First of all, yes I know this is fiction and it doesn t have to make too much sense but I would like to have it explained
Zoro new asura ability, his spirit take a form of three heads and nine arms but if it just his spirt how does that make him stronger?
Also about Luffy 3rd gear. How does the air in the bones come out the lungs when he exhales and why does he shrink?
I don t understand sanji Diable Jambe, why is he and his clothes immune against the heat.
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Well for Zoro it's that he's channeling his spirit to increase his strength and speed so it looks like he has 6 arms and three heads so you don't know where the attacks are coming from since he can already cut steel he's fine, think Dragon Ball Z whenever someone powers up
No idea on the air coming outta Luffy's lungs or the shrinking but it's funny
And for Sanji supposedly his training as a chef makes him immune to heat since he's so used to it, no idea on the Clothes but Oda has also just said that Sanji's heart burns even hotter so he can take it, and if you read him fighting Absalom he goes crazy exploding
It isn't really supposed to make sense, its a shonen manga, and adding a scientific explanation, doesn't make it as fun to read imo.
What the person before me says, basically sums up anything that will be said in this entire thread though.
don't take care of this details, indeed it's like that in almost all mangas. there isn't logic
Zoro new asura ability, his spirit take a form of three heads and nine arms but if it just his spirt how does that make him stronger?
6 arms… 9 swords - 3 heads = 6 arms
Its an illusion. it doesnt make his attacks more powerful it just makes them harder to dodge. There is also a slight terror effect on his oponent that is messing with their minds.
Also about Luffy 3rd gear. How does the air in the bones come out the lungs when he exhales and why does he shrink?
Im not getting the question… are you mixing up gear 2 and gear 3? the shrinkage is due to the cold.. 
(if you dont get the joke nevermind)
I don t understand sanji Diable Jambe, why is he and his clothes immune against the heat.
He is a cook. he explained this in the same chapter as he joined. you cant be a cook if you are afraid of fire… and he probably has special heatresistant clothes designed for him or something.
Air comes out of Luffy lungs and he shrinks because he"s made of rubber
Zoro can create the illusion of extra arms and heads because of either the cursed sword or his spirit
Sanji can create fire with his foot because his speed creates so much friction.
If that doesn"t make sense to you it"s time to follow life through an alternative sense of logic. If it looks cool it"s possible. That is shounen science
Zoro new asura ability, his spirit take a form of three heads and nine arms but if it just his spirt how does that make him stronger?
it's the other way round. he got stronger and the image of asura reflects that.
Its an illusion. it doesnt make his attacks more powerful it just makes them harder to dodge. There is also a slight terror effect on his oponent that is messing with their minds.
i think him using asura to dissipate kaku's attack shows that his power really did increase.
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Just adding my two cents here. Clothes in Op so far seem to be a general extension of the wearer. For example, often when Luffy stretches/inflates himself, his clothes clothes stretch along with him; as do the clothes of zoan df users. Other examples include the likes of Mr 1, Ms Double Finger and Bellamy, where their clothes transformed along with their body. So basically, if the user of a technique is undamaged by it, generally their clothes aren't as well.
Anyways for the most part, I agree with Rootbeer (except about the cursed sword thing).
What the…? Holy smurf am I slow! Until this statement of yours I never even realized that an octopus is actually serving octopusballs. Talk about not seeing the forest because of too many trees. facepalm
Asura wasn't a powerup.
Wave your hand in front of your face rapidly and watch the image. Though it's a blur, you see an afterimage of where your hand was, right?
That's what Asura was. Zoro moved so rapidly that it appeared that there was 3 heads and six arms. Kaku couldn't dodge it and got sliced open.
As for Gear 3rd, your bones are relatively hollow. They're filled with yellow and red marrow. It's in the spongy red and yellow marrow that Red and White Blood cells are produced. Luffy's bones are unique because his organ system is Rubber, which would make his blood rubber as well.
Since Gear 2nd and 3rd forces air in his bloodstream, the blood cells produced in his bones could easily travel to the cells in his lungs. Because of the gas exchange involved in respiration, it's actually necessary. Without going too deeply into it, the body would take the oxygen to the lungs, where it would be distributed among the body, and then the byproduct (Carbon Dioxide) Expelled back through the mouth/nose.
Regular Fuusen is normal respiration. Because of Luffy's Rubber body, his lung capacity is probably ten times anyone else's in the series. That, and it owes part of his lung capacity to shonen logic. Bone Fuusen, however, forces a large amount of air into the bones, which is distributed among the bones in his body through the circulatory system, before being dispelled through his lungs.
As for Diamble Jambe, it's friction created by Sanji spinning his leg rapidly. And Flame Retardant cloth is everywhere.
I think his idea was, that One Piece got, let's say…. less logical in Enies Lobby...
In the earlier series, there always was a logical explanation, considering this is a Manga and Oda created his own world with it's own natural laws etc.
Now we have a spirit that comes out of nowhere, it "just is there because it is as it is". That is more of DBZ logic and not like One Piece was before.
In my opinion, the explanation of Soru was the worst throughout the whole series. I mean, okay, it is the same thing as before, Oda could say "in the world I created you can get incredibly fast if you step 10 times on one spot."
BUT:
The big question is, if being so fast is so easy, why doesn't everyone use this, why don't Zoro and Sanji use Soru, and why is it "A technique of the Marines"?
I hope you get my point, there's something like "shonen logic" but also "shonen unlogic".
Pre Water 7 One Piece mostly was built in "shonen logic" but now it becomes more and more "shonen unlogic".
i was under the impression that it was kicking the ground 10 times and not stepping on the same spot.
presumably they launch themselves when using soru rather then acctually speeding up their running. (i recall Luccis combination of geppou and soru to be a series of straights with some odd turns which to me suggests he cant turn unless he uses geppou+soru all over again)
In my opinion, the explanation of Soru was the worst throughout the whole series. I mean, okay, it is the same thing as before, Oda could say "in the world I created you can get incredibly fast if you step 10 times on one spot."
BUT:
The big question is, if being so fast is so easy, why doesn't everyone use this, why don't Zoro and Sanji use Soru, and why is it "A technique of the Marines"?
I hope you get my point, there's something like "shonen logic" but also "shonen unlogic".
Pre Water 7 One Piece mostly was built in "shonen logic" but now it becomes more and more "shonen unlogic".
When you start to run your speed starts increasing slowly to your maximum. To use soru they step ten times on the ground in less then a second so the body puts itself to its maximum speed much faster. Using soru is not so easy, it is the easiest technique that the cp9 learn but it requires lots of training because if have little control over it you will start crashing into things. Luffy so far can only use soru when he in gear 2nd.
I also agree that one piece lost a lot of logic, the craziest thing in one piece in my opinion is franky. I mean if he was that badly hurt how could he build himself into a cyborg and even that makes no sense he is a ship builder not a doctor, how does he know so much about human body that he can make his own respiratory system. I not saying one piece should realistic but I am just saying that during the water7 arc to enels arc things got a lot more crazier.
In my opinion, the explanation of Soru was the worst throughout the whole series. I mean, okay, it is the same thing as before, Oda could say "in the world I created you can get incredibly fast if you step 10 times on one spot."
BUT:
The big question is, if being so fast is so easy, why doesn't everyone use this, why don't Zoro and Sanji use Soru, and why is it "A technique of the Marines"?
Well, first, soru isn't easy – it's an advanced technique that you have to be ridiculously strong to master. So you don't see everyone on the seas running around doing it -- it'd be like everyone walking around carrying 100 kilo weights or something.
And as far as it being a "technique of the Marines," I don't think that's a huge problem either. Pirates seem to learn from whoever they encounter, or just drift along getting stronger by chance or dying. Zoro is probably the only one of the StrawHats to have had any formal weapons training: the others are all self-taught. In contrast, marines are strictly trained and go through all kinds of lessons etc. There's a well-developed military curriculum.
In a world where self-taught pirates vie with marines who go through institutional training, it makes sense to me that there would be military techniques.
But most importantly, I think, it's been shown that soru isn't something that only marines can learn (though they may be the only ones taught it) -- Luffy learned it from observing Lucci. And even earlier, Captain Kuro used a version of soru in his fight with Luffy over Usopp's hometown. But Kuro hasn't mastered it: he's able to go ridiculously fast, but unable to tell who he's attacking. (It's even mentioned by his crew that he starts using his technique by tapping his foot on the ground.)
In terms of the physics of soru, I think of it more as a really fast self-propulsion than a "tapping your foot to a song" kind of movement. Super-accelerated motion used to launch yourself into super-fast movement. Overall I guess it makes no less sense to me than being able to cut steel with a sword or light your foot on fire.
When you start to run your speed starts increasing slowly to your maximum. To use soru they step ten times on the ground in less then a second so the body puts itself to its maximum speed much faster. Using soru is not so easy, it is the easiest technique that the cp9 learn but it requires lots of training because if have little control over it you will start crashing into things. Luffy so far can only use soru when he in gear 2nd.
Did you consider that your body has to move to reach any speed, let alone the maximum?
Well, first, soru isn't easy – it's an advanced technique that you have to be ridiculously strong to master. So you don't see everyone on the seas running around doing it -- it'd be like everyone walking around carrying 100 kilo weights or something.
Well that's why I used Zoro and Sanji as examples…
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Wave your hand in front of your face rapidly and watch the image. Though it's a blur, you see an afterimage of where your hand was, right?
That's what Asura was. Zoro moved so rapidly that it appeared that there was 3 heads and six arms. Kaku couldn't dodge it and got sliced open.
Although that is a decent interpretation of Asura, I'd have to disagree with you. There is a philosophy that if you wish to beat someone, you have to have the desire to kill them to truly defeat them. Before Asura, Zoro only wanted to fight him because of the key (which, I might add, was the actual key to free Robin), not to seriously kill him. But after Kaku insulted her, Zoro filled with enough rage to emit an aura of Asura, which frightened Kaku enough to lower his guard and become beaten. It had nothing to do with moving one's body so fast that he had an afterimage. One, that would really hurt his neck and arms to keep that up for so long, even being as trained as him. Zoro's intensified rage was so pronounced, that it created the feeling of seeing the Goddess of Death and Destruction embodied in him, meaning he was serious enough to kill Kaku, unlike before. With this aura, Kaku was shaken up, so his Amenadachi was possibly not the same strength when he used against Zoro and was able to be dissapated by the attack, and was ultimately defeated.
As for Gear 3rd, your bones are relatively hollow. They're filled with yellow and red marrow. It's in the spongy red and yellow marrow that Red and White Blood cells are produced. Luffy's bones are unique because his organ system is Rubber, which would make his blood rubber as well.
Regular Fuusen is normal respiration. Because of Luffy's Rubber body, his lung capacity is probably ten times anyone else's in the series. That, and it owes part of his lung capacity to shonen logic. Bone Fuusen, however, forces a large amount of air into the bones, which is distributed among the bones in his body through the circulatory system, before being dispelled through his lungs.
Also a good explanation, but not for me to agree with. Firstly, do you know how hard it is to bite into your bone? It's impossible. Gear 3rd is created by Luffy biting into his thumb so he can gain access to his bloodstreams and blow air into that. His blood vessels expand with air and enlarge his body parts as he moves the air along his body. I do not know how he expels the air, because he can obviously talk while doing his, but it is possible that if he can be wounded enough so the air is eventually force out of his vessels, or maybe his mouth was bleeding and it came out of there at some point.
With this aura, Kaku was shaken up, so his Amenadachi was possibly not the same strength when he used against Zoro and was able to be dissapated by the attack, and was ultimately defeated.
From the comments and appearance, it seemed otherwise. The previous one was appearantly a demonstration, while the one used at the moment seemed to be to end the fight right away. Difference being the previous one was thin enough to be basically invsisble and spread over a larger area, while the one aimed at Zoro was concentrate, it was larger than Zoro himself and completely focused on him.
Also a good explanation, but not for me to agree with. Firstly, do you know how hard it is to bite into your bone? It's impossible. Gear 3rd is created by Luffy biting into his thumb so he can gain access to his bloodstreams and blow air into that. His blood vessels expand with air and enlarge his body parts as he moves the air along his body. I do not know how he expels the air, because he can obviously talk while doing his, but it is possible that if he can be wounded enough so the air is eventually force out of his vessels, or maybe his mouth was bleeding and it came out of there at some point.
Luffy does bite into his bone, first of all while bone is hard Luffy's is made of rubber which is why blunt attacks don't hurt him or he can stretch in the first place otherwise his bones would shatter every time he did something. And when he shouts out his Gear 3rd attack he calls it Bone Balloon in the first place. Air is added to add and since Bone is generally dense it gives it power as opposed to do just show which is what Lucci thought
About Zoros new "attack" which actually is an ability which opens up for new attacks..
First. Asura is a group of old demons from asia. And they are equal to Gods.
This is an actuall Asura, a real one Zoro shows and it´s "job" is to make you stronger. hat is what the old stories from india says.
And Luffy is made of rubber. so gera2 speeds up the bloodpressure and heartbeatings without lett he body taking damage- he is rubber which can hold the pressure. Gear3 is air in the body.
Hmm, this topic is just stupid.
Every manga has this kind of things…
First of all, yes I know this is fiction and it doesn t have to make too much sense but I would like to have it explained
Zoro new asura ability, his spirit take a form of three heads and nine arms but if it just his spirt how does that make him stronger?
Also about Luffy 3rd gear. How does the air in the bones come out the lungs when he exhales and why does he shrink?
I don t understand sanji Diable Jambe, why is he and his clothes immune against the heat.
1. did you see shanks using his spirit on wb's ship? looks like it makes him pretty strong to me.
2.it's luffy deal with it.
3.it's his soul that burns with passion, not his clothes. that's why.
