Yeah we don
t know how they interact, but Haki is definitely not as necessary by BB as it is by a Logia-user who else cant be hit.
But like you said we never saw the whole fight, so Ace using Haki is definitely not impossible.
Knowing that BB will be the final opponent and that Haki is a very important technique(Luffy spending two years to master it)we can be sure to assume that Luffy will somehow fight BB with Haki but for that we need more infos.
Interesting point about Luffya nd teh final battle with BB. Obviously Haki will be decisive in some way, but if he totally pwns him too fast due to having haki when BB doesn't, that would not be the satifying fight we're all looking forward to. I'm betting it'll be something a little more like the battle with Lucci–where Luffy almost loses, but then pulls it out at the last minute, although by then I don't think we should see him laying on the floor nearly dead. He should be the clear winner. So while I agree haki will play a part, I have to think there're be some way BB can counter it, and Luffy will have to think on his feet to finally be the ultimate winner.
Yup, we already talked about that and iam 100% behind the thought, that Kings Haki has more behind it than just intimidation and bending some planks.
It sure has a lot of potential to use it combined with the other Colors of Haki and also it should be possible to bundle that power one one specific spot orso, to make it dangerous also for stronger opponents who won`t faint that easily.
See I knew you'd come around to my way of thinking. A true gentleman never argues with a lady.
Plus, I'm always right, as you'll soon see when you lose our bet.:ninja:
Here i see a problem.
What?!? See above. :ninja:
When a Haki user would always be able to free himself from whatever handcuff or chain he
s bound to, the WG would always instantly kill them. I mean in ID there are sure many Haki-users who should be able to escape then rather easily..but thats not the case! (just look, even Shiki had to cut off his legs,and considering him a legend should also imply that he was sure aware how to use Haki) So that its so easy to use Haki all the time to free oneself can`t be the point and so also for Ace not possible to free himself.
(sigh) Yes I suppose that could be true, except it needs intense training to gain even the basics of any haki, and that there are so few King's Haki users, and out of them, perhaps even fewer still who have fully mastered the advanced uses of the technique, perhaps many are never even able to fully master the finer uses, and I would think something as delicate as a lock, especially the ones on those neck collars that could trigger an explosion, must be damned hard to do…
One explanation for that could be that Ace wasn`t able to use Kings Haki(\and so was not Shiki), and only that kind of Haki can be used to brake handcuffs etc(like we saw Rayleigh using it in the auction house)
<– here our theories how else Kings Haki can be used comes into the play
Another solution could be that the marine has handcuffs\chains similiar to Kairoseki, just for holding back Haki-users to free them.
Maybe the handcuffs in the auction house gave Rayleigh to much space to move his hands the way he had to free him, while Ace`s handcuffs + the watching eye of Sengoku were enough protection to detain Ace to use Haki here.
Yes, I think it's quite probable that Ace never had much formal haki training while on WBs crew. Like a previous poster commented, it's likely they had other things to keep them occupied, and Luffy jsut spent two years in intense training just to learn to basics, so while Ace apparently knew about haki, and couold even tell king's from other types (judging from his reaction when Luffy used his during the war) he may not have had the training to use his own effectively.
As for cuffs or some other restraining device useful against haki users–with Vegapunk running around, anything seems possible.
Thats what iam here for..just killing your joy, my dear
I love you too, babe
But about Ace not using Haki to free himself:
I guess you
re right in saying that it just would have been awkward for the story when suddenly Ace could free himself that easily with a world wide known technique.The marines should be aware of that technique so there is NO FUCKING WAY that Ace could free himself via that technique. So Oda simply just didnt use it here, even when it may be possible.
Ah, so we circle back to the place where I'm right, again, just as it ought to be. I like it here. (Bone? You were "throwing me a bone?" What bone? I see no bones lying around here. )