The fights seem pretty short, hopefully the anime extends it, so we get more in-depth coverage for them. And it'll let Oda go further ahead of it.
Chapter 467 "Pirate Zoro vs Samurai Ryuma" Discussion
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I liked this fight, actually… I thought it would be bad, but I like it much better than Sanji's. >_> shot
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I seriously doubt its a mini arc with so many important things happening. I just think oda doesnt want things to drag on like Water 7 and the Lobby. Even Oda himself said that the last arc dragged on more then he like. Maybe he is just want a good flow of action, which is no problem with me.
Thriller Bark is a bit like Jaya in that it comes between two major arcs (Enies Lobby and Fishman Island).
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I liked this fight, actually… I thought it would be bad, but I like it much better than Sanji's. >_> shot
Your not alone everybody thinks Sanji's was then worst fight so far.
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Zoro keeps the pride of swordssmmen high ^^
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Your not alone everybody thinks Sanji's was then worst fight so far.
Yeah… >_> I feel sorry for Sanji... I didn't like his fight at Enies Lobby or here. :X
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I'm impressed, I haven't enjoyed a Zoro fight like this since East Blue. It was kept a nice short length and not a page was wasted, building up the intensity and tension quickly without feeling rushed or cheapened. No dragging, no tedious and cliche swordsman banter, none of the usual bullshit. If only all Zoro fights could deliver like this in future.
All in all, a pretty damn good chapter. Not as awesome, exciting and suspenseful as Usopp's fight, but MILES above Sanji's. (In fairness, Oda could take a dump on a piece of paper, xerox it 20 times, submit that and it'd still be better than the Sanji fight.)
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Sanji had a good fight in Enies Lobby, but Jabura wasn't a terribly interesting character.
His fight with Absalom was only anticlimactic because there was no strategy. It was just Sanji being majorly pissed off. Absy got a lot of buildup and not much payoff.
Zoro vs. Ryuuma makes up for it, though. I was afraid it would drag on and on like Zoro vs. Ohm or something.
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Somehow the last time Sanji really had a fight where he had to use strategy to do something was back against Wazne. Since then all he's really had is "a woman he won't touch" (Calipha), a wolfman who didn't do too much (Jabura) and a guy who stole his favorite female and stole "his Devil Fruit". (Absolom) Hopefuly Fishman Island will make up for it considering that he actually did sweat a bit against Kurobi…at least until they got out of the water, but I would like to see a true Fishman Karate master or something for him to really have a good battle.
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@Tokoro:
a wolfman who didn't do too much (Jabura)
Despite I am a Jabura rabid fan, I agree. I wanted he messed a bit more with Sanji before Sanji came up with that Diable Jambe. But maybe it was Sanji's fault. In his recent fights he doesn't let his opponents give a good counter-attack.
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But because I'm a Brooke-fan, I'm a little sad… Brooke got owned easily and Zoro finished the battle in 5 minutes
I share the same emotions, just in a much more severe way.
I mean, here is a guy, or skeleton (i dont really give a shit) who has his shadow removed and desperately wants to get it back; and he has been trying to get it back for a long time. In a sense, his pride/dignity went along with his shadow. So Oda has Zoro get Brooke's shadow back.
Way to go there.
I mean, hell, if something of mine was taken from me, I wouldnt let anyone try and get it back. Why would I want other people to fight my battles for me? Thats just pathetic. Oda in this chapter made Brook look like a loser and a pussy who couldnt get his shadow back himself. Oda really let me down here. I understand Zoro wants to be the world's greatest swordsman, but not at the expense of making Brook look like a pansy.
Hopefully, other people's theories about Brook returning the favor becomes true. Even if it does happen, it wouldn't feel the same for me.
This was a bigger letdown than Sanji's fight.
Please don't let me down, Chopper.
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Well, if Brook couldn't get his shadow back 5 years ago. There was little hope in him getting it back all by himself now.
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Chopper vs Hogback (if it happens) will be the same kind of fights we've seen until now: he won't need to go in Monster Point and probably won't even need to use rumble balls. We already saw that Hogback is no fighter when Brook attacked TB 5 years ago…
Maybe, maybe not. I think Hogback and Chopper has to have some sort of conflict. After all, Hogback was able just give Absolom animal parts to make himself stronger, so maybe he could do something similar to himself? Or, he'll just send zombie after zombie to defend himself. Who knows, but I doubt it'll be skipped. I'm suspicious that these two seemingly non figheters–Hogback and Cindry--are pitted against Chopper and Robin.
Again, the most important fight will likely be vs Oz.
But this is true, and it'll be awesome. Probably the whole crew will take out Odz–like Luffy's 'subordinates' vs. Moria's ultimate subordinate.
@Nattu:
Hopefully, other people's theories about Brook returning the favor becomes true. Even if it does happen, it wouldn't feel the same for me.
Hey hey now, we've seen that Brooke can kick ass, even if it's not Ryuma's. Think about all he can do. Maybe he'll annihilate most of the zombies on the island, like he seemed to do a few years ago? Maybe he'll critically injure Oz (probably along the other Shs)
Of course, this is assuming that Brooke is in fighting shape, although he was standing up just fine after getting his shadow back. Anyway, Usopp is proof that these characters can get cool fights even after a period of getting beat down.
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I don't think they (the mugiwara) could defeat Oz. He's simply way too powerful, and if Luffy fought him, then he would be outclassed by Oz's physical abilities, just like Brooke against Ryuuma.
Anyways, I can see Brooke's music playing a major role to stop Oz or power-up Luffy to beat Moria, even tough it's ridiculous as hell.
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Maybe, maybe not. I think Hogback and Chopper has to have some sort of conflict. After all, Hogback was able just give Absolom animal parts to make himself stronger, so maybe he could do something similar to himself? Or, he'll just send zombie after zombie to defend himself. Who knows, but I doubt it'll be skipped. I'm suspicious that these two seemingly non figheters–Hogback and Cindry--are pitted against Chopper and Robin.
I really don't know. Hogback seems the most frightened of the Mysterious Four, as he didn't show his abilities yet and shook in fear everytime he was confronted by someone. I think the next fight will be mostly Chopper vs. Jigoroh in my opinion.
Ah, I also imagine Chopper will pull something like "Dead people must be dead" if he or Robin purifies Cindry and the other zombies.
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@Natty:
In a sense, his pride/dignity went along with his shadow. So Oda has Zoro get Brooke's shadow back
I mean, hell, if something of mine was taken from me, I wouldnt let anyone try and get it back. Why would I want other people to fight my battles for me? Thats just pathetic. Oda in this chapter made Brook look like a loser and a pussy who couldnt get his shadow back himself. Oda really let me down here. I understand Zoro wants to be the world's greatest swordsman, but not at the expense of making Brook look like a pansy.Zoro did not fight Ryuuma for Brooke's shadow at all. The real reason he fought Ryuuma was because he wanted a new sword.
So Brooke's pride doesn't have to be hurt. Zoro even made Brooke shut up when he ws thanking him for getting his shadow back. Zoro doesn't want Brooke's pride to be lowered so easily like that.
So even though it seems that Brooke's pride is broken, Zoro's actions and words made it not so. Whether Brooke does something in return for Zoro however is something that will be seen in the future.
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Haven't we already discussed to death why Brooke stood no chance against Ryuuma? Face it, Ryuuma had stronger vesions of all of Brooke's attacks, aimed for Brooke's weakness (the afro), and had a better blade. As much as I love Brooke, him beating Ryuuma would've been nigh impossible.
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Wealleatfood is right less face it his bones are weak.
like your sig.by the way.
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Wealleatfood is right less face it his bones are weak.
like your sig.by the way.
I can now die happily.:wub:
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Yes my post makes people do that or kills them mad.
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@Natty:
I share the same emotions, just in a much more severe way.
I mean, here is a guy, or skeleton (i dont really give a shit) who has his shadow removed and desperately wants to get it back; and he has been trying to get it back for a long time. In a sense, his pride/dignity went along with his shadow. So Oda has Zoro get Brooke's shadow back.
Way to go there.
I mean, hell, if something of mine was taken from me, I wouldnt let anyone try and get it back. Why would I want other people to fight my battles for me? Thats just pathetic. Oda in this chapter made Brook look like a loser and a pussy who couldnt get his shadow back himself. Oda really let me down here. I understand Zoro wants to be the world's greatest swordsman, but not at the expense of making Brook look like a pansy.
Hopefully, other people's theories about Brook returning the favor becomes true. Even if it does happen, it wouldn't feel the same for me.
This was a bigger letdown than Sanji's fight.
Please don't let me down, Chopper.
If someone kidnapped your loved one you wouldn't swallow your pride and call the police, but instead you'd risk your life (and your loved ones) so that you could feel hardcore and get back what was taken from you on your own?
I'm surprised no one has mentioned the very obvious similarity between this fight and Luffy's fight in Mock Town with Bellamy. Then, Luffy got something back for his friend. Here, Zoro got something back for a friend (and got a sword out of it too).
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@Natty:
I share the same emotions, just in a much more severe way.
I mean, here is a guy, or skeleton (i dont really give a shit) who has his shadow removed and desperately wants to get it back; and he has been trying to get it back for a long time. In a sense, his pride/dignity went along with his shadow. So Oda has Zoro get Brooke's shadow back.
Way to go there.
I mean, hell, if something of mine was taken from me, I wouldnt let anyone try and get it back. Why would I want other people to fight my battles for me? Thats just pathetic. Oda in this chapter made Brook look like a loser and a pussy who couldnt get his shadow back himself. Oda really let me down here. I understand Zoro wants to be the world's greatest swordsman, but not at the expense of making Brook look like a pansy.
Hopefully, other people's theories about Brook returning the favor becomes true. Even if it does happen, it wouldn't feel the same for me.
This was a bigger letdown than Sanji's fight.
Please don't let me down, Chopper.
Theres not point in fghting a battle you can't win, not accepting help makes you look like a pompous arragont prick, if I wanted something back that bad, I'd gladely let other people help.
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Why everybody hatin on Sanji's fight? So what if it was One Sided. The whole point of that was to show how much the crew has grown. Having equal fights all the time would start to wear and get old anyway. It's stupid because People don't complain about Luffy crushing Bellamy, and he crushed him for something that Luffy believed in. Same way for Sanji.
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Why everybody hatin on Sanji's fight? So what if it was One Sided. The whole point of that was to show how much the crew has grown. Having equal fights all the time would start to wear and get old anyway. It's stupid because People don't complain about Luffy crushing Bellamy, and he crushed him for something that Luffy believed in. Same way for Sanji.
Yeah…except Luffy crushing Bellamy was, I don't know, done well?
Comparing that to Sanji's excuse for a fight makes God shed a tear.
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@Natty:
I share the same emotions, just in a much more severe way.
I mean, here is a guy, or skeleton (i dont really give a shit) who has his shadow removed and desperately wants to get it back; and he has been trying to get it back for a long time. In a sense, his pride/dignity went along with his shadow. So Oda has Zoro get Brooke's shadow back.
Way to go there.
I mean, hell, if something of mine was taken from me, I wouldnt let anyone try and get it back. Why would I want other people to fight my battles for me? Thats just pathetic. Oda in this chapter made Brook look like a loser and a pussy who couldnt get his shadow back himself. Oda really let me down here. I understand Zoro wants to be the world's greatest swordsman, but not at the expense of making Brook look like a pansy.
Hopefully, other people's theories about Brook returning the favor becomes true. Even if it does happen, it wouldn't feel the same for me.
This was a bigger letdown than Sanji's fight.
Please don't let me down, Chopper.
Aye, about Brook.
Why do you sound so disappointed NOW? I mean, as much as I remember, Zoro took on the fight ages ago. Back then I was also disappointed as hell on the same matter, but got over it because of 2 simple facts.
Ryuuma was really stronger than Brook.
Brook is a funny motherfucker with no pride whatsoever and his job in the crew is soley make them laugh, at ANY GIVEN MOMENT. Thought we can hate the pride thing as much as we want, it can't be done otherwise.I dunno really about returning the fact. 50-50 chance. I really don't know what zombies are gonna be thrown at them, but Zoro can easily enough be caught again and so.
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@Kaimei-Karasuhebi:
I don't think they (the mugiwara) could defeat Oz. He's simply way too powerful, and if Luffy fought him, then he would be outclassed by Oz's physical abilities, just like Brooke against Ryuuma.
Anyways, I can see Brooke's music playing a major role to stop Oz or power-up Luffy to beat Moria, even tough it's ridiculous as hell.
You know, I don't know if Luffy vs. Odz would end up the same as Ryuma vs. Brooke. While it makes sense, there are differences. For one, notice that one time when Odz did a Gomu gomu attack, he tore some of his skin open. While Odz is a powerful giant with a powerful shadow…having Luffy's shadow can cause weaknesses too. Imagine Odz screwing up some of the weirder gomu gomu attacks. What if Odz tried to do "rifle?" That and, I think Luffy is fucking badass enough to kick Odz's ass with the right motivation. Let's not forget that Odz doesn't have access to Luffy's gear 2 and gear 3.
It's not completely likely, but I want to throw this possibility out there.
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I haven't posted for awhile, but this chapter was excellent enough to warrant a post. 100% style.
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Yeah…except Luffy crushing Bellamy was, I don't know, done well?
Comparing that to Sanji's excuse for a fight makes God shed a tear.
Can you or somebody else give me a better response than that? What was so poorly about the fight? Was it because you expected a big all out brawl, but didn't, or is it because of the anti main cast thing? Please Clarify
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Can you or somebody else give me a better response than that? What was so poorly about the fight? Was it because you expected a big all out brawl, but didn't, or is it because of the anti main cast thing? Please Clarify
what you have to understand about these ppl on AP is they are nit picky don't really have rational explanation for things and just want things done a certain way. Its funny because at the beginning of the Arc they was all crying how it was to slow and to drawn out now they cry because the fights don't last long enough and the pace is to fast and Oda is rushing to get to fisherman island. But they tend to jump back and fourth like that and tend not to know what the hell they are talking about.
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Can you or somebody else give me a better response than that? What was so poorly about the fight? Was it because you expected a big all out brawl, but didn't, or is it because of the anti main cast thing? Please Clarify
Bellamy was set up as an arrogant asshole who you just wanted to see get knocked the fuck out, Bellamy asking "can you even throw a punch" then BOOM 1HKO with a fist imprint on your face, perfect. Absalom was a guy that you were made to think of as strong, for him to just get worked over by Sanji like that is pretty damn lame.
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Can you or somebody else give me a better response than that? What was so poorly about the fight? Was it because you expected a big all out brawl, but didn't, or is it because of the anti main cast thing? Please Clarify
I also don't see what's the fuss about Absalom. He's not a pure brawler like the past opponents of Sanji. Hell, I think even Wanze and Kurobi could defeat Him if they saw trough the invisibility crap. Anyways, I'm only dissapointed because Oda got rid of Absalom before something else happened. I actually wanted more Nami-Absalom intereaction and perhaps the revelation of Moria's Treasure, something neat like that before he got pummeled to death by Sanji.
For some reason I hope that Luffy does something stupid like Baku-Baku to get rid of Moria's shadow powers. I doubt Moria was more than a mere obstacle that the WG Placed in the way of the potentially dangerous pirates that could be easily caught off guard by the sneaky abilities of Moria's crew. I just can't see him as an active threat like Don, Crocodile or Mihawk.
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MonkeyDMalcom: are you sure its the same people that whine about both things? couldnt it be two groups that is fairly consistant in their opinion?
NuFiasco: i think it has to do with drama/story potential. Bellamy was practiacally run dry. while the nami-Absolom-Sanji-Lola intrigue had/has more to give. regurgitateing (aka repeating with other words) what Kamei said
What the…? Holy smurf am I slow! Until this statement of yours I never even realized that an octopus is actually serving octopusballs. Talk about not seeing the forest because of too many trees. facepalm
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Sanji's fight was shitty because he utterly fuckstomped a villain that had a lot of potential to be interesting. Absalon's a monstrous chimera that can turn invisible and uses bazookas. And what happens? Sanji just kicks him around and easily wins.
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MonkeyDMalcom: are you sure its the same people that whine about both things? couldnt it be two groups that is fairly consistant in their opinion?
NuFiasco: i think it has to do with drama/story potential. Bellamy was practiacally run dry. while the nami-Absolom-Sanji-Lola intrigue had/has more to give. regurgitateing (aka repeating with other words) what Kamei said
I'm not sure lol but its prob the same ppl lol
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If someone kidnapped your loved one you wouldn't swallow your pride and call the police, but instead you'd risk your life (and your loved ones) so that you could feel hardcore and get back what was taken from you on your own?
I'm surprised no one has mentioned the very obvious similarity between this fight and Luffy's fight in Mock Town with Bellamy. Then, Luffy got something back for his friend. Here, Zoro got something back for a friend (and got a sword out of it too).
Chances are the kidnappers would ask me not to use the cops. Frankly, I would listen because the cops in my city are all idiots who give speeding tickets like theres no tomorrow and wouldnt know what to do in such a situtation.
Brooke it was like this dudes been waiting for a long time, he I assume trained for 5 years to try and get his shadow back and when he finally attempts to do so, he gets his ass handed to him. It was a real let down. When it comes to things like that, it is a matter of pride.
Maybe I am blinded by pride, but right now its unforgivable what Oda did.
Its like if fucking Ussop kicked Moria's ass. Its like…....no.....
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@Natty:
Chances are the kidnappers would ask me not to use the cops. Frankly, I would listen because the cops in my city are all idiots who give speeding tickets like theres no tomorrow and wouldnt know what to do in such a situtation.
Brooke it was like this dudes been waiting for a long time, he I assume trained for 5 years to try and get his shadow back and when he finally attempts to do so, he gets his ass handed to him. It was a real let down. When it comes to things like that, it is a matter of pride.
Maybe I am blinded by pride, but right now its unforgivable what Oda did.
Its like if fucking Ussop kicked Moria's ass. Its like…....no.....
1. Without cops, there'll be no law enforcers and we'll do anything we want.
2. The place you live in, sounds shit.
3. Lmao, cops doesn't know what to do with a kidnapping situation… They're trained for it.
4. We all have to live with disappointments.
5. You would prefer Pride over life won't you?
Join Pirate Quest Now, before I cockslap you.
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1. Without cops, there'll be no law enforcers and we'll do anything we want.
2. The place you live in, sounds shit.
3. Lmao, cops doesn't know what to do with a kidnapping situation… They're trained for it.
4. We all have to live with disappointments.
5. You would prefer Pride over life won't you?
1. Im not saying there shouldnt be cops, but the cops around here dont do much.
2. It's hot, and boring. Thank God I live close to SF.
3. They maybe trained for it, but chances are that they have never come across that situation, and if they did they would somehow screw it up. They're great for writting you a ticket though.
4. Sadly, but it is a part of life.
5. If I was being mugged, I wouldnt stand there and let the fuckers take my money, I would put up a fight, even if I had a chance that I'd die.
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I dunno,the chapter was OK,but thank Goodness the Zoro fight is,at least for now,over and we may move to Hogback fight (hopefully only one chapter as well) and then we can get to that for witch we have been waiting for weeks-the continuation of the Moria fight.
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@Natty:
1. Im not saying there shouldnt be cops, but the cops around here dont do much.
2. It's hot, and boring. Thank God I live close to SF.
3. They maybe trained for it, but chances are that they have never come across that situation, and if they did they would somehow screw it up. They're great for writting you a ticket though.
4. Sadly, but it is a part of life.
5. If I was being mugged, I wouldnt stand there and let the fuckers take my money, I would put up a fight, even if I had a chance that I'd die.
1. What's the difference between no cops and cops that don't do much?
2. It's freezing here, change location.
3. I'm sure there's been many hostage situation around the world. I mean every country would at least have one. Especially when you live in America.
4. Yes, that's why we must live with it.
5. That's why you would prefer pride over life. If I was you, I wouldn't do anything stupid, just stay quiet and obey their demands.
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Great chapter, I thought it was very rushed although the final few pages were excellent I have too say.
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@Natty:
Brooke it was like this dudes been waiting for a long time, he I assume trained for 5 years to try and get his shadow back and when he finally attempts to do so, he gets his ass handed to him. It was a real let down. When it comes to things like that, it is a matter of pride.
Brooke wanted to get his shadow back so he could see Laboon again. It wasn't a matter of 'My pride won't let me lose' it was 'I can't lose otherwise I can't see laboon again'
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@Cyringohn:
Sanji's fight was shitty because he utterly fuckstomped a villain that had a lot of potential to be interesting. Absalon's a monstrous chimera that can turn invisible and uses bazookas. And what happens? Sanji just kicks him around and easily wins.
Read the post of this guy, he speaks the total truth.
@NuFiasco: Anti-main cast hasn't to do with anything. It is just an excuse to say that people's complaints around one of the Straw Hats is unreasonable. Also, we aren't forced to like all the Straw Hats, are we?
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@Cyringohn:
Sanji's fight was shitty because he utterly fuckstomped a villain that had a lot of potential to be interesting. Absalon's a monstrous chimera that can turn invisible and uses bazookas. And what happens? Sanji just kicks him around and easily wins.
Thank you.
take into account this and Outlawz post, and wa law! There's my thoughts.
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Read the post of this guy, he speaks the total truth.
@NuFiasco: Anti-main cast hasn't to do with anything. It is just an excuse to say that people's complaints around one of the Straw Hats is unreasonable. Also, we aren't forced to like all the Straw Hats, are we?
Oh yes we are,and if you disobey,then the almighty foot of Oda shall squish your whole country,saying:And now for something completely different!Or am I mixing something up? :wassat:
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Why everybody hatin on Sanji's fight? So what if it was One Sided. The whole point of that was to show how much the crew has grown. Having equal fights all the time would start to wear and get old anyway.
These people are anti-main cast fans. They are never satisfied. Some even hope that Absalom goes toe-to-toe with Sanji because of the Devil fruit and also the bazookas.
Anti-main cast is not an excuse, but a fact. A fact that many fans read One Piece because of other stuff and not the main cast. Then they slammed each and every time a main cast does anything, while praising everything from the door repair main to the running panda to the 5 old geezers who only shiver is fear at the comfort of their protected holy land.I agree with you that one of the point of this arc is to show how much the mugiwaras has grown in power/strength after taking out the Marine's strongest secret police CP9.
Pro-Main Cast Evangelist. In Oda We Trust. TheJackAss Crew. AMC = Anti-main Cast. Luffy x Nami.
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These people are anti-main cast fans. They are never satisfied. Some even hope that Absalom goes toe-to-toe with Sanji because of the Devil fruit and also the bazookas.
I agree with you that one of the point of this arc is to show how much the mugiwaras has grown in power/strength after taking out the Marine's strongest secret police CP9.
OH NO! THE CAT'S OUT OF THE BAG NOW, YOU GUYS!
Will you please stop it with this ''anti main cast'' bullshit?
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OH NO! THE CAT'S OUT OF THE BAG NOW, YOU GUYS!
Will you please stop it with this ''anti main cast'' bullshit?
Then tell me why you read One Piece? What you all are slamming all this while is slamming the main cast of One Piece. If you don't like it that much, why are you coming here and say One Piece is a good manga, but keep on saying this should be done, that should be done, or he/she/it should be done like that instead of what Oda is doing? Not saying you should love the main cast. I guess you all already understand that the main-cast is the main stay of the manga, obviously, that the storyline will revolved around the main cast.
I came to this conclusion that many people really hate what Luffy and the mugiwara's actions. Since I joined Arlong park forum, comments for each spoiler thread, each chapter discussion since Jul 2006. I saw the trend. I read the opinions and the attitude. And also those dominating the discussions are "self-proclaimed" lovers of non-main cast. There is no way I am going to back down from what I am doing. You might say it is "bullshit", but the facts are there. It's just the matter of if anyone cares to accept the facts or ignore it totally. If you don't want to accept it, that's you right. I just want to point out a fact.Anti-main cast fans is a fact. Just that some don't know about it or don't even know they are like that.
Anti-main cast is not isolated only to One Piece. Bleach, D.gray-man, Reborn are infected with this problem too.
Pro-Main Cast Evangelist. In Oda We Trust. TheJackAss Crew. AMC = Anti-main Cast. Luffy x Nami.
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Then tell me why you read One Piece? What you all are slamming all this while is slamming the main cast of One Piece. If you don't like it that much, why are you coming here and say One Piece is a good manga, but keep on saying this should be done, that should be done, or he/she/it should be done like that instead of what Oda is doing? Not saying you should love the main cast. I guess you all already understand that the main-cast is the main stay of the manga, obviously, that the storyline will revolved around the main cast.
I came to this conclusion that many people really hate what Luffy and the mugiwara's actions. Since I joined Arlong park forum, comments for each spoiler thread, each chapter discussion since Jul 2006. I saw the trend. I read the opinions and the attitude. And also those dominating the discussions are "self-proclaimed" lovers of non-main cast. There is no way I am going to back down from what I am doing. You might say it is "bullshit", but the facts are there. It's just the matter of if anyone cares to accept the facts or ignore it totally. If you don't want to accept it, that's you right. I just want to point out a fact.Anti-main cast fans is a fact. Just that some don't know about it or don't even know they are like that.
Anti-main cast is not isolated only to One Piece. Bleach, D.gray-man, Reborn are infected with this problem too.
Now now, just because people criticize some elements of a story doesn't mean that they hate it or the main cast. That, and I'm pretty sure that these Anti Main casters are in relatively small quantity's here, unless you show otherwise.
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Personally, every fight this arc so far has been boring with the exception of Usopp. I also found Zoro's fight even less enjoyable than Sanji's. At least with Sanji, I could go "DAMN, Absalom just got the shit knocked out of him." It just stared at this chapter as I went to the next page. Seemed like something out of Bleach.
I guess I prefer the Bandana and the gimmicky swordsmen. It's what keeps each of the opponents fresh and original. Not as good as the Mr. 1 Fight. Oh, and I like the Kaku fight as well.
TB is under the Davy Back Fight Arc for me. Now watch as people disagree/flame me because I have a different opinion.
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