The Mermaid princess is friends with Jewelry Bonnie. The reason Bonnie was crying over whitebeards death was because she knew that her friend was in trouble. So now The mermaid princess will ask Luffy to help rescue Bonnie and Luffy and Co. will have to climb the red line into Mariejois.
Well anyway I can't see the story skipping such an important place as Mariejois.
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Fishman karate is already essentially waterbending.
Plus airbending if you get really advanced.
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Yeah I thought the same thing when I saw the anime episode, but I guess the anime makers just screwed up and have him falling down but not dieing. Because Akainu can't be dead, later on in the manga he has a scene with Blackbeard en Bonney remember.
Did Whitebeard kill Akainu before his death? I dont remember seeing or reading that in the manga, but in the anime, it seems Akainu was falling to this death by whitebeard.
Marines fell down with him so even if he fell into the water down there they could have saved him and it has Akainu coming thru the ground when he first comes back after that so he used his Magma powers to come thru the ground like a volcano.
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Plus airbending if you get really advanced.
Exactly. So I don't see why so many people are eager to see a water logia when fishman karate is essentially fighting via "waterbending" or whatever you want to call it.
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As for the waterbending theory, I'll admit a fruit having this sort of power has been a serious brain-picker for me. Can it be possible to have a Water Logia when Water is your ultimate weakness?
And I still say the cons massively outweigh the pros of Devils Fruit for all Mermaids and Fishmen. Again, when your strength comes from the sea, the last thing you'd do it eat something that will take away your strength and even your way of life.First of all, I never said that mermaid princess ate a water logia devil fruit. I just said "she can be a waterbender"
well, jokes aside. I really really want another girl as nakama. and I also want a girl that can be tough and rough, by her personality. somebody that is not viewed by its feminine sexuality, but can hang out with the guys naturally. but to have the ability to turn into a beautiful girl if situation deems it necessary. that's why i said someone like Toph, because her character was sweet and venerable to the public, but had secret religious guyish, messy attitude. like cagalli Yula athha in gundam seed. And I really think that, with mermaid princess being mentioned so much as she is, there's more to her story. things are not always what it seems.
ps. come to think of it, Akainu/ace is a firebender and Akoiji is waterbender
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@Hespia:
First of all, I never said that mermaid princess ate a water logia devil fruit. I just said "she can be a waterbender"
well, jokes aside. I really really want another girl as nakama. and I also want a girl that can be tough and rough, by her personality. somebody that is not viewed by its feminine sexuality, but can hang out with the guys naturally. but to have the ability to turn into a beautiful girl if situation deems it necessary. that's why i said someone like Toph, because her character was sweet and venerable to the public, but had secret religious guyish, messy attitude. like cagalli Yula athha in gundam seed. And I really think that, with mermaid princess being mentioned so much as she is, there's more to her story. things are not always what it seems.
ps. come to think of it, Akainu/ace is a firebender and Akoiji is waterbender
200 bucks say you cried when Aang downed Ozai. In all seriousness though this isn't Avatar, Oda doesn't do the whole 'balance of the elements' thing as far as we've seen so just because the others are there given the whole 'Hammer' thing we're unlikely to see anything more then Fishman Karate with respect to the control of water.
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@Hespia:
well, jokes aside. I really really want another girl as nakama. and I also want a girl that can be tough and rough, by her personality. somebody that is not viewed by its feminine sexuality, but can hang out with the guys naturally. but to have the ability to turn into a beautiful girl if situation deems it necessary.
This is exactly why I say Jewelry Bonney will join. She doesn't have a crew anymore for all we know, and as far as Im concerned everything in one piece happens for a reason, like Oda making a character with a 100mil+ bounty and a unique devil fruit, and basically has her captured after making very few appearances.
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This is exactly why I say Jewelry Bonney will join. She doesn't have a crew anymore for all we know, and as far as Im concerned everything in one piece happens for a reason, like Oda making a character with a 100mil+ bounty and a unique devil fruit, and basically has her captured after making very few appearances.
Don't 100% agree with you that she'll join but to add to your arguement she already has this mystery of why Akainu was trying to capture her like that, it's as though she's important to the marines somehow, which suggests she might be a world noble maybe? Could even have some connection to Sabo.
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"In my opinion, if even Hammond doesn't know how strong Hyouzou is, then it could mean his identity and goal at this point is still unclear. If Hammond know that Hyouzou's much stronger than him, he couldn't act like their leader even if he was ordered by Noah."
i can´t believe this... the theory that not even Hammond knew Hyouzou strenght...
is quite stupid...-he´s his nakama... it´s like luffy not knowing what zoro can do or how strong he is
-who cares if your nakama´s stronger than you? Hammond acted as leader coz he has way more charisma than him!
-or maybe hyouzou is in charge and doesnt gives a shit about being leader...but it´s quite obvious that Hammond is aware of his nakamas power and potential.
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actually i do believe in a water logia.
as long as oda will give us a good explanation coming with it, anything is possible.i never expected the Straw Hats to go to mariejoa, but (whoever said it) was right. i can't see oda skipping such a place.
or maybe they'll go back later (at the point of the 2nd War)And IMO the crew is already complete.
they've got 10 members now, and all of them share two things:
~ They have a dream
~ They got stronger from the timeskip.
it is possible that oda really meant that luffy wanted 10 friends, thus making it 11 members, but 11 isn't really a logical number.
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The crew has 9 members unless you consider the ship a member, and Luffy said that he wanted AT LEAST 10 members. The chances of them getting few more members are high, although i agree that the crew is getting too big and I don't want anymore crew members to join.
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actually i do believe in a water logia.
as long as oda will give us a good explanation coming with it, anything is possible.i never expected the Straw Hats to go to mariejoa, but (whoever said it) was right. i can't see oda skipping such a place.
or maybe they'll go back later (at the point of the 2nd War)And IMO the crew is already complete.
they've got 10 members now, and all of them share two things:
~ They have a dream
~ They got stronger from the timeskip.
it is possible that oda really meant that luffy wanted 10 friends, thus making it 11 members, but 11 isn't really a logical number.
also, the more members they get, the harder it will become to show them all and give them enough to do and say.16 characters of wrong
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And IMO the crew is already complete.
they've got 10 members now, and all of them share two things:
~ They have a dream
~ They got stronger from the timeskip.
it is possible that oda really meant that luffy wanted 10 friends, thus making it 11 members, but 11 isn't really a logical number.
also, the more members they get, the harder it will become to show them all and give them enough to do and say.1 Ship is wood. Wood.
2 Luffy stated he wanted 10 guys. We can take that to mean 10 new crewmates. That actually makes it more likely there will be TWO more members as it sounds as though he's excluding himself.
3 How is 11 not a 'logical number'. what is THAT?
4 There are more than 9 people in the world with a dream.
5 I believe one of the last data books pretty much stated there will be more, would appreciate if someone could find that quote. Oda also stated in an SBS something similarly cryptic hinting towards a NN in the new world
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This is exactly why I say Jewelry Bonney will join. She doesn't have a crew anymore for all we know, and as far as Im concerned everything in one piece happens for a reason, like Oda making a character with a 100mil+ bounty and a unique devil fruit, and basically has her captured after making very few appearances.
Don't 100% agree with you that she'll join but to add to your arguement she already has this mystery of why Akainu was trying to capture her like that, it's as though she's important to the marines somehow, which suggests she might be a world noble maybe? Could even have some connection to Sabo.
But that's a long shot.I hadn't thought about it before, but these are theories I like very much.
To add to it, I'll point out she's had some important interaction with Zoro.Now I'll be quiet before the Theories thread turns into the Nakamates thread.
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My theory is that Dragon will have a final battle with the Marines pretty soon. Just in the way that Whitebeard did. But of course for different reasons.
I believe that when Luffy comes up from Fishman island, he and the crew will be right in the middle of a war that the revolutionaries have thrown against the Marines.
My reasoning for this is that it seems like Dragon's only reason to be in the new world would be to attack the Marines. And given Odas past, it seems very likely that Luffy will have to meet up with his dad once again.
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Nah, I think Dragon is too smart try to take the government head-on. (Just my impression)
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After re-reading the Hodi Jones chapter, I noticed the New Fishman Pirates bring up Arlong again. Now this made me ask "What for?" Arlong was a p.o.s. nobody from East Blue in comparison with what the Grand Line and certainly New World will have to offer. Sure, he was the strongest enemy the SHs faced in East Blue, but that was East Blue, the weakest sea. What are these guys doing giving a flying care about Arlong fr?
And so to answer this puzzling question, I have developed a new theory.Arlong and Hodi Jones are both direct descendants of Fisher Tiger. I'll even go so far as to say they're brothers.
I'll back this up with
http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/15771776/15
where you can see Zeo mention Fisher Tiger and Arlong in the same train of thought.Furthermore, while I once thought one type of fishman + another type of fishwoman = a fishman of similar basis, this is not the case. The Princes of Fishman Island are all different types of Fishmen, and different than King Neptune to boot! Plus the princess is a mermaid! So Hodi Jones and Arlong being different species of shark does not disprove my theory.
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After re-reading the Hodi Jones chapter, I noticed the New Fishman Pirates bring up Arlong again. Now this made me ask "What for?" Arlong was a p.o.s. nobody from East Blue in comparison with what the Grand Line and certainly New World will have to offer.
I think you're seriously underestimating Arlong. He bribed officials to keep his profile and bounty low, but remember he had aspirations to conquer the entirety of East Blue and might have gotten away with it had Luffy not intervened. He's at the very least as strong as an average Grand Line pirate. I have no doubt he would have been able to kick Bellamy's ass with little effort and Bellamy was pretty notorious. You also forget that between EL and EB, Luffy didn't grow much in strength. Arlong was defeated by the same person who defeated Crocodile, a shichibukai, and who defeated Enel, he just happened to be the first. And Luffy had advantages over Enel and Crocodile he did not have over Arlong.
(not saying that Arlong was stronger than Enel or Crocodile, but he could have been near their levels)Arlong and Hodi Jones are both direct descendants of Fisher Tiger. I'll even go so far as to say they're brothers.
You say that as if Fisher Tiger attacked Mariejois 130 years ago instead of 13.
The Princes of Fishman Island are all different types of Fishmen, and different than King Neptune to boot! Plus the princess is a mermaid! So Hodi Jones and Arlong being different species of shark does not disprove my theory.
The princes of fishman island and Neptune are all mermen, not fishmen. And the reason why they're all different species might be because Neptune could have several wives. While it's possible Fisher Tiger had more than one wife and thus could have sons that have different species from him and from another (assuming Fisher Tiger was a tiger shark), I'm not totally sure whether to pull out the family card. Oda seems to avoid the whole "I'm your father gasp" kind of thing, preferring to rely on relationships that are like family but really are not. He even seems to go out of his way for this.
The reason why Arlong and Fisher Tiger are mentioned in the same sentence is most likely because Arlong was set on establishing East Blue as an ocean where fishmen would rule over humans instead of the other way around and be subject to slavery. He was seen as fighting for the fishman cause.
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The princes of fishman island and Neptune are all mermen, not fishmen. And the reason why they're all different species might be because Neptune could have several wives.
Man don't accuse people of polygamy until you have proof.
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Man don't accuse people of polygamy until you have proof.
Well, judging by Pappagg's explanation, there's absolutely no way the princes and the princess and Neptune himself could all have different fish bases. What I got from it was that the offspring could be the father's or the mother's fish base (or race, if they are a merman-fishman marriage), thus it should be impossible that all of them are completely different if it's a monogamous thing.
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well all that I got from the explanation was that if you cross breed between Fishmen/women and Merfolk their children will turn out to be any of the four types fishmen/women, Mermen/maid. From what i can see Pappug didn't say anything about specific fish types. unless the translation is wrong.
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After re-reading the Hodi Jones chapter, I noticed the New Fishman Pirates bring up Arlong again. Now this made me ask "What for?" Arlong was a p.o.s. nobody from East Blue in comparison with what the Grand Line and certainly New World will have to offer.
You're mistaking Arlong's importance to the New Fishman Pirates. Not once have they said anything about his strength, but it was his ideals that they're constantly going on about. His will. Also, Arlong wasn't from East Blue. He was from Fishman island and went to East Blue in order to implement his plan of gradual Fishman take over. It's obvious that they all knew Arlong and/or at the very least was an idol/important figure of theirs since he seems to be the first to set out on that plan. The New Fishman Pirates intend to carry out Arlong's will (though in a different fashion).
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heres a thought, WHAT IF!!!
Shakey is Luffy's mom, Rayleigh is Shakey's dad….. that would be weird if it worked out in such a way, i mean it isnt uncommon for oda to give the main characters crazy cool lineages (example: Usopp's dad is Yasopp, Roger is Ace's dad, Dragon is Luffy's dad, and Garp is Dragon's dad)....Just a thought, oh, and nothing has been said (too my knowledge) about Luffy's mom's side of his family. -
Shakky was a pirate 42 years ago, Rayleigh's in his 70s or something like that (basing off of Newgate's age of 72 at death). That means 42 years ago, he was in his 30s. There's no way he'd have a kid and that kid be an active pirate while he's in his 30s.
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heres a thought, WHAT IF!!!
Shakey is Luffy's mom, Rayleigh is Shakey's dad….. that would be weird if it worked out in such a way, i mean it isnt uncommon for oda to give the main characters crazy cool lineages (example: Usopp's dad is Yasopp, Roger is Ace's dad, Dragon is Luffy's dad, and Garp is Dragon's dad)....Just a thought, oh, and nothing has been said (too my knowledge) about Luffy's mom's side of his family.You are great. Really great.
Sadly Shakey and Luffy have met and she said nothing =(
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Shiraboshi ate a devil fruit that let's her change her size
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Big Mom's candy factory is a cover for shipping drugs
Would be pretty funny except I actually think this is possible
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I think you're seriously underestimating Arlong. He bribed officials to keep his profile and bounty low, but remember he had aspirations to conquer the entirety of East Blue and might have gotten away with it had Luffy not intervened. He's at the very least as strong as an average Grand Line pirate. I have no doubt he would have been able to kick Bellamy's ass with little effort and Bellamy was pretty notorious. You also forget that between EL and EB, Luffy didn't grow much in strength. Arlong was defeated by the same person who defeated Crocodile, a shichibukai, and who defeated Enel, he just happened to be the first. And Luffy had advantages over Enel and Crocodile he did not have over Arlong.
(not saying that Arlong was stronger than Enel or Crocodile, but he could have been near their levels)You say that as if Fisher Tiger attacked Mariejois 130 years ago instead of 13.
The princes of fishman island and Neptune are all mermen, not fishmen. And the reason why they're all different species might be because Neptune could have several wives. While it's possible Fisher Tiger had more than one wife and thus could have sons that have different species from him and from another (assuming Fisher Tiger was a tiger shark), I'm not totally sure whether to pull out the family card. Oda seems to avoid the whole "I'm your father gasp" kind of thing, preferring to rely on relationships that are like family but really are not. He even seems to go out of his way for this.
The reason why Arlong and Fisher Tiger are mentioned in the same sentence is most likely because Arlong was set on establishing East Blue as an ocean where fishmen would rule over humans instead of the other way around and be subject to slavery. He was seen as fighting for the fishman cause.
Ah yes. Thanks for correcting the little flaws in my explanation. Those were mostly on account of I'm an idiot.
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Recently, I've started to believe that all Saijou Wazamono, Ouwazamono, Ryouwazamono and Wazamono have been created in Wano Kuni (where Ace learned to make Oars' hat)… In RL, there's a "list of wazamono" which is a list of the 228 best swordsmiths.
And additionally I thinkt that more than only the Kokuto Yoru aren't katana-like swords, e.g. all Saijou Wazamono ... I could think of a Bisento or a Kodachi to be classified as Saijou Wazamono, too...
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Big Mom's candy factory is a cover for shipping drugs
Shiraboshi ate a devil fruit that let's her change her size
Either Shiraboshi ate a devil fruit or it might be Big Mom that did and she made the princess that huge in order to force the king into makeing the drugs for her. The protecting the island is all a big sham.
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Wouldn't making the Princess huge actually help because it would make it harder for people to steal her?
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Wouldn't making the Princess huge actually help because it would make it harder for people to steal her?
Unfortunately, Caribou Can Swallow her inside his Swamp body.
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1 Ship is wood. Wood.
2 Luffy stated he wanted 10 guys. We can take that to mean 10 new crewmates. That actually makes it more likely there will be TWO more members as it sounds as though he's excluding himself.
3 How is 11 not a 'logical number'. what is THAT?
4 There are more than 9 people in the world with a dream.
5 I believe one of the last data books pretty much stated there will be more, would appreciate if someone could find that quote. Oda also stated in an SBS something similarly cryptic hinting towards a NN in the new world
6 Oda will show it.
7 I want more. MOAR.Yeah it said we would be getting one in the new world meaning if we get one at fishman island we can still get one in the new world and for people saying fishman island is in the new world go look at the chapter before the current one that came out this week he sends a group of pirates up to the new world so they can tell them how powerful he is.
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When Zoro gets serious and puts his bandanna on his missing/closed eye will glow.
He hasn't put that thing on since Kaku has he?
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When Zoro gets serious and puts his bandanna on his missing/closed eye will glow.
He hasn't put that thing on since Kaku has he?
TB Vs. Oz He did.
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TB Vs. Oz He did.
And then afterwards he took it off and he was all like
Zoro's missing eye will have some kinda of strong significance and he will have at least one move relating to it.
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Its been bothering me that Luffy's been making so many allies that in the future where the war that WhiteBeard Predicted takes place luffy would be so powerful against the World government.
If we list the number of Powerful allies luffy has gathered add them with the Revolutionary's and pirates who have allied with luffy or Just hate the Goverment, than we get a defeated World government. Easily.
I would like to have luffy run into more places where he ends up not losing but having powerful organizations trying take him out.(like The celestial dragons)
I would like to make a list of the allies and enemies luffy might have during the time this war takes place.
What Organization would or are in Alliance with the government right now or will be.With Government
- Marines "This organization alone is very powerful but the allies luffy has can over power this group alone."
- Some of the Kings with their armies.
- Bounty hunter's
- Kuma "he could even Flip sides later" Shichibukai
- Doflamingo Shichibukai
- Mihawk "he might flip sides as well" uncertain. Shichibukai
- Buggy (maybe)Shichibukai
- Magellan "impel Down"
- Celestial Dragons
- 3 More new Shichibukais
- Ancient Weapons
Now if we look at the the Allies Luffy has is its kinda Overwhelming IMHO.
With Luffy
- Dragon "Revolutionary's"
- Hancock kingdom
- Vivi kingdom
- Dalton kingdom
- Wiper, Gan Fall kingdom
- King Neptune "maybe" kingdom
- Jimbe "Fishmans"
- few More Kingdoms in the future who will ally with luffy Mostly likely
- Shanks
- Marco
- Ancient weapons "robin knows" Cobra too
and we have groups who are Individualist who do what they please but tend to lean more towards the side fighting the government, though some of them might be luffy's sworne enemies they also do not benefit the governments purpose aswell.
Individualist
- Blackbeard
- moria
- Supernova's "some might ally with luffy, some might even be shichibukai's."
- Kaidou yonkou "possible ally of Government if not now but later due to him stopping shanks and issue's with moria who now will go against the Government."
- big mam yonkou "possible ally of luffy if she is lolo's mom."
- Enel (maybe ally with government and his new moon army)
- Crocodile "possible ally of luffy, cause of his more hate for the government"
- Cp9 "They can go ethier way now" mostly with smoker and still with government
- East blue Villains " gin , Kuro, Krieg, They can go Ethier way too."
- And more pirates
Each person i have mentioned Brings very powerful people with them some with armies.
OF course we still have half of one piece left to go (10 more years) so many more characters to come.
and am sure oda will handle his Characters properly and give them proper screen time , the new and old Characters.This is just a personally theory of mine,but i believe luffy will go against the revolutionaries too. and i wish it so.
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Big Mom's candy factory is a cover for shipping drugs
Shiraboshi ate a devil fruit that let's her change her size
If Shiraboshi ate a df she would be a hammer underwater. I highly doubt it.
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I was on Mangahelpers.com and I came across an interesting theory that somebody made about what One Piece is. Credit goes to Freid on MH.
One Piece is the Ancient Kingdom.
One Piece is not treasure, it does not have anything to do with Roger’s most valuable possession, be it his strawhat or a Portgas D. Rouge picture, and neither is it meant to be something materialistically gratifying for the person that finds it. One Piece, the will of ‘D’ and the distant Great War are all interlinked.
Whitebeard says on this page that Teach is not the one Roger is ‘waiting’ for. This implies that the nature of One Piece extends beyond it supposedly being a reward of some kind. There is a task that needs fulfilling which one particular person is destined for. This person would find One Piece, otherwise known as ‘The Ancient Kingdom’. The discovery would be the catalyst for the greatest war ever to be seen.
Whitebeard’s final words foreshadowed what One Piece is. They were: ‘Sengoku, you people of the world government are living in fear of that great battle that will someday engulf the entire world. Though it’s nothing to do with me, when somebody finally finds that treasure, the world will be turned upside down. Oh yes, it will be found. That day will come without a doubt’.
The discovery of One Piece, as implied by these words, is going to be the trigger for the future catastrophic war that will engulf the world, which the World Government are afraid of. During Whitebeard’s final proclamation, Sengoku gets agitated by Whitebeard insisting that One Piece will definitely be found. This suggests that the World Government are fully aware of what One Piece is, and its discovery is significant also to them. If One Piece were the Ancient Kingdom itself, then its finding would be highly consequential and meaningful to them, considering the fact that we have been explicitly shown that any potential knowledge of it warrants death.
Moreover, here, just before Professor Clover was able to mention the name of the Ancient Kingdom, he was shot dead. Why did Oda intentionally keep the name a mystery to us? What other name can the Ancient Kingdom possibly be called, for Oda to expressly decide to keep it anonymous?
The real purpose of Roger initiating the pirate age was in certainty that amongst the many that set sail, would emerge a particular person that inherited his will and would find One Piece; The Ancient Kingdom. With the discovery of the Ancient Kingdom, would the truth be unveiled, in which the war which Whitebeard had predicted will take place upon the uncovering of One Piece, will ensue. ‘A man will come forth to challenge the world’ and The Government will once again attempt to eradicate what is left of the Ancient Kingdom but history will be rewritten.
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wow surprised nobody's biting. Oh wait ….
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The idea that One Piece is something from the ancient kingdom is pretty much the most popular theory out there.
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The theory doesn't say it is something from the ancient kingdom. it says it is the ancient kingdom itself. as in the ancient kingdom is called one piece. get it?
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You've already posited the argument that the knowledge that it contains is what is important, so whether it's a single artefact or the entire city is really beside the point.
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OF course we still have half of one piece left to go (10 more years) so many more characters to come.
Don't be so sure… The war that the treasure might start can be long. Wouldn't wonder if it takes more then 10 years.
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