Wow…Im blown away, centipede where did you get that idea? I know you are jkg but its pretty random and I still want to know why you though of something like that.
Blackbeard rules over 100 islands in the Grand line, true story. I got it from the One Piece wiki talking about the anime.
@Al!naJames:
Quote in databook is Ace's from chapter 440. He said "You've been around TWICE as long".
(I was kind of shocked neither Greg nor Stephen could remember that on the podcast since they both discussed and brought it up after 576. Maybe not both, but I 100% remember either of them did)
@Al!naJames:
Everybody thought that, like everybody thought Luffy and Zoro's comment in Jaya refered to his crewmates.
Like I said, either Stephen or Greg did discuss it earlier, that what Ace said was really vague. On purpose.
I'm not sure I'm liking the way where this is going, Oda.
what did it refer to?
That he might have multiple personalities.
I certainly don't remember discussing that line at all so it might have been stephen. At the time I probably thought it meant his time in the crew but not for the life of me that it'd have ANYTHING to do with him being able to take on more than one DF.
Another idea running around is that he has one or possibly two extra hearts.
That he might have multiple personalities.
I certainly don't remember discussing that line at all so it might have been stephen. At the time I probably thought it meant his time in the crew but not for the life of me that it'd have ANYTHING to do with him being able to take on more than one DF.
Another idea running around is that he has one or possibly two extra hearts.
Oh man, who in the world came up with the extra heart theory? For some reason that just sounds more sinister than anything shown in one piece so far, even though it isn't. Just creepy! I don't hate the idea at all, and chances when they meet up with Vegapunk after resurfacing from Fishman island, he may explain that a DF is connected with the human heart. If so I think we can safely conclude why he can take on 2 fruits.
There are animals with multiple hearts, if this comes true I want SBS explanations!
That he might have multiple personalities. I certainly don't remember discussing that line at all so it might have been stephen. At the time I probably thought it meant his time in the crew but not for the life of me that it'd have ANYTHING to do with him being able to take on more than one DF. Another idea running around is that he has one or possibly two extra hearts.
I think she is confusing you two with Aohige. He was the primary person driving the theory, I believe. Even having read all his posts on it, and knowing the dialog is weird, I still don't buy it. Sure, him taking on the two Devil Fruits might be something to do with his stupidity and his body being "weird", per Marco, rather than just his Devil Fruit, but Luffy and Zoro referring to something other than his crew? Ace referring to an irregular body type when he says "TWICE as long"? It just seems like a weird conspiracy theory to me.
im not willing to theorize. id rather be surprised by the explanation of how Blackbeard has done all that.
If Blackbeard is gonna be a weird monster or something like that, I hope that its due to a Devil Fruit and not due to a different race or something.
I think she is confusing you two with Aohige. He was the primary person driving the theory, I believe. Even having read all his posts on it, and knowing the dialog is weird, I still don't buy it. Sure, him taking on the two Devil Fruits might be something to do with his stupidity and his body being "weird", per Marco, rather than just his Devil Fruit, but Luffy and Zoro referring to something other than his crew? Ace referring to an irregular body type when he says "TWICE as long"? It just seems like a weird conspiracy theory to me.
I wish I could remember things correctly… Sorry.
"Stupidity"?.. :wassat:
Main point right now is, like Stephen and Greg mentioned on the podcast, Ace's line is highlighted in Green to be the key to how he got second devil fruit.
Blackbeard is a very curious and ominous man and i'm very intrigued to see how he obtained that second devil fruit.
Even assuming the whole extra body parts thing, it doesn't explain the fact that he absorbed the power from another person, not just ate a second fruit. That could be attributed to his first DF though, and it explains why he wanted the Yami Yami no Mi so badly.
Look at all the facts:
From all this it's obvious that
a) it was his first time trying to eat another fruit, something made them assume he can take it, but it wasn't proven before
b) what made it possible is an abnormality in his body
c) if we take Ace's line for granted, it's only x2 (not x3, x5, x10)
@Cabanaman:
Even assuming the whole extra body parts thing, it doesn't explain the fact that he absorbed the power from another person, not just ate a second fruit. That could be attributed to his first DF though, and it explains why he wanted the Yami Yami no Mi so badly.
It was hinted in SBS that devil fruit re-appears in the world after user dies. We still don't know how and when so this is a very tough question for now. Yami-yami could have played a role in taking the fruit out of the body.
What Greg said about extra heart seems plausible.
Maybe the old man line about "one man, one heart." has another meaning.
Would it be same to assume that Blackbeard has got his entire crew now, or do you think that he could recruit another one or two? he was still needing a ship last we saw, so maybe he needs a shipwright too? Im interested in how he goes about gathering his crew since hes one of only 3 (that come to mind) crews that we've seen recruit other members. Personally i dont think we've seen anyone else yet who would fit with his ideals and methods - except maybe doflamingo, but as much as i would like him to join seems unlikely.
"So you want to be a pirate, eh? You look more like a flooring inspector"
I don't think there will be more people, as Luffy's initial set-sail line was "I want a crew of at least 10 people".
And yes, in case of BB having 2 hearts "I'm just an ordinary man with one heart" will be the biggest HAH! ever.
Would it be same to assume that Blackbeard has got his entire crew now, or do you think that he could recruit another one or two? he was still needing a ship last we saw, so maybe he needs a shipwright too? Im interested in how he goes about gathering his crew since hes one of only 3 (that come to mind) crews that we've seen recruit other members. Personally i dont think we've seen anyone else yet who would fit with his ideals and methods - except maybe doflamingo, but as much as i would like him to join seems unlikely.
its been 2 years….we'll have to wait and see if any1 new joined or not.
Though i could easily imagine a ton of strong pirates having joined his crew in the NW....or at least made allies over there...
Both Strawhat and Blackbeard pirates always were and always will be the small crews. Noboy needs fleets of fodder people.
@Al!naJames:
Main point right now is, like Stephen and Greg mentioned on the podcast, Ace's line is highlighted in Green to be the key to how he got second devil fruit.
Is that so? Well I still think the line from Zoro and Luffy being about Blackbeard's abnormality would be stupid. As is I'm on the fence, but Oda's pretty good about this stuff, so until he spills the beans I have no place to say it is good or bad.
@Al!naJames:
Both Strawhat and Blackbeard pirates always were and always will be the small crews. Noboy needs fleets of fodder people.
Except that BB Will never have allies.
They don't need any allies~
Shiki and Whitebeard did have alot of allies. Did it help them? No.
Perheps it did, on some ocasions…
If… blackbeard has two hearts... is he... a TIME LORD?:ninja:
The Cerberus or Chimera theory works for me.
Imagine a DF for each head!
That explains why he absorbed WB's power
@statu:
If… blackbeard has two hearts... is he... a TIME LORD?:ninja:
an earlier version of the MASTER perhaps?????!!!! :ninja:
About BB`s ability to take 2 DFs.
A thing i thought was weird while seeing it for the first time was,
why did he have to cover himself while taking the secon fruit..?
I mean when he`s the only man able to do so (and that only one time), why is there any need to hide it.
Also i think a big part of being able to have 2 DFs is the yami-yami-fruit itself.
In my eyes he creates a black hole in which he sucks the DF-ability and then he transfers it somehow in his unique body.
The quote Al!ina mentioned from the databook, has still to do with BB being twice as long a pirate and twice so experienced in my eyes.
BB lie quiet all the time, so Ace most likely only noticed that BB was some kind of unique, but i doubt that BB was talking with him :" ya know, i have two hearts\can live 200 yeras etc"..
By that i get an idea.
Maybe, yeah just maybe is BB the son of Saul and a normal human.
You know that would bring back this forgotten chara who had a D. in his name without any purpose so far.
Well, maybe it was any giant, but that could explain why he could longer live(giants 3x so long as a normal human) than any other "normal" human.(and he has such a size(like many OP-charas) which would indicate that he`s a giants bastard)
This talk is misguided, because you are still discussing the "two hearts" and having lived "twice as long," when the point of BB's future is his third life or 'third heart' if you will.
As Greg pointed out in the podcast, the connection between the three skulls and BB's plot within the story as well as the three classifications of devil fruit are not unaffiliated.
However, to date we don't have proof of the third occurrence, so I'll leave the hypothesis until a later time in the series.
Which begs the question: What zoan should BB eat?
a flying one… maybe a super strong flaming damage recovering mythical zoan :ninja:
Which begs the question: What zoan should BB eat?
I can imagine him eating like a Dragon fruit and then becoming a Darkness spewing, Earthquake making, giant black dragon….but then I think that he would be impossible to beat.
Another theory is that he already has a Zoan and its a Human Human fruit with a Mythical Zoan type (like Sengoku's) and that is the one that made him "enlightened" and able to consume more than one Devil Fruits. That means that he must have eaten it before either of the other fruits though...and knowing Oda he probably would have hinted to something like that, although the "strange body" Marco mentioned may be referring to the Mythical Zoan he ate.
@Al!naJames:
They don't need any allies~
Shiki and Whitebeard did have alot of allies. Did it help them? No.
How can you say that? Of course it helps… Helping and making successful isn't the same thing.
I can imagine him eating like a Dragon fruit and then becoming a Darkness spewing, Earthquake making, giant black dragon….but then I think that he would be impossible to beat.
Another theory is that he already has a Zoan and its a Human Human fruit with a Mythical Zoan type (like Sengoku's) and that is the one that made him "enlightened" and able to consume more than one Devil Fruits. That means that he must have eaten it before either of the other fruits though...and knowing Oda he probably would have hinted to something like that, although the "strange body" Marco mentioned may be referring to the Mythical Zoan he ate.
Why not cerberus like some people suggested? Or another thing with multiple heads x)
But whatever it is, I wonder why we never saw it… If there's something ^^
Which begs the question: What zoan should BB eat?
I'd go with the Chimera.
You got the Bad-ass dragon, PwnGoat and a lion's head!
what a fugly looking boss fight this will be.
Why can't Blackbeard get allies? He seemed to gotten his crew just because they have similar goals: humiliate, defile, rape, kill, rob… well OP doesn't emphasize rape, but it's stereotypical pirate behavior, and MANY pirates show it.
As for his third DF, I definitely believe it'll be a mythical zoan reputed to be indestructible. But it won't be the Phoenix fruit.
I'd go with the Chimera.
You got the Bad-ass dragon, PwnGoat and a lion's head!
what a fugly looking boss fight this will be.
Goat for Darkness, Dragon for quakes (?), Lion for…?
And isn't a chimera composed of Lion, goat and snake? Maybe BB ate the Custom Chimera fruit xD
Some animal related to Zeus, like a Eagle or perhaps a Phoenix.
Anyone who suggests a Cerberus Mythical Zoan will be shot.
Goat for Darkness, Dragon for quakes (?), Lion for…?
And isn't a chimera composed of Lion, goat and snake? Maybe BB ate the Custom Chimera fruit xD
PwnGoat for owning DF users with the black hole
Dragon for scaring the hell out of them with the quake
Lion for eating their abilities 
BB will never have allies because he's so independent/opinionated . He may have a bigger crew though. He seems to like people that think like him. I'd bet anything he will ask Luffy to work for him same way he did Ace.
what if someone like kaido and/or akainu joined blackbeard pirates. then bb crew wud probably surpass the roger and wb pirates.
what if someone like kaido and/or akainu joined blackbeard pirates. then bb crew wud probably surpass the roger and wb pirates.
That would also be incredibly retarded.
what if someone like kaido and/or akainu joined blackbeard pirates. then bb crew wud probably surpass the roger and wb pirates.
:w00t::w00t::w00t::w00t::w00t::w00t: That's incredibly stupid because the chance of that happening are less then Caribou(Coribou?) joining the strawhats.
:w00t::w00t::w00t::w00t::w00t::w00t: That's incredibly stupid because the chance of that happening are less then Caribou(Coribou?) joining the strawhats.
Even less than you being correct when talking about opinions.
Even less than you being correct when talking about opinions.
okay let's see here:
He thinks that them joining the BB crew would make them stronger then Roger pirates based on what? Nothing, and it's me that knows shit about opinions…
He can say all the retarded opinions he wants, but if you think I should not tell him outright how retarded they are, you can smd.
okay let's see here:
- we know shit about kaido
- we know akainu is a marine-nut-hugging justice enforcing prick
He thinks that them joining the BB crew would make them stronger then Roger pirates based on what? Nothing, and it's me that knows shit about opinions…
He can say all the retarded opinions he wants, but if you think I should not tell him outright how retarded they are, you can smd.
Ahhhh, this need of verbal violence… 
General Blackbeard? Doesn't he call himself Captain Blackbeard?
BB will never have allies because he's so independent/opinionated . He may have a bigger crew though. He seems to like people that think like him. I'd bet anything he will ask Luffy to work for him same way he did Ace.
I dunno about that. BB has said this is his era. Maybe he plans on world domination…just as soon as he becomes the Pirate King...for that..he'd need a big army of strong pirates willin to serve under him.
General Blackbeard? Doesn't he call himself Captain Blackbeard?
Its a General "disscusion" about Blackbeard
General Blackbeard? Doesn't he call himself Captain Blackbeard?
this is the funnies comment i've seen so far.
It cracked me up buggy.
Oh wait. you weren't joking are you? :ninja:
I was wondering who you would say is BBs second in command(or vize capt`n).
I was always thinking Van Auger would get that spot, but Lafitte also seems to be a fitting candidate.
He does talk a lot and was resposible for the task of bringing BBs name to the conference where they decided who should become the new shichibukai.
Also those new members like Shiryuu seem to be well-worth considering them for such a position.
So what do you guys\girls think about it?
Proabably Shilliew, if only to amp up the Zoro parallels.
