Okay okay…so there are probably few trek fans here (even I'm not an obsessive fan) but TNG is probably my favorite out of all 5 (five...geez...) tv shows. Any trekkies who care to comment on anything related to the series, you can say anything here...
...on a side note, for those who know Captain Picard, I do a radio show with my best friend entitled "The Captain Picard Radio Show." there are three episodes of it on youtube.
dang. no posts after over three years. nobody here has seen it or likes it? nobody? dang…
s'alright.
Classic series movies are my favourite. TNG is pretty good but its aged pretty badly.
Havent watched it properly since it aired really. See bits and pieces now and then but never followed it too closely.
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s'alright.
Classic series movies are my favourite. TNG is pretty good but its aged pretty badly.
Havent watched it properly since it aired really. See bits and pieces now and then but never followed it too closely.
TOS has always been my personal favorite as well, but trust me man, next gen comes very very close.
Babylon 5 is better.
interesting, you have geordi's visor on your avatar. very nice avatar. you oughtta put something babylon 5-ish on it.
Never a great fan of next gen.
TOS & DS9 are unquestionably the best of trek, Enterprise & Voyager pretty bad, while TNG sits somewhere in the middle. Most of the first few seasons are a wash, save a few gems such as the Q eps. I think it found it's feet with best of both worlds, but even after that I only think it became watchable as opposed to good. Next gen had nothing like Balance of Terror, or In the Pale Moonlight.
TOS has always been my personal favorite as well, but trust me man, next gen comes very very close.
No no no, I didnt say TOS - I said the TOS Movies. They may have the same actors but its a totally different feel.
Love them. All of them. Even 1 and 5.
VI is my favourite
the dialogue cracks me up every time.
@RobbyBevard:
Babylon 5 is better.
Even deep space 9 was better than babylon 5. Heck even enterprise was better and that was just plain awful.
G'kar was the only redeeming factor of that programme.
@RobbyBevard:
You fail badly at trolling.
Says the man claiming babylon 5 is better than star trek, while using a geordi laforge avatar.
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TOS was best. Next Gen had its fair share of good episodes, but despite running longer, it never quite hit the consistent highs of TOS. DS9 was good after they'd set up for a couple years. Voyager was trash pretty much immediately, and I never bothered with Enterprise past the pilot episode.
Says the man claiming babylon 5 is better than star trek, while using a geordi laforge avatar.
Well yeah. A Centari haircut on a wolf just looks weird.
You can argue up and down all day long between DS9 and B5, and thats fair enough, (given that DS9 later started copying what was working for B5) but to even pretend that Voyager or Enterprise were its superior?
B5 had ongoing plot, a master plan, mysteries that were unveiled throughout the course of the show, characters that grew and changed, and an epic scale and scope. The music was fantastic, as were most of the lead actors, G'Kar and Londo especially. The romantic chemistry between Sheriden and Delenn was fantastic and one of my all time favorite romance stories, as a subplot! In general, relationships on B5 lasted more than one convenient episode. The writing was witty, emotional, and consistent (given that it has one writer for 90% of it.)
The average episode isn’t neatly ended in the last 5 minutes, sometimes the goodguys lost, and aspects of the real world existed within it, like poverty, paychecks, dock workers, and fear of that which is different (being it telepath, dictatorship or alien). And the characters actually have sex!
The variety of all the races was excellent, and the show possessed a scope that covered 20 years closely, and a million in the broad terms.
The science and physics were accurate with realistic inertia, if thats your thing.
B5 had it all, including a beginning, middle and end. Fantastic series.
Trek is fine for stand alone episodes. And there are some great ones. But aside from Riker growing a beard, there's almost no character development, bigger picture or plot, its kind of status quo. (Tho TOS movies, and DS9 were better about it.)
Ok ok enterprise was for comical value, but next generation and even some of the voyager specials absolutely donned babylon 5.The movies alone justifies its dominant position.
Then you have to look at the graphics/scenery, the cast and story which is rather cool when looking at series like voyager. A ship the other side of the quadrant from home, the crew added to by various races along the journey, and the fantastic visuals of space itself. (even if its a little later on)
Btw please don't say their isn't character development when we have Wesley, Wharf and Data. Laforge, Riker and the various bits of eyecandy were almost trapped in their roles due to them not really being able to progress further without being moved or playing less time in the spotlight.
You know I might actually run through a few B5 episodes tomorrow to see if my views on it are a little dated.
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Btw please don't say their isn't character development when we have Wesley, Wharf and Data. Laforge, Riker and the various bits of eyecandy were almost trapped in their roles due to them not really being able to progress further without being moved or playing less time in the spotlight.
Wesley. Tried to get into the Academy for 6 years, decided in the 7th that he didn't care. Puberty happened to him, not much else. He began as a Mary Sue, he ended as a Mary Sue.
Worf eventually got a son and started dating Troi, and then later married Dax, granted. But over the course of what, 15 years and two series? He started as the lone Klingon in Starfleet, he pretty much ended there. Until late in his DS9 tenure.
Data… eventually got an emotion chip.
So what? Those three changed a bit, so its okay that Picard, Riker, Laforge, Beverly Crusher, and Troi didn't? How were any of them different at the end of the series from the start?
Cripes, counting the movies, Riker remained a second in command for like 15 years. That's career death. (Of course, apparently Captain Kirk in the new continuity left Star Fleet and became a captain in the course of a day...)
B5 had characters become ambassadors, presidents and emporers, die, get married, change species, get reassigned to different worlds permanently, go on extended missions elsewhere... and it still managed to keep track of the entire rotating cast and give them adequate screen time, AND development.
@RobbyBevard:
B5 had characters become ambassadors, presidents and emporers, die, get married, change species, get reassigned to different worlds permanently, go on extended missions elsewhere… and it still managed to keep track of the entire rotating cast and give them adequate screen time, AND development.
and it was really interesting and entertaining watching it!
oh wait.
no it wasnt.
It's pretty much on the same tier as Farscape and Andromeda. Terrible.
Terrible.
Each to their own though.
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I like that TNG are stand alone episodes. I can pick one up and just watch it that way. I still love watching them today. Never could get into TOS even though, I know it's popular.
never seen babylon
but TNG is probably my favorite out of all 5 (five…geez...) tv shows.
Six. You forgot the animated series.
To me, I'd say DS9 was the best show, followed by TOS and TAS. I loved TNG when I saw it for the first time. But, I had the completely opposite reaction when I saw it the second time. So many episodes felt dull, there was no drama or tension. The exploration aspect was fine, but it can hardly keep an 176-episode show interesting throughout. Eventually, I felt that characters like Data, Picard, Worf or Q were being wasted here.
On the other hand, DS9 seemed to get everything right. Granted, the first two seasons were a bit slow, but I felt they were really going somewhere with the rebuild and turmoil on Bajor, as well as the tension with the Cardassians. But, when they introduced the Maquis and the Dominion the show went from good to awesome. Not to mention that it had one of the best casts of characters ever seen on TV. Sisko, Kira, Garak, Dukat, Odo, Quark, Nog, Bashir, O'Brien, Worf, Dax, Weyoun, Martok, Rom, Damar… They were all so well developed and you could actually feel how every character kept growing till the end of the show.
I know many will disagree, but I believe that Voyager was a somewhat better show than TNG. Yes, the plots and the enemies were terrible (whoever thought those Kazons were a good idea?) as well as most of the cast, but Janeway, Tuvok and especially the Doctor somehow kept my interest going. And I really felt the show became a notch better at the end of season three. They removed Kes, introduced Seven of Nine and made a new threat out of the Borg. All very smart decisions which somehow seemed to have added something to the dynamic of the plot and the characters. Then again, there might be a bit of nostalgia talking here since it was the first Star Trek show I've seen.
and it was really interesting and entertaining watching it!
Yup, it was. Still is.
I started rewatching last week in fact, it holds up to its repeat viewings very well, especially all the foreshadowing and nuances you miss the first time or three. Doesn't really kick into high gear until season 2, but once Sheriden arrives, its pretty consistently great.
i never really had an opertunity to see voyager or ds9. you've peaked my interest green hair
every trek is unique, with its goods and bads. ive really only gravitated towards the series with the Enterprise, however. Yes, I did forget to mention TAS, although I'm not that interested in it.
The animated series is like, the original series season 4. It had all the same writers, actors, and carried over some of the old plots (like the follow up Tribbles episode.) It even had a catgirl!
While it IS its own entity, it fits pretty cozily into TOS.
Yes, I did forget to mention TAS, although I'm not that interested in it.
TAS was really great. They had a great writing staff, and they kept most of the actors who played their characters in TOS, except for Walter Koenig. Not to mention that they used the aspect of animation so well. This allowed them to add two new members to the crew with non-human or Vulkan features. A Caitian feline female named M'Ress, and an Edosian navigator with six limbs named Arex. Not to mention that it gave a more outrageous and other-worldly feel and look to the episodes. Some of the episodes were continuations of those from TOS, and some characters made reappearances, like Sarek, Harry Mudd, Koloth or Kor. Also, some important things were introduced in TAS, like the holodeck and Kirk's middle name being Tiberius.
Many see it as a continuation of the five-year mission, which actually never got completed since TOS got canceled.
Edit: What Robby said.
@RobbyBevard:
TOS was best. Next Gen had its fair share of good episodes, but despite running longer, it never quite hit the consistent highs of TOS. DS9 was good after they'd set up for a couple years. Voyager was trash pretty much immediately,
Voyager had some great episodes, most notably involving the borg.
and I never bothered with Enterprise past the pilot episode.
I gave up before the intro theme ended. And what the hells up with the main captain archer? he looks like he should be running for governor of some bible lead state.
Well yeah. A Centari haircut on a wolf just looks weird.
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I don't think the centuris pull it off either to be honest. Even the vagina foreheads of Qo'noS are laughing.
You can argue up and down all day long between DS9 and B5, and thats fair enough, (given that DS9 later started copying what was working for B5) but to even pretend that Voyager or Enterprise were its superior?
DS9 and enterprise are just plain awful. Voyager on the other hand actually has a decent plot, good cast, story progression and even better graphics as well.
B5 had ongoing plot, a master plan, mysteries that were unveiled throughout the course of the show, characters that grew and changed, and an epic scale and scope. The music was fantastic, as were most of the lead actors, G'Kar and Londo especially. The romantic chemistry between Sheriden and Delenn was fantastic and one of my all time favorite romance stories, as a subplot! In general, relationships on B5 lasted more than one convenient episode. The writing was witty, emotional, and consistent (given that it has one writer for 90% of it.)
That show was nothing without G'kar and you know it.
The average episode isn’t neatly ended in the last 5 minutes, sometimes the goodguys lost, and aspects of the real world existed within it, like poverty, paychecks, dock workers, and fear of that which is different (being it telepath, dictatorship or alien). And the characters actually have sex!
But that's just too different from the federation to make a comparison, or at least a decent one. Keep in mind the only form of money of trading occurs between the ferengi.
Trek is fine for stand alone episodes. And there are some great ones. But aside from Riker growing a beard, there's almost no character development, bigger picture or plot, its kind of status quo. (Tho TOS movies, and DS9 were better about it.)
So Wesley didn't ascend to another higher state of being with 'The traveller' to explore time and space.
The thing about the various star trek episodes is that you follow the one most tailored to your needs. If you want to see a good plot beginning to end then go for voyager, if you want character progression and all over interesting dialogue then go with next generation. And if you want to torture people then make them watch a DS9 or enterprise marathon.
I love TNG, it is one of my favorite shows ever. I watched most of DS9 and thought it was decent, but Voyager lost me and I never watched Enterprise.
I can see how maybe some people wouldn't get into TNG. Maybe a bit too sterile? Optimistic? Preachy even? Definitely not one for the people who like dark sci-fi, I always thought of it as more of an ethical/philosophical adventure show.
Voyager had some great episodes, most notably involving the borg
Voyager killed the borg as a credible threat.
DS9 and enterprise are just plain awful.
There's absolutely nothing in voyager that can even begin to hope to come close to at some point in time perhaps aspire to be anywhere near as good as DS9 episodes like "In the Pale Moonlight", "Far Beyond the Stars" or "The Visitor".
Voyager on the other hand actually has a decent plot, good cast, story progression and even better graphics as well.That show was nothing without G'kar and you know it.But that's just too different from the federation to make a comparison, or at least a decent one. Keep in mind the only form of money of trading occurs between the ferengi.So Wesley didn't ascend to another higher state of being with 'The traveller' to explore time and space.
Voyager showed the worst tendancies of Trek with spurious solutions to problems with technobabble, and had the least likeable crew of any of the series. It was also the most consistently poorly written. Enterprise was terrible as well, but at least it had the virtue of starting to get better before it was cancelled thanks to manny coto's efforts at the death.
Voyager killed the borg as a credible threat.
When did this happen? Is this because of 7?
There's absolutely nothing in voyager that can even begin to hope to come close to at some point in time perhaps aspire to be anywhere near as good as DS9 episodes like "In the Pale Moonlight", "Far Beyond the Stars" or "The Visitor".
Voyager had tons of great episodes involving the borg, Q and the various other species that were superior, yet defeated.
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Voyager showed the worst tendancies of Trek with spurious solutions to problems with technobabble, and had the least likeable crew of any of the series.
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Really?
The only people on DS9 that were good were quark and sisco. And that was only when sisco actually left his comfy quarters to fight the dominion, or save the klingon empire.
Odo was blander than his facial features. And the rest of them were so sporadic in their roles that it was hard to get any form of bond.
It was also the most consistently poorly written. Enterprise was terrible as well, but at least it had the virtue of starting to get better before it was cancelled thanks to manny coto's efforts at the death.
Enterprise was just covering everything we already knew from the other series, but with an awful crew, boring direction and worse introduction than any series seen so far.
So Wesley didn't ascend to another higher state of being with 'The traveller' to explore time and space.
So a sudden decision that came out of nowhere in the last season of the series, contrary to the character's goals the entire time up until then, in the last couple minutes of a single episode, that had no foreshadowing, and no follow up at all, counts as as character growth? No, that's an asspull.
Ah, you don't like DS9 either. No wonder you don't like B5. What with the grit and realism and ongoing plot and characters that actually change and argue like people with real personalities and a war.
And yes, Janeway ruined the Borg as a credible threat, because they had to be incredibly weakened and dumbed down so she could consistently beat them week after week. Hell, Janeway was the worst Captain ever. Got her crew lost in the very first episode, do to an action of her choosing, and along the way had multiple opportunities to get them back immediately by spending a few seconds interacting with Q. And she MURDERED Tuvix, who was a far better character than either Tuvok or Neelix were seperately.
I liked TOS and TNG. Never really got into DS9, Voyager was so-so and Enterprise was really really bad. Enterprise was a show that tries way too hard and never provide anything new. Prehaps if they hire better writers and kick Braga/Bermen out, Enterprise would have ran for 7 years (Why just 7 years anyway?) but now I wished it would have been cancelled over 20 episodes.
This is one of those things that stems from preferences rather than there being a solid answer/conclusion.
I prefer Voyager and Next generation as opposed to the others, probably because they aren't tied to any positions as with the others. They are explorers and the adventure/plot shows it. Every episode was just so different and fresh with a whole variety of species, fights and plot twists. DS9 on the other hand is the same old story day in and day out with hardly any change.
Most of the series can be summarised with: Oh no the dominion are going to attack! insert easy solution
We are safe now, but next week it will most likely happen all over again.
awaits next attack
Lol at Tuvix.
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The only people on DS9 that were good were quark and sisco. And that was only when sisco actually left his comfy quarters to fight the dominion, or save the klingon empire.
Odo was blander than his facial features. And the rest of them were so sporadic in their roles that it was hard to get any form of bond.
DS9 on the other hand is the same old story day in and day out with hardly any change.
Most of the series can be summarised with: Oh no the dominion are going to attack! insert easy solution
We are safe now, but next week it will most likely happen all over again.
Did you actually watch ds9.
@RobbyBevard:
So a sudden decision that came out of nowhere in the last season of the series, contrary to the character's goals the entire time up until then, in the last couple minutes of a single episode, that had no foreshadowing, and no follow up at all, counts as as character growth? No, that's an asspull.
Ah, you don't like DS9 either. No wonder you don't like B5. What with the grit and realism and ongoing plot and characters that actually change and argue like people with real personalities and a war.
And yes, Janeway ruined the Borg as a credible threat, because they had to be incredibly weakened and dumbed down so she could consistently beat them week after week. Hell, Janeway was the worst Captain ever. Got her crew lost in the very first episode, do to an action of her choosing, and along the way had multiple opportunities to get them back immediately by spending a few seconds interacting with Q. And she MURDERED Tuvix, who was a far better character than either Tuvok or Neelix were seperately.
Archer was worst then Janesway. The episode "A Night in Sickbay" serves a good example of just how worst he is. In this episode we are suppose to be mad at the alians, they did not warn Archer of the virus in the planet's atmoshpere that got his dog sick and ate in front in them; forgetting the events in "Vox Sola". For the rest of the episode we have to watch Archer bitch and whine like a child, yell at people, throw a temper and threats to gas the alian race over his sick dog instead of simply apologizing and take care of his crews. Plus why did he even bring his dog down? Why would he not hold his dog on leash and make sure he does not piss on any trees? Plus they wanted the Plasma Injectors, they should have brought an enginner with them instead.
Did you actually watch ds9.
Yes, but there are only about four episode that are memorable.
(worth mentioning)
I'm seriously shocked anyone could rate janeway's crew below sisco's.
Enterprise works better if you just assume its an extended Quantum Leap for Sam Beckett, and he's putting something or another right that once went wrong.
Most of the series can be summarised with: Oh no the dominion are going to attack! insert easy solution
We are safe now, but next week it will most likely happen all over again.
awaits next attack
The Dominion barely appeared till the fourth season. They only had a few intermittent episodes before that, and were only even rumored in the first season. Nevermind when things came to the ship, they had holodeck adventures, traveled in time, or went out with the Defiant to other places.
Granted, season 4-7 were entirely Dominion War, but they weren't any more common before that than a random Klingon or Ferangi episode was.
I get the impression you didn't actually watch the show much.
And to shake things up further….
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I need a place where I can actually list the DS9 episodes. Its a little hard to give an example of the episodes without having episode names to go by, unless you don't mind me breaking down the plot and leaving you to solve which one it is.
About Voyager, it was suppose the be a risky show but they changed their minds and ruined it. Had they made it risky and had the alliance become formed, the show would've been good. But what happened at the episode "Alliance" showed us that Star Trek refused to change, and that it was doomed to be a same old Star Trek we all knew.
What happened in that episode?
Janesway and her crews realized that one small federation ship that was so far from federation space and that they can't stand against the lawless Kazon that they decided to create an alliance with the Kazon and the Trabe to form an rough around the edge federation and had that happened, we would have 4 seasons of Voyager creating a quarant-wide federation that would help the Voyager go back home without any problems.
But something happen, the Trabe backstabbed Jansway and her crews, Janesway broke up the alliance and made a pointed speech to the crew: "We are going to stick to the starfleet ideas" and the ship sails off like it always do.
That is like saying "Fuck you, we'er not going to change". Now we spent 4 years watching Voyager doing the same old stories that we see in pervious Trek episodes, we have to watch the repeatiniess of them trying to get home, only to screw up at the last moment. Terrific.
Yes, but there are only about four episode that are memorable.
(worth mentioning)
Emissary
Dax
Duet
Necessary Evil
Whispers
The Wire
Crossover
Past Tense
Improbable Cause
The Die is Cast
Way of the Warrior
Homefront
Hard Time
Nor the Battle to the Strong
Trials and Tribble-ations
Rapture
In Purgatory's Shadow
By Inferno's Light
In the Cards
Call to Arms
A Time to Stand
Rocks & Shoals
Statistical Probabilities
Far Beyond the Stars
In the Pale Moonlight
Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges
Yes, just a few.
Whereas Voyager only had a few episodes that would even come close to being memorable, such as year of hell.
I'm seriously shocked anyone could rate janeway's crew below sisco's.
Not just below, but well below. Secondary characters in DS9 such as Garak, Dukat and Damar, were more developed and more interesting then Janeway's crew could ever hope to be.
Stargate ran for like 14 years nonstop, and then another bunch in spinoffs. I never watched it, but it certainly must have had something going for it to last that long.
I thinks its like the longest running sci-fi series ever aside from british stuff like Red Dwarf and of course, Dr. Who.
@joekido:
About Voyager, it was suppose the be a risky show but they changed their minds and ruined it. Had they made it risky and had the alliance become formed, the show would've been good. But what happened at the episode "Alliance" showed us that Star Trek refused to change, and that it was doomed to be a same old Star Trek we all knew.
Considering the entire initial premise was that it was a Starfleet crew intermingled with a rogue crew and all the tension that would provide… until the entire crew was buddy buddy by like, the third episode....
Yes, just a few.
What was the name of the two parter where the went back in time and had to become part of a massive uprising to keep the timeline straight, down to Sisko taking the identity of a man that was recorded to die? That was great stuff.
Whereas Voyager only had a few episodes that would even come close to being memorable, such as year of hell.
Considering that at the end of the episode, they fixed it so that it never happened or had any actual repercussions… and that the "year" was actually only two episodes... could have been a great season long arc otherwise.
@RobbyBevard:
What was the name of the two parter where the went back in time and had to become part of a massive uprising to keep the timeline straight, down to Sisko taking the identity of a man that was recorded to die? That was great stuff.
That was the indeed excellent "Past Tense".
@RobbyBevard:
Considering that at the end of the episode, they fixed it so that it never happened or had any actual repercussions… and that the "year" was actually only two episodes... could have been a great season long arc otherwise.
Hey voyager had bigger fish to fry like janeway & da vinci rescuing a computer.
@RobbyBevard:
What was the name of the two parter where the went back in time and had to become part of a massive uprising to keep the timeline straight, down to Sisko taking the identity of a man that was recorded to die? That was great stuff.
Past Tense.
I'd say that my favorite episode of DS9 was probably In the Pale Moonlight.
We had seen Sisko's dark side before, when he dealt with the Maquis and Eddington, but this brought it to a whole new level. Not to mention that his interaction with Garak was brilliant. And those scenes where he spoke directly to the camera and the audience where excellent stuff.
This episode showed us what Janeway and Voyager were supposed to be. A Starfleet captain and a Federation ship who were cornered and desperate, and were prepared to do everything to survive. Alas, they decided to play it safe, too safe.
Also, you gotta love the episode which has it's title taken directly from Tim Burton's Batman.
@Green:
I'd say that my favorite episode of DS9 was probably In the Pale Moonlight.
We had seen Sisko's dark side before, when he dealt with the Maquis and Eddington, but this brought it to a whole new level. Not to mention that his interaction with Garak was brilliant. And those scenes where he spoke directly to the camera and the audience where excellent stuff.
Same here. They reference this yet again in "Tacking into the Wind", one of the final episodes, when Sisko pretty much gives the order
! to worf to get rid of Gowron.
On a side note, some friends of my dad's who are musicians appeared in episodes of DS9, actually playing live jazz. There was some holodeck program that they pulled up every now and then.
Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible. - Frank Zappa
The away missions were the best parts of DS9. Though their are a few exceptions that revolve around specific crew members. Oh and lets not forget some of the defiant battles.
episodes names elude me but:
the changeling takes the form of a klingon to help ensure the war between the federation and the klingon empire.
the discovery of kaylesses batliff.
the joint away mission between cisco and the jem hadar.
the episode where Quark sells himself. (his body)
One called the visitor.
another between kira and a dying patient.
On a side note, some friends of my dad's who are musicians appeared in episodes of DS9, actually playing live jazz. There was some holodeck program that they pulled up every now and then.
Haha, that's awesome! The holodeck program was a recreation of a 1960s Las Vegas night club, which was run by a Frank Sinatra look-a-like named Vic Fontaine. Vic was a sentient hologram (just like the Doctor from Voyager) and a major character by the end of the show. He served as the crew's unofficial counselor and a guy you could always ask for advice. His appearances in the episodes were usually accompanied by a performance or two, usually of a Sinatra or a Dean Martin song.
dang. this isn't a 'general star trek discussion' this is "my favorites are good and your favorites are bad…"
come on people. every trek contributes to the whole of the story, regardless of whether its your favorite or not. I can appreciate all of them, though I may not consider them my favorite.
stating our opinions IS discussion.
I was disappointed with enterprise. not just because it sucked, but because the premise sounded so cool, and it could have been, but they went and ruined it.
The only Enterprise episodes that impressed me were the ones that featured actors or plot devices from other trek series (such as the finale and the mirror universe 2-parter, I had always wondered where the Constitution-class Defiant went off to!!!)
Star Trek Voyager was alright. I loved the Borg episodes and the development of all the characters, mundane and recycled they might have seemed. The premise of being stranded far off from known space also made for some interesting new villains and aliens rather than the romulan-klingon obsession of tng or the bajoran-cardassian-ferengi obsession of DS9. On the other hand, the captain was predictable, the vulcan was predictable, the ship wasn't the Enterprise, and the aliens…well...to me, weren't as good as the klingon-romulan-cardassian folk from other shows. I think after DS9 they ought to have come up with a better premise for a show. Two previous treks already had starships with voyages of their own. And come on- ANY Enterprise looks and IS better than the Voyager. So it can land. Whoop-de-frickin doo.
Star Trek Deep Space Nine was interesting. It was one of the last treks I had seen for the first time, after being introduced first to TOS then TNG and Voyager, then Enterprise. I gotta say, the show was fairly brilliant in the sheer number of characters in it. Unlike Next Gen. or Voyager, which had single digit casts, this one had a NUMBER of characters- most of whom were funny or interesting or likable. The plot of the show was nice to have- perspectives from people living on a stationary space station as opposed to boldly going. As it turned out, it wasn't nearly as boring as it sounded like to me. I'm not really a Worf fan, but his addition to the crew was good, and the U.S.S. Defiant was a cool ship! I adored the character of Dr. Bashir, and identified with him the most.
Star Trek The Next Generation was pure gold, in my opinion. The characterization was revolutionary and not merely a repeat of TOS as they could have attempted (throwing a scotsman, vulcan, black chick and an asian pilot together) which was nice to see. Sure, Wesley Crusher was a pain to listen to but hey! He more or less disappeared after the 3rd season! Characters such as Troi, Data, Guinan, Q, and of course our good captain Jean-Luc Picard were very INTERESTING characters. Some of my favorite TNG episodes are where Picard loses the firewall and lets the viewer in on his past. The action in the show was good when it was employed and the design of the Enterprise-D was different, but still elegant and beautiful. The films that followed the series were all excellent (except Insurrection, which to me felt more like an episodic plot than a film). Overall, best star trek made with the exception of...
Star Trek: the Original Series. First trek I was introduced to as a boy of 8. The stories were all fantastic and plot seemed to be the driving point of the show, rather than placing character development as a high priority. Even so, everybody became familiar to the viewer and everyone had something special to offer. And come on- who can really hate on James T. Kirk?! He was a childhood hero of mine. Dr. McCoy follows him as a really special character to me, as I myself am from the American south and have a few relatives that act like him a lot. Sure, this trek may have been the most overdramatic and corny, sure the special effects are laughable by today's standards (and even those of the 90s) but you know what? TOS will always be what I think of when I think "Star Trek" and it will be my favorite forever.
The Motion Picture was a nice try but a sore disappointment (and an utter failure to compete with Star Wars, as it was intended to do). The Wrath of Khan was a beautiful film itself, not just a good trek movie. First one I ever saw, too. The Search for Spock was good, although a bit sad here and there. The Voyage Home was the funniest-and lightest- trek movie. Not bad, but the whole saving the world with whales thing is a bit of a stretch to me. The Final Frontier was a bit more like an episode to me than a movie, and it frankly has its problems. The Undiscovered Country was excellent and was a very good send-off for the TOS cast.
The 2009 Star Trek remake...blew my mind, and made me happy to be a Trek fan amidst all my friends who had laughed at me all these years for being one. Because of this movie (my personal favorite trek movie) they now understand. 
For anyone into TNG I found something I had read 3 years ago, in celebration of that trek's 20th anniversary. EW's top ten episodes.
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20057754,00.html
how did enterprise end again?
