I think there was some talk about this in the Random News Article thread, but this deserves its own topic.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18134671/?GT1=9246
It is the worst campus shooting in US history. Tons of people killed, the college's image shattered, and all the activists are definitely going to be in an uproar about proper control of guns/violent media/whatever, etc. Awful stuff.
I know. It's horrible.
A friend of mine is going to that school next year too… =(
Man, this is even worse then Collumbine.
I'm surprised there wasn't a thread about this sooner.
I can't even fathom what happened. Simply terrible.
I can't imagine how terrible that is.
It's like the columbine generation has grown up. Soon, there's going to be shootings in office buildings and then retirement homes.
Yeah, I just saw it on the news. That's just horrible. If it turns out the shooter was an angry student, that will be an enourmous wake-up call to America.
@Impel:
Yeah, I just saw it on the news. That's just horrible. If it turns out the shooter was an angry student, that will be an enourmous wake-up call to America.
Yea… but what is America going to do...? Really, there is no way to stop this sort of thing.
Society will either become like that book "1984" or that book "Brave New World". The government of man is destined to fail, no matter which extreeme it takes. Endless uniformed freedom, or endless oppresive control.
@Impel:
Yeah, I just saw it on the news. That's just horrible. If it turns out the shooter was an angry student, that will be an enourmous wake-up call to America.
A wake up call for what? It's not like we've never had school shootings before, this is just the worst.
Society will either become like that book "1984" or that book "Brave New World". The government of man is destined to fail, no matter which extreeme it takes. Endless uniformed freedom, or endless oppresive control.
I disagree. As long as there is opposition, there will never be an extreme.
I first heard of this at the end of the school day. This is just horrible.
Can't imagine what's gonna happen next ..
Man, this happened at the College that a lot of people I know went to. I've always rooted for them sportswise, so I feel really bad for all the people that were shot as well as the families of those people.
Let's just hope no one from the forums actually went to that school. :(
I heard about this earlier and just went WTF. What is wrong with people nowadays, I really don't understand how someone could do that…
I hope the best for the families that lost someone.
Heard about this from my Creative Writing teacher. Terrible event, my heart goes out to the victim's families.
Ok, so I was just watching CNN and noticed
Damn, for being the worst shooting ever, the students being interviewed seem to be taking this pretty well. 'I had to change out of my clothes because they were covered with blood when I laid down and pretended to be dead.' and with a straight face. =O
That criminal profiler lady seems to be a very angry person
 
I still try to find the answer exactly why people do this, and it definitley isn't because they were bored and needed to have some fun, or death screams make them happy.
yeah thats the one thing I never get how someone wakes up and decides that they're going to do this although in a way this person will be remembered after his death.
and about the Gun issue before all that starts up, I don't like guns, I'll never own a gun, but I am as much anti-gun control as anyone can be and I believe that anyone for GunControl is missing all the facts or is just a plain idiot
I still try to find the answer exactly why people do this, and it definitley isn't because they were bored and needed to have some fun, or death screams make them happy.
Watch Taxi Driver.
Imagine all the innocent little revenge/power fantasies you had(?) as a kid paired with extreme social defunction, confused anger, and imagine that snowballing and snowballing.
These are desperate pathetic lonely people with seriously bad cases of emotional maturity.
I'll be going to a whole different school district next year, so I really hope nothing like this would happen there. The school is flippin' huuuuuge.
Boy, I was overhearing CNN while I was eating dinner, and I swear everytime the anchorwoman interviewed someone new from the campus she always began asking the students/faculty about the sense of rage around the campus, coincidently none of them felt that rage was needed.
30? I knew a lot of people dies but I didn't expect this much.
This is horrible, and I didn't even know because the huge flood in town had practically everyone's attention today.
This was not the news I was expecting to hear when I received a phone call from my mother after school today. The conversation was incredibly one-sided, because all I could manage to say was "Are you serious!?" or "Seriously!?"
Unfortunately, these things are becoming more and more commonplace; I know several people just a few years older than I who have witnessed at least one shooting in their school, and it just breaks my heart that people would have to go through the experience. I have several friends who have friends at VT, so this is even more bothersome.
The media also has a tendency to be pretty horrible about these things. The last thing any college kid who just saw or heard about a bunch of their friends being slaughtered needs is a bunch of people asking questions and poking cameras in their faces.
I live in Charlottesville (not too far from Blacksburg). My teacher went to Tech, and me and a bunch of other classmates always have it out with him about UVA and Tech's football teams. He was watching the news report when we came into class. I felt really bad for him. Last I heard, 20 dead and 22 were injured.
Ok, so I was just watching CNN and noticed
- Damn, for being the worst shooting ever, the students being interviewed seem to be taking this pretty well. 'I had to change out of my clothes because they were covered with blood when I laid down and pretended to be dead.' and with a straight face. =O
I bet they were in shock. I would imagine, if it were me there, that my mind would put up a mental block to deal with the awfulness of what is happening around me.
This is a horrible event. I sat in class tonight, and thought, wow that is just what some of those people were doing. Then Bam it is over. :sad:
I can't imagine anything like this happening at USF. This is just crazy…
I don't know what to think other than this is extremely horrible. So many people dead from one person...
@Roz:
The media also has a tendency to be pretty horrible about these things. The last thing any college kid who just saw or heard about a bunch of their friends being slaughtered needs is a bunch of people asking questions and poking cameras in their faces.
agreed I can't stand the media coverage at any of these tragedies
This is just horrible.
I just can't imagine how everyone at the school is feeling right now.
I also can't imagine the angry backlash this is going to have on entertainment media like movies and games.
One thing so far thats goos is that weve barely had any "OMIGOD LOOK AT THE GUY WHO DID IT" stuff, making the killer a mini celebrity.
The sad thing with this incident is that barely a day has gone by and it's already turned into a joke.
I really wish people had a little more respect for situations like these.
Those people are outside my Monkeysphere and have no influence in my life whatsoever but goddamn.
I do find it quite odd that time is always compared to Columbine.
"The shooting happened 43508 days after Columbine."
"It happened 23 days and 89 minutes from the Columbine anniversary."
"It's 3'o Columbine."
Wow. What asses to disrespect the shooting even more than the media does.
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In one of the Japanese communities I belong, this one guy started to say "the incident was caused because of the current US/China relationship." Apparently he believes "comfort women" is part of the reason this incident happened. (Don't ask me how it is related - I don't follow the news so I have no idea what's going on between Japan/China/US.) Then, he went on saying after 911, US blames everything on racial issues, and went on talking about all the racial issues between the States, Japan, China, and Korea. Granted, he always look down on other Asian countries than Japan, but then here is my question.
From your point of view with the given fact that this was caused by a Chinese foreign student who has been in the States for a year, what's the chance of racial problem hidden in background? (ie. Something similar to 911 - Isramics attacked US because of religious/racial? issue.)
I just don't know what a guy like him was trying to achieve… He kills more than 30 people and then shoots himself? Damn, people like that are just walking shells with no mind at all...
Everything was all for nothing
They are saying the two people who were shot in the dorm was a separate event than the massacare in the class room.
So, what are the odds that this was a separate gun man? They thought the first shooting was a domestic dispute. And the second massacare was random act of violence.
yeah im here
@ dlo: No, they were the same gunmen. I was watching the news last night and they said first that there was the shooting in the dorm. Ambulance arrived and then people said the scene was "contained" or something. Idiotically, at that point the school didn't cancel classes and most of the students didn't even know about the first shooting. Then, the gunmn crossed campus from the dorms to the Norse Hall (a science dept. or something which according to the news was a 15 minute walk) then began the second attack. Of course, the whole thing ended with the guy shooting himself.
This is horrible and I feel bad for all the families and students of affected by the tragedy (especially since I know some people at VT). As horrible as this sounds, I really want to know why the killer did this. Why he would cause all this and then take his own life. I mean, what was the point, it accomplished nothing except sadness and hate. To me, its scary that someone could just do this.
I'm not even surprised that this all happened.
And now guns will have to be permitted in universities too so the studnes can fend off madmen on theri own.
that's when people should realize that 1) we live in a fucked up world where people turn out crazy 2) just fuckin' forbid gun possession. how can a civilized country still allow anybody to have one? now see what happens?
that's when people should realize that 1) we live in a fucked up world where people turn out crazy 2) just fuckin' forbid gun possession. how can a civilized country still allow anybody to have one? now see what happens?
its because we are civilized that we need to have a way to defend ourselves, oh and by the way the guy stole his gun so yeah, he already broken at least 1 law before he fired the 1st bullet and about 100 more after that.
What the hell. People killed just like that? Was it really that random?
I feel sad for all those who passed away but are still not being respected by anyone not being too close to them.
On another note, I'm afraid I don't know exactly what a "Shooting" alone means, someone just came and shot people? ><
As horrible as this sounds, I really want to know why the killer did this. Why he would cause all this and then take his own life. I mean, what was the point, it accomplished nothing except sadness and hate. To me, its scary that someone could just do this.
Have you every felt the urge to punch someone in the face?
Go figure.
I saw this as I logged onto Yahoo yesturday afternoon.Its a horrible thing to happen and I feel sorry for those who went through such a horrible thing.
I hate to say this,but some politicians are gonna start to bash Entertainment,Movie and Video game industry and throw the blame on them,Especially Jack Thompson 
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Its sad when the country has an amendament that lets us bare arms.NRA will need to dig there bunkers in.
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Man, this news totally jumped at me out of nowhere. I can't say I was expecting something like this now, and I can't explain but it just felt unreal when I heard about it.
Terrible news all the same.
Yes, seriously. People having any kind of access to guns doesn't make living safer for anybody. The whole self defence excuse is just a load of bull.
Well, I'm inclined to agree. But then, I live in a country where there being no guns is pretty much the norm. I've never even seen a real one my entire life. The US is so drastically different that it's hard to compare norms and values, or the effectiveness of laws, I think.
Then again, you know, I don't think it could hurt.
Okay, since people have been bring the concept of gun ownership into question over this, I thought I should post this…
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a38a75857671c.htm
On a side note, why are some of us so quick to blame the tool and not the person?
Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Even if you take away every gun in the whole world, there will still be murderers. There are so many different ways to kill a man…
Guns just make it really, really impersonal and easy.
Wow there is misinformation in here.
Those students who were interviewed CHOSE to go on air, they weren't forced into it. Media is scrupulous but if you don't put yourself out there they won't have you
They WERE his guns. They found receipts for both the 9mm and the .22 in his backpack
He was Korean! kekeke.
Jack Thompson/Fred Phelps have already started their bullshit about this, the appropriate psychological evaluators and awesome motorcycle dudes have gone into action in response
And there you have it. Anyway. My roomie is from Virginia and she was sobbing all of yesterday about it, so sorry if I seem a bit stuffy :P
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Thats not sad.
Thats just awesome.
76 years old, youv'e lived a full life before having to deal with any nursing home shit, and you go out saving lives with your death.
Thats the way to do it man.
Dr.Phil is an idiot of course.
That is one brave man. And I hope it shows people that the elderly aren't useless.
I work at a school as a TA, so this got me thinking about what I would do if this ever happened at work. How would I protect the students? I'm off this week, but next week, I'm going to talk to my boss and hopefully plan a staff meeting to discuss what we should do in a possible shooting.
Liviu Librescu. He's a hero indeed. man, like experiencing the holocaust is not enough, he had to die through the hands of a mad man.
it's always the wrong people who have to die and suffer…i don't know what to think of this, these kind of things happen way too often nowadays, it barely shocks me but once it sinks in...
really, after such events i can only think of WHY
Yes, seriously. People having any kind of access to guns doesn't make living safer for anybody. The whole self defence excuse is just a load of bull.
seconded
edit:
video games are barely actuators for labile minds to go psycho IMO.
