did anyone ever think about elbaf the giants island..i mean itz been stated that it was in the first half of the grand line and its a major part of usopps plot development so who here thinks that elbaf will be a arc before the fishman arc because i really believe that the fishman arc is gonna be a big major 100 chapter arc simply for the fact that it might im saying might be the last island of the first half of the grand line so elbaf might be the next arc!
Another arc after triangle and before fishman island
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Hmm that could happen, but Kokoro-san already said that their next island is Fishman Isle and between them stands Florian Triangle. I think Elbaf would have been mentioned if it were in their way.
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I'm so very very confused.
Will Elbaf be before Fishman Isle? Probably not.
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http://groups.msn.com/OnePieceMangav-2/onepiece435hq.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=9833
The next island is the merman island.
EDIT: where it has been stated that Elbaf is on the first half of GL?
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if it is true that mermaid island is next after the triangle then that would mean that mermaid island is indeed not the next island or hey just a theroy but what if elbaf and mermaid island are the same! like mermaid island is underground right underneath elbaf and like the fishman like are gonna have a war with the giants lol that would be kind of cool really and the strawhats are right in the middle of the conflict i mean it would be gay if mermaid island wasnt the last island on the 1st half because usopp has to go to elbaf for his development
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http://groups.msn.com/OnePieceMangav-2/onepiece431mqhq.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=9465
sorry double post i think by this that elbaf is on the first half unless these guys can travel to the first half by second with ease….
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Mermen Island and Elbaf being one in the same would be overkill.
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if it is true that mermaid island is next after the triangle then that would mean that mermaid island is indeed not the next island
Eh?
And why couldn't they go to Elbaf later?
EDIT: That doesn't prove Elbaf is on the first half of GL. We don't know how people get to the New World. Why couldn't the giants travel between the parts of GL?
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yeh you might be right i just thought that merman island was the last island of the 1st half
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It might be. Elbaf could well be in the New World.
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Elbaf can easily be on the first half, and not be the next island the strawhats go to. The strawhats follow the Log Port and Elbaf might be on one of the other (I think 7…) ways that you can follow around the Grandline.
Maybe they somehow find a eternal Log Port which guides to Elbaf, so that Usopp can get his developpement. -
What would happen if Elbaf was just Water7 Part II Electric Boogaloo?
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Elbaf is possibly on the redline
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Oh god no. I hope not. Heres a few reasons to back me up.
One, we JUST had a giant (Moria). More would just make the plot boring.
Two, Fishman Island is highly anticipated and fans would be disgruntled if it doesn't come out after Thriller Bark.
Three, Giants are generally ugly (unless they are evil and have zombie followers), so characters would be boring.
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I'll agree with Moria on those points.
From what we've seen, Giants seem to hang around the GL mostly. Only Saul wasn't in the GL and he was a Marine so went whereever he was stationed. We know the Island is somewhere in the GL.
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Three, Giants are generally ugly (unless they are evil and have zombie followers), so characters would be boring.
No.
A character possessing traits of 'ugliness' does not make him/her boring. Some people, such as Cyringohn, prefer fuck-ugly characters.
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http://groups.msn.com/OnePieceMangav-2/onepiece431mqhq.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=9465
sorry double post i think by this that elbaf is on the first half unless these guys can travel to the first half by second with ease….
to me what the giants are saying indicates that Elbaf is somewhat out of the Strawhats way…
probably in the first part of GL and they already passed it, either that or somewhere in the second half. not close to W7.
Isnt Elbaf like Usopps One Piece? i see him getting there very late in the series.
While Elbaf is a village rather then an island i think i have seen it refered to as beeing situated on an island which would rule out it beeing on the Red line but i am not really sure about this.
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@Cyringohn:
No.
A character possessing traits of 'ugliness' does not make him/her boring. Some people, such as Cyringohn, prefer fuck-ugly characters.
Well, I just mean people who don't look like complete assholes. Eneru was a faggot but had a decent appearance. I mean he wore a headband and looked like a white guy wannabe gangster but still he looked somewhat cool. Every giant I've seen so far have been unappealing. I mean there fat, nostrils are big and they act retarded. Buggy wasn't much of a looker but he was pretty cool due to his clownish appearance. A big fat retarded big-nostriled guy with an axe is a bagful of snores to me.
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Go say that in the medieval netherlands…
I'm thinking that Elbaf is a little bit past the redline, seeing as it can't be on the redline, as it's a piece of land mass intruding into the GL. And if Elbaf was in the first half of the GL, then I think we would've seen a lot more giants and they'd probably be considered more of the norm.
And what's to say that all giants are like that? The only giants we've seen with those fighting styles are a handful. I count five in all. We might see a giant sniper to be Ussop's inspiration or something.
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Somebody needs to clarify so this doesn't get out of hand.
Is it Merman Island? Or is it Fishman Island? Oda has made it clear that both species are different, and according to the link above, Kokoro states that it is Merman Island that is beneath the ocean.
So Fishman Island must be later on, along with Elbaf.
After the Florian Triangle, they'll get to Merman Island. And then who knows, there is probably one more island that they have to reach before hitting the Red Line again (the halfway point of the Grand Line).
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Fishman island I think..
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Yes it's Gyojin (Fishman) Island, but like Kokoro said mer-people live there too.
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if it is true that mermaid island is next after the triangle then that would mean that mermaid island is indeed not the next island or hey just a theroy but what if elbaf and mermaid island are the same! like mermaid island is underground right underneath elbaf and like the fishman like are gonna have a war with the giants lol that would be kind of cool really and the strawhats are right in the middle of the conflict i mean it would be gay if mermaid island wasnt the last island on the 1st half because usopp has to go to elbaf for his development
Someone please like kill like this man lolz :getlost:
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Go say that in the medieval netherlands…
I'm thinking that Elbaf is a little bit past the redline, seeing as it can't be on the redline, as it's a piece of land mass intruding into the GL. And if Elbaf was in the first half of the GL, then I think we would've seen a lot more giants and they'd probably be considered more of the norm.
And what's to say that all giants are like that? The only giants we've seen with those fighting styles are a handful. I count five in all. We might see a giant sniper to be Ussop's inspiration or something.
(A giant sniper would be badass, with like two giant cannons as a double barrel hand gun)Okay, Ill just waltz over to medieval netherlands because everone knows its still around. :getlost: I think this thread has gone on long enough… His question has basically been answered and speculated.
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if another arc after triangle and b4 merman island occurs i hope alll who predicted it DIE IN HELL!!!!!!!!!!!
(KIDDING)
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Voodzik vbmenu_register("postmenu_529398", true); dont dogg me because of my theorys dude…wow sorry if i dont live up to your expectations...:wassat:
I believe Voodzik was being more ironic then accusing you of not living up to his expectations.
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Someone please like kill like this man lolz :getlost:
What's wrong with his theory? It sounded decent IMO. I've seen worse theories around.
My youtube video, one-sided sanjixusopp. Listen closely to the lyrics
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Well, I just mean people who don't look like complete assholes. Eneru was a faggot but had a decent appearance. I mean he wore a headband and looked like a white guy wannabe gangster but still he looked somewhat cool. Every giant I've seen so far have been unappealing. I mean there fat, nostrils are big and they act retarded. Buggy wasn't much of a looker but he was pretty cool due to his clownish appearance. A big fat retarded big-nostriled guy with an axe is a bagful of snores to me.
That is why Wanze was one of the worst characters in One Piece.
He was extremly annoying too.
We'll probably see Elbaf sooner or later. Maybe in the New World?
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I think whenever Oda is ready to reveal Elbaf, New World or not, he'll bring it out and we will be impressed. (though one part of me sees that their island has to be immense, considering the size perspective of a giant on Little Garden…for all we know, it could be a massive island if it isn't on the Red Line continent) While there could be another obstacle post-Thriller Bark, I think we're going straight to Fishman Island next.
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Im guessing that Fishman island will bea slightly longer saga, maybe around 80 chapters, Luffy will fight Jinbei, get his tenth and final crew member, then head into the New World. Elbaf is probably in the New World at this stage and will probably not come up in the near future.
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Im guessing that Fishman island will bea slightly longer saga, maybe around 80 chapters, Luffy will fight Jinbei, get his tenth and final crew member, then head into the New World. Elbaf is probably in the New World at this stage and will probably not come up in the near future.
in before someone asks who is supposed to be the 9th member (as by one way of counting Brook would be the 8th.)
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With some of the revelations in more recent chapters
! is it possible that Oz built Elbaf? He was stealing entire islands and using them to make a new landmass, known as a "country of criminals"
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interesting thought, but i think it would be hard to integrate after this chapter is over. and unless zombies still have the memories of their last life it wont be revealed in this chapter.
(since Moria tells Oz who he is i dont think they really rember anything)What the…? Holy smurf am I slow! Until this statement of yours I never even realized that an octopus is actually serving octopusballs. Talk about not seeing the forest because of too many trees. facepalm
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pleazeee not….....
want now the fights in thriller bark ....than a big arc at fishman island with jinbei...maybe a new mermaid-member(would be perfect) and than the SH should enter the New World.....elbaf must be located their cause of usopp that must be goal for the SH and dont believe after theyre at ne NW they go back to the first half of the GL----before they found the OP---- and than they go to laboon and so on and so on
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Well they haven't visited every island in the GL and I'd like it to stay that way. I'm doubting Luffy will pick up a member at Fishman island now Brook has entered the scene, I have a feeling it will be like Skypiea.
Anyway, I'm hoping Toei doesn't insert fillers in between w7 and FT or FT and fishman island. That way we move onto the next arcs quickly and keep intereasts high. However after the Naruto fillers, we might see some reguardless, which I dread, maybe not up to a year like with Naruto though . I'd dread it if it they did fillers for a year for OP. The DBFs were bad enough… They came out from the G8 filler, and ended with the OD fillers. It was like a whole year of bad TV.
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i don't see how Elbaf is a goal of the Straw hats.
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not for the mugiwaras as a whole but its kinda like the OP (or atleast like Luffys strawhat) for Usopp.
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WTF? Why was this bumped?
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zerochan had taken a break from the forum and spotted this thread just recently
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With the exception of Sauro all the other giants seems to be pursued by the World Government and I won´t be surprised if one of the Yonkou has the power over Elbaf and is a giant.
Next Arc a filler before Fishmen Island? I believe that we will see Blackbeard giving a defeated Ace to the WG and moving Whitebeard and Shanks from a passive position to an offensive position against WG and Shichibukai and we will see only the beginning of the conflict before the jump to Fishmen arc.
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all the other giants? we only know about 1 pirate crew that comes frtom elbaf. its possible that most of the elbaf giants arent pirates.
and as far as we know no west blue giant is wanted by the marines.
What the…? Holy smurf am I slow! Until this statement of yours I never even realized that an octopus is actually serving octopusballs. Talk about not seeing the forest because of too many trees. facepalm
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They may not be pirates, but the elbaf giants are guaranteed to be warriors. And since warriors have to be at war with someone to stay relevant, there are only really three options for the current political state of Elbaf:
A: They are led by the remaining shichibukai and fight indirectly for the World Government even though it chafes their warrior pride.
B: They are actively fighting against the WG and are allied with Dragon's faction.
They are led by a Yonkou (Kaidoh maybe?)and are fighting everyone.Option C is the most probable because Elbaf giants wouldn't allow the WG to manipulate them nor understand the complex motivations of a revolutionary. Also, it would be hard to imagine the WG force their will on the an island full of oimo's and kashi's. Would a buster call even work on an island full of giants?
There is one other option of course: Elbaf has been destroyed or taken over by devil fruit users. This could be done by Donflamingo with his puppet powers or some other devil fruit user that is immune to physical damage. None of the four known Elbaf giants have heard from home in over a hundred years so any number of catastrophes could have befallen their island in that time.
Also Gorlom, elbaf isn't a dream or treasure to Usopp. Elbaf is to Usopp what Gol D. Roger is to Luffy. The giants are role models and inspirations not goals. Usopp's dream is to be like them, not to meet them.
Oh, and to the original poster: We'll see Elbaf in the New World. If Oda brought laboon back into the story then we can expect to see Elbaf as well. Because Fishman island is next after Thriller Bark, and has been said to be near the Red Line, the only way for the strawhats to visit Elbaf is after crossing into the new world.
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a warrior needs to be at war? (isnt usopps dream to become a brave warrior of the sea?) fantasy warriors doesnt really have to be at war imo.
what if they are merely roaming warriors that tend to be more like brawlers then soldiers?
then they can fight seakings/dragons/mermen/random pirates/whoever attacks their homes/some yet unknown race residing in the OP world without beeing led by a yonkou imo.
You dont think Luffy would want to meet Gol D Roger if he was still alive? To Usopp Elbaf is probably like a pink wonderland under a rainbow filled with unicorns is to a little girl. Think Usopp would have some regretts if he died without ever going to Elbaf.
What the…? Holy smurf am I slow! Until this statement of yours I never even realized that an octopus is actually serving octopusballs. Talk about not seeing the forest because of too many trees. facepalm
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then they can fight seakings/dragons/mermen/random pirates/whoever attacks their homes/some yet unknown race residing in the OP world without beeing led by a yonkou imo.
My point is that if they are doing that as a nation of giants…. wouldn't they just be a realllllly strong pirate crew of around yonkou level of strength?
As for Usopp, of course he wants to go to elbaf at some point. But he can accomplish his dream without ever going there. The same can not be said of Luffy and One Piece.
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I actually don't see anything wrong with this thread, except it was a little hard to understand the first post's point at the beggining.
I doubt Elbalf will be on the Red Line. I have no logic to back this up, but I really doubt that Elbalf will be somewhere late in the new world. Besides, Nami's logpose was already pointing downward back in Water 7.
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I think Elbaf is on the red line and now alot of people want to see jinibea the fishman God of Pirate.
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@Gerchak:
Somebody needs to clarify so this doesn't get out of hand.
Is it Merman Island? Or is it Fishman Island? Oda has made it clear that both species are different, and according to the link above, Kokoro states that it is Merman Island that is beneath the ocean.
Actually, both instances refer to what is Gyojintou in Japanese, which is most correctly "Fishman Island." "Merman Island" is a mistake that replicates the previous mistakes of both Kaizoku-Fansubs and 4Kids, though Kokoro does tell us that there are Merfolk there.
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i think elbaf might end up being the first island the strawhats will land on after they cross into the new world.
