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    • Bounty1Berry
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      I've noticed that although the Strawhats do a very good job of decommissioning the villianous leaders, they tend to not stick around and make things stable afterwards.

      In a few cases, there was just a single man or small group who were causing trouble, and society would heal itself if left alone (Skypeia, Syrup Village), but when there was real mop-up work required (Alabasta, Arlong Park, arguably even Enies Lobby), they tend to dash and leave it to the Marine or local authorities to finish getting rid of the residue of the problem.

      Now, this gets interesting in Thriller Bark. As I see it, there's going to be a lot of cleanup required. Just to figure out an ethically valid way to dispose of any remaining zombies and loose shadows is going to be a mess. Arguably, it's a problem beyond their technical ability too. Only Chopper has an outside chance of fixing it IMO, assuming Hogback doesn't turn sides at the end.

      They can't ignore it. A huge ship full of zombies and ghosts adrift will be a risk for others.

      They can't pawn it off on anyone else. There's nobody who knows it's there.

      So how are they going to return Thriller Bark to normalcy when it doesn't seem to be something they have experience doing?

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      • Polygon
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        They'll probably just leave it as it is.

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        • Bounty1Berry
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          And in chapter 700:

          "Yes, Luffy, we're the Sankou."
          "Weren't there Yonkou before, Shanks?"
          "Yeah, but Whitebeard hasn't been seen ever since he sailed through the Florian Triangle. And there's this really creepy guy with "1000" tattooed on his gut and these rotting nurses sewn to his body ambling around there now."

          I don't think it would be percieved as right, particularly if we're lead on by Brooke and such to believe that there's been mass shadow theft as part of the operation.

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            Well, with Arlong Park, Arlong wasn't the authority, so taking him out didn't upset the village's balence. With EL, it's gone now, so there was no point in fixing it. Alabasta, however, you're right. But when Vivi sees Luffy's new bounty, it seems like Cobra took control again and everything is going okay.

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            • Bounty1Berry
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              @Impel:

              Well, with Arlong Park, Arlong wasn't the authority, so taking him out didn't upset the village's balence. With EL, it's gone now, so there was no point in fixing it. Alabasta, however, you're right. But when Vivi sees Luffy's new bounty, it seems like Cobra took control again and everything is going okay.

              Arlong WAS the authority. This creates at best, a power vaccuum, where someone may wish to take a similar unified leadership of the islands he controlled. At worst, every tin-pot pirate in 500 km will be trying to raid the towns now, thinking that the defenses are gone.

              The Buster Call can be considered "mopping things up for the Strawhats". It takes care of the problems of major damage to structures, loads of dead or injured bodies, a public feeling betrayed by their leaders, and two really pissed off giants. Admittedly it does this by either burning them or shifting them to Water Seven, but it's still more than Luffy did.

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              • Gorlom
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                what exactly is normal for thrillar bark? i mean its a bigass pirateship. they could possibly sink it.
                well there might be a chance that the "shadowless" can take care of the cleanup in thrillar bark if they dont sink it (meaning the people hiding in the woods)

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                What the…? Holy smurf am I slow! Until this statement of yours I never even realized that an octopus is actually serving octopusballs. Talk about not seeing the forest because of too many trees. facepalm

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                  Goddamn it, zombies bury themselves when everything's said and done. Haven't we learned anything from horror movies?

                  . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Credo quia absurdum non credere. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

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                  • Taleran
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                    well they are pirates…..they're all at peace on their boat after all is said and done

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                      I have been wondering what they will do with the zombies. I they take the shadows and return them to the rightful owners, it would propably mean the death for the zombies. Is this be something the Strawhats would do? At least some of the zombies have personalities, so would it be okay to kill them?
                      Or will someone else do the dirty work for them, or are the zombies just happy to rest in peace?

                      And I think they would have no problem letting the zombies go, since they have let other pirate crew go in the past, even though they could be a threat for the people in the future.

                      Maybe they will just liberate the zombies, find a way to return everyone's shadow without harm to the zombies, and leave Brook and Cindry in charge?

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                        @Bounty1Berry:

                        Arlong WAS the authority. This creates at best, a power vaccuum, where someone may wish to take a similar unified leadership of the islands he controlled. At worst, every tin-pot pirate in 500 km will be trying to raid the towns now, thinking that the defenses are gone.

                        The marines tried to kill Arlong but got smashed by his forces. Now I presume they are the power in town, any other joe-blow pirate crew will be destroyed by the marines.

                        But this is a good topic for thriller bark. Its obvious that Moria has to go down to save sanji and Zoro's shadows. But if Brook's and the Zombie Mayor's shadows go back when Moria goes down where are over 800 stolen shadows all going to go. I doubt all their original owners are still around, which means some shadows are going to be home less.

                        Even IF they get around the shadow thing what are they going to do about the whole ship?

                        Proud supporter of Brook for Straw Hat Musician.

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                          well oda said that after the villains are defeated their pride and dreams are crushed so they won't do anything anymore so what is the point on sticking to an island they liberated or saved??

                          about thriller bark i can't see it happening,it is a pirate ship,propably they will beat moria and take everyone's shadows back and save the old man and every other that his shadow has been stolen

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                            Plus, when Luffy becomes PK, won't all the pirates HAVE to stop?

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                              are you kidding…..violent people + dream + someone else standing in the way = bloodbath

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                                @Impel:

                                Plus, when Luffy becomes PK, won't all the pirates HAVE to stop?

                                No. Not all pirates are out to become Pirate King. Usopp is a prime example.

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                                • Strohhut-Ruffy
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                                  @Bounty1Berry:

                                  "Yeah, but Whitebeard hasn't been seen ever since he sailed through the Florian Triangle."

                                  roflmao

                                  The Strawhats come and in the end they leave places like they want to. They helped people in the past because in their opinion there was something going wrong. And that's one of their differences to other pirates.

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                                    No. Not all pirates are out to become Pirate King. Usopp is a prime example.

                                    No, I mean if Luffy is their king, won't they have to like do as he says and not pull shit anymore?

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                                      lol

                                      you mistake the term of Pirate King to having any real authority, its probably just that a title.

                                      besides one of the defining characteristics of a pirate is living free and having a king like figure with actual power would be stupid because noone would follow him.

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                                        Agreed. Gold Roger seemed to be a King without a kingdom. The term King was just that, it distingished him from all other pirates.

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                                          Well, then wouldn't they all like respect him and shit? And if a pirate is free living, why do they take orders from captains?

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                                          • *Meh*
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                                            Because there's democracy, and then there's not dying at sea.

                                            Thriller Bark does seem like a particularly sticky situation;this is the first time the Strawhats have fought a pirate crew on the open sea. Granted, it is a ship the size of an island but still, given Moria's size and Luffy's physical strength what's to keep them from knocking a hole in the hull through their confrontation?

                                            I'm like Hisotensoku: Not here to preserve peace, nor to destroy it. I certainly can't move mountains. Mostly, I'm just full of hot air.- Meh

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                                              I doubt the Strawhats will actually do anything to help out all that much after it's all over. It's not their problem, healing a wound would take more meddling than it did to make it. Just look at Skypeia, after Luffy beat Enel, they had a party and left the next day. The Shandians and the Skypeians were still at war, but the Strawhats didn't do anything to help, they just robbed them blind and left.

                                              That, and the whole "being pirates" thing would be ruined (moreso) if they wasted time helping with every single problem a pirate ship has.

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                                                Dunno if this has been said, but maybe they will sink the giants ship, and everyone who is good will some how get a life boat and sail away to hapiness.

                                                Hmmm.

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                                                  I think that with the Shadow Theory, that once Hogback are the others are gone there will be no one to command the zombies, so there existence is useless and they can go back to rest, if the shadows were stolen off pirates and others previously ambushed then they'll … dissolve.

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                                                    they will all rest in peace…................😄and the ship never comes out of the florian triangel:getlost:

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                                                    • Strohhut-Ruffy
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                                                      @Saloma:

                                                      The Shandians and the Skypeians were still at war, but the Strawhats didn't do anything to help, they just robbed them blind and left.

                                                      Hmmm .. that's not true. Shandians and Skypieans made peace during the party if I remember right?

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                                                        Yes they did, but it's just because Luffy player owned their dictator. And that the "beloved leader" of the Skypieans tried to kill them and they realized he was a douchebag.

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                                                          @Strohhut-Ruffy:

                                                          Hmmm .. that's not true. Shandians and Skypieans made peace during the party if I remember right?

                                                          If I recall correctly, they said they would calm down for now, and that party was just celebrating Enel getting pwned.

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                                                            I clearly remember the elder telling Wiper when he woke up that the only one left who wants to fight is you.

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                                                              And in Enel's Cover-Story Gun Fall and the Shandia-one are sitting together, laughing and burping, lol

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                                                                That was a temporary truce. Eventually they'll get jealous of each other again and start fighting. The tension was right there, I don't see how you guys missed it.

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                                                                  @lpzie:

                                                                  That was a temporary truce. Eventually they'll get jealous of each other again and start fighting. The tension was right there, I don't see how you guys missed it.

                                                                  hahahahahha 👅

                                                                  Originally Posted by Ivotas

                                                                  What the…? Holy smurf am I slow! Until this statement of yours I never even realized that an octopus is actually serving octopusballs. Talk about not seeing the forest because of too many trees. facepalm

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                                                                    Sink that bitch Going Merry style

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