Well there's no proof of him having a string string fruit. If it was certain then yeah, it would depend on character strength to break his strings. But until we see how his powers function we can't really compare him.
Shichibukai Discussion
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Yes, i agree. But, I want to Add more:
If it's true that his power close to string:#1. He can't control Moria due to his Giant strength. And Moria's bounty is 370M > 340 him.
#2. He can't control Logia user due to vague body. Which was place Crocodile the same rank with him[Shichibukai] even his bounty "only" 81M.
#3. He can't control any top tier people or people with enormous strength.
#4. He can't control Mihawk, which is above him and share World Class Title with WB. He can easily annihilate his string because of his Master Swordsman level, even with his buttler knife.
#5. He didn't attack Sengoku, due to his goat. The goat will eat his string :p Hahaha -
Yes, i agree. But, I want to Add more:
If it's true that his power close to string:#1. He can't control Moria due to his Giant strength. And Moria's bounty is 370M > 340 him.
#2. He can't control Logia user due to vague body. Which was place Crocodile the same rank with him[Shichibukai] even his bounty "only" 81M.
#3. He can't control any top tier people or people with enormous strength.
#4. He can't control Mihawk, which is above him and share World Class Title with WB. He can easily annihilate his string because of his Master Swordsman level, even with his buttler knife.
#5. He didn't attack Sengoku, due to his goat. The goat will eat his string :p HahahaWell if his ability really is a string string fruit there is no denying any of that(well maybe the goat bit haha).
The only part I disagree on is this
And Moria's bounty is 370M > 340 him.
Bounties don't equal power and even if they did, all of the shichibukai's bounties are frozen. Moria's could be higher due to the fact he joined later and kuma's lower due to the fact of joining earlier.
And sorry for copying your colour, I couldn't change it back to black
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we dont know Morias bounty, the 370 million was a fake spoiler
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Aah.. Myfault..
Indeed, bounty refer as overall threat such person is.. Your explanation make sense, but it's safe and reliable to assuming OP level by bounty..*Like compare the Richest people in the world: Doesn't care of how many company he have or how many employee he have. The point is their wealth, and ranking them in 1 to 100..
But, they do it periodically, every 1 year or so. There's chance of rank rotary.. -
Please stay on topic and do not insult other people in any way. This warning goes to:
Janken Jack
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i think mihawk right now is no2 is the world after WB but i expect a comeback from BB and dragon that seemed like monsters that their powers are unknown
i think mihawk is the strongest schichibukai right now,dunno if BB will become one or if he will be/is stronger than mihawk,i speculate he isn't even stronger than shanks but i don't write the manga,oda does
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oceanizer was Morias response so wrong? i thought it was a rather nice response that merely implied Janken Jack should be nicer in the future.
Gerikhabarovsk: its not really that safe to assume power by bounty since the shichibukais bounties has been frozen and will not increase anymore since they arent a threat to WG as they are now sanctioned.
We could assume that Oda still wants to use the bounties as indicators but its far from safe imo. -
Tashigi, (and Kuina), and Nojiko have animal names too. Not that I believe one of them is a shichibukai…
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ooh oh! please tell me how they have animal names as i dont know how or why or when!
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Tashigi = Gallinago gallinago (Common snipe)
Kuina = Rallus aquaticus (Water rail)
Nojiko = Emberiza sulphurata (Yellow bunting)They are all birds. If some of the names are wrong, feel free to correct me.
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Please stay on topic and do not insult other people in any way. This warning goes to:
Janken Jack
Moria
HawkeyeWhat did I do? I created this thread, and then this guy just insults it for no reason… I'm not going to call him a good person.
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Tashigi, (and Kuina), and Nojiko have animal names too. Not that I believe one of them is a shichibukai…
Nojiko was recently shown like someone in the 440's. So its not her. Kuina's dead, but ti would make a surprise, but I doubt it. Tashigi hasn't been shown recently… so you never know. :ninja:
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Nojiko was recently shown like someone in the 440's. So its not her. Kuina's dead, but ti would make a surprise, but I doubt it. Tashigi hasn't been shown recently… so you never know. :ninja:
Those characters being shichibukais makes about as much sense as the characters you listed in your first post.
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Those characters being shichibukais makes about as much sense as the characters you listed in your first post.
I didn't suggest them. The seventh one is probably Luffy's Mom.
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Nojiko was recently shown like someone in the 440's. So its not her. Kuina's dead, but ti would make a surprise, but I doubt it. Tashigi hasn't been shown recently… so you never know. :ninja:
Way to be Point misser Mcgee.
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Pfffft, it's so obvious.
GAIMON.
You have to have one Shichibukai with the power of the afro!
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Pfffft, it's so obvious.
GAIMON.
You have to have one Shichibukai with the power of the afro!
He'll bust out of his box to reveal some finely chiseled abs and boxing gloves.But is Gaimon even an animal? And if we were have to have a Shichibukai with an afro I would prefer Brook.
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But is Gaimon even an animal? And if we were have to have a Shichibukai with an afro I would prefer Brook.
Sure he is! hes a bloody pokemon!
or maybe that hippo guy that ate the factory factory fruit is the 7th shichibukai? (drum island king)
he has an underling that channels the power of the affro… he has to be powerfull! -
But is Gaimon even an animal? And if we were have to have a Shichibukai with an afro I would prefer Brook.
He's a flipping tree. He has a green afro. He obviously has the wood logia.
Afro + Wood logia = Pwnage
Afro + Wood logia + Box = ShitThe box is obviously a purposeful hindrance used for training purposes.
And a tree is a living thing, right? Who says that shichibukai have to be based on animals? They've all been based on animals, but they're all living beings, so it's possible to extend the possibilities of shichibukai organism references.Brooke obviously carries the afro of TRUTH.
( I think WHITEBEARD and Phenomenal may be hiding inside of it) -
So far, Mihawk seem the strongest off all Bukai i've seen..
I read a post that poll for Jack Sparrow =P -
It is really hard to say who will be the strongest Shichibukai. We haven't even seen the 7th member! For all we know Kuma might be the strongest. I would like to wait and see everyone's skills.
FYI: Shichibukai is "Seven World of the Sea" !!!
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OH MY GOD!
This thread disgusts me so much I think I'm gonna puke!
How can it happen this wasn't closed by a mod 'til now…?
All you do here is throwing in wild guesses at your whim without having ANY idea of the material... this is so much like the american election, I can't stand this!
First:
How can you assume who is the strongest Shichibukai? You know nothing, yes absoltely nothing about most of the guys you're "voting" about.
Let me put it more understandable for the slower ones:
You know NOTHING about the power of Doflamingo, you just got a glimpse on in what direction is goes.
You know absoultely NOTHING about Bartholomew Kuma.
You know absolutely NOTHING about Jimbei.
You know NOTHING about Moria, exept that his bounty was higher than Luffy's and that he's big.
You don't know very much about Jaruquille Mihawk all you've seen is him fighting a much weaker Zoro with a letteropener.
Hell, you even vote for someone called "the unknown member"
Blackbeard is not even a Shichibukai yet but that by the way is what leads us to point
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Flying Duck how stupid are you some of you people? "Blackbeard is not going to become a Shichibukai, because he has no animal name"??????? Are you nuts? Did you do drugs?
If you're guessing (again) he's not going to be a Shichibukai, then that's that but this reasoning is so stupid...aaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
I will stop here... this makes no sense anyways because- most of you won't understand what I say and
- even now I'm sure to be flamed...
come and get me. Damn you guys piss me off!
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OH MY GOD!
This thread disgusts me so much I think I'm gonna puke!
How can it happen this wasn't closed by a mod 'til now…?
All you do here is throwing in wild guesses at your whim without having ANY idea of the material... this is so much like the american election, I can't stand this!
First:
How can you assume who is the strongest Shichibukai? You know nothing, yes absoltely nothing about most of the guys you're "voting" about.
Let me put it more understandable for the slower ones:
You know NOTHING about the power of Doflamingo, you just got a glimpse on in what direction is goes.
You know absoultely NOTHING about Bartholomew Kuma.
You know absolutely NOTHING about Jimbei.
You know NOTHING about Moria, exept that his bounty was higher than Luffy's and that he's big.
You don't know very much about Jaruquille Mihawk all you've seen is him fighting a much weaker Zoro with a letteropener.
Hell, you even vote for someone called "the unknown member"
Blackbeard is not even a Shichibukai yet but that by the way is what leads us to point
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Flying Duck how stupid are you some of you people? "Blackbeard is not going to become a Shichibukai, because he has no animal name"??????? Are you nuts? Did you do drugs?
If you're guessing (again) he's not going to be a Shichibukai, then that's that but this reasoning is so stupid...aaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
I will stop here... this makes no sense anyways because- most of you won't understand what I say and
- even now I'm sure to be flamed...
come and get me. Damn you guys piss me off!
I agree except not with the dickhead bits.
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Well.. this is a form of speculation and opinion..
I mean, what are forums for if not to discuss this kinda things? Would there be much to discuss at all if everything were plain straight in our face?
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(My Gaimon theory was just a joke made to poke at people who make random guesses. T'was a parody!)
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What's the matter G-Greato ? Can't people just express their feelings here ?
Who cares how much we know about Kuma or even the unknown guy ?
It's not about proving something, just to give a feeling ! No offense but it's just too much man… -
What's the matter G-Greato ? Can't people just express their feelings here ?
Who cares how much we know about Kuma or even the unknown guy ?
It's not about proving something, just to give a feeling ! No offense but it's just too much man…Yeaa! That's it man. I think in the same way. Why can't we just supose random things here? This is a forum right? We are not desobeying any rule right? So what?
We don't know almost anything about the Shichibukai… but we can speculate! Using some information that Oda give us... like, Whitebeard is the strongest pirate (or man) in the world. He is a reference. The bounts can't tell us how strong a pirate is, but we can take SOMETHING from the numbers.
Hell! It's justa a forum... and we are not talking about the future of the man kind... it's just a SHOUNEN MANGA!!!!!!
And i keep saying that the Pandaman it's the 7º Shichibukai... and... like one of you said "the last shichibukai is luffy's mother" so... maybe... Pandaman is in fact... PANDAWOMAN!!! Damn!
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OH MY GOD!
This thread disgusts me so much I think I'm gonna puke!
How can it happen this wasn't closed by a mod 'til now…?
All you do here is throwing in wild guesses at your whim without having ANY idea of the material... this is so much like the american election, I can't stand this!
First:
How can you assume who is the strongest Shichibukai? You know nothing, yes absoltely nothing about most of the guys you're "voting" about.
Let me put it more understandable for the slower ones:
You know NOTHING about the power of Doflamingo, you just got a glimpse on in what direction is goes.
You know absoultely NOTHING about Bartholomew Kuma.
You know absolutely NOTHING about Jimbei.
You know NOTHING about Moria, exept that his bounty was higher than Luffy's and that he's big.
You don't know very much about Jaruquille Mihawk all you've seen is him fighting a much weaker Zoro with a letteropener.
Hell, you even vote for someone called "the unknown member"
Blackbeard is not even a Shichibukai yet but that by the way is what leads us to point
Second:
Flying Duck how stupid are you some of you people? "Blackbeard is not going to become a Shichibukai, because he has no animal name"??????? Are you nuts? Did you do drugs?
If you're guessing (again) he's not going to be a Shichibukai, then that's that but this reasoning is so stupid...aaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
I will stop here... this makes no sense anyways because- most of you won't understand what I say and
- even now I'm sure to be flamed...
come and get me. Damn you guys piss me off!
You are going to puke because of this? Wow, sad. I'm not going to flame you because I have common sense (take a tip from me, get some). We do know that Bartholomew is religious… so technically we do know something. We know Jimbei used to be Arlong's equal. We do know something. By the way, whats up with the fragments of sentences, insults and random exclamations? You're joking right? Because I really hope that you don't think you know what you know about.
This is for discussing and speculation. If you are going to resort to profanity, then go away from this thread. Geez, you're such a loser. :getlost: -
I agree whit G-Greato
Its on thing to specculate who is the strongest, what real powers a person have in op and so on. But its pretty pointless if you just make upp stuf from your own fantasy. Then its not a discussion its just fools rambling words whit no meaning.
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@Myrmonden:
I agree whit G-Greato
Its on thing to specculate who is the strongest, what real powers a person have in op and so on. But its pretty pointless if you just make upp stuf from your own fantasy. Then its not a discussion its just fools rambling words whit no meaning.
When am I making up any fantasy's? For the biographies of the shichibukai I gave stuf from wikipedia and other sites so it is valid… Also, the strongest thing isn't defining that it is strongest, its just a general opinion. OBVIOUSLY its not going to 100 percent correct. Second time today, get some common sense.
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When am I making up any fantasy's? For the biographies of the shichibukai I gave stuf from wikipedia and other sites so it is valid… Also, the strongest thing isn't defining that it is strongest, its just a general opinion. OBVIOUSLY its not going to 100 percent correct. Second time today, get some common sense.
your starting text about don flamingo where you state he has a devil fruit,..your number 7 persons I probely will stop read op if anyone there, BB= black bear,,
and this post True… but couldn't he take control of the entire straw hat crew? I mean some of them have bounties that are 70+. Sanji (77 beli) and Nico (81 beli) add up to 158 berries alone... So they could beat Zorro. Zorro probably is strong enough to fight his crewmates, but I doubt Luffy is so he would have to fight Doflamingo. But, with him having control of Chopper, Nami, Ussop, Franky and Brook (probably, plus Brook has the shadow of Ryuuma... so he has obvious skills), Luffy is going to have a lot of trouble. He has to fight all the people listed above, plus a Shichibukai with a bounty of 340 million berries. So he's basically fighting a massive behemoth of 700 million berries if added DoFlamingo and Nico and Sanji after they beat Zorro. Luffy would have basically no chance against them. Thus a loss for the straw hat crew.
Note: This is still assuming that Doflamingo doesn't have his crew with him. And if Sarquiss and Bellamy were rookies, they had 30+ berrie amount for a rookie, so obviously the crew has extreme potentialcould be one of the worst text I ever read in my life. By your logic if 301 person whit a bounty whit 1 would gather and fight Luffy they would win as they have 301 (301 power???) when Luffy only got 300 bounty. serios I cant understand how anyone who I presume have read a manga,,,can think that numbers matter and now I mean numbers like 10 ppl agianst 1 alone swordsman etc, in a manga/anime almost never matters and since when can you add ppl like that togheter for beat someone. ok that it may work in the real world 1vs 100 they can beat the 1 even if hes alot stronger but 1v2 nooo lets take a expierenced kenjutsu user agianst a 2 person whit semi battle expierence or whatever he will defeat them easily, ( Here I am not saying that Sanji or Robin is weak but if we go bounty wise sanji would be at a 64% of zoro power and 68% and 2 person whit that much difference in power would not be able to add togheter and beat someone in irl thats common sense).
I could probely easy found more commnets from you but I think its mostly pointless you dont know what you are talking about.
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@Myrmonden:
your starting text about don flamingo where you state he has a devil fruit,..your number 7 persons I probely will stop read op if anyone there, BB= black bear,,
and this post True… but couldn't he take control of the entire straw hat crew? I mean some of them have bounties that are 70+. Sanji (77 beli) and Nico (81 beli) add up to 158 berries alone... So they could beat Zorro. Zorro probably is strong enough to fight his crewmates, but I doubt Luffy is so he would have to fight Doflamingo. But, with him having control of Chopper, Nami, Ussop, Franky and Brook (probably, plus Brook has the shadow of Ryuuma... so he has obvious skills), Luffy is going to have a lot of trouble. He has to fight all the people listed above, plus a Shichibukai with a bounty of 340 million berries. So he's basically fighting a massive behemoth of 700 million berries if added DoFlamingo and Nico and Sanji after they beat Zorro. Luffy would have basically no chance against them. Thus a loss for the straw hat crew.
Note: This is still assuming that Doflamingo doesn't have his crew with him. And if Sarquiss and Bellamy were rookies, they had 30+ berrie amount for a rookie, so obviously the crew has extreme potentialcould be one of the worst text I ever read in my life. By your logic if 301 person whit a bounty whit 1 would gather and fight Luffy they would win as they have 301 (301 power???) when Luffy only got 300 bounty. serios I cant understand how anyone who I presume have read a manga,,,can think that numbers matter and now I mean numbers like 10 ppl agianst 1 alone swordsman etc, in a manga/anime almost never matters and since when can you add ppl like that togheter for beat someone. ok that it may work in the real world 1vs 100 they can beat the 1 even if hes alot stronger but 1v2 nooo lets take a expierenced kenjutsu user agianst a 2 person whit semi battle expierence or whatever he will defeat them easily, ( Here I am not saying that Sanji or Robin is weak but if we go bounty wise sanji would be at a 64% of zoro power and 68% and 2 person whit that much difference in power would not be able to add togheter and beat someone in irl thats common sense).
I could probely easy found more commnets from you but I think its mostly pointless you dont know what you are talking about.
Okay, just a few things, i first had none, but possible some sort of puppet fruit. But people found it confusing for Doflamingo so I took it out. Black bear D. was a joke. And your insulted because I made a bad post for talking about a comic pirate crew… Ow, sorry I scarred your life with that. Its not meant to be Shakespeare, its on a forum. If you want to read some good writing, do a favor to yourself and read some literature. Yep, it exists! And I don't know what I'm talking about on the subject of a comic... Wow... we're really getting into advanced studies here. :getlost: Seriously, if you are going to flame and just be a person who just likes to argue, go away. We don't accept your "kind" here.
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Okay, just a few things, i first had none, but possible some sort of puppet fruit. But people found it confusing for Doflamingo so I took it out. Black bear D. was a joke. And your insulted because I made a bad post for talking about a comic pirate crew… Ow, sorry I scarred your life with that. Its not meant to be Shakespeare, its on a forum. If you want to read some good writing, do a favor to yourself and read some literature. Yep, it exists! And I don't know what I'm talking about on the subject of a comic... Wow... we're really getting into advanced studies here. :getlost: Seriously, if you are going to flame and just be a person who just likes to argue, go away. We don't accept your "kind" here.
we…who are we serios you are the one arguieng getting emo becuase someone dont like your created topic,, and I thougt it was the terrible becuase your idees how that bounty + bounty would be better then other bounty comment was ........I just felt sad for you realy when I read it. And when I wanna read som good writing I read Op or other manga much better drama and story line then some ancient overated crap written by shapespeare or other similair things like that.
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Moria: take a lesson from shanks from the very first chapters and Luffy from the Jaya arc. just leave it be and you will come out on top.
this would be so funny if you guys werent so serious =P
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I'm actually laughing while I read what these people say. Anyway, Ill just ignore the flamers and we can get back on topic. :happy:
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@Myrmonden:
we…who are we serios you are the one arguieng getting emo becuase someone dont like your created topic,, and I thougt it was the terrible becuase your idees how that bounty + bounty would be better then other bounty comment was ........I just felt sad for you realy when I read it. And when I wanna read som good writing I read Op or other manga much better drama and story line then some ancient overated crap written by shapespeare or other similair things like that.
Don't call me emo, after all the person you agreed with was calling people "dickheads" and said he wanted to puke by reading this… And the we is from the people who said earlier that the person you were agreeing with, went over the top.
Last thing to say. Sorry, I just had to say this (it relates to your last post).
Ah, yes the modern case of a lack of grammar. See kids, this is what you DONT want to grow up to be. Kay, Im done, back on topic please. -
Don't call me emo, after all the person you agreed with was calling people "dickheads" and said he wanted to puke by reading this… And the we is from the people who said earlier that the person you were agreeing with, went over the top.
Last thing to say. Sorry, I just had to say this (it relates to your last post).
Ah, yes the modern case of a lack of grammar. See kids, this is what you DONT want to grow up to be. Kay, Im done, back on topic please.yes I wanna puke reading it to and reading your post and what you are saying right now, proving but the emo and dickhead. So if you are going back to topic why wont you for exempel tell how you come to the conclusion whit the bounty system when fighting against Don flamingo, you are just going around the questions whit some whining face that ppl wont agree whit you and handle it in a mature manner.
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*Sorry for being off topic once:
Can we play & have fun with estimating Shichibukai's bounty??
I estimate Moria, Jimbei, Mihawk & Last person have: 400-800 M Berri.
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Gerik are we estimateing them as the frozen bounty or as the bounty they should have if they were NOT shichibukai?
i expect all of the shichibukai to have their bounty frozen before 500 M for some reason.
How high was crocodiles bounty? since Moria are the second Luffy gets to beat Morias is probably not that much higher then Crocodiles imo.
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I wonder how high the highest bounty is…
I'm pretty sure no one will go up to 1 billion. Because, you know, who would dare to challange them, and how the hell would the WG have a chance to pay someone that amount if they actually beat someone with that bounty.I think there is about 10-15 persons in the OP world with the ability to gain a bounty over 500. The shichibukai, all of them (even Croc) maybe have the ability to gain such a bounty, they all seem incredibly strong as there wouldn't be a point in having them if they can't compare to the four emperors, which all probably have a bounty of 500, higher or very close to it. I don't count people in the WG or Marine.
So, yeah, I agree with you Gorlom, I don't think we'll see a bukai with a bounty over 500 either, as they recruited Croc when he had a "small" bounty as 81.
I think Mihawk will be the strongest bukai, just 'cause he's Zoro's "final boss". -
Gerik are we estimateing them as the frozen bounty or as the bounty they should have if they were NOT shichibukai?
i expect all of the shichibukai to have their bounty frozen before 500 M for some reason.
How high was crocodiles bounty? since Moria are the second Luffy gets to beat Morias is probably not that much higher then Crocodiles imo.
crocodiles bounty was on 80 and later oda have stated it should have been around 160 for the current crocodile.
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I have noticed people using the word dickhead which they don't usually use so I assume they are talking about me.
I agree with G-Greato that this is just pure speculation and isn't really "Playing around" except unlike him, I don't want to be a massive dickhead who puts down people and laugh at them for simply wanting to have fun.
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160 for the current? damn thats seriously weak considering he has a logia and orcistrated the whole BW organisation.
and im also considering that Enel had 500 in an SBS (if he would have been a citizen of the blue sea)
Enel is just raw power while crocodile is dangerous because he plans alot too.
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I'm pretty sure Oda said that it would be at least 160. Like, what the hell, if Croc would have succed, he would been a great challange to the WG with Pluton in his hands…
From what I see it, Croc may be the most underrated character so far in the serie. Can it be so bad that not even Oda see the potenial he gave the dude? :O I think not, I'm sure Croc will show up later. -
btw about pluton… since Franky had the plans for that for so long do you think that he might have put something from its design into Thousand sunny? or is that all original Franky?
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I think Franky didn't put any into Thousand Sunny. I'm drawing a blank, but didn't he destroy the plans for Pluton? Anyway, Gecko Moria will probably be shown in the next 5 chapters or so.
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Moria: Yes he did destroy them, but he had the plans for years… do you think he never looked at them? that he never imagined the ship beeing built?
I think he did.I imagine he must remember atleast part of them but since he doesnt have any measurements anymore he cant completly build pluton out of his memory (and there's probably large parts of the ship he didnt understand why it was built that way).
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if we go from what usopp said when he met aokiji ("admiral? what is he doing here? he should be after pirates worth billions!") then pirates worth billions exist
IMO mihawk,shanks,WB,dragon and a few others are almost sure they have billions for bounties
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There's such a thing as exageration…