The first movie was terrible. I have no intention of seeing the second.
It's not even that it wasn't a Star Trek film. It was just a bad movie, period.
The first movie was terrible. I have no intention of seeing the second.
It's not even that it wasn't a Star Trek film. It was just a bad movie, period.
I loved the last film and can't wait for the next one. ;-)
http://movies.ign.com/objects/142/14258963.html
Star Trek 2
http://movies.ign.com/articles/121/1213897p1.html
Villian is going to be….
(in advance forgive me if there was a thread specifically for Star Trek 2 I couldn't find one after doing an in depth search for one)
This is such a bad idea it's not even funny.
It's everything people were worried about when the concept of st09 was mooted.
But the entire reason Khan worked was because there was 15 years of history there between the show episode and the movie.
And do they REALLY want to take a crack at remaking the BEST ST movie?
There were 77 other episodes of the tv series you could play with guys. Or you know. New stories.
Hey now, they're not remaking Undiscovered Country.
But yeah, I'm stunned that they're taking the worst-case reboot "what if" and turning it into reality.
I don't see how they can possibly remake Wrath of Kahn without redoing the episode he debuted in.
Dammit! We lost Del Toro.
http://collider.com/benicio-del-toro-drops-out-star-trek-sequel/130440/
Hey now, they're not remaking Undiscovered Country.
Far as I'm concerned, it's Voyage Home.
But the general consensus is its Wrath of Khan.
If only Spock had stayed dead…
but then we'd have missed out on the "row row row row row…row your boat" scene in V.
Spock had an amazing death scene. Having a supporting role in a couple more movies, and a random episode of TNG doesn't really excuse undoing the weight and power and sacrifice of that sequence.
Nevermind that they spent the entire third movie doing it.
Yeah. Aside from data using the neck pinch, unification was incredibly bad.
Although "don't believe them, don't trust them" in VI wouldn't have worked anywhere near as well without spock, and that is one of my favourite star trek scenes.
Three was a terrible film, but given what the character adds to IV & VI I'm happy with him still kicking. If only data was(although in contrast to spock's poignant death, data's was as moronic as kirk's).
They gave Data an out by having him transfer his data to the, just discovered in that movie, third brother. Not that it really matters since that was the last movie and Spiner had long since passed the point he should have been playing an ageless robot anyway.
Books can always fix it.
He should have gone with "it makes me look more distinguished", like in the last episode.
Even for the gut
It still amazes me to this day that, not only was Kirk's death as bad as it was… but THAT was the reshoot! It was actually WORSE before!
Also that Picard leaves him buried under a pile of rocks so the wolves can get him instead of having the ship transport up the body of a legendary admiral when it picks him up.
Yeah. Even the producers admitted they screwed up.
I mean, as a film for either his revival in the 24th century, or his heroic death, it'd be ok. But as it was they did neither.
The threat wasn't particularly large - yes there was a planet at stake, but that's small beans to kirk, he used to do that three times a day.
Then the villains were terrible. While Malcolm McDowell is a good actor, they didn't exactly give him much to work with. And we had lursa and b'etor boringly recycled from the klingon civil war.
And as you said the finale itself was useless.
Nevermind that they had access to perfect time travel so they really could have gone and stopped him whenever they wanted… they didn't need to do it 5 minutes before crisis on the planet.
Unless they're both still dreaming in the nexus, anyway, and movies 8-10 are all a lie.
Eh screw it. Plinektt already said all there is to say about the Next Gen films. Not as acclaimed and lengthy as his Star Wars reviews, but they still say what they needed to say.