Logia chart, and (I request your input)

Sanctum

Ok, so I have a theory on the types of logias out there. I have a chart to explain my ideas of possible logias to come. I think that there are 5 primary elemental logias, being Fire, Earth, Water, Wind and Electricity. Each of the primary would then react with another primary to create a secondary logia. Kind of like a colour wheel. I won't bother with a diagram, as I'm lazy, I'll just type it.

Possible logia types and combination logias.

Blackbeard's Darkness fruit being the exception here, as it employs the forces of gravity, as opposed to a shadow or light.

(Ionization is similar to healing, i suppose. I had an ionized footbath, and it cleans out toxins in your body, so it kind of would be like of like an antidote to poison, I suppose.)

Now, I seem to have most of these covered, all except for the Wind / Electricity secondary, any ideas what it may be?

Logia's taken:
Fire = Ace
Electricity = Enel
Wind = Dragon???
Smoke = Smoker
Sand = Crocodile
Ice = Aokiji

LogiaFruit6

Even though it is a unique Devil Fruit, where would Blackbeard's Darkness Darkness Fruit fit?

Sanctum

Well, I envision BB's devil fruit to be kind of an anti-thesis to a traditional logia, so, to me, he's a hypocritical logia. He is, but he's not declared an element. He is but is not.

Thanks, though. I'll edit him in.

LogiaFruit6

I believe that there will be a wind-based Logia Fruit, possible eaten by Monkey D. Dragon as shown in Roguetown judging by the convenient lightning and the odd greenish hue of the wind. It could be possibly called the Gale Gale Fruit or Storm Storm Fruit.

Kaze no Barako

Hmm, an element chart eh? Well, it is possible that quite a lot of these logias do exist in the world of OP, but it's not necessary that Oda show us all of them. :3 A magnet fruit would be awesome, though.

@LogiaFruit6:

I believe that there will be a wind-based Logia Fruit, possible eaten by Monkey D. Dragon as shown in Roguetown judging by the convenient lightning and the odd greenish hue of the wind. It could be possibly called the Gale Gale Fruit or Storm Storm Fruit.

On this subject, I also think Dragon has eaten some kind of storm fruit. I don't think, though, that it is a logia - we haven't seen anything that shows that he can become wind, just that he can conjure up storms (if even that, maybe something else caused the weather, though from the situation it did seem like it was Dragon's doing)… I can't wait until we find out what it actually is.

And Loguetown! Loguetown!! -cries-

FireFistAce 0

On the wind category, I'd suggest adding Breath to it. Although Breath is essentially an amalgam of gasses, it could work as a potential Logia, too. In fact, It's possible that Absalom ate it.

Here's why:

1. Breath has an odor: Chopper smelled sakura after Absalom vanished with Nami.
2. Breath is flammable: Absalom's blasts seem to create an explosion effect.
3. Breath is invisible at room temperature: He can vanish and cause other people to vanish by wrapping them in his power.

Oh, and speaking of your theory on the storm storm fruit, it would make more sense. Ouryu, or Dragon Kings, were known to appear as men with serpent hoods or tails, and could bring forth rain/floods/thunderstorms.

Overtaker

Ki fruit = pure energy fruit = ability to transform into pure energy

Kirin D. Cross

Where do fruits like Morias and BBs land on the chart?

@ Overtaker- I have thought that it would be awsome to have a ki fruit.. just as long as it has some weakness..

I do think that Dragon has eaten a wind/storm fruit.

How could be you be a magnet logia.. Because like what is its true form like.. I could see a gravatational logia, but not a magnet logia.

Wouldnt a water logia be a little wierd because they would be there weakness?

Sanctum

@Kirin D. Cross
I think that a water logia would work, as a DF user is weakened by standing water. A water logia, could simply turn into a constant torrent of water, to get around the power loss issue. And I believe it's been said elsewhere that Moria is a paramecia.

Blackbeard has already been addressed, but I'll explain again how I interprete his fruit as:
Envision a pentagon, and at each corner being a primary element, now draw a line from one element to another, and label each line as a secondary element. This would create a pentagram, and I imagine BB's gravity fruit to be located in the center. His fruit is a central element, no being tangible, but being an essence of physics.

Btw, a weakness for a ki fruit would possibly be an energy overload? The user would probably have a limit on how much they can channel safely before it takes it's toll on the body. Probably would entail a proportionate amount of stamina to how much energy you can channel.

@FFA
A breath fruit would more likely be a re-hash of the wind fruit, or would end up being a paramecia as you can't make breath, you naturally emit it.
Unless of course you're implying that we have an carbon dioxide/monoixide fruit, which would be pretty lethal if you're fighting in close quarters.

Cryogen476

@Kirin:

Where do fruits like Morias and BBs land on the chart?

Moria's fruit seems to be Paramecium, so it wouldn't be included in the chart.

A magnet logia fruit would be kinda similar to BB's power, except it couldn't remove DF's abilities or suck things up.

Sanctum

@Cryogen476:

A magnet logia fruit would be kinda similar to BB's power, except it couldn't remove DF's abilities or suck things up.

Yes, automatic repulsion or attraction on all objects with magnetic properties, or metallic properties, in general.

KrnxAJa

Mizu Mizu no Mi was in Movie 2, and Ame Ame no Mi was in Movie 4.

Guybrush Threepwood

maybe a wood wood fruit i know sounds dull but this a world with all kind of wierd things and a wood wood fruits sounds good to me lol

AlmostLegendary

Maybe a sound fruit?

Gorlom

doesnt logia need to be an element? sound is just a wave pattern going through any material.

maybe possible if it was paramecia imo

Edit: magnet logia sounds like a cheap immitation of blackbeards gravity btw

AlmostLegendary

hmmm i guess that makes sense

Kaze no Barako

A magnet logia sounds lame, but a magnet paramecia would be awesome.

Vauny

Don't forget typically the asian elemental charts include wood.
Also your text chart is annoying me here's a neater one

in terms of a magnet logia it would mean they make their body solid metal and hence nothing can injure them

LogiaFruit6

@MonkeyDMalcolm:

Maybe a sound fruit?

In the 1st movie, El Drago posessed the Goe Goe no mi,a.k.a Voice Voice Fruit. He created beams of sound by shouting and it is a paramecia fruit as well.

Kirin D. Cross

@Vauny:

Don't forget typically the asian elemental charts include wood.
Also your text chart is annoying me here's a neater one

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/vauny/chart.jpg

in terms of a magnet logia it would mean they make their body solid metal and hence nothing can injure them

Yea that chart looks alot nicer..
Anyways I would think that wind and thunder would produce like a storm storm fruit type thing.
@ Sanctum. Yea I forgot the SBS thing about how standing water hurts where flowing water doesnt. But yea it would be quite the helpful fruit.

I could see a magnet fruit be much more paramcia over actually being magnet. Cause with it being a para it would be like you could control polar opposites n such.
( If anyone here read Flame of Recca, a character that had a magnet paramecia would be like Jisho from the Uruha)

A lava or plasma type fruit would be badass.
Now where blackbeard is darkness, if there was a light fruit would it be where dark is, or would it be classified with fire?
I wouldnt mind seeing a wood wood fruit, since it is one of the chinese elements, and it would just be overall cool to see..

Just out of thinking about if I was a character with a logia what would some different types I could be.
Cloud- rip off of smoke, just less bada** version.
Ki(energy)- I just think it would be a awsome fruit, kinda like being energy(sue storms energy shield type) just as long as it would be overpowered.
Wood/Tree
Water
Rain- would fall at a mix of wind and water

Gorlom

how would rain be a logia?

also mud..? as a logia? just what would the power be? would the weakness be heat that dries it?

the wood element is intrigueing but… how would blows pass through that element? same goes for metal and earth. thought blackbeards was unique in that aspect.

(btw what is the of the thread? is it supposed to be used as a base for something fictional?)

DrunkenPanda

The mud logia could work like that candy syrup logia. Ofc the weakness to that would be fire. A metal element would work like Mr. 1, but it could sorta work like the T-1000 from Terminator 2. They could be able to reform there body into anyform.

Gorlom

so theres going to be all theese logias around that can only cause physical damage? would get booring kinda fast imo since you can roughly treamt them all the same untill you find their weakness…

what would be the metal weakness if it can reshape btw? metal fatigue?

mud still seems really silly to me, and any shape made solid by it would probably be too brittle anyway. could probably work kinda like how smoker uses his fruit. but im haveing problems validateing (cant find the word i really want) it... Crocodiles Sand fruit was somehow "validated" by beeing "the power of airid" and beeing able to consume any water he touched and so drying it up.

DrunkenPanda

I guess fire can do the trick against metal, thunder would also help.

Sanctum

The only reason I made this thread was because I was bored at work dishwashing, and started thinking about OP.

@Gorlom, A metal logia's weakness would be water or ice, because of rusting and freezing. If the user's body stays in a liquid metal state (kind of lamely similar to the lava logia I've already listed, just not hot), then something cold hitting it would harden it completely, or something of the sort. Fire, would more than likely just make the user more apt to parry an attack.
I'm not going to state this is canon or assume it's true in anyway. I'm just throwing it out there for people to think about.

LogiaFruit6

A mud logia fruit could work like Clayface from the Batman Series.

Gerikhabarovsk

I don't think there's more of Logia fruit chart, because of their rarity..

Almost all of the element has been revealed::sad:
Sand[earth], Ice[water], Smoke[air/wind], Fire, Lightning[light/wind], and Gravity[darkness/ as the anti-thesis]..
Not to mention filer: Toro

Kirin D. Cross

Wood would definetly be a cool fruit to see. Especially since it could have numerous traits. What would be cool is to see a wood fruit be able to kind of root itself into a person and drain the life or water out.

FireFistAce 0

Blood would be interesting. How cool would a fighter who can turn into blood be? Plus, he could coagulate it around his opponents.

Selph

@KrnxAJa:

Mizu Mizu no Mi was in Movie 2, and Ame Ame no Mi was in Movie 4.

It wasn't Mizu Mizu. It was Liquid Liquid I believe, and although there doesn't seem to be much difference I think the only reason to have it Liquid Liquid instead of Mizu Mizu is because Oda has yet to use the Water element for a major One Piece character.

Angel emfrbl

Crystal… That would be intereasting as a Logia.

Mizu Patsy

I'm fairly sure the Candy Candy fruit that Gasparde had in movie 4 was a paramecia, not a logia. All he could do was turn himself into candy, not create it out of the air.
Also, a logia element doesn't have to be non-solid to make them invulnerable– think of Ao Kiji reforming after getting smashed by Robin and Luffy.

(Which, off-topic, makes me think about how Aokiji works in general. He seems to be made more of cold than ice per se: When he attacks, for instance when he kills that seaking the first time we see him, he doesn't make any ice, he just freezes the sea. So perhaps any ice which he can create is really only water vapour from the air which he can freeze by creating an area of cold air.
So if he appears to be made of ice, but suffers no damage if it is broken, is it not more likly that his true form is an invisible area of cold air shaped like a man that condenses airborne liquids to make itself solid?
Um, yeah. Sorry to go on like that.)

Gorlom

Mizu Patsy:
Mr 3 had the wax paramecia. he created wax "out of the air" but wasnt able to turn himself into any wax form to avoid damage.

but the movie 4 DF isnt really canon is it?

Edit: I have no idea where im going with this… =P

Angel emfrbl

I'm sure Movie 4 said it was Logia… O.o'

Rewatch... "My body is made of candy syrpt"... Yatta, Yatta Ya... "When I'm not candy Surpt it hurts"... "not hurt by guns or fists"...

As for powers... He reformed like an Logia... He turned hands into a spike. He abosobed the damaged by altering form. I mean the bounty hunter dude split the guys head in half and he reformed it. but you know what... I can't find ia ref where it says Logia anywhere, or any group references at all. He displays all but the ability to produce CS in his abilities.

GrandDarkLord

I've always thought that a cool logia to see would be one that lets the user turn into a storm of tree leaves or flower petals. Blood would be cool too.

Ne0

I edited the previous table to make another one…

Polarity - Can attract or repel almost any object.
Light - Electromagnetic Radiation
Sound - the correct type(frequency) of sound can destroy(destablize) almost anything
Darkness - the void itself / Blackhole

Selph

Candy Syrup man is a logia… Mr Wax was a paramecia...

It looks to me like Oda is going to portray all three stages of water
Ice
Water
Steam

He has already done Ice, but where do the others lie? perhaps Ki Zaru and Aka Inu hold these fruits?

Kirin D. Cross

I doubt we will see a steam fruit, it wouldn't make a great fruit. Blood would be cool, but its similarities to water would be a little to much.

I hope that he doesnt introduce to many more logias

Kakaliaha

I still say swarms would be a good Logia fruit, like the user can turn into a colony of wasps, or a colony of ants, or Locusts, anything that swarms I would make it difficult to fight and interesting.

Gorlom

since he would still technically have a living body then he would be awesomly screwed over by other logias…

also what would happened if you smashed some of the insects?

and just what "element" would a swarm logia be?

Kirin D. Cross

@Gorlom:

how would rain be a logia?

Rain is not a stand still form of water, which means that since it moves it could be a logia. But I was kinda joking about it, since no doubt a water logia could produce rain.

the wood element is intrigueing but… how would blows pass through that element?

Well since wood is hard one would have to be pretty powerful to blow through it. And if someone were to hit the wood logia users body hard enough the wood would probably just break into splinters.

same goes for metal and earth.

Yea metal would be pretty difficult to make a blow go through. But my question is, if someone were to have a metal logia wouldnt someone of Zoros level or higher be able to just cut through it?

And I think earth will be a logia, since its one of the four basic elements.

I would like to say a few possible abilities of a wood logia.
It would be pretty awesome regrowth after being formed, It could like branch out.
Could possible suck out water/nutrients out of a opponents body.
Could create a forest of domination lol.

Gerikhabarovsk

How about Ash? Dust?
and why Shadow isn't logia?:wassat: It would be cool..

Captain Shmeckie

@Kirin:

Could possible suck out water/nutrients out of a opponents body.

So… it would be Crocodile with wood?!