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    • Taleran
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      this story was so awesomly crazy that it needed its own thread

      http://www.yobserver.com/cgi-bin/2007/exec/view.cgi/23/11703/printer

      aleh Talib Saleh used to dream that he would grow horns on his head. He dismissed them as mere fancy at first, but then, at the ripe old age of 78, a horn did indeed begin to grow on the left side of his head, astonishing his fellow villagers. Saleh, a resident of A’dban district of the Shabwa governorate, claims that the horn started growing over 25 years ago. He has no explanation as to how the horn developed or why. However, a large medical team at the Aden Specialized Hospital believe that the horn was caused by multiplying layers of hardened, dried skin on Saleh’s head.

      Eventually these layers piled up enough to become a horn. Saleh, 102, spoke to the Yemen Observer about the astonishing experience of growing horns on his head, beginning at the age of 77. The first, he said, began growing some 25 years ago, and kept growing until it reached a length of half a meter. But that horn broke off one day last year. Eight days later, another horn started growing in the same spot as the first one. This horn is currently still growing on the left side of his head.

      I'm at a cross between WTF and AMAZING!

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        This normally should go to the Random Articles but this news is worth a discussion. I dont believe in evolution much, so I'm going for anti-Christ! Seriously though biggest thing that has happened in the 20th century among, has to be that.

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          Two words:

          Blueno Cosplay.

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            Truly he is a superior being

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              Iv'e heard of stuff like that happening already in Ripley's.

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                Bah, that's nothing, there was a guy on TV that used concentrated thoughts to himself everyday for just a few of months that he would lactate and be able to breastfeed a baby, and he did. When people believe strongly that something will happen without doubting, you can be amazed at the results at times.

                Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible. - Frank Zappa

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                  Bah, that's nothing, there was a guy on TV that used concentrated thoughts to himself everyday for just a few of months that he would lactate and be able to breastfeed a baby, and he did. When people believe strongly that something will happen without doubting, you can be amazed at the results at times.

                  do you have a link to that because I have lots of trouble believing that.

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                    I can look for it, but I saw it on Discovery channel or Discovery Health, it was no joke.
                    It's not all that fantastic really considering males actually have mammary glands.

                    Incidentally, this is why it is said that people should not constantly rehearse negative things about themselves. If you go around calling yourself stupid, incompetant, ugly, etc.. you can eventually become that way even if it wasn't really true.

                    Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible. - Frank Zappa

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                      A piece of skull growing outside?

                      He is truely the son of god.

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                        I can look for it, but I saw it on Discovery channel or Discovery Health, it was no joke.
                        It's not all that fantastic really considering males actually have mammary glands.

                        Oh wait, someone talked about this on the board before. Men can produce milk, it's even mentioned in the Bible somewhere…

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                          It is? That's news to me. Where?

                          I know it's not all uncommonly known that men have taken hormones to lactate, but what astounded me about the case I saw is this guy didn't do any of that, he just did sort of meditating/imagining type of excercises that he was lactating every day.

                          The horn guy is a bit different, he kept having dreams about the horn, but I think that's a similar kind of thing. Like..sometimes I have dreams pertaining to things about to happen to my body. Was my subconcious brain sensing hormonal changes or effecting them with dreams? Who knows.

                          Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible. - Frank Zappa

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                            He could just have grown some extra bone. And he can't have evolved because he got it when he was like 78. I think having a horn would be very difficult. Like at an airport.

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                              It is? That's news to me. Where?

                              I know it's not all uncommonly known that men have taken hormones to lactate, but what astounded me about the case I saw is this guy didn't do any of that, he just did sort of meditating/imagining type of excercises that he was lactating every day.

                              Numbers 11:12 "Have I conceived all this people? have I begotten them, that thou shouldest say unto me, Carry them in thy bosom, as a nursing father beareth the sucking child, unto the land which thou swarest unto their fathers?"

                              http://www.unhinderedliving.com/nursingfather.html

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                                Heh, that's really interesting! I always wondered why the heck men have nipples and mammary glands too. It seems to me that they're there to be used, don'tcha think? XD I'm all for breasfeeding dads, it would make the load easier for moms.
                                Now the guy willing himself to lactate isn't so unusual though. Seems kind of natural. XD

                                Although another case that I know about was a guy that accidentally locked himself in a freezer cabin and froze to death - despite it being only room temperature. His own paranoia caused a physical reaction in his body.

                                In any case, I think the horn growing guy is neat. I don't think it's some kind of "evolution" though. Evolution works by mutations becoming an advantage to the species and passing on the advantage and eventually overtaking the less advantageous. As it stands, this man is a mysterious anomaly.

                                Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible. - Frank Zappa

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                                  It's kind of disappointing to me, in that I've wanted to grow horns for a number of years with no results.

                                  I'm like Hisotensoku: Not here to preserve peace, nor to destroy it. I certainly can't move mountains. Mostly, I'm just full of hot air.- Meh

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                                    Cosmic, guys have nipples, because, when we develop in the whoom, it isn't decided, until later on in the development, whether we will be male or female. Therefore, nippled develop, and then different things happen, after it is decided which sex we will be. Aperently, there are suposed to be little spots on guys, where overies "could" have developed. (i'm sure it is vise versa as well)

                                    I remember this, cause a high school teacher told a guy in my class this to get him to shut up, after he was insulting girls. (he was utterly discusted) XD

                                    that horn is discusting.

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                                      that horn is discusting.

                                      Then don't look at it? What you may find "disgusting", others find as a beautiful act of God.

                                      I think it is incredible, tho it must be insanely inconvenient. Like how he said what caused the first one to break…imagine being by a wall and turning you head real fast and that that hitting the wall......

                                      I wonder if he gets common headaches from it..

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                                        Cosmic, guys have nipples, because, when we develop in the whoom, it isn't decided, until later on in the development, whether we will be male or female.

                                        Don't our XY/XX chromosomes decide whether we're male of female…?

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                                          ya, but they don't kick in right away.

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                                            So, if I let my dandruff build up for about a quarter of a century I can grow horns? THAT'S SO COOL!!!

                                            I'm like Hisotensoku: Not here to preserve peace, nor to destroy it. I certainly can't move mountains. Mostly, I'm just full of hot air.- Meh

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                                              I'm kind of jealous of that guy's rad horns.

                                              In a way, I kind of want rad horns, but then again that would be kind of weird and probably uncomfortable to sleep or get into a car or walk through doorways with.

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                                                Cosmic, guys have nipples, because, when we develop in the womb, it isn't revealed, until later on in the development, whether we will be male or female.

                                                Corrected for boredom.

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                                                  ya, even when I know what I mean, I sometimes have troubles putting it into words. 🙂

                                                  and that horn is not rad, it is discusting. bleckie bleah I rhino horn looks prettier than that.

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                                                    Cosmic, guys have nipples, because, when we develop in the womb, it isn't revealed, until later on in the development, whether we will be male or female.

                                                    Wouldn't it stand to reason that if such complex and very different organs as the penis and vagina develop at a very early stage, then male and female nipples would develope differently, rather than being almost identical? They don't change until secondary charactaristics kick in during puberty.

                                                    Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible. - Frank Zappa

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                                                      here, I looked it up

                                                      The answer is that as embryos men and women have similar tissues and body parts. If anything the embryo follows a 'female template'. That is why nipples are present in both sexes. It is the effect of the genes, the Y chromosome and the hormone testosterone that brings about the changes and masculinises the embryo. Testosterone promotes the growth of the penis and testicles. Because nipples are there before this process begins the nipples stay!

                                                      I also remember hearing, that very early in the stage of development, the embryo has little marks on it's nexk, where gills used to be, back in our evelution. Though, in later stages of it's development they disapear. interesting, huh.

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                                                        How do they know the little mark means there used to be gills there at some point? Sounds rather silly to me. Maybe the spot is actually future evolution…to prepare us for the day it becomes like the movie Waterworld with Kevin Costner.

                                                        Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible. - Frank Zappa

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                                                          Don't tell B1B!!

                                                          I'm like Hisotensoku: Not here to preserve peace, nor to destroy it. I certainly can't move mountains. Mostly, I'm just full of hot air.- Meh

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                                                            your so disbelieving, just because I'm not a scientist, and I don't know lots of big fancy words T_T

                                                            I like watching documentries and stuff, ok.

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                                                              You're so not having a sense of humor. XD

                                                              And I like watching documentaries too, I've actually heard all the same theories before, I just don't believe them because they really are just wild theories that may or may not be true.

                                                              Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible. - Frank Zappa

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                                                                naw, just wondering what was behind your disbelief. I can see your reasoning, but sounds good to me. I'll wait till someone proves it wrong.
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                                                                  The horn is not disgusting. The I admit the skin on his head is ugly looking.

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                                                                    Hmmm… gills....

                                                                    :sits on microwave, waits to mutate:

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                                                                      ha ha ha ha, welcome aboard B1B

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                                                                        @captain:

                                                                        here, I looked it up

                                                                        The answer is that as embryos men and women have similar tissues and body parts. If anything the embryo follows a 'female template'.

                                                                        Oh, that's interesting!

                                                                        I also remember hearing, that very early in the stage of development, the embryo has little marks on it's nexk, where gills used to be, back in our evelution. Though, in later stages of it's development they disapear. interesting, huh.

                                                                        Those gills become our auditory canal and ears and stuff. Kinda like the swim bladder evolved into lungs. All mammal embryos go through the evolutional steps of their ancestors during their metamorphosis within the womb. That's why they look like small fish at some point, later like small lizard-frog thingies and after that more and more like what they are supposed to be. Humans, pigs, dogs, etc.

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                                                                          I'm not sure how I should feel about the whole "whenever something fishman-oriented comes along, mention B1B" thing. It's either "embraced/loved", "embarrassed", "the butt of a joke", or "all of the above".

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                                                                            later like small lizard-frog thingies.

                                                                            when did we evolve from reptiles or amphibians? 🙂

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                                                                              Gills collect oxygen either when water pushes over them forcefully (like a shark), or if the blood in the gills flows opposite of the water. In both cases, either the thing with gills has to be in constant motion or the liquid that it is in needs to be in constant motion, or else it would deplete its oxygen supply really damn quickly and die.

                                                                              I have no idea how this applies to babies.

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                                                                                lol since forever.
                                                                                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_human_evolution
                                                                                Basically it goes like this: fish -> amphibians -> reptiles -> mammals -> people, m'kay?

                                                                                I don't think the gills of a human embryo are functional, I mean at that point the embryo is only 5 weeks old or something… but I'm not an expert. Read a biology book for the details. In any case those things are merely rudimentary. Meaning it wasn't necessary for survival to get rid of it so there was no natural selection and it stayed. Like for example our tailbone or the appendix.

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                                                                                  lol since forever.
                                                                                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_human_evolution
                                                                                  Basically it goes like this: fish -> amphibians -> reptiles -> mammals -> people, m'kay?

                                                                                  You say that as if it was actually proven when it is in fact a theory with many missing links.

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                                                                                    I don't think the gills of a human embryo are functional, I mean at that point the embryo is only 5 weeks old or something…

                                                                                    Then why the hell would they exist in the first place? That's a huge waste of cells.

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                                                                                      Aren't you talking about pharyngeal arches? Which become our pharynx, and in fish and amphibians are perforated by gill slits?

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                                                                                        Oh yeah, that's the stuff, sugarlevi. Thank you. They become our pharynx, you say… I thought it was hearing organs.... but anyways, the point is they're not functional gills or something, and especially not a waste of cells. Talking about waste makes it sound as if every single cell in our body had to have a vital purpose for our life.

                                                                                        Um, are you actually creationists or why are you doubting humans descend from mammals that descend from some sort of reptiles that descend from some animals that were able to walk on land and breathe under water that descend from fish? Because if that's the case we should stop talking about evolution.
                                                                                        Of course it's a theory. But it's also a plausible theory with evidence that has been developed over the years by means of reasoning and studying.

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                                                                                          I'm open to believing either one, and don't think they are necessarily mutually exclusive, but I dislike the fact that some people, who really haven't studied that much about current evolution theory or even considered researching criticism just accept it as fact. One thing is that macroevolution is not possible to observe. You would think that over millions and millions of years there would be more distinct evidence of creatures that were in between amphibians and reptiles, but there isn't. For just about everything there is criticism and criticism of the criticism. It's a complicated subject.

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                                                                                            well of coarse I haven't studies evolution. So if someone who has studied it presents me with a theory, and it makes sence to me, I'm gonna accept it, until it is proven to me that it is wrong.

                                                                                            That doesn't mean I believe everythign I hear, but I can't go around disbelieving everything I hear either. I'm not good at math, so if e1n came up and told me that acording to physics, time travel is impossible, I'm gonna believe him. Why, cause he knows what he is talking about better than I do. If Greg tells me it gets cold in japan cause there is no central heating, I'm gonna believe him. If you tell me something about the bible, I'll probably believe you too, cause you know a lot more about it than I do.

                                                                                            If Local came along and started stating that he knew about the history of china, I'd take it with a grain of salt, cause I don't think he's studied china in detail.

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                                                                                              How do they know the little mark means there used to be gills there at some point? Sounds rather silly to me. Maybe the spot is actually future evolution…to prepare us for the day it becomes like the movie Waterworld with Kevin Costner.

                                                                                              @CosmicDebris:

                                                                                              You say that as if it was actually proven when it is in fact a theory with many missing links.

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                                                                                              I'm open to believing either one, and don't think they are necessarily mutually exclusive, but I dislike the fact that some people, who really haven't studied that much about current evolution theory or even considered researching criticism just accept it as fact. One thing is that macroevolution is not possible to observe. You would think that over millions and millions of years there would be more distinct evidence of creatures that were in between amphibians and reptiles, but there isn't. For just about everything there is criticism and criticism of the criticism. It's a complicated subject.

                                                                                              Man, you really don't know anything about evolution do you?

                                                                                              I'm going to assume that you're a preschooler, otherwise you really have no excuse to post the idiotic "Evolution is just a theory" thing you just did, twice.

                                                                                              Lets see if I can't break it down for you.

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                                                                                              How do they know the little mark means there used to be gills there at some point? Sounds rather silly to me.

                                                                                              It's because those same structures develop into gills in fish embryos, and you don't want to know what I think of the idea of an invisible guy in the sky who hands out presents after you die.

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                                                                                              Maybe the spot is actually future evolution…to prepare us for the day it becomes like the movie Waterworld with Kevin Costner.

                                                                                              It's a joke, sure. But evolution doesn't work like that. Evolution is blind design, there is no preconceived blueprint in mind.

                                                                                              Things just don't develop unless they actively serve a function and those fetal structures no longer do. We're way past the point were those structures could actually develop back into gills (just look at whales, they have those structures in their embryos as well).

                                                                                              @CosmicDebris:

                                                                                              You would think that over millions and millions of years there would be more distinct evidence of creatures that were in between amphibians and reptiles, but there isn't.

                                                                                              Not taking into account that the odds of creatures leaving a remains behind for such a period of time is nearly astronomical (the only reason we have so many fossils is because there has simply been soo many creatures living under such a long period of time)…

                                                                                              The main difference between amphibians and reptiles is actually the presence of an amnion, which simply can not be detected through fossilised remains.

                                                                                              We know of a lot of Permian creatures, some of which are early amniotes and some that likely are not, but there is no clear cut line between amphibians and reptiles and there simply never will be.

                                                                                              @CosmicDebris:

                                                                                              One thing is that macroevolution is not possible to observe.

                                                                                              First of all there's not really such a thing as macroevolution and microevolution, there is only evolution.

                                                                                              With that in mind "macroevolution", that is any evolutionary change at or above the level of species (such as speciation or cladiogenesis) has been observed on numerous occasions

                                                                                              @CosmicDebris:

                                                                                              You say that as if it was actually proven when it is in fact a theory with many missing links.

                                                                                              And finally we come to the big thing you said, the thing that shows that you can't have gotten a passing grade in biology or physics from any reputable university.

                                                                                              To quote Richard Dawkins: "A [scientific] theory is actually a higher level of understanding than fact, because the theory explains the facts."

                                                                                              First of all, everything on this planet that's ever lived (including those that are alive today) is either a link or a dead end (the only difference lies in whether or not they've produced offspring).

                                                                                              So far I'm a "dead end" (as are you, I'm assuming), unlike my parents and their parents before them (though I plan to rectify that someday).

                                                                                              Since it quickly becomes impossible to tell whether a creature produced offspring while they were alive once they're dead, we tend to regard all those fossilised remains we find as "links".

                                                                                              Secondly, I've already touched upon the odds of a creature or plant leaving fossilised remains behind for millions of years as well as the fact that some changes don't show up in fossilised remains at all, so the fact that there are "missing" links shouldn't surprise anyone.

                                                                                              You talk about creatures that are in-between and I'm only going to assume that you're referring to transitional forms.

                                                                                              Well guess what, our parents are the transitional form between our grandparents and ourselves, they may not be fossilised (yet), but that's what a transitional form is.

                                                                                              I tend to compare the transitions with ageing, since the changes are so small between each generation/second you don't tend to notice them, but when look at old fossils/pictures the changes become obvious.

                                                                                              There are innumerable transitional forms, since most of them end up missing we often find what appears like huge gaps between them, as the records become more extensive the gaps become smaller.

                                                                                              But we simply will never have a complete record down to every last generation that you seem to require, just like you don't have fotographic evidence of yourself from every second of every day to prove that you've aged, that ridiculous amount of evidence is simply not required to prove that it happened.

                                                                                              Third, we actually have more evidence to support evolution than we have to support the existence of the Titanic. Evolution is a Fact and a Theory.

                                                                                              Besides, if evolution was really as shaky as you make it out to be, don't you think someone would have disproved it by now? I mean come on, you'd get like three Nobel Prizes for that, and let me tell you, that's one hell of an enticement for just about anyone.

                                                                                              I may have lost my original train of though somewhere along the line a few times there but to cut things short, you should really educate yourself on what a Scientific theory is as well as what evolution is.

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                                                                                                whoah, mavado, no need to attack cosmic. You've been a member longer than I have. You must know something about cosmic by now.

                                                                                                I don't think she was saying she doesn't believe in evolution. She was just saying that the whole gill marks in the embryo has not been proven as fact that that is what they are. And therefore, she can not believe it, until it is a proven fact.

                                                                                                If she wants to view things that way, that is fine with me. As long as I get to look at things my way.

                                                                                                and wholey smokes! I only read half of your post. Too big too big. 😛

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                                                                                                  @captain:

                                                                                                  whoah, mavado, no need to attack cosmic.

                                                                                                  Sorry if you thought that was an attack…

                                                                                                  I just can't stand down when someone states something as fundamentaly retarded as "Evolution is just a theory". It's just as dumb as bringing up Pascals Wager in a discussion about religion.

                                                                                                  Look, here's a few other "theories" to illustrate an example:

                                                                                                  There's Atomic Theory, Cell Theory, General Relativity, Germ Theory and The Theory of Gravity.

                                                                                                  These are but a few of the dozens if not hundreds of scientific theories out there (I'm not keeping count).

                                                                                                  Yet the one people keep attacking is Evolution, why? Evolution is just as solid, if not more so than the ones I listed here and is one of the strongest theories we have, so why is evolution the one under attack? In what way is it different from the others? Why not go after Quantum Theory or Chaos Theory instead?

                                                                                                  Time and time again we find that the people who attack evolution does so, because evolution or rather what they believe to be the theory of evolution (most of the time they're way off) contradicts with their interpretation of some text (I say text because this isn't an exclusive problem with Christians) that was written thousands of years ago by people who really didn't understand how the world worked.

                                                                                                  Yet, instead of changing how they interpret the text based on observations of the real world (and maybe even asking themselves what else those texts might have been misstaken about), they start raving about huge atheist conspiracies (even though atheists can't seem to agree on anything) and attack all forms of scientific progress (kinda like when "what'shisname" ended the golden age in Islam by decreeing that Mathematics were the work of the devil).

                                                                                                  We have seen what this kind of thinking did to the muslim nations, in many ways they still haven't recovered. And if you think I'm just going to sit by and let it happen again, then think again.

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                                                                                                    What bothers me is when people assault evolution because it has defects.

                                                                                                    It's the best model we have. We don't have a perfect model of how particles interact either, but does that stop us from using the ones we have to understand the world around us, until we get a better model?

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                                                                                                      dude, i'm not even reading all that. I think your misinterpreting cosmic when she says theory. I think she is using the word, as more of stating that it is a hypothosis. A hypothosis is not an explanation as to why a fact is right. a hypothosis is an educated guess. I think that is what she meant by theory.

                                                                                                      and even though your stance on the issue is the same as mine, I am rather hurt by your harsh words. No need to call cosmic retarded. She is a nice person, who is really quite inteligent, and I respect what she has to say. A lot of people look up to her o this board.

                                                                                                      can you nicely point it out if you think she is wrong, instead of trying to show the whole board she is "stupid" I wouldn't like it if someone told me I was stupid because I didn't understand something.

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                                                                                                        @captain:

                                                                                                        dude, i'm not even reading all that. I think your misinterpreting cosmic when she says theory. I think she is using the word, as more of stating that it is a hypothosis. A hypothosis is not an explanation as to why a fact is right. a hypothosis is an educated guess. I think that is what she meant by theory.

                                                                                                        That sounds pretty much exactly like how I interpreted it.

                                                                                                        @captain:

                                                                                                        and even though your stance on the issue is the same as mine, I am rather hurt by your harsh words. No need to call cosmic retarded. She is a nice person, who is really quite inteligent, and I respect what she has to say. A lot of people look up to her o this board.

                                                                                                        can you nicely point it out if you think she is wrong, instead of trying to show the whole board she is "stupid" I wouldn't like it if someone told me I was stupid because I didn't understand something.

                                                                                                        First of all I didn't call her retarded, I said she said something retarded (there's a difference). Who knows, maybe she was drunk, sick or just plain tired but it still wasn't a very smart thing to say.

                                                                                                        Secondly, it's not that people missunderstand it, it's why they (often seemingly intentionally) missunderstand it and what that kind of thinking tends to lead to that made me go on a rant rampage.

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