It seems that they won't "win" until the Winter War.
Bleach Discussion
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Hey does anyone know where to get those Arrancar them songs?
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I kinda feel like Kubo is stretching the storyline a bit. I could definitely see the last 2 chapters resolved in 1, and the Rukia fight was truly dragging. I guess the Winter War really is the last storyline, and he is stalling a bit to make Bleach longer, and him more richer.
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I guess the Winter War really is the last storyline, and he is stalling a bit to make Bleach longer, and him more richer.
Very profound, analrapist.
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The pace has been kind of slow, but I've still been enjoying Bleach.
I really don't see Ulquiorra as "Byakuya II," but that's me. I actually really enjoy Ulquiorra, and I hated Byakuya. I just kind of like how "straight to business" he is, as well as how much of a dick he is.
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@Janken:
Very profound, analrapist.
What can I say, I'm a conspiracist.
Also, if you may have misconceptions about my title,
the anal is pronounced the same way as analyst, rapist the same
as therapist. Combination of both, see. Arrested Development
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Geez, there are alot of Espada Kenpatchis, I just realized.
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I'm more than a little annoyed that so many people are desperate to compare the Espada and the G13 captains. Ulquiorra's "the new Byakuya" because they're both arrogant and stoic? "There are alot of Espada Kenpatchis?" Bullshit. There's a difference between similarities and mimicry, fellas. Is it so hard to accept that they're different characters with similar personality traits?
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Yes. Yes it is.
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I'm more than a little annoyed that so many people are desperate to compare the Espada and the G13 captains. Ulquiorra's "the new Byakuya" because they're both arrogant and stoic?
its not just that, its that their involvement in the plot is playing currently exactally the same role.
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Something random I just noticed. The Oldman's hollow mask remains are a crown. More clues to him being the primero?
Sorry if I'm late with this revelation :3
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its not just that, its that their involvement in the plot is playing currently exactally the same role.
And what role is that? Ichigo's final opponent? Too early to tell. The guy that Ichigo has unsuccessfully fought against with a final showdown pending? No, this is the first time Ulquiorra's fought Ichigo straight on. Other than the fact that Ulquiorra is the guy that brought Orihime in, I don't see any specific storyline parallels bewteen the two other than personality differences. But whatever. I still think all of you are jumping the gun by making all of these wacky assumptions.
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Ichigo's final opponent is obviously Vaizard Aizen.
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That was extremely obvisous
Hell i think renji's Final Fight will be Vaizard Gin
And if rukia turns the suck of she may fight Tousen
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Yeah, but with Gin and Tousen, it would make a lot of sense for them to fight Komamura and Matsumoto.
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Something random I just noticed. The Oldman's hollow mask remains are a crown. More clues to him being the primero?
Sorry if I'm late with this revelation :3
That's another thing I noticed , but I'm going to wait before assuming it means anything.
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@Impel:
Yeah, but with Gin and Tousen, it would make a lot of sense for them to fight Komamura and Matsumoto.
It might make even more sense for Gin and Tousen to fight Hitsugaya and Zaraki. We'll have to wait and see.
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Yeah, I've been waiting for Kenpachi to come out of nowhere and kill Tousen again.
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Since Ulqiorra is 4, is Tousen, Gin and Aizen respectively numbers 3~1?
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Since Ulqiorra is 4, is Tousen, Gin and Aizen respectively numbers 3~1?
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no.
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Ooohhh, I just noticed something!
Since it appears that there is a huge power gap between Grimmjaw and Ulqiorra(Grimmy gets a scar from a non-Vaizard Getsuga Tenshou, while Ulqiorra escapes from a Vaizard one relatively unscathed) but there is only 2 levels of difference in their Espada rank, then could Bleach pull a Baroque Works where the top 5 espadas are grossly more powerful than the ones below them? -
Ooohhh, I just noticed something!
Since it appears that there is a huge power gap between Grimmjaw and Ulqiorra(Grimmy gets a scar from a non-Vaizard Getsuga Tenshou, while Ulqiorra escapes from a Vaizard one relatively unscathed) but there is only 2 levels of difference in their Espada rank, then could Bleach pull a Baroque Works where the top 5 espadas are grossly more powerful than the ones below them?Why not? It certainly seems that Grimmjow is significantly weaker than Ulquiorra and that Arroniro is significantly weaker than Grimmjow, so it's quite possible that Espadas 1-3 are that much stronger than Ulquiorra. Again, we'll have to wait and see. We don't even know which of the five remaining Espadas are in those top three yet.
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Are Gin and Tousen > the Espada? Because it seems like they are a lot weaker, yet they boss them around.
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I think Gin might be but I kind of doubt Tousen is. Then again, maybe he held back against Kenpachi (though I have no idea why he would) but unless Aizen also taught them how to get more power somehow I have to sort of doubt they're much more powerful than the Espada.
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Im sure there's another power - up beyond bankai sometime in the future. I know this isn't what we want, but it may happen.
Personally, I think Gin and Tousen probably can go Vaizard just like Ichigo. Aizen can/maybe a Vastro Lord, since we haven't even seen one yet, who knows what they can be.
On another note, this chapter may be a turning point in the arc, unless Kubos gonna go back to the Renji fight. These guys need to be rescued, now. Unless Ichigo goes completely Hollow again, he can't even touch Ulquiorra. And theres still the top 3 who probably don't even deem team Ichigo as a threat. Though Yammi is probably cowering in fear.
I really hope this next chapter is good. We need to leave this arc in the past, and prove that its futile to go into the hollow stronghold.
Hopefully next arc we get to meet the leader of the Vaizards, and Ichigo is called a retard for not knowing how to fight.
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The primero Espada probably won't be revealed until the very end. coughstarkcough
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My guess is that everyone's going to get captured, and Aizen is going to be very interested in Ichigo's Hollow powers, because he understands that the only way he can stronger is to cross the line between hollow and shinigami himself. Bottom line, Aizen is going to seek out the Vaizard, but I have no idea what's going to happen to Ichigo and his crew.
Also, is Orihime going to follow through on her plan to erase the orb of distortion? If she does that, then Aizen might lose interest in her and try to kill her or something, but I have no idea.
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I want Orihime to kill Ulq in the very end.
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@Impel:
The primero Espada probably won't be revealed until the very end. coughstarkcough
And by the way, your Spanish is a little improper. You should say either "primer Espada", "Espada primero", or "Espada uno". If Halibel turns out to be number one, then change primero and uno to primera and una. I'm not sure if Kubo wants to use ranked numbers (ie primero, segundo, tercero) or integers (ie uno, dos, tres) because Ulquiorra and the Numeros used integers (cuatro instead of cuarto, trece instead of decimotercero) but Grimmjow clearly used ranked numbers (sexto instead of seis). Whatever, Kubo clearly has a fairly strong knowledge of Spanish, but he hasn't been 100% correct with all of it.
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@Impel:
I want Orihime to kill Ulq in the very end.
audience laughter
She couldn't even touch a 4th seat shinigami, so how'd she take on someone 100 times stronger than that?
The only way I can see this not ending with Ichigo getting owned up and down Hueco Mundo is the Vizards coming to the rescue.
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I'm having trouble believing Stark is the strongest espada. It's definitely not Noitora. If I know Kubo, and he's pretty predictable, the black guy is most likely primero. He likes having stoic characters as the strongest. The old guy has the crown though.. I wish we could know, so all this speculation would end!!
Please, begin the rescuing next chapter.
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i dont think we will get that lucky
i for see hollow coming out and coming out full force.
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I don't see why Ichigo doesn't just let his hollow go crazy on Espada.
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Because the guy has no common sense. He wouldn't even be in Hueco Mundo if he had half a brain. Imagine if Renji and Rukia didn't come.
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He's Ichigo, if he had half a brain, he would've been killed by the Hollow in chapter 1. Now that Ichigo has been out classed, we just wait for the badass rescue. I'm hoping for Ryoken, Isshin, Urahara, and Yoruichi, as they're the only shinigami/quincy who'll come.
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I would like to see the Soul Reapers(not all of them) and Vaizards to come to Hueco Mundo and i gonna call the Black guy Spike (because he has spikes on his head) intill Kudo gives him a name
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I suppose it's entirely likely that a Soul Society shinigami will show up, seeing as some of them couldn't care less about orders. I could see Shunsui, Kenpachi, and the rest of their divisions showing up. I don't really care, as long as Hitsugaya or Byakuya don't come.
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@Mr.:
I suppose it's entirely likely that a Soul Society shinigami will show up, seeing as some of them couldn't care less about orders. I could see Shunsui, Kenpachi, and the rest of their divisions showing up. I don't really care, as long as Hitsugaya or Byakuya don't come.
I agree with Hitsugaya and Byakuya i would like to see more Bankais from the other captains and Yachiru's Bankai
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I still hope the Vaizard come. Only other people who have a reason to come is the Urahara shop. And Urahara and gang is very over played. If the anime opening is any indicator, then the same old people will be coming, but we have no idea if the anime is actually canon material.
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I agree with Hitsugaya and Byakuya i would like to see more Bankais from the other captains and Yachiru's Bankai
First thing's first; Yachiru hasn't even shown her shikai yet. Hitsugaya has the most unimpressive bankai compared to the other captains. And the two bankais I want to see the most are Yamamoto's and Kyoraku's.
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Well, I'm hoping that the Vaizard come to Hueco Mundo to. There in dire need of help.
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If I was a shinigami, personally, I'd love to just travel to Huedo every now and then and slaughter hollows.
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Good thing you're not a shinigami, you'd definitely be dead right now.
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Which I don't think is a bad thing right now
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I concur.
16 characters of agreement
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@Cap'n:
Which I don't think is a bad thing right now
I didn't want to be the one to say it ^_^;
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We need something to happen, because this is just going no where
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I can't wait for this to get animated. HC has had some neat combat, and IMO the single major improvement in between anime and manga is actionized combat.
But yeah, I'll throw out my own wacky prediction: old dude is el primero, Stark is el segundo, Noitora is el tercero, Halibel is la quinta, and black dude is el septimo. I could be wrong, but so could everyone else. I'm still holding out for Yamamoto vs. Old Dude near the manga's conclusion. That could rock so hard…
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lol the spoiler on MH is priceless
Chapter begins with
Ichigo is awoken by a old friend Zangetsu,
Zangetsu: Its time i tell you the true extent of your soul and how to use the hollow powers but most importantly i will teach you to unlock me and use my true bankai
After a many pages of detail explaination about his soul he then tells Ichigo it will take him a certain amount of time to teach him how to use the real bankai but for now use the power i unlocked for you.
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Hahaha.
….I'm afraid of laughing too much in case it turns out true but I'm holding out that Kubo wouldn't become that lame.