I'm posting this thread because I for one liked this arc alot, but its not that celebrated by most fans. How did you think the fights went, or how the story was delivered?
Skypiea
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The fights were not really good (specially Chopper vs. Gedatsu and Wiper vs. Shura), but it had a good plot, great characters (Gedatsu, Shura, Wiper, Aisa, Laki) and a moving flashback. I don't understand why the fans seem to bash/ignore this arc so much, in my opinion is at least way better than the horrid Thriller Bark.
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Thriller bark is like Michael Jackson's thriller. It sucks. I dont know that much about the arc myself, (I know everything about the east blue saga) but I'm watching the anime of it and it looks awesome. Eneru as I know sucked in his fight with Luffy. Did that have to do with Luffy's gum gumminess?
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The fights were not really good (specially Chopper vs. Gedatsu and Wiper vs. Shura), but it had a good plot, great characters (Gedatsu, Shura, Wiper, Aisa, Laki) and a moving flashback. I don't understand why the fans seem to bash/ignore this arc so much, in my opinion is at least way better than the horrid Thriller Bark.
You fail massively hard for not having "Enel" anywhere in this post.
I personally really enjoyed the arc. And Enel was a hella a bad ass.
The only thing that disappointed me was the Final between Enel and Luffy…it was very lacklustering.
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buu what the heck is your avatar pic from? a gay festival?
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Eneru as I know sucked in his fight with Luffy. Did that have to do with Luffy's gum gumminess?
Yeah… because he is made of rubber and lighting can't affect him...
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buu what the heck is your avatar pic from? a gay festival?
Anyone who doesn't know Hard Gay is also massive fail.
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Ok dude…you've made your point.
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Anyone who says "massive fail" twice let alone twice in the same thread is a \dumbass.
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Ace is dead society…hmmm...can I join?
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This thread is going off-topic…..
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Indeed. Anyway, can anyone post a pic of the map of skypiea in here? Thanks…also, what devil fruit did Eneru eat, and why does Grand Adventure call it "Rumble Rumble"?
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Lightning logia ,"goru goru no mi" i belive, goru(sp?) or rumble is the sound lightning/thunder makes.
What the…? Holy smurf am I slow! Until this statement of yours I never even realized that an octopus is actually serving octopusballs. Talk about not seeing the forest because of too many trees. facepalm
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The fights were not really good (specially Chopper vs. Gedatsu and Wiper vs. Shura), but it had a good plot, great characters (Gedatsu, Shura, Wiper, Aisa, Laki) and a moving flashback. I don't understand why the fans seem to bash/ignore this arc so much, in my opinion is at least way better than the horrid Thriller Bark.
Wait so Thriller Bark sucks? Everyone hates it? Oda-Sensei is losing his touch? :sad:
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probably one of the best fights. Kinda similar to the Enies Lobbie fights in that they were really difficult. I liked this arc alot.:D
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What the…? Holy smurf am I slow! Until this statement of yours I never even realized that an octopus is actually serving octopusballs. Talk about not seeing the forest because of too many trees. facepalm
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It's Goro Goro which means rumble rumble. Gero Gero is how frogs ribbit in Japan.
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I know, I get em confused. XD
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I like Skypeia,Eneru was my favorite major villian and i like the Chopper vs Gedatsu fight
Kamen Rider OOOs
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Erm, sorry for going off topic but I'm really worried about how people are saying Thriller Bark sucks. What's really worrying is that its the first major arc after enies lobby and if its bad, it means that Oda-Sensei has lost his touch or he can't come up with anything good any more and that worries me
On Topic: I liked Slypiea more than Arabasta on the premise of cooler characters and action.
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kingoffans i assume that you havent read TB and you dont want to get spoiled?
i wouldnt worry about it we havent really gotten so far that you can say that the arc is bad or not. the character design of most characters are imo awesome.
and even if you think this arc suck its just one arc and Oda might pick it up again on the next one.
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I don't see how Thriller Bark suck. ''This'' character make the arc totally worth it for me. It will probably be a short arc too because it seem to me that the fight will start soon.
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Erm, sorry for going off topic but I'm really worried about how people are saying Thriller Bark sucks. What's really worrying is that its the first major arc after enies lobby and if its bad, it means that Oda-Sensei has lost his touch or he can't come up with anything good any more and that worries me
On Topic: I liked Slypiea more than Arabasta on the premise of cooler characters and action.
If you think that way, you're a fool. Thriller Bark is a mini-arc, it's dumb if people are thinking he lost his touch over what may happen in this arc.
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Lol sorry guys. Its just one of the people here in this thread said that it was horrendous. But in retrospect, it was foolish of me to judge the arc because of one opinion. It was when GumGum agreed with him, I was slightly rattled. I haven't seen it yet. In the manga, I'm up to the Enies Lobby Fights and am up to date in the anime. Thoguh I know about Mr Panty loving Gentlemen and Lizard dude and the walking dead and all the rest due to my insatiable curiosity and Wikepedia. But I don't know much about the plot. It probably might seem to be not to long but knowing Oda-Sensei, he'll probably make a huge twist and shock everyone wth a fantastic revelation that will drag it many chapters. One thing is for sure. If Luffy beats Lizard Dude, it's gonna affect the plot greatly. I mean the World Government would be ripping their hair out in order to get Luffy. After all, he not only destroyed Enies Lobby but defeated 2 you know whats! His bounty would get tripled again or at least doubled. I can't wait to read it but can't right now where I read the manga is experiencing technical difficulties which has been going on for a day now. Anyway tx for the pick me up guys and now on topic (Man this is one lame ass post I'm making^^)
I believe many people bash Sky Island because they never saw it's significance. Luffy didn't rise in bounties or anything and he didn't gain anything special. Well that sirs is wrong. Sky Island had several points which made this arc essential. All of which I shall list.
1. It is here where they got the sky dials from which Usopp perfected the Clima Tact and made Kabuto. Naturally, without these what would they have done in Enies Lobby?
2. It is here that Usopp saw the Klauberteman. No need for me to tell you the significance of it since 312 aired.
3. It is here where they got 300 million berry. Without it, 200 of it would never have been stolen by the Franky family which ultimately lead to Usopp and Luffy's fight whereby he left the crew afterwards and Franky wouldn't have been pised off at Luffy thus they would never have had a confrontation. Of course that 200 million was later used to make you know what. Yes I know about it, I'm that shameless when it comes to spoilers.
4. Gold Roger had gone to Sky Island and he had found the golden bell and it is here that Robin picked up the lead to the Rio poneglyph and how it might possibly eb at Raftael.
5. Bonding time with Robin.
6. Zorro learns a new move.
7. Chopper gets his second major win resolving any identity issues he has on his worth in the crew.
8. And number 8, the most important! We got to see Nami half naked in an entire arc lol XD
In conclusion of my longest post ever, it is stupid to say that this arc was pointless because it had a lot of worth as mentioned previously. However I did reach the other conclusion that Oda-Sensei never came up with this arc in the begininng but came up with it at a much later date. I bet he was thinking of how he needs the points mentioned to occur and so came up with Sky Island. The man really is a Sparrow coming up with a godly arc (lol pun intended) just like that on the way. Yep he is a true genius^^
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Those are good points Kingoffans.
Many effects of Skypiea were not immediate, but over time we begin to see its importance. Overall, I enjoyed the story, and it probably helped that I read it all at once, since I'm sure it would have frustrating to read it week by week.
It was nice to be in a different type of environment, I loved the Norland flashback, and Enel is still my favorite OP villain. I mean, the guy had lighting powers and his own airship.
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Kingoffans, arcs don't need to have importance on the main plot to be good. Just look at Enies Lobby Arc. It is a "serious" arc, but it is well-messed up in certain moments.
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Skypiea is still my favorite arc, although some moments in Water Seven/Enies Lobby are just as great. I loved the arc because it had a great backstory (Norland), and had a beautiful ending.
A lot of people say they didn't like Skypiea because the fights weren't up to par, but I don't really care about fights too much, I don't read One Piece for the fighting, I read it for the characters and storyline.
But that's just me. I can certainly see why people found it dragged out, but IMO it had one of the best storylines of any arc, and hands down had the best ending.
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Kingoffans, arcs don't need to have importance on the main plot to be good. Just look at Enies Lobby Arc. It is a "serious" arc, but it is well-messed up in certain moments.
It depends on opinion really. Most people hate fillers because they don't advance the plot. I just gave my views on how relevant Skypiea is to the plot. That's all.
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I din't really like skypiea.
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Would you care to specify your reasons for not liking it?
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Now now…this thread is just for opinions on the arc, and info...cuz I really dont know that much about it...anyhow, submit pics, screenshots, any real type of media for this arc...also, I require the raw skypiea episodes to make my One Piece abridged series.
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Skypiea had a couple great scenes but Enel's power sucked so much that the whole story got sucked by him. Yes, he's almighty, ye's he got some superiority complex, yes, his design was cool. But I bet he can't even kill a fish in a bowl when he hits it with his lightning.
Still, other than Enel not being to kill anything, the rest was good. There are a couple of scenes that will stay in my memory and follow me to my grave.
1- The first time Pierre the Pegasus transformed. (+1 point due to the fact that Pierre was voiced by the same va than Zoro )
2- The islands in the south are warm~~ Pineapple-ple Their heads get really hot, Aho baka~~
3- Zoro no mane, Sanji no mane(Ordeal of love for god's sake xD), Usopp no mane
4- Zoro returning to the sacrificial alter and NOT recognizing it. xD
5- The Python's family story. Grandpa Python got killed. Papa Python got killed. Python returns to the city of Gold and cries. Sad story.
6- Norland and Calgara's story. Heartbreaking friendship. -
Erm, sorry for going off topic but I'm really worried about how people are saying Thriller Bark sucks. What's really worrying is that its the first major arc after enies lobby and if its bad, it means that Oda-Sensei has lost his touch or he can't come up with anything good any more and that worries me
Nah. Oda hasn't lost his touch just because a few random teenagers don't like his work. Thriller Bark is as fine an arc as any other.
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Kullwet what do you mean enel couldnt kill anyone with his power?
sure a few shandians survived but that guy the priests were hunting near nami got killed (even though konis dad seemed to have survived the same ordeal)
and that biga## advent thunder surely would have killed everyone.
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Plot was lame (nice pointless flashback tho) and did nothing to further the overall narrative. It had a decent premise/theme and a good villian but failed to deliver. Easily my most hated arc ever. Waste of 100+ chapters. Lucky I read it all in one shot, I couldn't bare waiting.
On the positive side, it had Enel and one or two decent fights. Plus I like Zoro's outfit and Gedatsu. The setting was also quite unique too. And like I said, didn't see much purpose in the flashback other than the bell thing, but it was still very good nonetheless. Other than that…........
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Skypiea was awesome.
I like how everyone acts like Ener died as soon as he found out Luffy was rubber.
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Kullwet what do you mean enel couldnt kill anyone with his power?
sure a few shandians survived but that guy the priests were hunting near nami got killed (even though konis dad seemed to have survived the same ordeal)
and that biga## advent thunder surely would have killed everyone.I'm sure it was not only "a few" Shandians but all of them got back on their feet. Wiper was extremely shocked when he saw Laki and everyone else get hit by Enel's lightning. But in the end, everybody survived and they still had energy to party like maniacs. Everyone who built the ark got zapped as well but returned to their family happily. If Conis' dad returned, there are high chances that others who got zapped survived as well. Wiper, himself, survived at least 10 lightning charges. So no need of worrying about the matter of life and death when someone gets hurt my Enel's lightning, he/she 'll get back up in half an hour.
That is, that's what I saw from the anime. I didn't read the manga so I don't know how it happened in the real version.
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About the same thing happened. Regards to Enel, His power sucked? His power was the stronegst thing ever seen in One Piece. An attack that can finish off most opponents in 1 strike, super speed, the ability to know their next move (though that is his mantra it is amplified by his powers). This guy could have crushed crocodile in 1 second flat. Even Aokiji looks like he wouldn't stand a chance since the heat of lightning would melt ice.Just cause most people survived doesn't mean that Enel is weak. It means Oda-Sensei is a big softy who couldn't bear to kill anyone lol. But Enel was fasr from weak. Oda-Sensei once stated in an SBS that had Enel been a pirate in the Blue Seas, he'd have a bounty of 500 million which would be the highest known bounty so far.
Oh and gaara d. lucci, you think Skypiea DIDN'T advance the plot in anyway. Sigh, after that huge ass post, no 1 bothered to read it. Tell you what just scroll up till you reach a long post and I mean really long and you'll see the significance of Sky Island
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We KNOW Oda never kills anyone, but it doesn't exactly help us take a villain seriously if he chooses to draw attention to this fact by having his villain constantly refer to his godlike power, and then fail to correctly smite any of the puny mortals who he focuses (presumably) his full power on. He has the power to destroy a whole island, but not to kill one normal human?
Most other villains, it's ok if they don't finish people off becasue they're regular peopleand thus (mostly) have a certain distaste for unnecessary killing, but Enel thinks he's god, and clearly has no qualms about taking human lives. Plus, his main method of attack is known in our world to be almost definately fatal, unlike swords or fists or guns. Except that he just never manages it.
So in short, he may be incredibly powerful theoretically, indeed more so that many other villains, but the way he's set up makes the 'Oda never kills anyone' thing look too obvious, thus making him a less intimidating and believable villain.
As for the arc in general, however, I really like it, though as usual it ran a little too long. It had some of my favourite fight scenes –Wiper vs. Shura and Enel, Nami and Ganfall against Hotori and Kotori-- short, dynamic bursts of action instead of the long, drawn-out moralising processes that we are all used to ("your pirate ideals are stupid!" "That's the one thing I can't forgive!" etc. etc.), which was refreshing.
The high point for me was just before the final battle, after Luffy loses to Enel the first time- We have Usopp and Nami standing up to the man who just beat Luffy, any way they can (Nami deflecting a thunderbolt with the Climatact = Awesome, "Usopp Spell!"= hilarious).
Also, impact dials. I want one.
Rugged individualist: treats the whole anime as canon
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Lol, well technically Luffy didn't lose to him. Enel, coward that he was, threw him off the ark but Luffy wasn't beaten. He was just inconvenienced XD
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@Mizu:
We KNOW Oda never kills anyone, but it doesn't exactly help us take a villain seriously if he chooses to draw attention to this fact by having his villain constantly refer to his godlike power, and then fail to correctly smite any of the puny mortals who he focuses (presumably) his full power on. He has the power to destroy a whole island, but not to kill one normal human?
Most other villains, it's ok if they don't finish people off becasue they're regular peopleand thus (mostly) have a certain distaste for unnecessary killing, but Enel thinks he's god, and clearly has no qualms about taking human lives. Plus, his main method of attack is known in our world to be almost definately fatal, unlike swords or fists or guns. Except that he just never manages it.
So in short, he may be incredibly powerful theoretically, indeed more so that many other villains, but the way he's set up makes the 'Oda never kills anyone' thing look too obvious, thus making him a less intimidating and believable villain.
As for the arc in general, however, I really like it, though as usual it ran a little too long. It had some of my favourite fight scenes –Wiper vs. Shura and Enel, Nami and Ganfall against Hotori and Kotori-- short, dynamic bursts of action instead of the long, drawn-out moralising processes that we are all used to ("your pirate ideals are stupid!" "That's the one thing I can't forgive!" etc. etc.), which was refreshing.
The high point for me was just before the final battle, after Luffy loses to Enel the first time- We have Usopp and Nami standing up to the man who just beat Luffy, any way they can (Nami deflecting a thunderbolt with the Climatact = Awesome, "Usopp Spell!"= hilarious).
Also, impact dials. I want one.
Look, prove to me that any of the priests besides Gedatsu and Eneru are still alive. At the very least, Shura is dead, and probably Yama. There is no way in lower Cocytus that Shura survived the Reject dial, I'm sorry.
Oda kills people. Just not the people Luffy fights.
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I thought it was pretty fun to read, but it was way too long for an arc that didn't even get a single crewmember… I need to catch up on anime too, I'm still at the episode where Luffy is beating Crocodile with sweat (it WAS blood, but stupid 4kids edit)
Oh yeah, want proof of Oda killing people? Go to the newest episode of ASJ and read the new chapter. Wapol kills some Drum island guy. -
Firefist Ace makes a fair point. When you think about it, Luffy's fists are pretty good non-lethal weapons, being made of rubber- presumably they just stun and incapacitate rather than injuring in the same way as rubber bullets or rubber police batons.
Come to think of it, what about the other strawhats? Zoro uses swords, and he doesn't seem like the type to aim only for their non-vital areas, á la Trigun, so he's probably killed some significant number of all the random henchmen he's met so far (ie, 100 agents on Whiskey peak, etc.). Robin, as well, since her fighting style pretty much seems to revolve around snapping people's necks, and I don't think there's any safe way to do that…And yes, there are a couple of not-very-significant people who definately do die, like the Shandian who gets cut in half by the axe dial near the start of the survival game.
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okay…does anyone have any info on raw skypiea shows?
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Wait so Thriller Bark sucks? Everyone hates it? Oda-Sensei is losing his touch? :sad:
It's just an opinion. Pesonally I thought the same way. It was from this arc onwards when I lost a little interest in OP. To me, Skypiea was way better. But like I say, it's just an opinion. I think most of the others in this forum still like Thriller bark arc.
My youtube video, one-sided sanjixusopp. Listen closely to the lyrics
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Hmm I think I should start a Thriller Bark thread or does it already exist?
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… thought you hadnt read Thriller Bark yet?
and what would be the point of that thread? the arc isnt over yet.
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And like I said, didn't see much purpose in the flashback other than the bell thing, but it was still very good nonetheless.
On the contrary, The Skypea flasback, and Skypea in general can turn out to have massive importance. Think about it.
Shandora = Mystic civilisation destroyed 800 years ago by unknown force.
The city is destroyed defending a mysterious Poneglyph only they could read.
The Poneglyph tells the location of a mysterious superweapon.
ALL THIS FITS INTO THE VOID CENTURY.
So everyone, read chapter 395 again, and see if any bells are rung.
And most curiously: The unknown civilisation and it's ancestors had wings, even while on land, as seen in the Norland flashback. Most curious, if you ask me.
Oh, and I loved Skypea, and it's adventure feel. Awesome characters, humor, and a great finale.
Ps: Participants in survival game: 81. Survivors: 15, including gedatsu and Enel.
That makes for a lot of casualities; and on top of that, Enel killed that guy Nami saw when first visiting upper yard, and the guy who told pagaya about maxim. And then of course, random cicilians with Maxim.
So stop bitching about "lack of death", honestly.
