Here is Lola's mom, same face and hat, and a NW captain:
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/551/12-13/
Hahaha I love that page. Whitebeard kicks it with some weird mofos.
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Theories That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread
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nay, lola's mom is the ice witch white bay. Should be obvious to anyone who sees her.
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hmmm, if Shanks is a pro WB and Kaidou is an anti WB, i believe the 4th Yonkou (which most likely he/she will be Lola's Mom, I believe, again) is netral.
hmmm, I'm not using any lame signature
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hmmm, if Shanks is a pro WB and Kaidou is an anti WB, i believe the 4th Yonkou (which most likely he/she will be Lola's Mom, I believe, again) is netral.
You make it sound like Shanks kisses WB's feet.
But 'tis possible…
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the moustache should be a hint
where do you see this so called mustache? I onlu see WB's and Garp's and they are obviously not the 4th yonkou except perhaps in a dumb prediction thread. . . if you are referring too the smurk on the face of the grinning yonkou, those are called teeth
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Whitebeard is using the Quake Quake fruit's power to beat his heart at a regular pace, thus why he's not hooked up to any medical equipment.
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Looks like a man to me (the moustache should be a hint).. and the other one looks like Wario.
Here is Lola's mom, same face and hat, and a NW captain:
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/551/12-13/How does look like Lola? Looks like Kokoro had a daughter if you asked me.
Lets all admit it already guys that other yonkou in the silhouette looks like Wanze.
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I thought 1 of them actually looked like a women.
And since we'r on this.
Speculation : Lola's mum is the 4th Yonkou
The Yonkou you have depicted in this photo as a woman and Lolas mother is in fact Kaidoh and is a man if you don't believe me type Kaidoh Yonkou in the google image search and it will show pictures of Kaidoh and his $850,000,000 bounty.
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The Yonkou you have depicted in this photo as a woman and Lolas mother is in fact Kaidoh and is a man if you don't believe me type Kaidoh Yonkou in the google image search and it will show pictures of Kaidoh and his $850,000,000 bounty.
Good shit. Real good.
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Another theory I have in mind:
You guys remember the chapter with Granny Nyon going all "Love is always a hurricane!!! DON!!!" during Amzaon Lily?
Of course you do, who'd forget such aterrible"unique" chapter…
But my theory is that this phrase Nyon used, could actually be related to Dragon and something he did in the past!First we have this obvious connection to the wind, something drawn very close to Dragon and his family:
Dragon saving Luffy with a storm back in Loguetown, him listening to the wind and a rather subtle one, Luffy growing up in a windmill village.
But that alone isn't really enough to build a theory up on it.What made me really take notice is that Nyon mentioned, it was a phrase used only in the East Blue, Dragon's and Luffy's home.
So I take those little hints and say we might get to hear a story of Dragon saving a loved one in the past. And him literally using a hurricane to do so.
This event stuck so much in people's minds, it spawned an idiom in the East.
I admit, it does sound kinda corny
@Kabi:oh shi she does look like lola
lol
Dude, Lola is much hotter than that!
Wait, did I just say that out loud?@Fiasco.:
Good shit. Real good.
Yeah it really is!
I typed it in and it's really there! Man, it's so cool how Google Image already has stuff that hasn't happened in the manga yet.
It's like a goddamn timemachine or something! Incredible! -
Blackbeard will get the Oro Jackson from level 6 of Impel Down.
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Hey maybe buggy will save ace. Someone could think they had chopped him in half and he could basically carry ace through the air with his levitating limbs when they are distracted. He is a pretty unknown pirate after all (at least prior to his actions over the last day) and I am sure most marines don't yet know of his sneaky ability.
I am liking this running gag of buggy being mistaken for someone much greater than he is…
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At one point, a lion with a human face was seen prior to Absalom's introduction. Oda later confirmed that the lion's face was indeed used on Absalom face by Hogback. However, the lion's human face was never Absalom's. Absalom's human face may be on another zombie elsewhere. While answering this question, Oda also noted that Absalom has very few Japanese fans and was reluctant to say more on the matter
Looks like Oda does not want to answer it because it will be revealed in the story! And we know that absalom still cross the sea, wih Hogback.
Theorie: Absalom's face come from Killer.
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@People:
Looks like Oda does not want to answer it because it will be revealed in the story! And we know that absalom still cross the sea, wih Hogback.
Theorie: Absalom's face come from Killer.
http://nsa09.casimages.com/img/2009/10/01/09100102053199094.jpg
http://nsa09.casimages.com/img/2009/10/01/091001020645530411.jpg
I definitely see the resemblance between Absalom and killer, and I think that it's pretty cool you pointed this out. However, I don't see why Absaloms human face had to come from someone that looks like him. Are you just picking out Killer because his face has not been relieved? Either way I think it's a badass theory.
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@People:
Looks like Oda does not want to answer it because it will be revealed in the story! And we know that absalom still cross the sea, wih Hogback.
Theorie: Absalom's face come from Killer.
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Whoa not far fetched idea!
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Why would Absalom need new eyes and ears? He's human to begin with.
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Why would Absalom need new eyes and ears? He's human to begin with.
This motivated me to re-reading the theory. I think it needs to be modified a bit. The human part of Absaloms face was always there. So maybe we should say Killer has the other part of Absaloms human face?
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Theory time:
Kuma joined Dragons army to repent his previous bad deeds. He realized after he met SH that killing good people inorder to save nations from WG wasn't a good way to repent. So he decided to save SH one last time and have his consciousness removed so that he could still be with the Revolutionary army without feeling any guilt. Him being religious might also have something to do with this.
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BB and Shiryuu rescue Bon Curry, after that, they want him to join BB, exchange to his life Bon Curry swears it! and then he turns back as a Bad ass straight guy! but he can´t fight against the Strawhats
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Bon Curry
Um…
and then he turns back as a Bad ass straight guy!
No. He's not even necessarily gay, and how does his sexuality affect his badassness?
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dunno maybe just like Sanji!?
(sorry in the german version, they call him bon Curry
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But Sanji's in denial of his homosexuality.
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Bon seems too weak for BB pirates, he's weaker than Sanji during Alabasta and weaker than Hina.
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and BB's crew seems kind of dark and Bon is colourfull, he wouldn't really fit in with a crew of such manly men
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I just saw Absalom/Killer theory, but if I recall correctly the Lion had Absalom's face and Absalom's had the Lion's face
No way Bon Kurei would join an enemy of Luffy again
My Theory Buggy will become a Younkou after the War is over
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I just saw Absalom/Killer theory, but if I recall correctly the Lion had Absalom's face and Absalom's had the Lion's face
No way Bon Kurei would join an enemy of Luffy again
My Theory Buggy will become a Younkou after the War is over
lol that's a good theory. Whitebeard dies in the war, and they pass the title to the brave pirate who is friend of shanks, appretice of Gol D. And fought along the legendary Whitebeard in the war. Buggy for Yonkou!
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I just saw Absalom/Killer theory, but if I recall correctly the Lion had Absalom's face and Absalom's had the Lion's face
No way Bon Kurei would join an enemy of Luffy again
My Theory Buggy will become a Younkou after the War is over
Someone above said it earlier. Absolom did have the Lion's face Oda told us in an SBS, and said that the face that the Lion had was not Absalomes.
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and BB's crew seems kind of dark and Bon is colourfull, he wouldn't really fit in with a crew of such manly men
Those manly men must have manly needs as well. Someone needs to be the bitch.
One Piece chapter 6xx, somewhere in the New World:
Blackbeard: Shanks never told you what happened to your father.
Usopp: He told me enough! He told me you killed him.
Blackbeard: No. I am your father.
Usopp: noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!
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New theory to talk about:
Anyway, recently, a young man told me that Whitebeard is being stupid because with his power he could take out the entire base by himself. Dumb kid. Sengoku and Garp are there.
Anyway, I have an idea of why Sengoku is the top brass in the Marines. I'm guessing he has the power to nullify all effects. It's different from Blackbeard's power and Kuma's power. Blackbeard has the ability to nullify all DF powers when he touches the user, but he can't just nullify anything, like fire and poison. Kuma needs to block attacks with his palms to prevent damage. Sengoku's theoretical power can nullify all attacks in a certain area around him, Devil fruit powers, Haki, and physical attacks, but only as far as his mind and body can sustain. To battle this power, a person will need enormous strength and will power to overcome his ability.
I think Sengoku might really have this power because in the story of the Buddha, immediately before reaching enlightenment, the to-be-Buddha (Bodhisatva) Siddartha was challenged by the lord of conflict Mara to the full extent of Mara's fury, greed and pride. Buddha, unflinching, summoned the spirit of the Earth and blew away all of Mara's evil into a gentle breeze of flower petals. This fits with Sengoku's nickname of the Buddha.
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Those manly men must have manly needs as well. Someone needs to be the bitch.
He can make a full anatomical change into Nami and probably a bunch of other women. He'd make one heck of a bitch. But really, they'll just kill him when he starts singing and dancing. The BB crew is evil. Shiryuu is a mass murderer. The doc tried to poison Luffy with an apple. Bon Kurei doesn't fit in.. he's a good guy
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New theory to talk about:
Anyway, recently, a young man told me that Whitebeard is being stupid because with his power he could take out the entire base by himself. Dumb kid. Sengoku and Garp are there.
Anyway, I have an idea of why Sengoku is the top brass in the Marines. I'm guessing he has the power to nullify all effects. It's different from Blackbeard's power and Kuma's power. Blackbeard has the ability to nullify all DF powers when he touches the user, but he can't just nullify anything, like fire and poison. Kuma needs to block attacks with his palms to prevent damage. Sengoku's theoretical power can nullify all attacks in a certain area around him, Devil fruit powers, Haki, and physical attacks, but only as far as his mind and body can sustain. To battle this power, a person will need enormous strength and will power to overcome his ability.
I think Sengoku might really have this power because in the story of the Buddha, immediately before reaching enlightenment, the to-be-Buddha (Bodhisatva) Siddartha was challenged by the lord of conflict Mara to the full extent of Mara's fury, greed and pride. Buddha, unflinching, summoned the spirit of the Earth and blew away all of Mara's evil into a gentle breeze of flower petals. This fits with Sengoku's nickname of the Buddha.
I like it, seems like it could be likely. However it could be that buddha is an ironic nickname and he is really the most bloodthirsty of them all lol.
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sengoku just pasy them and strategizes but as a last resort he will use pluton or some weapon/DF becausehe loves to keep secrets according to no one knowing about luffy's dad
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After the war scenario:
Ace was saved…HURRAY!!!.... but WB was critically wounded by Blackbeard. Both the marines and the WB have had huge losses.
After the war, Luffy heads out to find the rest of the crew, but he needs aid in finding them, in comes Ivankov's group and Hancock's crew. Hancock who attacked a marine officer was stripped of her shichibukai status and has decided to join the revolutionaries to improve her odds against the WG. Luffy's new crew traveled the calm belt using Hancock's ship. Ivankov guides them to the Revolutionary main base, to get info, supplies, reinforcements, etc. Luffy then meets Dragon. They did some talking blah blah blah. Then it is revealed that Kuma is Ivankov's brother, not that shocking but I want to mention it...Lol...anyways. With their new info, Luffy sets out to gather his crew back, taking the short cut route of the calm belt.
Jinbei fleds back into the new world as a new ally of the WB pirates. Buggy, Mr. 3 and the escape convicts band together to form a new crew. Crocodile's shichibukai status will be reinstated.
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^Ignoring the other "theory" stuff only flaw I see is that Hancock's ship is at AL unless you met the marine ship she was escorted to Marineford with.
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Well, we are not certain if its still in AL after the war, they could have went after her in marineford. I dont see a flaw there.
She can probably call out to them, their should be a communication line between her and her crew. She is in a hostile environemnet in the first place. She is a pirate in a marine main base. Imo they are just near by waiting for her commands.
Or
Luffy's gang could overtake a battleship and meet up with the Kuja Pirates in the calm belt, just pick your choice of possible scenarios.
To add, that sea serpent powered ship is the best mode of transportation in the calm belt for the reasons that:
1.) It is rare for sea kings to attack the serpents drawing the boat making it a safer to travel.
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It's getting to be pretty clear that the Shickibukai will cease to exist by the time this war is over.
-Jinbei has left the Shickibukai
-Boa Hancock has left the Shickibukai
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Actually, it seems to be that Kuma is going to defect because he ISN'T dead. His Warlord status seems to be related to the fact that he's a Pacifista prototype, which is clearly what erased a majority of his mind. But the fact that he gave up the chance to kill the Strawhats twice and even helped them the second time means that enough of him is probably still concious, despite what Doflamingo brags.
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why are you having the exact same conversation here as in the "questions that don't deserve their own thread" thread?
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Has anyone noticed how the Shichibukai have been excluded from the TOTTZ plan? Could Sengoku secretly be trying to wipe them out as well? I think he may be trying to.
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Has anyone noticed how the Shichibukai have been excluded from the TOTTZ plan? Could Sengoku secretly be trying to wipe them out as well? I think he may be trying to.
That wouldn't make sense. He'd have to make sure WB dies first before he even thought of that and that wouldn't suddenly make him forget there are 3 other yonkou..
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Has anyone noticed how the Shichibukai have been excluded from the TOTTZ plan? Could Sengoku secretly be trying to wipe them out as well? I think he may be trying to.
Isn't it because the Shichibukai only answer to the World Goverment and not the Marines?
Moria the Great…
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Has anyone noticed how the Shichibukai have been excluded from the TOTTZ plan? Could Sengoku secretly be trying to wipe them out as well? I think he may be trying to.
I had a similar idea. It's a bit farfetched but it's a possibility. Something like - Sengoku intends to wipe out all the pirates, shichibukai and WB pirates alike, with his master plan. The new era shichibukai will be highly advanced pacifistas.
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Isn't it because the Shichibukai only answer to the World Goverment and not the Marines?
Yeah but they won't be able to do that if they're caught in Sengoku's plan, and we've yet to see them receive any notification.
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I had a similar idea. It's a bit farfetched but it's a possibility. Something like - Sengoku intends to wipe out all the pirates, shichibukai and WB pirates alike, with his master plan. The new era shichibukai will be highly advanced pacifistas.
7 Kumas? Meh. Mindless drones that obey the marines?
I liked the shichibukai cuz all of them were different and varied in fighting skill and ability. Along with their personalities.
I don't see Oda killing Doflamingo right now.
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@Zik:
7 Kumas? Meh. Mindless drones that obey the marines?
I liked the shichibukai cuz all of them were different and varied in fighting skill and ability. Along with their personalities.
I don't see Oda killing Doflamingo right now.
Well of course the plan wouldn't work, but even the Yonkou don't explain away Sengoku's intentions so they may have 7 WMD Kuma's prepared to replace the Shichibukai otherwise why haven't they been notified of the plan?
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Well of course the plan wouldn't work, but even the Yonkou don't explain away Sengoku's intentions so they may have 7 WMD Kuma's prepared to replace the Shichibukai otherwise why haven't they been notified of the plan?
There's no way 7 Kumas can effectively replace the shichibukai. I don't really feel like explaining the reasons why the shichi were formed and everything their position entails.
I'll basically say that as powerful as the pacifista are or the completed ones will be they're not a replacement. That doesn't make sense. The shichi currently are playing their roles in this war. If pacifistas are apart of or the main part of Sengoku's plan they are the trump card.
Just because the shichi don't know about his plan doesn't mean Sengoku's planning on wiping them out and replacing them with pacifistas. They don't know because they don't need to. There's no reason to trust them. They're suppose to follow orders and just fight. Why would you inform them of this plan after BB went awol and Jimbei defected(or wasn't gonna show up since last place they knew he was was ID?) Sengoku's smart, he knows this trump card has to be used at the right time and right way. That's why he didn't just spring them once WB showed up with the other NW crews. They might only give him the slight advantage in this war.
Just for the sake of argument there's always the chance they do know Sengoku's plan and were informed when they all gathered and ate together and Sengoku simply doesn't need to tell them anything during the war since they already know their roles.
We know Kuma won't be surprised and I got a feeling Doflamingo won't flinch at it or Mihawk.
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@Zik:
There's no way 7 Kumas can effectively replace the shichibukai. I don't really feel like explaining the reasons why the shichi were formed and everything their position entails.
I'll basically say that as powerful as the pacifista are or the completed ones will be they're not a replacement. That doesn't make sense. The shichi currently are playing their roles in this war. If pacifistas are apart of or the main part of Sengoku's plan they are the trump card.
Just because the shichi don't know about his plan doesn't mean Sengoku's planning on wiping them out and replacing them with pacifistas. They don't know because they don't need to. There's no reason to trust them. They're suppose to follow orders and just fight. Why would you inform them of this plan after BB went awol and Jimbei defected(or wasn't gonna show up since last place they knew he was was ID?) Sengoku's smart, he knows this trump card has to be used at the right time and right way. That's why he didn't just spring them once WB showed up with the other NW crews. They might only give him the slight advantage in this war.
Just for the sake of argument there's always the chance they do know Sengoku's plan and were informed when they all gathered and ate together and Sengoku simply doesn't need to tell them anything during the war since they already know their roles.
We know Kuma won't be surprised and I got a feeling Doflamingo won't flinch at it or Mihawk.
I know how the Shichibukai role works but none of us can say how things may operate in the new era, now while I thought that the Shichibukai could've found out at dinner that wouldn't explain why the marines on the battlefield would have to be informed the way they were yet the Shichibukai don't considering that the commanders in the marines of all people should be aware beforehand. And although I'm not keen on this theory I just felt like throwing it out there and the distrust you mention is the exact reason I wouldn't be surprised if they've been deemed expendable, because if they're already revealing they're shadiness against WB then why trust them against any other Yonkou? So Sengoku could be planning on getting as much out of them as possible and try to wipe them out with WB.
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I know how the Shichibukai role works but none of us can say how things may operate in the new era, now while I thought that the Shichibukai could've found out at dinner that wouldn't explain why the marines on the battlefield would have to be informed the way they were yet the Shichibukai don't considering that the commanders in the marines of all people should be aware beforehand. And although I'm not keen on this theory I just felt like throwing it out there and the distrust you mention is the exact reason I wouldn't be surprised if they've been deemed expendable, because if they're already revealing they're shadiness against WB then why trust them against any other Yonkou? So Sengoku could be planning on getting as much out of them as possible and try to wipe them out with WB.
What do you mean? It's a plan to get rid of the world strongest man, a yonkou, his crew, and the son of the pirate king. It's strictly a need to know basis.
Also the marines are NOT being informed of the plan in the middle of the war. They are receiving their orders that the plan is now being executed. So again, either the shichi already know and don't need to be notified of it being executed or they don't know because they're not involved. Seeing as this involves strategical placement of both sides, and other war tactics I could see why they wouldn't need to know since they are not commanding a group but are individuals handling the big names on WB's crew and fodder NW pirates.
Just cuz there's distrust doesn't mean they're expendable unless they already have a back up shichibukai chosen or they have a new weapon that makes them obsolete.
Even if WB dies cuz of this plan and his crew wiped out it does not make the shichibukai any less important that might occur some time around when they're only 2 yonkou left cuz there's still Dragon to worry about.
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@Zik:
What do you mean? It's a plan to get rid of the world strongest man, a yonkou, his crew, and the son of the pirate king. It's strictly a need to know basis.
Also the marines are NOT being informed of the plan in the middle of the war. They are receiving their orders that the plan is now being executed. So again, either the shichi already know and don't need to be notified of it being executed or they don't know because they're not involved. Seeing as this involves strategical placement of both sides, and other war tactics I could see why they wouldn't need to know since they are not commanding a group but are individuals handling the big names on WB's crew and fodder NW pirates.
Just cuz there's distrust doesn't mean they're expendable unless they already have a back up shichibukai chosen or they have a new weapon that makes them obsolete.
Even if WB dies cuz of this plan and his crew wiped out it does not make the shichibukai any less important that might occur some time around when they're only 2 yonkou left cuz there's still Dragon to worry about.
And I wouldn't be surprised if there is a backup plan to replace the Shichi because if they aren't being told to move or aren't going to be told eventually they stand a pretty good chance of being caught in Sengoku's plan since they are in close proximity to WB's forces, hell even the fodder marines may atleast be ordered to move in a position to not be caught in the trap but would anyone warn the Shichibukai?
