i personally think he is alive. and that he is in enies lobby or some other marine island and is bait for luffy but i think shanks will beat luffy to him and take him back to whitebeard.
Ace Alive or not
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@no:
i personally think he is alive. and that he is in enies lobby or some other marine island and is bait for luffy but i think shanks will beat luffy to him and take him back to whitebeard.
FYI, Enies Lobby has been erased by the Buster Call. >_> Take that island off your list. And the most likely island in my opinion would be Mariejoa.
I'm not sure if this topic takes up space or not, I'll see what the mods decide
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@no:
i personally think he is alive. and that he is in enies lobby or some other marine island and is bait for luffy but i think shanks will beat luffy to him and take him back to whitebeard.
Sorry, but that sounds boring as fuck.
What would be accomplished other than Ace telling Whitebeard how scarwwwyyy Blackbeard is?
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I hope Poochie's dead. It'd be too anticlimactic if he was alive. I think after Bellamy was killed, Oda-sensei is accepting that to get the point across he is going to have to kill some characters. Not to mention Shichibukai should never leave survivors. If BB is one, then he can't let Ace live. I'd hope he sank the entire island with his final attack against Ace.
Also, it's a children's comic from Japan.
Why are you comparing it to cultural engravings and burritos.
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^But that would have killed his crew… and himself. Because he can't swim.
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Pretty sure BB has a ship. I doubt he flew to that island.
I rly hope Oda-sensei is better than Kishimoto. I mean, I hope has more guts as a mangaka and doesn't Gaara out on this.Also, it's a children's comic from Japan.
Why are you comparing it to cultural engravings and burritos.
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I think maybe Blackbeard doesn't WANT to kill Ace, If he did the world goverment might find out and think he may be involved with the Yonkou in some way.
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What the hell? Why would they think he's involved with the Yonkou? Ace probably has a large bounty so killing him would just get Blackbeard's name known, and a possible Shichibukai position.
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maybe Blackbeard has some kind of mind control power that comes with his fruit that will make Ace on his side or something….................aaawww forget it, that's stupid!
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Blackbeard left him for dead, but he somehow survived, and is licking his wounds somewhere. He'll make a surprise return later in the series. That's the theory I'm stickin' to.
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Blackbeard's not an idiot. I doubt he would leave Ace for dead. Ace is either dead or BB turned him in. This was his perfect opportunity to become known. Well, we probably won't know what happened for a couple of years or so.
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Ace is trapped in an evil void dimension BB made along with everything else he absorbed…
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Ace is trapped in an evil void dimension BB made along with everything else he absorbed…
That's just as likely as what maikeru22 said. -_-
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@Seal:
That's just as likely as what maikeru22 said. -_-
meikeru said some shit about mind control, which is nothing like what that he said.
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meikeru said some shit about mind control, which is nothing like what that he said.
My point is that it's not very likely to be the case.
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At least Ace being trapped in a blackhole makes more sense than fuckin' mind control.
It's still somewhat stupid, yes, but they're in different leagues of…...stupidity.
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@Really:
Blackbeard's not an idiot. I doubt he would leave Ace for dead. Ace is either dead or BB turned him in. This was his perfect opportunity to become known. Well, we probably won't know what happened for a couple of years or so.
He could take something with him as evidence of his death. His hat, maybe.
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i don't think blackbeard killed ace. even though blackbeard isn't with the whitebeard pirates anymore i don't think he would want to kill ace because they used to be nakama. i know blackbeard killed his other teammate but that was for his dream. plus i'm sure they ended up fighting to the death because otherwise that guy would of never let go of that devil fruit. if he was the kind of guy that would kill his nakama so easily then i don't think he would of been worrying about his new shipmates when they fought ace and made them back off. i do think blackbeard turned ace in to the marines and became a new shichibukai and because of that whitebeard will declare war on the marines and blackbeard and the war will go into chaos.
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@Ao:
I think after Bellamy was killed, Oda-sensei is accepting that to get the point across he is going to have to kill some characters.
There's no actual proof Bellamy is dead and won't be until somebody pops up and says "DoFlamingo killed Bellamy!" It's much, much more likely that he was horribly maimed than killed.
If BB is one, then he can't let Ace live. I'd hope he sank the entire island with his final attack against Ace.
Teach benefits far more by bringing Ace in alive than he does dead. Alive, he can confirm that Teach not only beat him, but also killed Satch. Dead, Teach can only produce the corpse and make the unsubstantiated claim that he killed Satch.
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Blackbeard is a living contradiction. If he really were a black hole, or each time he summoned one, his body should just collapse under his own attractive force. And there's no way he can conjure up so much mass that he can even create a black hole.
Anyway, as i wanted to say, if Blackbeard's power is the power of Gravity, of using a Black Hole, then yeah, Ace should be dead. But since this is Oda's manga, anything can happen and he may not be dead. Though I should like to think that he is. It would add a touch of reality to Oda's dream world.
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archtyrant: you forget that the darkness fruit is a logia. ace doesnt get burned by his own fire. aokiji doesnt get frost damage, enel isnt electrocuted etc etc…
or are you saying he should be dead if he had that power irl?
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I have to say that people pisses me off when they talk about Blackbeard like he is just a good guy, let me say something to you:
¡HE IS A MURDERER AND A PSYCOPATH!
Sorry for the caps but it seems that some virus of idiocy has come here in the forums in the last weeks and people are transforming bad people in One Piece in good people.
Do you have seen his reaction when Ace reminds him about Sacchi assasination? Blackbeard reaction is just "this wasn´t nothing important and now I will kill you Ace", in other words, he is the most evil character in One Piece.
He has the same moral than Crocodile or Enel, even Lucci has more moral than him (remember that Rob worked for the world government not under his own conditions) and people are saying that he is a good person and Ace is alive.
The only logical reason why Kuma needs to ask to the Mugiwaras if Ace is Luffy brother is because Ace was defeated by the "Darkness" and all the people knows the result when a person is crushed by gravity. In other words, they need a confirmation about Ace relationship to Luffy.
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I have to say that people pisses me off when they talk about Blackbeard like he is just a good guy, let me say something to you:
¡HE IS A MURDERER AND A PSYCOPATH!
Sorry for the caps but it seems that some virus of idiocy has come here in the forums in the last weeks and people are transforming bad people in One Piece in good people.
Do you have seen his reaction when Ace reminds him about Sacchi assasination? Blackbeard reaction is just "this wasn´t nothing important and now I will kill you Ace", in other words, he is the most evil character in One Piece.
He has the same moral than Crocodile or Enel, even Lucci has more moral than him (remember that Rob worked for the world government not under his own conditions) and people are saying that he is a good person and Ace is alive.
i dont rember BB saying he ever wanted to kill Ace.. i recall him trying to recruit him but ended up fighting him because Ace refused and wanted to revenge sacchi..
just because Rob works for the goverment doesnt mean he has morals. BB wants to become a shichibukai because of the advantages it holds. Lucci probably became a marine for the exact same reasons: to get a licence to kill.
from what i recall from Luccis backstory he didnt kill the pirates that was causeing trouble. he killed their hostages instead. (i may have gotten that wrong though… it doesnt make sense to me that he would be allowed to do that even if it means the marines could move in and apprehend the criminals)
BB seems to atleast show some care towards those he considers "nakama". (WBs crew isnt really considered friends as i understand it. he was merely hiding himself among them)I REALLY HOPE THAT LAST PART I DIDNT QUOTE IS NOT SOMETHING LEAKED FROM THE SPOILER THREAD!
What the…? Holy smurf am I slow! Until this statement of yours I never even realized that an octopus is actually serving octopusballs. Talk about not seeing the forest because of too many trees. facepalm
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Ace is dead. I can't see how he could be alive without making it lame.
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i hope he aint dead because ace is apart of the main people in one piece really there is a lot about him we dont know that i want to know lmao.
but about Bellamy if he is dead what happened to his DF did some one take it ? and whom !!!
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I hope that Ace willingly joins Blackbeard.
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^Ace in BB's crew would be awesome, but I doubt Ace would willinly join BBs.
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i dont rember BB saying he ever wanted to kill Ace.. i recall him trying to recruit him but ended up fighting him because Ace refused and wanted to revenge sacchi..
just because Rob works for the goverment doesnt mean he has morals. BB wants to become a shichibukai because of the advantages it holds. Lucci probably became a marine for the exact same reasons: to get a licence to kill.
from what i recall from Luccis backstory he didnt kill the pirates that was causeing trouble. he killed their hostages instead. (i may have gotten that wrong though… it doesnt make sense to me that he would be allowed to do that even if it means the marines could move in and apprehend the criminals)
BB seems to atleast show some care towards those he considers "nakama". (WBs crew isnt really considered friends as i understand it. he was merely hiding himself among them)I REALLY HOPE THAT LAST PART I DIDNT QUOTE IS NOT SOMETHING LEAKED FROM THE SPOILER THREAD!
It better not be!!! This is the first time I managed to make it a week without seeing the spoilers. If all that anguish was wasted after all that time, someone is gonna get hurt!!! Oh and this is One Piece. People like Ace don't die in One Piece. Period.
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@Lobster:
I hope that Ace willingly joins Blackbeard.
Yea, let's desecrate our backs so that when we're 90 we have a saggy bunch of paint on it, only to give up on our morals and beliefs so easily that we would join some guy that is stronger than us.
Ace would rather die than join BB.
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Yea, let's desecrate our backs so that when we're 90 we have a saggy bunch of paint on it, only to give up on our morals and beliefs so easily that we would join some guy that is stronger than us.
Ace would rather die than join BB.
:wassat: what the?
can anyone repeat what refii just said in a way that makes it comprehendable?
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Ace placed an obscenely large tattoo that is not overly aesthetically pleasing on his back, to represent his commitment and loyalty to Whitebeard. This obscenely large tattoo will sag and look nast as he enters his olden age, (as most old gentlemen in my gym with tattoos that no longer stretch as they did in their youths look).
He did all this to his back, to now give up his promises and join someone stronger like Blackbeard rather than fight to his own death? Based on his own brother who preferred defeat twice to Crocodile over simply running away, I highly doubt it.
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i did not get that it was a reference to Aces tatoo (just didnt make any connection between desecration and getting a tatoo). it didnt spring to mind that one could not change his mind after getting one of those.
thank you for repeating/elaborateing on that.
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@Ao:
Pretty sure BB has a ship. I doubt he flew to that island.
I rly hope Oda-sensei is better than Kishimoto. I mean, I hope has more guts as a mangaka and doesn't Gaara out on this.Oh come on, Garra turning around was a perfectly fine outcome…it showed how alike the 2 characters were.....the person who should've died dramatically was Rock Lee......XP
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To answer the question of this thread: not.
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Ace is hiding in the bushes
Or Blackbeard is holding him captive
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Ace isn't dead,
I mean if Pell survived…can't agree with you more.
It is on this hallowed evening that two brilliant men, experts in their fields, bring forth inquiries unseen in this world! Can the common man brace themselves for this?
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I think Ace was at least defeated, that the rumour is getting around now and Kuma is here to see if he can confirm some of the details. Ace dead,that I won't express my opinion on. At least point, I'm not sure if he is or isn't.
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to bring in my weird theory:
Ace and BB fusioned!
As both have logia-type devil fruits, both have an D in their name and both started their strongest attack on each other.
But Kuma will announce the truth in several chapters….
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Judging from Oda using flashback to show the fight between Ace and Blackbeard, the chances of Ace is not dead are relatively almost 0%.
Unless Oda have something up his sleeves…... I don't see how Ace can be alive.....
However, I still hope Ace is at least alive until Luffy reached him, only to die in Luffy's arm... or something like that....
Pro-Main Cast Evangelist. In Oda We Trust. TheJackAss Crew. AMC = Anti-main Cast. Luffy x Nami.
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Well.. I think he's either dead or held hostage by BB.
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Wasn't there already a thread about Ace.
Wait…. ah here it is :
http://apforums.net/showthread.php?t=11261Well the conclusion was –--> ACE IS DEAD.
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none in OP is dead untill stated dead. thats the whole point in showing just his hat.
he might be dead but there is no way to be sure untill it has been proved by the damn coroner.
What the…? Holy smurf am I slow! Until this statement of yours I never even realized that an octopus is actually serving octopusballs. Talk about not seeing the forest because of too many trees. facepalm
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The answer will most likely be revealed within the next couple weeks. With Bartholomew there for Moria…and Luffy fighting Moria, the final fate of Ace will be revealed at the moment of confrontation.
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Kuma revealing Ace's death only spell doom for Moria….....
Pro-Main Cast Evangelist. In Oda We Trust. TheJackAss Crew. AMC = Anti-main Cast. Luffy x Nami.
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I m 100 percento sure Ace is dead , but I m not so sure it would be revealed so soon.
I think Oda will let us in the dark a little more just to torture the fans.
We'll see soon enough how he'll handle this matter.
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