Personally I'm hoping for a circus themed Shichibukai though I know with the current members It seems unlikely. Lions and elephants plus our favorite clown pirate? Hehe.
Shichibukai Discussion Thread
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Among the Supernovas, there are few who is CERTAINLY wont be a Shichibukai
1. Kidd : His bad-ass, rebellious attitude just don't cut it to be working under the WG
2. Killer : If he's still with Kidd…
3. Drake : He's an ex-Marine, even if he wants to. They just won't allow it
4. Bonney : Seeing how she hates the WGm I doubt she'll take the offer if there is oneAs for the rest is up for debate since we don't know much about their background or character
1. Urouge : not much is known
2. Apoo : not much is known
3. Capone : not much is known
4. Hawkins : He's one of the few Supernovas seen taking out other pirates in the New World. So he might get an offer
5. Law : His last appearance shows him saying sumtin like "If there's a seat open, we'll take it". So theres a chance he'll take a Shichibukai offer -
Why is everyone talking as if we knew all the pirates from the first half of the grand line?
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Why is everyone talking as if we knew all the pirates from the first half of the grand line?
Well, certainly not ALL of 'em. But I think we know MOST of the really strong ones, if not all, and I think they're the ones that count. But I find the probability of having a Shichibukai from 1 of the 9 Supernovas is very high. Don't u think?
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Hmmmm,after reading some of these posts,two brand new characters for Shich woulnt be a bad idea.Oda could def come up with two awsome characters with awsome abilities.
And I would be upset if any supernova becomes a Shich..
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Well, certainly not ALL of 'em. But I think we know MOST of the really strong ones, if not all, and I think they're the ones that count. But I find the probability of having a Shichibukai from 1 of the 9 Supernovas is very high. Don't u think?
We (from the point of view of the Straw Hats) only know one path of the Grand Line, from all the paths the Straw Hats could have chosen when they left the Reverse Mountain. I'm sure there are strong pirates in all of those paths.
And I'm all for brand-new characters. Why recycle characters when Oda is creative enough to not need to do that?
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Kind of a tangent here, but I've always been wondering one thing:
Why didn't the government ever offer Luffy the chance to be a shichibukai?
- Before y'all crucify me, I'd like to make the point that in no way do I think Luffy would have accepted such a position. Nor do I lament the fact that Luffy never got an offer, I'm just wondering about the reason he never did.
The only time such an offer could have been made was during the Skypiea saga. Luffy defeated Croc, which made him get on the WG's radar, and Luffy hasn't declared war on the WG yet, so an alliance was still possible.
The reasons I can think of on the top of my head are:
1. Luffy was in sky island while the WG was trying to contact him, and by the time Luffy was finally able to be reached, Luffy declared war on the WG making such an alliance impossible.
2. Luffy's actions were not very impressive. While Luffy did beat Croc, that fact was hidden from most pirates and so Luffy wouldn't be so menacing. Taking down the rest of Baroque Works may not have been that impressive when comparing to the feats the other Shichibukai have accomplished.
3. Sengoku already knew Luffy was Dragon's son, so making him a Shichibukai was out of the question.
Any other thoughts out there?
He simple didnt have enough power to become one or experience all luffys main victorys where won by the skin of his teeth, as we have seen with jimbei he easily disposed of moria, whereas luffy realied on he,s immense willpower to overcome strong enemys, just how even though luffy defeated enel he was still seen as more of a threat then luffy.
There was plenty strong pirates luffy level look at Whitbeards allies i dont think Luffy will get the position ahead of them. -
I'm the only one who facepalms whenever he reads 'Crocodile is weak'?
2 wins and a draw and people still think Luffy was stronger.
Yes because if it was not Robin having an antidote, Luffy would have died…
Luffy won the dispute, but Crocodile was clearly stronger, so clear as Alabasta's sky, Luffy was more resilliant, just that. Crocodile couldn't be to well emotionally when he was beating a guy and he just did not stop.
You can argue Crocodile is not at Aokiji's level, not even close, but saying Luffy was stronger than him is just illogical.That just to say that Big Mom being the "Crocodile" of the Yonkous wouldn't make here weaker than most of them. I mean, the War showed Crocodile on pair with all of those big shots. He even had a sucessfull shot against Akainu. Did not hurt him, but he was the first to stop him in his tracks, something not even Ivancov nor Jinbei could do.
Now, I wouldn't be very happy if Luffy won cause he got lucky against Big Mom.
That and luck is not really a solution if she is somewhere near this level:
http://www.mangareader.net/103-2541-15/one-piece/chapter-434.htmlAnd that makes me really curious about how Oda will handle this situation.
First, Charlotte can't be a good physical fighter, like Shanks and Whitebeard. She has to get most of her power from a Devil Fruit, and a really HAX one at that. There is just no way Luffy can be at Shanks' and Whitebeard's level of strength and Haki control… If he was he would have destroyed Noah with real ease, without even leving Fishman Island. That and Hodi would've been 1hko'd. I'm not underestimating is endurance. But if you tell me he was better at getting hit than Akainu I have to call it a stretch. And if Luffy was hitting at Whitebeard's level, he would be way above Akainu.So Luffy beatting some one near the strength of Whitebeard in 4 days seems highly unlikely.
That makes me believe Linlin has a slight control over her haki, and fights mainly with her DF. OR she is a power fighter without much speed, like those trolls. She would try to pound Luffy and he would scape every single hit, as they were strong enough to cause quakes all over the island, and cause Tsunami's, etc.
This are the only ways that I see Luffy winning over Linlin in 4 days. And even that would be silly, as it would leave me asking "Why wouldn't Kaidou or Black Beard defeat Linlin and steal her territories" (I'm excluding Shanks cause he most likely does not care).So I think it will come down to Luffy arriving at the Tea Party and Charlotte postponing the fight, saying she was to hungry to fight, and telling the 3 eyed girl to take care of them as she went back to the base.
The three eyed would give all of the Straw Hats a good fight and stuff like that. Instead of the three eyed it could be Bobbin it doesn't really matter.
In the end they would all fight to a tie, and the gal/guy would retreat, seeing it would be impossible to finish them alone, but would leave with only minor injuries.Something like this sounds more reasonable.
Charlotte being considerably weaker than the other Yonkou just wouldn't feel right. And from Whitebeard and Shanks we know that Admirals are a rank below Younkou's. Charlotte couldn't possibly be weaker than one or the marines would just defeat her. And her average crew is not strong, as Kidd managed to sink two of their ships.
How could she possibly keep her territory?
Lets say shanks likes a SPA island. The island has Big Mom's flag.
He decides he will take the flag and put his in.
Big Mom is weaker than him, so her protection means NOTHING.
Big Mom as a bigger crew, but if Kidd can destroy 2 ships, Shanks should be able to destroy lots.
Sending in the 2nd best would result in losing the second best.
Going her self allong with all her best members would mean Kaidou and Black Beard would get every other island. And as she is weaker than Shanks, she would not win the fight. Also Yasopp, Ben Beckam and Lucky Roux(fastest guy in a world where Pika Pika no me exists) don't seem like pushovers to me. And would be able to deal with any one slightly below Shanks. (I always thought Ben Beckam was like Zoro, just slightly below the captain) There is just no way Big Mam could be weak, and control her territory at the same time.She could've 10 members with almost her power, and through some kind of bound they did not want to be captains. But that would make it as impossible for the Straw Hats as defeating Shanks crew.
Resume:
As Big Mom Kaizoku-dan has to mantain balance with all the other yonkous:
Big Mom Kaizoku-dan= Kaidou Kaizokudan = Shanks Kaizokudan = Black Beard Kaizokudan
So, Luffy beating the captain would mean he defeated Big Mom Kaizoku-dan.
Mugiwara no Kaizoku-dan > Big Mom Kaizoku-dan.
And that would make Luffy's crew stronger or at least equal to all the other Younkou's.
Obviously I'm not taking into account the fact that none of the others would start a war from nothing, as it would mean lost of deaths in either side. But from the public eye thats what we would get. And all the other Younkou's would lose face. I mean, a rookie could take out Big Mom without a single death, and they were deviding territory afraid of a fight. -
I like how you just went from saying "Straw Hats" and "crew" to "Mugiwara" and "Kaizokudan".
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@gotta<3OP:
I'm the only one who facepalms whenever he reads 'Crocodile is weak'?
I tend to facepalm when I see the Crocodile worshippers who see him as this be-all-end-all strongest, sexiest person ever.
The fact is, he is the weakest Warlord, and nothing will change that. He got beaten first, when Luffy was at his weakest; he didn't even need any Gears (but he did against Moriah - both at the same time! Think about that.) Also, his weakness is water. Water. One of the most common elements in the world. The only way he could be a match for anyone was setting up in the middle of a freakin' desert and stealing the rain.Anyway, I think it's pretty ridiculous to rank the Emperors in terms of strength, even if we knew everything about them. Which rock is more rock-like than the other rock? I see all four on as equals - if one was any less, they wouldn't be an Emperor. That's why we've seen/heard of 2 clashes (Shanks vs. Whitebeard, and Shanks vs. Kaidou) and were never shown/told the outcome of either fight. (The fact that Shanks eventually showed up at Marineford isn't itself an indication; they might've called it a draw and came to an agreement for all we know.)
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I tend to facepalm when I see the Crocodile worshippers who see him as this be-all-end-all strongest, sexiest person ever.
The fact is, he is the weakest Warlord, and nothing will change that.I beg to differ. From what I see, Crocodile could mop the floor with Moriah any day of the week.
Therefore, Croc would be the second weakest.he didn't even need any Gears (but he did against Moriah - both at the same time! Think about that.)
That was when Moriah absorbed 1000 shadows and went into his Shadows Asgard form.
Plus, Luffy wanted to defeat him quickly, because they were in danger of being obliterated by the sun.
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I beg to differ. From what I see, Crocodile could mop the floor with Moriah any day of the week.
Therefore, Croc would be the second weakest.That was when Moriah absorbed 1000 shadows and went into his Shadows Asgard form.
Plus, Luffy wanted to defeat him quickly, because they were in danger of being obliterated by the sun.
If Croc and Moriah fought on an even playing field, I highly doubt Moriah would be able to conjure up that many shadows out of nowhere.True, tho you must admit this is pretty convincing:
Also, his weakness is water. Water. One of the most common elements in the world. The only way he could be a match for anyone was setting up in the middle of a freakin' desert and stealing the rain.
lol.
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An idea just came to me: What if Moria's current state (lack of ambition/ability, weight gain, etc.) isn't a result of his defeat at the hands of Kaidou, but rather a result of an ability that Kaidou posesses? Granted, we know Perona has a fruit that creates negativity, so that's not available to Kaidou, but what if Kaidou has a fruit that does something similar, only much worse, such as removing a person's "ambition" or "drive"? Can you imagine a person that's immune to Haki, simply because he takes your Haki away from you, literally? Considering Kaidou can mean "Church", and the other Yonkou go by nicknames, it's possible that Kaidou's name is a reference (ironically) to his ability: to take away your faith/ambition.
Just throwing this out there.
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@Fire Fist:
An idea just came to me: What if Moria's current state (lack of ambition/ability, weight gain, etc.) isn't a result of his defeat at the hands of Kaidou, but rather a result of an ability that Kaidou posesses? Granted, we know Perona has a fruit that creates negativity, so that's not available to Kaidou, but what if Kaidou has a fruit that does something similar, only much worse, such as removing a person's "ambition" or "drive"? Can you imagine a person that's immune to Haki, simply because he takes your Haki away from you, literally? Considering Kaidou can mean "Church", and the other Yonkou go by nicknames, it's possible that Kaidou's name is a reference (ironically) to his ability: to take away your faith/ambition.
Just throwing this out there.
That's a great theory! Bumped!
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True, the Yoda scene was really an addition in the anime, but it still didn't change the message transported throughout the war: Moriah doesn't cut it anymore.
If Jinbe really considered Moriah a threat, he would have stayed and made sure that his fellow Shichi really stays out of Luffy's way. But there was no need for that. One punch was enough and Jinbe thought he can move on without worry - and so he did. He considered Moriah not worthy enough to pay more attention to - and Moriah didn't seem to be capable to prove otherwise (before and after the punch).
He simply wasn't worthy enough to bother. Opposed to Akainu, who was such a danger to Luffy that Jinbe immediately decided to throw his life at him.
Edit: In essence, real Shichibukai aren't just tossed aside. Mihawk had to be occupied by Whitebeards best swordsman Vista, Kuma got distracted by Ivankov and Doflamingo clashed with Crocodile.
I think Moriah impotence is a perfect reflection of the philosophy of One Piece. Those who fight and brave the challenges of the ocean become strong. Those who stagnate in place like and rely on the power of others like Moriah become irrelevant. This is reflected well in the defeat of Crocodile as well. However Crocodile seems to have gotten his spirit back and with that seems to become relevant again. I wonder if the same will happen to Moriah
yonkou are true pirates that fight the world government..
they gather other pirate flags and form a big alliance (like what WB once had). though im not sure that other yonkou do that also. by doing that they have the strength to face marines and claim territories.
shichibukai are government dogs, though they can quit it if they want.. but they truly aware that by doing that they will face against the likes of sakazuki and kong. i think they're just avoiding a clash with WG and marines.
what im still confuse of is the case of jinbei, who once a shichibukai, mean that he's an alliance of WG while at the same time FI was under the protection of WB, which is WG's enemy.I wouldn't say dogs. They seem to have almost complete independance as we saw with Mihawk they rarely even bother to answer summons
I think it began with Big Mum being described as the "Crocodile of the New World", an opponent so strong that Luffy can't beat her without luck or trickery (yet). People further defended the idea by saying that it would be ok for Luffy to already take down a Yonko, as long as she is the weakest of the four (since if she wasn't there would be no development possible).
This also means Crocodile must be the weakest Shichi, else the comparison wouldn't work.
Why do people assume that Luffy must fight her by himself? I think this would be a great place for the Monster Trio to fight together. I am pretty sure Luffy, Zoro and Sanji together can defeat or least fight to a draw Big Mom while the rest of the Straw Hats are taking care of her officers
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To get on topic:
I don't think there are any new shich's,beside Buggy:
1)They aren't needed for the story
2)The Shich's only patrol the first half
- Akainu might not want to ally with more pirates,after everything that happened,and if the pacifistas are stronger and more numerous,other Shich's are unnecessary
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@Baou:
To get on topic:
I don't think there are any new shich's,beside Buggy:
1)They aren't needed for the story
2)The Shich's only patrol the first half
- Akainu might not want to ally with more pirates,after everything that happened,and if the pacifistas are stronger and more numerous,other Shich's are unnecessary
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How do you know that?
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That's because they had their own plans/businesses that could only be realized in the first half. Mihawk was the only one without anything of the sort, but he has little reason to go to the New World.
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Akainu has no control over this sort of thing. The Shichibukai are the responsibility of the WG and the WG only. They're also needed to keep the balance between the three powers. Also, the Pacifistas are very expensive to make, so I doubt they would have grown so much in numbers in those past 2 years.
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The needs of the story will dictate where the Shichibukai will be needed, and where they will go. Again, it's Marines + Shichibukai to balance out the 4 Yonkou. With Akainu in charge of the new forces, and the marines having more presence in the New World, it may be time for the Shichibukai to follow.
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God, why is Moria so underappreciated and underrated?!
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Just wait till Prime Moria will kick some heavy asses
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/Moria appreciation thread/
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@Fire Fist:
An idea just came to me: What if Moria's current state (lack of ambition/ability, weight gain, etc.) isn't a result of his defeat at the hands of Kaidou, but rather a result of an ability that Kaidou posesses? Granted, we know Perona has a fruit that creates negativity, so that's not available to Kaidou, but what if Kaidou has a fruit that does something similar, only much worse, such as removing a person's "ambition" or "drive"? Can you imagine a person that's immune to Haki, simply because he takes your Haki away from you, literally? Considering Kaidou can mean "Church", and the other Yonkou go by nicknames, it's possible that Kaidou's name is a reference (ironically) to his ability: to take away your faith/ambition.
Just throwing this out there.
Maybe expand it a bit more of him controlling a bit more emotions, and that's a pretty solid idea and one I never would have thought of.
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@Fire Fist:
An idea just came to me: What if Moria's current state (lack of ambition/ability, weight gain, etc.) isn't a result of his defeat at the hands of Kaidou, but rather a result of an ability that Kaidou posesses? Granted, we know Perona has a fruit that creates negativity, so that's not available to Kaidou, but what if Kaidou has a fruit that does something similar, only much worse, such as removing a person's "ambition" or "drive"? Can you imagine a person that's immune to Haki, simply because he takes your Haki away from you, literally? Considering Kaidou can mean "Church", and the other Yonkou go by nicknames, it's possible that Kaidou's name is a reference (ironically) to his ability: to take away your faith/ambition.
Just throwing this out there.
That's not a bad idea. Even though Perona has negativity nothing says that someone can't have full control of the emotion spectrum and there have been multiple times now where Devil fruits have similarities on the surface
! (Crocodile and Caribou both being earth themed, Ace and Akainu both having pyro related abilities, and Boa and Foxy emitting pink photon beams) but underneath every Devil fruit is unique and the user's use of an devil fruit adds to the creative ways it can be used.
On another note I believe when Kaidou appears officially in the story Moriah will reappear, hopefully in a restored Ryuk-like form.
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What if kaido is in fact a giant ? After all moria was planning to fight kaido with oz , i always found excessive that fighting kaido required an immortal giant zombie but if kaido is an actual giant that would make sense.
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How would an immortal giant zombie be excessive if he going against WB or Mihawk? Big Mam seems to be a giant. Would be pretty boring if Kaidou is one too. Prefer if he was a medium sized guy like Croc or Franky or normal sized instead of large or giant human and definitely not a Giant or Giant Giant.
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@Fire Fist:
An idea just came to me: What if Moria's current state (lack of ambition/ability, weight gain, etc.) isn't a result of his defeat at the hands of Kaidou, but rather a result of an ability that Kaidou posesses? Granted, we know Perona has a fruit that creates negativity, so that's not available to Kaidou, but what if Kaidou has a fruit that does something similar, only much worse, such as removing a person's "ambition" or "drive"? Can you imagine a person that's immune to Haki, simply because he takes your Haki away from you, literally? Considering Kaidou can mean "Church", and the other Yonkou go by nicknames, it's possible that Kaidou's name is a reference (ironically) to his ability: to take away your faith/ambition.
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t see your mentioned lack of ambition..he wnated to build a new stronger crew, where each member is a zombie so that he can once again try to conquer the NW. Don
t know where you see there a DF used by Kaidou when he doesnt alck anything. When Kaidou would rly posses such an ability Moria wouldn
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A question for people who seriouly thinks that Buggy is/will be a Shichibukai: Seriously?
I doubt the government would make him one just because he used to be with Roger, and I'm sure that they did research on him before sending out the invitation too. Being famous isn't enough to make you guarantee a spot. Strength is also a deciding factor, and unless Buggy somehow manages to hide the fact that he is weak this whole time, the government mostly definitely wouldn't want him.
I brought up this once before: A friend of mine says that the government is only temporarily making him a Shichibukai until they find a more suitable candidate. Because the public doesn't know much about Buggy, they believe that they will fear him simply due to the fact that he's used to be with Roger.
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A question for people who seriouly thinks that Buggy is/will be a Shichibukai: Seriously?
I doubt the government would make him one just because he used to be with Roger, and I'm sure that they did research on him before sending out the invitation too. Being famous isn't enough to make you guarantee a spot. Strength is also a deciding factor, and unless Buggy somehow manages to hide the fact that he is weak this whole time, the government mostly definitely wouldn't want him.
I brought up this once before: A friend of mine says that the government is only temporarily making him a Shichibukai until they find a more suitable candidate. Because the public doesn't know much about Buggy, they believe that they will fear him simply due to the fact that he's used to be with Roger.
Did you forget that Buggy's crew now has a bunch of pirates with bounties above 100 Million? Buggy's strength doesn't matter when you have plenty of subordinates that could fill the spot of Shichibukai themselves under your command.
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A question for people who seriouly thinks that Buggy is/will be a Shichibukai: Seriously?
I doubt the government would make him one just because he used to be with Roger, and I'm sure that they did research on him before sending out the invitation too. Being famous isn't enough to make you guarantee a spot. Strength is also a deciding factor, and unless Buggy somehow manages to hide the fact that he is weak this whole time, the government mostly definitely wouldn't want him.
I brought up this once before: A friend of mine says that the government is only temporarily making him a Shichibukai until they find a more suitable candidate. Because the public doesn't know much about Buggy, they believe that they will fear him simply due to the fact that he's used to be with Roger.
He got bat mail, he's a warlord, no question. He's pretty much the Mr. Satan of One Piece.
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A question for people who seriouly thinks that Buggy is/will be a Shichibukai: Seriously?
I doubt the government would make him one just because he used to be with Roger, and I'm sure that they did research on him before sending out the invitation too. Being famous isn't enough to make you guarantee a spot. Strength is also a deciding factor, and unless Buggy somehow manages to hide the fact that he is weak this whole time, the government mostly definitely wouldn't want him.
I brought up this once before: A friend of mine says that the government is only temporarily making him a Shichibukai until they find a more suitable candidate. Because the public doesn't know much about Buggy, they believe that they will fear him simply due to the fact that he's used to be with Roger.
I'll add my 2 cents. Buggy has a reputation of being a brother to an emperor and serving under Roger. According to the Marines he was just lying low until the perfect time strike. They accuse him along with Luffy as the sole 2 people who initiated the break out of Impel Down and they see him threaten Shanks and it appeared that White Beard acknowledged his "power."
He got a messenger bat like Jinbe, you havn't been paying attention. That's why the government would want him.
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I'll add my 2 cents. Buggy has a reputation of being a brother to an emperor and serving under Roger. According to the Marines he was just lying low until the perfect time strike. They accuse him along with Luffy as the sole 2 people who initiated the break out of Impel Down and they see him threaten Shanks and it appeared that White Beard acknowledged his "power."
He got a messenger bat like Jinbe, you havn't been paying attention. That's why the government would want him.
Not to speak of the fact that Buggy remained unscathed till the end of the war, despite:
- Being frozen to the core by Aokiji
- Being attacked by Mihawk
- Being attacked by Akainu (he wasn't the target, but who could tell?)
Buggy, in his own retarded way, took on the strongest figures of the war. Even if his connection to Roger would have remained a secret, I'm sure the people participating in the battle would still acknowledge his "feats".
As to how he could keep his title for another 2 years? The same way he gained it: through sheer luck.
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A question for people who seriouly thinks that Buggy is/will be a Shichibukai: Seriously?
I doubt the government would make him one just because he used to be with Roger, and I'm sure that they did research on him before sending out the invitation too. Being famous isn't enough to make you guarantee a spot. Strength is also a deciding factor, and unless Buggy somehow manages to hide the fact that he is weak this whole time, the government mostly definitely wouldn't want him.
I brought up this once before: A friend of mine says that the government is only temporarily making him a Shichibukai until they find a more suitable candidate. Because the public doesn't know much about Buggy, they believe that they will fear him simply due to the fact that he's used to be with Roger.
He also survived direct confrontations against all of the Admirals and Mihawk, was "acknowledged" by WB, saved Luffy and Jinbe, his right hand man helped free Ace, and he is known as Red-hairs "blood brother" comfortable enough to scream directly in his face. Then there are the 200 odd pirates under his command. Buggy can serve the basic function of a warlord just fine. Finding a suitable replacement for Buggy is probably in the WG's cards when Buggy time in the story comes again but until some final war with Dragon I doubt they'll try if until then nobody "defeats" him. He would also be the easiest warlord to control.
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thats the whole story about buggy. Its sheer luck and cleveress that is now there at the top. He doesnt need to have strengh because he has guys with powerful DFs (alvida) and many prisoners of impeldown who are strong as hell. And dont fotget that Buggy has an really potent Fruit which has the potential tu surpass logias.
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Buggy fruit has nowhere near the potential to surpass any logia, he's just a lucky bastard who hope runs into Blackbeard.
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For all we know Buggy could very well gotten stronger for a number of reasons
1. It's been 2 years, he could have been training
2. Maybe his luck with the prisoners ran out, and now he genuinely has to prove his worth to them
3. He accepted the warlord positionThese and maybe more could be the reason he fills the role, of course I could be wrong, but with 2 years passing by, it's very possible.
But being a warlord should mainly require a great influence, so someone like buggy doesn't have to be powerful, he just needed the rep which he has now. Look at people like bb, the world didn't even know his power he just convinced the govt to give him a chance, then gave them Ace. That's it, he didn't have to defeat millions of notorious pirates and conquer many seas or whatever. Now look at buggy, all they know is he knows a yonkou, and was a member of Rogers crew. That's all they need to be convinced he'd be a Decent warlord.
Now when something like marine ford happens again they'll see that buggy isn't a worthy warlord, depending on what happens though.
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TBH Buggy becoming Shichibukai has potential to being a very very interesting subplot. He's completely different from the other Shichibukai, and it's going to be fun to see how he'll keep his position while it lasts. I'm definitely looking forward to see what Oda does.
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For all we know Buggy could very well gotten stronger for a number of reasons
No. This would go against Buggy's entire character. He's a weak comic relief character who managed to survive until now due to opportunism, trickery and lots of luck. He's the Mr. Satan of One Piece.
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No. This would go against Buggy's entire character. He's a weak comic relief character who managed to survive until now due to opportunism, trickery and lots of luck. He's the Mr. Satan of One Piece.
Alright I guess I'm being to optimistic. So based on buggy's character the most we can expect is same ol buggy with a super strong crew to back him up, warlord or not.
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Buggy may not have gotten stronger but he sure did inspire his crew so for all we know, they could have trained for 2 years.
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I can not wait until we get some names from Buggy's new guys. I remember one looking particularly vicious and that turnip head who greeted Luffy when he got thrown in a cell on Level 5.
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Okay, suppose let's say… The government tells him to do something spectacular that will prove his strength all by himself. How do you think things are going to turn out?
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No. This would go against Buggy's entire character. He's a weak comic relief character who managed to survive until now due to opportunism, trickery and lots of luck. He's the Mr. Satan of One Piece.
Well, the Buggy at Impel Down was slightly improved than in the very beginning. It would be strange if Oda didn't have him improve just a little more after two years. I'm not saying for him to grow like the way the SH's did, but to improve a little would be exciting to see. The more stupid the growth the better, I say.
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Well, the Buggy at Impel Down was slightly improved than in the very beginning. It would be strange if Oda didn't have him improve just a little more after two years. I'm not saying for him to grow like the way the SH's did, but to improve a little would be exciting to see. The more stupid the growth the better, I say.
That was before he got a crew full of loyal 100 Million+ pirates. With them around, he has no reason to improve his own strength at all.
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Well, the Buggy at Impel Down was slightly improved than in the very beginning. It would be strange if Oda didn't have him improve just a little more after two years. I'm not saying for him to grow like the way the SH's did, but to improve a little would be exciting to see. The more stupid the growth the better, I say.
If you ask me, the Buggy at ID wasn't really stronger than East Blue Buggy. That's because I feel East Blue Buggy wasn't all that weak. He was doing fine against Luffy until he got distracted by Nami. So yeah, I do think it would be out of character for him to get a powerup. Maybe, an ever so slight increase but nothing drastic enough to actually justify his Warlord rank.
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Actually Mr.3 or Alvida might get a powerup.
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If anyone on that crew I would guess Galdino. He was the only one aware of Buggy's actual strength during the breakout/war, so he'd probably be more concerned with actually getting strong since he knows his captain isn't. Alvida's in the same boat of knowing Buggy's a huge faker, but I don't really see her getting much stronger.
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Why can't Alvida get stronge? She has always been a brawler so unless she has been coasting on the ID prisoners reps she should be stronger just being on the Grand Line or possibly New World for 2 years. It's the other two Buggy pirates I think would get by solely on their bosses new found reputation.
Okay, suppose let's say… The government tells him to do something spectacular that will prove his strength all by himself. How do you think things are going to turn out?
Since when do Warlords do what they are supposed to do? Why ask questions about never-gonna-happen hypotheticals? Pretty sure the WG themselves know perfectly well Buggy isn't a Warlord in strength. Won't be a joke only the readers and Alvida&Mr.3 understand.
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Both of Buggy's prominent underlings were once arc bosses so its possible that both of them will progress while Buggy stays the same. Mr.Satan's relationship with Videl and Buu can possibly be used here, because like in that relationship both Mr.3 and Alvida can be considered more powerful than Buggy.
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Since when do Warlords do what they are supposed to do? Why ask questions about never-gonna-happen hypotheticals? Pretty sure the WG themselves know perfectly well Buggy isn't a Warlord in strength. Won't be a joke only the readers and Alvida&Mr.3 understand.
It's just a question for people who seriously think Buggy can get away with it as a Shichibukai despite not being strong. Suppose the govt. wants him to do an amazing feat of strength, what can he do if he wants to preserve his position?