Shichibukai Discussion Thread

DesertSpada

Jimbei having a DF would be extremely dumb. I mean EXTREMELY so. He's a Fishman. Dude can breath underwater(a great skill if you're a pirate) and becomes even stronger in the water. Him having a DF would be a waste. He's a Fishman Shichibukai with a former 250, 000, 000 bounty.

So those are my thoughts on him having one. So I'm going on that he's just super strong and will have a distinct fighting syle. Arlong fought by using his pulled teeth and extremely durable nose as weapons. Pretty interesting. Jimbei will most certainly have his own interesting way to fight.

Nuzzie

Jinbei: No doubt that comes as a surprise to you…
I've been a guest on Whitebeard's ship many a time...
...but because of my reputation and standing, I had to travel underneath the sea to do it. So no, Jinbei does not have a DF

Rori

After reading a book about whale sharks i was intrigue by this

Distinguishing Characteristics

Harmless
Seasonally, day and night
Appears curious with humans

Jinbei curious about humans? maybe

TokageMoria

@Ivotas:

Why is it even a question that Moria lost at that certain moment? It was clearly said by the author (through Zoro's words) that they've already won the fight with Moria while they were confronting Nightmare Moria. The only thing they were fighting then was time. Morias downfall was inevitable at that point.

I completely agree. Here's Moria's thoughts before initiating Shadow Asgard. He and his supposed greatest zombie, Oz, just got the crap beat out of them by, in Moria's mind, a puny rookie that shouldnt be much of a threat. And he did it by using his own ability against him. Let me remind you that Moria believed Oz was the key in defeating Kaido, who must have handed Moria his most crushing defeat.

Now, to prove to the SH crew, the other pirates, and possibly to himself, that he was stronger than Luffy, he had to show that not only was he stronger physically, but that he could withstand more mental strain by absorbing 10 times the amount of shadows as Luffy. He basically had to say "Not only am I gonna beat you, I'm gonna one-up ya by holding more shadows than you could." I problem is that with 1000 shadows, Morias speed is sacrificed for enormous power which doesnt do much good if he cant hit Luffy. In theory, if Moria had held back on the shadows, possibly between 250 and 500, he might have balanced power and manurverability enough to win. He could've even chosen the 500 strongest shadows and leave the rest in their zombies. You got to admit, even though he was completly stuffed with shadows with 1000, he was still conscious and thinking straight (to a point). For Christ's sake, he took 2 Jet Bazooks, a Jet Rocket, and then 2 hits from Gigant Jet Shell before he spit out all the shadows. Luffy won that fight, with a tremondous advantage given to him, by a hair.

Oh, and I support the idea that Zombies are a part of Morias fighting power and combat capabilities. Oz beating SH crew with him in the cockpit is the same as Moria fighting, cause Oz and the zombies are an extension of his own powers.

TLC

@Nuzzie:

Jinbei: No doubt that comes as a surprise to you…
I've been a guest on Whitebeard's ship many a time...
...but because of my reputation and standing, I had to travel underneath the sea to do it. So no, Jinbei does not have a DF

Unless he has an ability that makes him something like a submarine but I also wish and hope he doesn't have a devil fruit. It would be quite interesting to see the power and fighting-style of a being who acquired his Shickibukai status with pure strength alone.

flandrian15

@Thousand:

Unless he has an ability that makes him something like a submarine but I also wish and hope he doesn't have a devil fruit. It would be quite interesting to see the power and fighting-style of a being who acquired his Shickibukai status with pure strength alone.

euhm, a submarine DF would be totally lame because Df users become bricks in the sea and thus Jimbei would be able to breath underwater being a fishman and all (allthough wales do have to come up to breath) but he won't be able to move. . . great submarine :wassat:

Besides, Fishmen become even stronger in the water so a DF wouldn't be smart. He would be a fishman unable to swim, talk about an unhappy being. . .
that's like being a ski-instructor in Ecuador

TLC

@flandrian15:

euhm, a submarine DF would be totally lame because Df users become bricks in the sea and thus Jimbei would be able to breath underwater being a fishman and all (allthough wales do have to come up to breath) but he won't be able to move. . . great submarine :wassat:

Not an actual submarine. For example, Mr. 3 can make one out of wax except that it wouldn't be able to move, take the pressure etc. I'm just saying it's a SMALL possibility. One that I do not like and hope would not come true.

flandrian15

@Thousand:

Not an actual submarine. For example, Mr. 3 can make one out of wax except that it wouldn't be able to move, take the pressure etc. I'm just saying it's a SMALL possibility. One that I do not like and hope would not come true.

In this opinion I CAN follow you indeed. Fishmen shouldn't have DF

It could make up a sad story like Duvals about a fishman who lost the ability to swim because he accidentally ate a DF and now he is depressed or something. . .

Jane Doe

well, we can't have EVERY strong figures in one piece world having Df ability….
Maybe Jimbei have Haki? (here comes another haki topic)

*Meh*

Since I can't bring myself to say it, I'll put these words in the mouth of someone who probably won't mind.

Jinbei's strength comes from the fact that

he's a member of a superior species.

It's as simple as that.

flandrian15

darn you racists

Azriel

true…base fish man is already stronger than most base human...

*Meh*

And don't you be eyeballin' them mermaids, flandrian. I'm watchin' you like a hawk.

goku547

@Fire Fist:

You're not thinking outside the box. It could be insanely useful.

Depending on the range of the power, he could use it for communication (Create vibrations as code across his strings), he could create nets to stop attacks or block access to things, he could create bridges and walk on the water by creating a string bridge… the string string fruit would have a ton of uses.

"string string " sounds a little to much like rope rope at water 7

Captaingod

only there is no rope-fruit, just a ropeguy

SunWuKong

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Jadosra

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Vanessa

I like how Captain Schmekie basically goes into a trance when the topic is Crocodile.

Anyway, you guys should find that Shichibukai Strength topic and talk about this there. It's the reason it was made in the first place so everything else other than strength talk goes here.

I'll be moving all these last few posts and deleting any future ones pertaining to strength from now on so please take it to that thread. I'm sure you guys don't want your little essays to be deleted.

Captain Shmeckie

…What trance?! I just do this shit to kill time, and I might as well kill time preaching the awesomeness of the Great One.

Mad_Scientist

@Zik:

Only in regards to ppl lusting for her, she hasn't been seen to be hedonistic….........yet!

She's way more prideful of her beauty, or even greedy when it comes to wanting to be shichi even though she doesn't want to fight in the war.

The shichi and 7 deadly sins became a little irrelevant ever since Croc lost position and BB came in seeing as it's not like the deadly sins those two might rep are the same....

Ah, but I once read a version of that theory that said that the original Shichi each represented a single sin, while BB represented all 7 at once. Or one could say that BB just doesn't fit the theme at all, like how he doesn't fit the animal name theme of the original 7.

Based on what we know of the Shichi now, here's how I'd match the sins.

Moria: Sloth. Definitely fits, and has an interesting twist if what I read on another forum is true. Someone said that sloth is actually considered a sin of despair, which would fit with Moria's trauma of losing his entire crew in the New World.

Donflamingo: Greed. He seems pretty greedy, so I guess that fits.

Mihawk: Pride. His attitude seems pretty prideful to me. We don't know a huge amount about him, though. If I'm wrong about Hancock, I could potentially see Mihawk being lust, considering his vampire-like theme and the associations of vampies with lust, but there's really not a huge amount to go on.

Kuma: Wrath. This would be based entirely on his past, of course, because his current personality doesn't seem to fit with any of the sins.

Hancock: Lust. I know Hancock herself doesn't seem to fit this too well, though she is rather infatuated with Luffy. But if you think about it, even if Oda went with a seven deadly sins theme, there's no reason he'd have be universal in the way he applies it to each member. He could simply say that for one of the Shichibukai, the sin will be the way people behave around her, not the way she herself behaves. In which case, Hancock definitely fits.

Alternately, she could be pride.

Jimbei: Gluttony. Simply because I'm not sure what else to give him, and he is a big fellow.

Croc: Envy. Some of his actions and motivations could be considered of a covetious nature.

Zik

^ I just don't see it some sins fit for several shichi others don't match up that well.

ultimec1a

@Mad_Scientist:

Ah, but I once read a version of that theory that said that the original Shichi each represented a single sin, while BB represented all 7 at once. Or one could say that BB just doesn't fit the theme at all, like how he doesn't fit the animal name theme of the original 7.

Based on what we know of the Shichi now, here's how I'd match the sins.

Moria: Sloth. Definitely fits, and has an interesting twist if what I read on another forum is true. Someone said that sloth is actually considered a sin of despair, which would fit with Moria's trauma of losing his entire crew in the New World.

Donflamingo: Greed. He seems pretty greedy, so I guess that fits.

Mihawk: Pride. His attitude seems pretty prideful to me. We don't know a huge amount about him, though. If I'm wrong about Hancock, I could potentially see Mihawk being lust, considering his vampire-like theme and the associations of vampies with lust, but there's really not a huge amount to go on.

Kuma: Wrath. This would be based entirely on his past, of course, because his current personality doesn't seem to fit with any of the sins.

Hancock: Lust. I know Hancock herself doesn't seem to fit this too well, though she is rather infatuated with Luffy. But if you think about it, even if Oda went with a seven deadly sins theme, there's no reason he'd have be universal in the way he applies it to each member. He could simply say that for one of the Shichibukai, the sin will be the way people behave around her, not the way she herself behaves. In which case, Hancock definitely fits.

Alternately, she could be pride.

Jimbei: Gluttony. Simply because I'm not sure what else to give him, and he is a big fellow.

Croc: Envy. Some of his actions and motivations could be considered of a covetious nature.

Some of the sins don't match up well with all of the Shichibukai; also, Crocodile for envy? I think Crocodile would make a much better greed/pride than envy.

Jdanzi

Indeed, there is no way crocodile is envy, also hancock is hardly lust, she doesn't wana f**k luffy or any other boy does she? ^^

Just go wtih the current animal themes, no need to try and catagorise them with other stuff.

GODA_8000

Why is that every time there's seven of something, it gets tied to deadly sins EVERYTIME?

Captain Shmeckie

Blame Fullmetal Alchemist. Or because it makes the young folks feel like shit's all deep when it's tied to the seven deadly sins.

Zkaiser

Don't blame FMA. Nobody watches that shit.

Urouge

@MagneticMonkey:

23 No.

I have no idea what this means.

Captain Hypersock

@Mad_Scientist:

Ah, but I once read a version of that theory that said that the original Shichi each represented a single sin, while BB represented all 7 at once. Or one could say that BB just doesn't fit the theme at all, like how he doesn't fit the animal name theme of the original 7.

Based on what we know of the Shichi now, here's how I'd match the sins.

Moria: Sloth. Definitely fits, and has an interesting twist if what I read on another forum is true. Someone said that sloth is actually considered a sin of despair, which would fit with Moria's trauma of losing his entire crew in the New World.

Donflamingo: Greed. He seems pretty greedy, so I guess that fits.

Mihawk: Pride. His attitude seems pretty prideful to me. We don't know a huge amount about him, though. If I'm wrong about Hancock, I could potentially see Mihawk being lust, considering his vampire-like theme and the associations of vampies with lust, but there's really not a huge amount to go on.

Kuma: Wrath. This would be based entirely on his past, of course, because his current personality doesn't seem to fit with any of the sins.

Hancock: Lust. I know Hancock herself doesn't seem to fit this too well, though she is rather infatuated with Luffy. But if you think about it, even if Oda went with a seven deadly sins theme, there's no reason he'd have be universal in the way he applies it to each member. He could simply say that for one of the Shichibukai, the sin will be the way people behave around her, not the way she herself behaves. In which case, Hancock definitely fits.

Alternately, she could be pride.

Jimbei: Gluttony. Simply because I'm not sure what else to give him, and he is a big fellow.

Croc: Envy. Some of his actions and motivations could be considered of a covetious nature.

Actually, I think Blackbeard is a better representation of gluttony. After all, he DOES love those cherry pies.

Zkaiser

@What:

The Official 7 Sin List.

Mihawk: Pride

Crocodile: Greed

DoFlamingo: Gluttony

Kuma: Wrath

Hancock: Lust

Jinbei: Envy

Moria: Sloth

If you don't like this list then you are stupid. The Seven Sins applies to all groups of seven. Even the power Rangers.

Stop it with the 7sin crap.

MagneticMonkey

@Zkaiser:

Stop it with the 7sin crap.

seriously people want that dead sins sooooo bad that they choose to overlook the flaws of that theory The problem is that noone can classify all the shichis in the categories. It's not that 1 shichi == 1 sin.

@MagneticMonkey:

seriously people want that dead sins sooooo bad that they choose to overlook the flaws of that theory The problem is that noone can classify all the shichis in the categories. It's not that 1 shichi == 1 sin.

also most of the shichibukai seem to be applicable to more than one sin, therefore its impossible to put them all in one category….....rendering this theory flawed.

also we have had croc jailed and bb replace him, as well as other shichibukai positions and opinions change toward life and other aspects, for instance boa.......seems completely different to the person we first met. doflamingo seems to have changed, kuma's true goals are unclear as it seems there's a link to dragon so i wouldn't put any of these people in a category as there has been continuous change throughout.....

VicViper

@Zkaiser:

Stop it with the 7sin crap.

I agree, keep this pretentious horse shit out of my One Piece.

Urouge

OMG, there are seven Shichibukai, and seven wonders of the world! Clearly Jimbei is the pyramids.

MagneticMonkey

@Urouge:

OMG, there are seven Shichibukai, and seven wonders of the world! Clearly Jimbei is the pyramids.

23 No.

yawood

found this from junte86 animesuki forums

Kujinshi: A floating demon with a scarf covering his face, wielding a sword. Can steal life energy or souls using Life Steal or Soul Steal. Defeated by Gellard and returns in the Final Scenario with an even more grotesque appearance than when you first met him.

Wagnas: A hero with both angelic and butterfly-like characteristics, the incredibly feminine looking Lord Wagnas is actually male. He enslaves the Iris race to do his bidding, and resides in a floating castle above the Eastern Kingdom. Uses the special move "Psycho Burst".

Dantarg: With features reminiscent of both elephants and sauropods as well as that of the mythical centaur, Lord Dantarg is one of the most physically powerful of the Seven Heroes. He terrorizes the migratory clans, and prefers devastating physical attacks, including Grand Slam. He is also the only hero with four different forms, depending on the time in which the character fights him. Uses the special move "Rampage."

Bokuohn: A puppeteer demon with an elderly appearance, Bokuohn is in control of the majority of the Seven Heroes' forces. Situated in the Steppes region, he owns a large landship, complete with an innumerable amount of slaves. His special technique, "Marionette," allows him to manipulate all party members.

Subier: A male cecaelia (half-human, half-octopus) that controls various minions in the ocean. Defeating the narwhal known as Master of Ocean will unleash Subier's more powerful form. His preferred move is "Maelstrom."

Noel: A Swordsman who always keeps his word. Very powerful, with a strict code of honor. If you defeat Rocbouquet before you fight him, however, he becomes completely unwilling to compromise, and becomes unrelenting in combat.

Rocbouquet: The only female of the 7, she controls all the men in the Jungle villages. While there, she aspires to know the secret of a nearby temple. Her Temptation skill charms all male party members. She is also the sister of Lord Noel.

Romancing Saga 2

one more thing is Boa Hancock name i think from Thomas Hancock
that's explain her passion for rubber

ultimec1a

@yawood:

found this from junte86 animesuki forums

Romancing Saga 2

one more thing is Boa Hancock name i think from Thomas Hancock
that's explain her passion for rubber

Wow, you're intelligent.

Kuminator

Jinbei is on almost the same level as Kuma now,

Kuma = Giant Talkin' Cybernetic Tracksuit-Wearing, Air-Pushing Japanese Bear

Jinbei = Giant Talkin' Shark/Wale Fishman wearing a Traditional Japanese Kimono

Deathborn

@Urouge:

OMG, there are seven Shichibukai, and seven wonders of the world! Clearly Jimbei is the pyramids.

You're clearly mistaking… shichibukai match with the 7 dwarfs of Snow White.

1010011010

@Deathborn:

You're clearly mistaking… shichibukai match with the 7 dwarfs of Snow White.

nope; colours of the rainbow

@Deathborn:

You're clearly mistaking… shichibukai match with the 7 dwarfs of Snow White.

Bashful - kuma
Doc - moria
Dopey - blackbeard
Grumpy - boa
Happy - doflammingo
Sleepy - mihawk
Sneezy - jimbei

erm…....:ermm: perhaps not

yawood

How old Mihawk is? can anyone speculate

Kuma D. Evil

@yawood:

How old Mihawk is? can anyone speculate

Mihawk: ~35 years

Aokiji: ~48 years
Kizaru: ~52 years

Garp: ~65
Rayleigh: ~67
Sengoku: ~55

bepo

@Kuma:

Mihawk: ~35 years

Aokiji: ~48 years
Kizaru: ~52 years

Garp: ~65
Rayleigh: ~67
Sengoku: ~55

is this a fact? i would think mihawk is older. mid fourties, around the same age as shanks

Kuma D. Evil

@bepo:

is this a fact? i would think mihawk is older. mid fourties, around the same age as shanks

No, speculation from me. But yes he could also around 40, is hard to say, but lucci is 28 and mihawk don't looks 15 years older to me.

RomanceDawn

I was just reading through thriller bark and just noticed this. Maybe you all discussed this long ago, but I never saw any mention of it.

Get a load of that wall zombie, looks like an early Jimbei.

http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/452/10-11/

Vanessa

@Kuma:

No, speculation from me. But yes he could also around 40, is hard to say, but lucci is 28 and mihawk don't looks 15 years older to me.

Lucci is 25.

And Mihawk? He's probably around the same age as Shanks, so 37-40 maybe.

brennen.exe

@LongFist:

Get a load of that wall zombie, looks like an early Jimbei: Link

Oh yeah, haha. And Sentoumaru's scar.

Shuurajou

Crocodile, that guy is SO pimp! (ah! ah! ah! ah! i laughed like that the whole day while went shopping with my friend, it all started when we saw rings so i put like shiny ones on mah hand xD i wish i had a list of threats she made at me)

donqiouxte doflamingo, he has one of thoes names that you just cant pronounce, like ulquiorra…

@Vanessa:

Lucci is 25.

And Mihawk? He's probably around the same age as Shanks, so 37-40 maybe.

well shanks is 37ish so surely mihawk is older…..

although now i think of it he doesnt seem to be past 45 in appearance :wassat:

its hard basing the age from shanks because shanks only looks about 28 in my opinion, but i would expect friends that have trained with each other to be about the same age so maybe he is 40ish

(the whole Dracula theme we have makes me think perhaps he is much older but retains his youth and power from an unknown source…...highlander)

Palochka

@John:

(the whole Dracula theme we have makes me think perhaps he is much older but retains his youth and power from an unknown source…...highlander)

You just lost 50 cool points.