@sgamer82:
You know, I never thought of it until now, but Jigoro's pretty bad-ass. If he actually took down 7,000 pirates in one shot that is damned amazing. As for the "why", I highly doubt they were after Jigoro personally. They could've just attacked his home island and Jigoroh took matters into his own hands.
On Luffy's numbers, the official damage report was given while Luffy was fighting Blueno. By that time he had defeated 1,000 of EL's 10,000 men. Once he began fighting Blueno, he didn't face any more EL soldiers. Therefore, Luffy's highest total in one shot is one thousand normal men defeated in one go, and two CP9 agents.
It still seems very wrong to me to assume it was all in one go. if they were after him he must have had some amazing treasure for them to even gather a crew so big and have everyoine go after it at the same time. (reasonably a fleet that big would have subcommanders and they would split up to acomplish a number of goals simultaniously)
If it wasnt him personally wouldnt they withdraw well before their casualties reach 7 000 when they come upon such a monster? Why the marines stay and fight at EL i can understand, they are defending their base and beeing marines and all that. but why pirates keep runnning towards their death like that after the first few hundereds are beyond me.
7 000 pirates in a lifetime is an acomplishment as well 7 000 in one go is just unreasonable to me even in the world of OP.
Really was it only 1 k? hmm have to go back and look that up… (Luffy did attack some marines indirectly on a bustercall ship while fighting lucci though =P)
@Gerikhabarovsk:
#. Ussop's lie was 8000 men. Helluva!
uhmm yes thank you.
#. Yes, they could be raid an island where Jogoroh family lived..
they could have i just find it unreasonable.
#. Why not? It likely [and argueable] that people in the past were much stronger than nowadays.. "The World Strongest Swordsman" Mihawk even slay Krieg's 5000 army including Krieg himself and his 2 officer in 7 days and only let 100 of them alive.. You can say Krieg overkill Mihawk or vice versa??
-which question is answered by "why not?" this just makes me loose my trail of thought.
-i dont see any arguments why it is likely that people were stronger in the old days. This is just assumptions.
-I dont agree with you at all on that likeness.
first: there is nothing for anyone to protect so the battle can change locations. Jigoroh was most likely pretty stationary.
secondly: the lone man (in this case mihawk) were the one persueing the many (Don Kreig). He was the one that sought conflict, Jigoroh was not.
#. Who knows the pirates Jigoroh face were weakling or not and including The Captain and his officer? However, The ZG's couldn't be as strong as they was alive.. The ZG's nowadays only share their fame, without the strength and skill they have before.. We don't even know their true power.. I doubt Ryuma and Jigoroh as strong as they used to be.. Defeated them doesn't necessarily make Zoro and Brooke stronger than 2 man who could killed a dragon and 7000 pirates..
We dont know if the pirates, includeing their captain, were weak. i said it "suggests" indicateing its my speculation that it is so. I have nothing to really back this claim up.
Everything you just said about the ZGs beeing stronger when they were alive is pure speculation. the information we have gotten so far is that shadow + body < the new zombie. the sum is more worth then the parts which would indicate that the zombie IS stronger then when they were alive.
), MiHawk could have heard about Ryuuma's legend, so learning that Zoro defeated him will tell him what level Zoro really is now…
