I almost caught up and a fucking hiatus was announced…
Hunter x Hunter
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Yeah that'll kill all interest .
I acualy wanted to read all the chapters I missed (right after Knucle was introduced) once this arc finishes . Yeah :getlost:
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the hiatus has been around for years, actually I believe since the beginning of this manga
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@Snarky:
Do you even read this series?
yeah but for whatever reason I thought he was talking about the author of the series.
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Where's that Korean doujin? I swear to God it might as well be an autobiography.
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Where's that Korean doujin? I swear to God it might as well be an autobiography.
I think you're talking about this:
http://apforums.net/showthread.php?t=24818&highlight=Togashi -
Even after all that has happened, the picture of yupi laying there looks so pathetic and sad. He looks helpless, coughing up blood..
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Uhm he's dead .
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How long until next chapter after hiatus?
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Nobody knows . It could even be a year or more .
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mmmm let's randomly guess, i'll say two months and a half.
The guy has to finish this arc, 10 chapters seems sufficient to me.
So two months and half >> 10 chapter >> Looooong hiatus again…
sigh, if there wereno hiatuses i'm sure HxH would be far beyond belch and narugay's popularity. -
I hope Togashi can actually finish this series before he kicks the bucket. Why the hell does he keep going on hiatus? I can get over once, but this often….. not to mention how long.
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He's spent nearly half the time he's been doing this series on leave . We could have been at Chapter 540 at least by now , not 310 .
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man, No Maam is such a good poster
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As far as I know he's been absent for like 260 instalments of Jump since it began . You can deny it but ….why would you ?
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@No:
As far as I know he's been absent for like 260 instalments of Jump since it began . You can deny it but ….why would you ?
I swear I read something about Togashi saying he would rather be drawing doujinshi than working on his manga.
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i'm not denying anything
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everyone except you <3
aww how sweet :wub:
wait a second i see what you did there!!!!!!!!!
runs home crying
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Why the hell does he keep going on hiatus?
Picture of Togashi taken yesterday.
Jacko, yes that one. During every hiatus the thread should be locked and that should be the only thing viewable.
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As long as the quality of the story doesn't suffer from it I'm all for these hiatuses if it prevents Togashi's storytelling skills from a burnout syndrom.
As a matter of fact I'd be happy if Oda would perhaps do something like this to recharge his batteries because ever since Sabaody was over the quality of One Piece was decreasing culminating in this piece of crap that is called the war arc. :getlost:
Of course when I say bad, than I'm not thinking Naruto or Bleach bad. Not even Fairy Tail bad. It's still far better than anything what these stories have become but still not on the level it once was. :(
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I hope Ivotas is ironic…..the Marine HQ arc is the best shonen manga arc ever made by human.
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Help me guys, I am trying to figure out if Ivotas is seriously joking or jokingly serious? Is he trying to begin a flame war or is it his honest opinion?
I atleast agree with you if an Oda hiatus could increase the quality more than it already is. But I'm afraid more would be so awesomely dangerous it could endanger the existance of the human species.
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Actually Ivotas, I'm gonna have to disagree.
I say this only because I heard the man himself say 9 months prior to the war that he had ideas for two panels scenes one after the other. Originally, when we still weren't entirely sure where he was heading, I thought he meant some of the amazing spreads we got in ID, but that obviously wasn't the case. That is to say, even though the narrative might have been foggy, he had the big picture ideas (literally and figuratively) well in his mind all while juggling SW.
What I will agree with you on, is that recently, it hasn't felt like I'm reading OP. I'd say it was a tiny crack that began around the start of the war and grew into a gaping hole over the course of the war and recently has become even bigger.
I couldn't put my finger on it since there were still aspects of the war that were exciting, surprising and moving, all classic OP, but it was still there. And now that we've been in the flashback (the overall importance of which I do NOT doubt) I've come to realize it's simply the crew, hence my lamentation in the chapter thread. Their presence, that is to say, Oda's take on his universe THROUGH them is missing and try as he might, no zany cast of characters can replace them.
Maybe that's not how it is for you, but for me, it definitely feels like some magic is missing and there's no doubt in my mind it has to do with the crew.
All as the bastard himself planned.
I wouldn't mind if Oda took a break, but I don't think he'd ever forgive himself if he did.
Furthermore, I'm sorry, but if it takes four years to prep a weekly shonen manga, then breaks in between that reach upwards of over a year, maybe you shouldn't be writing weekly shonen manga. Which is why while I don't take issue with an author taking decades to finish a series cough stephenking cough if you're going to work specifically for a publication that promises weekly entertainment and you can't deal with that, find another line of work or medium to tell your story.
I'm going to search through the past few months of his comments and tell you how many of them are about playing goddamn video games.
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Help me guys, I am trying to figure out if Ivotas is seriously joking or jokingly serious? Is he trying to begin a flame war or is it his honest opinion?
I atleast agree with you if an Oda hiatus could increase the quality more than it already is. But I'm afraid more would be so awesomely dangerous it could endanger the existance of the human species.
No, I'm not joking around. Of course I realize that everybody else does not agree with me but that won't change that overall I was rather disappointed by the quality of the story.
@ Greg: I understand what you're trying to say but that's no my gripe with it, if it is than it's only a minor one.
There's really much and large chunks of stuff that happened (plot and narration skill) wise that didn't really sit well with me. I hope you understand that I'm not going to list them here because a) I can't remember all of them from the top of my head and b) it would generate a large talkback I'm not really interested in because if people like how it was than it's personally fine with me.
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What you didnt like ?
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What you didnt like ?
As I stated in the edits of my previous post, it's too much to write it down here. And also it's pointless to bother explaining because it would only attract much of unconstructive bash posts of people that are not able to tolerate that there's someone that thinks that Oda has fucked up big time (going by the standards we're used from him).
Not that I have a problem if people bash me (that's what my PM inbox is there for) but I don't think that it would do the forums good since I sense that it would be just a flame war in the making. So I hope you'll understand if I do not more but simply express my disappointment with it.
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Maybe you guys listing why you like the arc would help.
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5/6- Happy New Year. Sorry I've kept you all waiting. My goal for this year is to write as much as I can.
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11- DQ9
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19- DQ9 (states he's been playing for 140 hours and is only Level 11)
20- Says he was busy reading JUMP and forgot to think of a comment
21/22- Says he visited his son's open house day at school and wishes he could start over from elementary school. Great role model/father huh?
What a guy.
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I keep wanting to get back into this. Has he finished that terribly boring Ant Queen arc or whatever it was? Or brought back Leorio and the other one? Those two were awesome.
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He's at the tale end of the Chimera Ant arc. It really looks like it'll be wrapped up next go around.
Whenever that is.
But boring ant arc? Its been pretty interesting. Just… stretched out for a couple years too long due to the hiatuses. If it had run at a proper uninterupted pace and ended.. 4 years ago... people would be much cooler with it.
19- DQ9 (states he's been playing for 140 hours and is only Level 11)
How the hell is that even possible.
A for the OP war arc… there's like, 80 other threads for OP where that discussion can be had. But yeah, Oda missed a few steps during that arc.
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Ivotas, I hear you and agree…to an extent. The pay-off in the war was worth it. And there were more than enough DO-N scenes sprinkled throughout that made it interesting. Plus I was INCREDIBLY happy when he showed us the scale of certain enemies for the future. Like when Mihawk cut....uh....the ocean?....in half.
I have nothing to complain about and yet...like you...I feel lacking.
For me, 75% of that can be attributed to the lack of the crew. The other 25% is EXTREMELY difficult to put my finger on. But I think part of it is, Oda was also holding back. Knowing him, there are some incredible ideas that he just wasn't ready to use yet and maybe even some things he's holding for the final battle, whatever form it may take.
That is to say, I don't think it's from him being worn out or even needing more time, I personally think it was a deliberate choice. While I think many MANY fans (certainly his target audience) were blown away, you and I have been left, not disappointed but....maybe feeling that something was missing, but in the end I have a feeling we'll be glad this war was portrayed as it was.
Sorry robby. It's rare these days for me to get Ivotas.
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Eh. Hunter is on hiatus, not like there's anythign to talk about where its concerned anyway.
I think the big problem with the war is… Oda was showing us the endgame players... but instead of being the fourth quarter final all out... he really, really was holding back on all of them so their full abilities could be shown later and just giving us a halftime show preview. The first couple chapters of the war showed what all the powerhouses could do... and then it turned into a series of off camera stalemate skirmishes with no effect or conclusion one way or the other, while Luffy spent 20 or 30 chapters just running forward.
Some epicness along the way, (Mihawk's one attack tells me that his final battle with Zoro in 10 years is going to break islands) but combined with Impel Down, it was almost a solid year of just running combined with "no, can't show this guy at full power yet..." and "Nope, Luffy can't do this, he needs a crapton of assistance" which in some ways was for the best, because otherwise we'd have been there for 3 years. Stuff happened and there was payoff, but there was a lot, a LOT of "nope, not time to show this yet."
Which is kind of aggrivating.
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New (strongest) Characters displaying their powers in fights - checked
Character Development - Ace, WB, Akainu, Crocodile, Luffy, Blackbeard - checked
Strategy,Sengoku's plan, WB's hidden ship , WB vs John Giant - checked
Emotional moments - WB hugging Squardo, Ace - Luffy, WB dying - checkedI can write loads of endless arguments to prove why this arc was the most epic of all..much better than brook farting or SHs getting fights and becoming repetitive..
The sales numbers and the endless forums' discussions during that time speak for themselves…The chimera ant arc is still intresting up to chapter 221 where I am.
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Oda was holding back, yet the arc shown us the potential of the battles in the future, and made me can't wait to read them.
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Hmmmmm I can see what you're talking about. I personally don't see any signs of decreasing quality, but that's maybe becaue I am still bonly on my first read.
I only commented because I thought 'piece of crap' was a little too powerfull.
And if you feel the need to write it all down, feel free to pm it to me if you don't want to make it public. I always say you learn far more from negative critics than from positive.
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you learn far more from negative critics than from positive.
I think they are equal, as long as they are as objective and accurate as possible.
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not exactly sure why all the one piece war talk here, but going to say i do like how he did the war compared to other series. goign to just copy paste robby's part here…
...Oda was showing us the endgame players... but instead of being the fourth quarter final all out... he really, really was holding back on all of them so their full abilities could be shown later and just giving us a halftime show preview. The first couple chapters of the war showed what all the powerhouses could do... and then it turned into a series of off camera stalemate skirmishes with no effect or conclusion one way or the other, while Luffy spent 20 or 30 chapters just running forward.
and i liked that. we saw as said their epicness in their intro's basically or an attack here or there. But again most left off screen to our imagination. The problem is that most peoples imagination leads to them thinking the two characters just sat and talked and drank tea until their next showing. But I prefer this not showing off their amazing skills and epic battles fully until later. This story is about Luffy, not the people at thsi war, we will get to them sooner or later, and i like the power hinted to them yet still much mystery and wondering how strong they really are and what they all can do with their power/fruit.
also like how it isn't the stupid thing that happens in some manga like say dragonball if say Frieza fights and seems amazing then mentions he is only in his frist of 4 forms, or like in naruto when the 15 year olds beat itachi and his buddy, yet they ended up being clones that were like 20% of their chakra. i hate when shows do shit like that. there was no pulling back punches in thsi war (cept garp), most just happened to be background noise and not the focal of this story which is Luffy.
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@ Greg: As I said, I won't be writing everything down. But rest assured that it has absolutely nothing to do with the lack of the crew. NOTHING.
And Nami can go to hell anyways as far as I'm concerned.^^
And if you feel the need to write it all down, feel free to pm it to me if you don't want to make it public. I always say you learn far more from negative critics than from positive.
Lol, ok noted you too in case I should feel like typing it down.;)
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Actual civil OP conversation.. and I find it here, by accident.
The war had to be done the way it was, some things were rushed, others not well explored, but as a half-way mark "thank you to the readers," Oda had to relinquish some liberties in his otherwise planned story, in order to keep readers on their feet.
As we can tell by the current flash-back, the story has returned to its normal pace, I think this high-low technique is what keeps One Piece interesting, whereas other mangas, do not know how to filter their content and keep battles from taking the enjoyment out of future content.
Examples I can think of, from the top of my head would be: Rock Lee in Naruto, and Ichigo vs Kenpachi in Bleach.
The current content in both mangas, pales in comparison to the aforementioned arcs, and lessens the impact of more "important" enemies. -
The disapointing bits was for me mostly Sengoku and Garp . Especialy after Sengoku's "anouncement" and sleeve rolling , they stil only stand around and then finaly when they have a battle it happens offscreen completely .
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As I stated in the edits of my previous post, it's too much to write it down here. And also it's pointless to bother explaining because it would only attract much of unconstructive bash posts of people that are not able to tolerate that there's someone that thinks that Oda has fucked up big time (going by the standards we're used from him).
Not that I have a problem if people bash me (that's what my PM inbox is there for) but I don't think that it would do the forums good since I sense that it would be just a flame war in the making. So I hope you'll understand if I do not more but simply express my disappointment with it.
LOL you better watch your back saying something about their god.
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The war had to be done the way it was, some things were rushed, others not well explored, but as a half-way mark "thank you to the readers,"
Pretty much how I feel. I felt it could have been more but that means what we'll see in the end will be all the more impressive.
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@robbybedfart:
Eh. Hunter is on hiatus, not like there's anythign to talk about where its concerned anyway.
I think the big problem with the war is… Oda was showing us the endgame players... but instead of being the fourth quarter final all out... he really, really was holding back on all of them so their full abilities could be shown later and just giving us a halftime show preview. The first couple chapters of the war showed what all the powerhouses could do... and then it turned into a series of off camera stalemate skirmishes with no effect or conclusion one way or the other, while Luffy spent 20 or 30 chapters just running forward.
Some epicness along the way, (Mihawk's one attack tells me that his final battle with Zoro in 10 years is going to break islands) but combined with Impel Down, it was almost a solid year of just running combined with "no, can't show this guy at full power yet..." and "Nope, Luffy can't do this, he needs a crapton of assistance" which in some ways was for the best, because otherwise we'd have been there for 3 years. Stuff happened and there was payoff, but there was a lot, a LOT of "nope, not time to show this yet."
Which is kind of aggrivating.
I said the EXACT samethings in those chapter threads. I got bashed along with some others because Oda is God. LMAO This even proves my point against Lion even more. Look at Ivotas. Lmao
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Actual civil OP conversation.. and I find it here, by accident.
The chapter thread is plagued by a syndrome called "That's luffy's mom!" "No, It's Ivankov's spech pattern!"… itis.
I haven't been an one piece fan for as long as most of you (Duel on Banaro Island was when I caught up), but trully, the waiting between chapters of the war was less excitting than the other waiting between regular chapters. It took the shape of a diferent manga, mainly because it lacked 8/9 of it's main cast.
In the mid of the war it was like "look around they are the top fighters, and will only fight full strenght here off panel!" It got old pretty quickly. Trough I feelt somewhat for Luffy's predicament, when you rush ahead to a goal not only because it's a timmed mission, but because you CAN'T posibily take down every (Any!) enemy that you encounter, that feeling of hopelesness was strongly planted on those pages.
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That is to say, I don't think it's from him being worn out or even needing more time, I personally think it was a deliberate choice. While I think many MANY fans (certainly his target audience) were blown away, you and I have been left, not disappointed but….maybe feeling that something was missing, but in the end I have a feeling we'll be glad this war was portrayed as it was.
I have to agree with this.
One thing that many people are realizing is Oda's attention to detail. We see a fine example in this flashback where there are actually 3 cups on the table when forming the brotherhood between Luffy, Ace, and Sabo. We can see the hint of a shadow earlier on in the manga when that scene was flashbacked.
I would imagine that creating the War at this point in the story was very very difficult for Oda as there were many characters whom were previously mentioned (some in the slightest) that were revealed in the war. There were alot of NEW and EXCITING being brought to the reader while at the same time following the purpose of this war. With that being said, Oda had to take into deep consideration who and what he wanted to show and how much he wanted to show it/them, keeping in mind he has plans for such who's and what's in the story and regulating what we are allowed to see without creating a loose end or setting up an inconsistency. Also we have to keep in mind that the mood of this war is different from what we may have been exposed to as this became an unsuccessful rescue arc.
Naturally these would bog down some of the qualities we are use to seeing and enjoying. IMO, I think Oda did a pretty good job keeping it together throughout this war and any shortcomings realized are definitely forgivable. As this flashback comes to and end and we start seeing this new Era really come into play, I am sure this will get back to a normal sense.
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I said the EXACT samethings in those chapter threads. I got bashed along with some others because Oda is God. LMAO This even proves my point against Lion even more. Look at Ivotas. Lmao
Hurry up and write your conclusion so I can beat you already.
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As long as the quality of the story doesn't suffer from it I'm all for these hiatuses if it prevents Togashi's storytelling skills from a burnout syndrom.
As a matter of fact I'd be happy if Oda would perhaps do something like this to recharge his batteries because ever since Sabaody was over the quality of One Piece was decreasing culminating in this piece of crap that is called the war arc. :getlost:
Of course when I say bad, than I'm not thinking Naruto or Bleach bad. Not even Fairy Tail bad. It's still far better than anything what these stories have become but still not on the level it once was. :(
I just won the thread…:ninja: