                                                                  1. Franky
                                                                                                  2. Chopper
                                                                                                  3. Usopp
                                                                                                  4. Carue
                                                                                                  5/6. Brook/Zoro
                                                                                                  7/8/9. Robin/Luffy/Sanji
                                                                                                  10. Nami
                                                                                                  11. Vivi

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                                                                                                    @Local-chan:

                                                                                                    Yeah….Franky is realllll original in being a Cyborg on a pirate crew*hides his Pirate Planet and 'The Girl Who never was' DVD

                                                                                                    Well, I meant in terms of era.

                                                                                                    Overall, the One Piece world, excluding Skypeia of course is fairly 18th century in technology. There are a few excursions into the 19th century (the Sea Train) and early 20th century (the Den Den Mushi are analogous to radio and radio-telegraphy)

                                                                                                    Yes, there are loads of space pirate and air-pirate themes, but if you're sticking with the classic pirate era of sailing ships and medical attention limited to hook hands, then Franky's a remarkable stretch.

                                                                                                    Being able to pull off a workable cyborg inside that era constraint requires a lot of cleverness.

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                                                                                                      I love ALL the strawhats, but mai fav characters aar:

                                                                                                      Luffy
                                                                                                      Devilishly funny, remarkably powerful(with an original ability), and a generally astounding character, I hate it when people say he's stupid though. He's really just slow at first, but he has made some absolutely GENIUS battle plans, mainly when finding the enemy's weakness, and then finding a way to get past it.

                                                                                                      Chopper
                                                                                                      HES SO CUTE! I also like how he looks up to Ussop, and how he can be so modest at times, yet he still shows everyone up with his super-brain. Plus he has awesome fights. My favorites were his fights with Gedatsu, and Kumadori.

                                                                                                      Sanji
                                                                                                      Definitely the "Coolest" Strawhat. "God makes the food. the devil makes the spices. Guess it was to hot for you?" ~Sanji ;D Also, I love his rivalry with Zoro.

                                                                                                      Franky
                                                                                                      Probably because he's new, but also because he is the most original Strawhat since Chopper. I like how he has a techno/dance theme, and how he can go from peppy to emo in a blink of an eye. And his fight with Fukurou was one of my favorite EL fights hands down. Simply AMAZING, or should I say… S-U-P-A!!! >:] Sorry, I had to. ;_;

                                                                                                      Brook
                                                                                                      Ok, he isn't an official Strawhat yet, but come on, he's got to be! But I wont go into that here. I love his gentlemen theme, although I do not completely understand his fighting style… THATS GOOD! That means that when it gets animated, I'll be blowned awai. ;o He's hilarious too. I can really see some Afro/Skeleton puns. 😉

                                                                                                      Ussop and Zoro are next in line. 😉 I love the ladies of One piece too. I just don't find them as interesting as some of the guys. ;]

                                                                                                      My AMVs

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                                                                                                        @Silver:

                                                                                                        If you want me to add CArue and Brook? That'd go

                                                                                                        1. Franky
                                                                                                        2. Chopper
                                                                                                        3. Usopp
                                                                                                        4. Carue
                                                                                                        5/6. Brook/Zoro
                                                                                                        7/8/9. Robin/Luffy/Sanji
                                                                                                        10. Nami
                                                                                                        11. Vivi

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