well, he gave hints to be more exact but we can still not be sure that it is wind. . .
sill want to know how dragons can control the weater according to snowflake
Theories That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread
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well, he gave hints to be more exact but we can still not be sure that it is wind. . .
sill want to know how dragons can control the weater according to snowflakeUnlike western dragons that breath fire, eastern ones are quite different and have been believed to have control over weather. Specifically they have control over storms, floods and other natural disasters pertaining to water (at the very least Chinese dragons, not so sure about other places though it should be similar.) Google or wiki it or something. You should be able to get more precise information.
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well, he gave hints to be more exact but we can still not be sure that it is wind. . .
sill want to know how dragons can control the weater according to snowflakeHere ya go.
@Wiki's:An alternative view, advocated by He Xin, is that the early dragon depicted a species of crocodile. Specifically, Crocodylus porosus, which is the largest living reptile. The crocodile is known to be able to accurately sense changes in air pressure, and be able to sense coming rain. This may have been the origin of the dragon's mythical attributes in controlling the weather, especially the rain. The association with the crocodile is also supported by the view in ancient times that large crocodiles are a variety of dragon. For example, in the Story of Zhou Chu, about the life of a Jin Dynasty warrior, he is said to have killed a "dragon" that infested the waters of his home village, which appears to have been a crocodile.
@Pathetic:
Shenlong (traditional Chinese: 神龍; simplified Chinese: 神龙; pinyin: shén lóng, literally "spirit dragon", Japanese: 神竜 Shinryū) is a spiritual dragon from Chinese mythology that controls wind and rain.
These giants floated across the sky and due to their blue color that changed constantly[[I]citation needed] were difficult to see clearly. Shenlong governed the wind, clouds and rain on which all agrarian life depended. Chinese people took great care to avoid offending them, for if they grew angry or felt neglected, the result was bad weather, drought, flood or thunderstorms.@Wiki's:
The four Dragon Kings (龍王; pinyin: Lóng Wáng) are, in Chinese mythology, the divine rulers of the four seas (each sea corresponds to one of the cardinal directions). Although Dragon Kings appear in their true forms as dragons, they have the ability to shapeshift into human form. The Dragon Kings live in crystal palaces, guarded by shrimp soldiers and crab generals.
Besides ruling over the aquatic life, the Dragon Kings also manipulate clouds and rain. When enraged, they can flood cities. According to The Short Stories on the Tang People (唐人傳奇 Tangren Chuanqi), the Qian Tang Dragon King did just that when he found out his niece had been abused by her husband. Qian Tang also ate the abusive husband. -
I think that Zoro will die before the conclusion of the manga, after the victory against Mihawk. This because of the injury that Kuma inflicted to him back in Thriller Bark, which will slowly get worse and worse with future duels that he will have to fight. Before that, Chopper will find some kind of remedy to keep the swordman alive, maybe keeping Zoro's condition secret to all the other Strawhats (except Sanji and Robin, of course) who will know nothing untill the sad moment comes. Mihawk will then quit being the awesome swordman he is and Zoro will become the undefeated legend whose name has reached even heaven. Tashigi an Kuina's ghost or whatever will play some kind of role in all this.
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when things are getting even more intense in the war, blackbeard is going to make an entrance. everyone is gonna be like "WHERE da F Were u BLACKbeARD?!"
and he won't say anything, he'll just engage whitebeard in battle, and land a blow on him. everyone's draw will drop. luffy will enter mainstage, support whitebeard, and i'm stuck between him helping ace, or being mad and beating up teach.
lol flames begin!
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Sentomaru will join the war at Marinford and him and the 3 Admirals will beat Whitebeard and his crew. This is based off the story Momotaro that I was just told about.
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when things are getting even more intense in the war, blackbeard is going to make an entrance. everyone is gonna be like "WHERE da F Were u BLACKbeARD?!"
and he won't say anything, he'll just engage whitebeard in battle, and land a blow on him. everyone's draw will drop. luffy will enter mainstage, support whitebeard, and i'm stuck between him helping ace, or being mad and beating up teach.
lol flames begin!
How will BB get ahead of Luffy?
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Haki of course .
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Dur his fruit lets him make wormholes XP.
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I get the feeling that Vegapunk will appear to be a really young guy.
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I get the feeling that Vegapunk will appear to be a really young guy.
Yeah, I think that as well. Sentomaru could the person who supervises him so that he doesn't make any troublesome thing.
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I've got an even weirder feeling that Vegapunk is the next nakama…
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I've got an even weirder feeling that Vegapunk is the next nakama…
Lol, that's what i was about to say, that guy should Definitively Become the next Nakama, i think that he was Forced to Work with The marines, and then he left his home, and now Sentomaru is Watching him so that he won't Run away.
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Lol, that's what i was about to say, that guy should Definitively Become the next Nakama, i think that he was Forced to Work with The marines, and then he left his home, and now Sentomaru is Watching him so that he won't Run away.
But wouldn't that invalidate Chopper's reason for being in the crew?
And also Ussop and Franky cos they both make things?
I see him more being a honorary member, like bebe/vivi…
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Sorry if i am in the wrong thread or this has already been mentioned.
I was always wondering about Kuma's ability that sends his opponents flying to different locations. When he used this on Zoro he said "if you were to go on a trip, where would you like to go" so i thought this might be actually true (either by their thoughts or subconsiously).
Luffy: He is seen as a pure person (or innocent), so he fits well to an island with innocent women.
Chopper: He was sent to an island where animals rule. He was hunted in the past by humans because he was different.
Nami: She always have to think about the weather when the crew travels.
Usopp: An island with nothing but plants would seem ideal, who would be afraid of plants? Plants are harmless, unless they are man-eating!
Sanji: He always thinks about girls, girls are associated with pink, so he was sent to a pink island.
Zoro and Brook: Still havent figured a reason, zoro mybe because an empty castle would be as calm as he is at times. And brook always wanted to be seen as Satan sama lol?Or is Kuma's ability totaly controlled by him instead of his victims?
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I think that Lafitte ate the legendary Unicorn zoan !
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Zoro and Brook: Still havent figured a reason, zoro mybe because an empty castle would be as calm as he is at times. And brook always wanted to be seen as Satan sama lol?
of course zoro always wanted to bang perona;-) and brook always wanted some girl to show him her panties and in that island all his perverted requests can be finally granted.
on a serious note, according to sentoumaru not even kuma knows the shs whereabouts but, quoting himself, he could have just lied in that occasion -
But wouldn't that invalidate Chopper's reason for being in the crew?
And also Ussop and Franky cos they both make things?
I see him more being a honorary member, like bebe/vivi…
Only thing stopping this theory so far. :getlost:
But it could be revealed that he has some secret talent that's useful to the Strawhats that's been suppressed by the WG all this time.
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But wouldn't that invalidate Chopper's reason for being in the crew?
And also Ussop and Franky cos they both make things?
I see him more being a honorary member, like bebe/vivi…
There are some Domains Usoop, franky and Chopper Can't Work on, and its possible that he would be an Honorary member, a Chance to improve Chopper's 3rd Rumbal ball, and usopp weapons, and Sunny'Go, he may give them some rare Devil Fruit, cause i believe Usopp will eat one since he is weak physically which disable him form Saving his DF user nakama when they fall on the sea, and with this DF, it have to be a logia, cause no one is logia in the SH pirates, and a powerfull one that improve his weapons.
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There are some Domains Usoop, franky and Chopper Can't Work on, and its possible that he would be an Honorary member, a Chance to improve Chopper's 3rd Rumbal ball, and usopp weapons, and Sunny'Go, he may give them some rare Devil Fruit, cause i believe Usopp will eat one since he is weak physically which disable him form Saving his DF user nakama when they fall on the sea, and with this DF, it have to be a logia, cause no one is logia in the SH pirates, and a powerfull one that improve his weapons.
Good gravy no! Usopp Logia!? That would be such a dissapointment to fans who wait and watch to see Usopp grow into a great warrior. Oda keeps Usopp the most human of all the Straw Hats! He has no super ultra physical fighting skills and has no inhuman sense for nature. He will never get a fruit in his body, that is a given, just like the crew won't fly like super man, and there will be no true love stories.
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Good gravy no! Usopp Logia!? That would be such a dissapointment to fans who wait and watch to see Usopp grow into a great warrior. Oda keeps Usopp the most human of all the Straw Hats! He has no super ultra physical fighting skills and has no inhuman sense for nature. He will never get a fruit in his body, that is a given, just like the crew won't fly like super man, and there will be no true love stories.
Usopp is imba already, shooting stuff from over 9000 feet distance with whatever you have available is not an easy thing to do. Oh and dont forget "Usopp aaaaaaaaaa"
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Usopp: An island with nothing but plants would seem ideal, who would be afraid of plants? Plants are harmless, unless they are man-eating!
im sorry but if you recall Usopp hates mushrooms… he is on that island to get over his slight fear of them!
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im sorry but if you recall Usopp hates mushrooms… he is on that island to get over his slight fear of them!
where is it stated?
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I don't have a lot of evidence to support this theory… in fact, you could argue I have none at all. But I have this strange feeling that Kuma is actually a spy for Dragon.
I won't say much about him helping the strawhats, or that he recognized Dragon & Luffy's connection in Thriller Bark other than they both happened. But someone with the title of "The Tyrant" wouldn't be expected to be so loyal a shichibukai; I think vegapunk might hold some kind of self destruct button that works on Kuma and that's why he stays so loyal. And if not, back to the spy thing, act totally loyal and you can win the trust of others.
I felt like posting it because it's a silly theory of mine, but a few of my friends say they wouldn't be surprised if that's how it was.
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The Kuma as revolutionary theory has been around for a while…
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The Kuma as revolutionary theory has been around for a while…
Now you need to stop bashing the Kuma fanboy, contribute something useful tot his thread why don't you!
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@Fiasco.:
Now you need to stop bashing the Kuma fanboy, contribute something useful tot his thread why don't you!
Fiasco you have been setting the example for productive discussion since the Unicorns began appearing in the forums.
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But wouldn't that invalidate Chopper's reason for being in the crew?
…Why? Chopper is a medical doctor, Vegapunk is a scientist.
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Zoro?
I think the first reason he was sent there was to cure his injuries, He was almost dead, so the thing he needed most was time to recover. And I don't think it was coincidental he was sent to Perona. He already is a hell of a swordsman. To be even stronger, he needs to focus more on his mind. Asura-Moves are already more or less a head-thing, and see how far further it got him. So if he will learn to withstand Perona's Negativ-Ghosts, it'll surely help him… -
…Why? Chopper is a medical doctor, Vegapunk is a scientist.
But the question is, why would he even betray the WG? Has he not been working on experiments to benefit them?
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But the question is, why would he even betray the WG? Has he not been working on experiments to benefit them?
The thought process behind the theory is that he's being forced to do that.
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The Kuma as revolutionary theory has been around for a while…
Well, it's nice to know I'm not the only one who thinks that. I guess the only sign that could either support the theory anytime soon would be if him and Ivankov had some kind of unique dialog.
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I don't have a lot of evidence to support this theory… in fact, you could argue I have none at all. But I have this strange feeling that Kuma is actually a spy for Dragon.
I won't say much about him helping the strawhats, or that he recognized Dragon & Luffy's connection in Thriller Bark other than they both happened. But someone with the title of "The Tyrant" wouldn't be expected to be so loyal a shichibukai; I think vegapunk might hold some kind of self destruct button that works on Kuma and that's why he stays so loyal. And if not, back to the spy thing, act totally loyal and you can win the trust of others.
I felt like posting it because it's a silly theory of mine, but a few of my friends say they wouldn't be surprised if that's how it was.
like someone already said ,that's a very popular theory shared by many people here (i also agree with this theory but i just read it somewhere ); there are other 2 facts backing up this theory:
1- the dialogue between kuma and rayleigh (hinting that someone asked kuma to help the shs although it could also be garp's doing)
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Zoro?
I think the first reason he was sent there was to cure his injuries, He was almost dead, so the thing he needed most was time to recover. And I don't think it was coincidental he was sent to Perona. He already is a hell of a swordsman. To be even stronger, he needs to focus more on his mind. Asura-Moves are already more or less a head-thing, and see how far further it got him. So if he will learn to withstand Perona's Negativ-Ghosts, it'll surely help him…oh nice, it sound so Realistic, It may be the real reason he was sent there.
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Okay this is kind of a theory and question. It's really obvious before the end zoro is going to beat mihawk, a shickibukai. Thing is, throughout the whole series, while zoro has been marginally(and i mean marginally) stronger than sanji they have always been on the same 'level' of strength if you know what i mean, when one gets stronger so does the other. So my therory is before the end sanji will also beat a shickibukai or someone who is regarded as being equal to one. My guess at this point would be doflamingo because thier fighting styles seem a bit similar. Anyone have any thoughts on this?
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The fact that Silvers stood up to an admiral makes me believe Sanji and Zoro will both be well into admiral and warlord level, and will take out at least one each, maybe one from both groups.
I just can't see Luffy beating all the admirals himself(if they even get the chance) but also because Sanji did say the Marines would fear him most. What better way to be feared by the navi than by taking out an admiral? And what better admiral for Sanji to beat up then the hi kicking Kizaru?
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Okay this is kind of a theory and question. It's really obvious before the end zoro is going to beat mihawk, a shickibukai. Thing is, throughout the whole series, while zoro has been marginally(and i mean marginally) stronger than sanji they have always been on the same 'level' of strength if you know what i mean, when one gets stronger so does the other. So my therory is before the end sanji will also beat a shickibukai or someone who is regarded as being equal to one. My guess at this point would be doflamingo because thier fighting styles seem a bit similar. Anyone have any thoughts on this?
Zoro will always be Stronger than Sanji, cause Zoro is the SH's Swordsman, he is only there for Fighting, While Sanji is the Cook and a Fighter for SH, he should not be as strong as Sanji while being able to cook, you see what i mean.
And for Sanji defeating Doflmingo, its impossible, i mean You chose the Worst one, Doflamingo will have a Special Saga and a long one in the managa, he is hell strong and Luffu should be teh one fighting him cause their idea Clashes , One beleive in dreams and the other not, New Age Vs New Era.
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Zoro will always be Stronger than Sanji, cause Zoro is the SH's Swordsman, he is only there for Fighting, While Sanji is the Cook and a Fighter for SH, he should not be as strong as Sanji while being able to cook, you see what i mean.
And for Sanji defeating Doflmingo, its impossible, i mean You chose the Worst one, Doflamingo will have a Special Saga and a long one in the managa, he is hell strong and Luffu should be teh one fighting him cause their idea Clashes , One beleive in dreams and the other not, New Age Vs New Era.
Zoro will always only be a hair stronger than Sanji, and that amount of extra "power" means nothing. They are pretty much equal and everyone knows it. And who knows Oda could really pull something over our heads and have Luffy NOT fight the main bad guy for what ever reason. It is bound to happen sooner or later.
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like someone already said ,that's a very popular theory shared by many people here (i also agree with this theory but i just read it somewhere ); there are other 2 facts backing up this theory:
1- the dialogue between kuma and rayleigh (hinting that someone asked kuma to help the shs although it could also be garp's doing)
2-other subordinates of dragon have animal ears attached to their hats/capshmm… i didn't catch that second one actually. Very true
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like someone already said ,that's a very popular theory shared by many people here (i also agree with this theory but i just read it somewhere ); there are other 2 facts backing up this theory:
1- the dialogue between kuma and rayleigh (hinting that someone asked kuma to help the shs although it could also be garp's doing)
2-other subordinates of dragon have animal ears attached to their hats/capsHooooly sheet, I think Garp might ALSO be siding with the Revolutionaries! It makes sense for a true-blue Marine who hates Apsolute Justice to be against the World Government while also sticking with the Marines! Just look at how simular Garp and Kuma's actions are!
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Hooooly sheet, I think Garp might ALSO be siding with the Revolutionaries! It makes sense for a true-blue Marine who hates Apsolute Justice to be against the World Government while also sticking with the Marines! Just look at how simular Garp and Kuma's actions are!
Garp is very unpredictable though; he seems to be out for himself or what he feels is right most the time. While loyal to the marines, he's stretched the rules a few times (Kept Ace a secret and raised him, let Koby & Hellempo get away with being friends of a pirate, didn't capture Luffy even though he could have, etc).
Neither side plays by the rules all the time :P
… and no, I'm not suggesting he's affiliated with anyone other than the marines or has intentions of betraying them...
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I think that WB together with Crocodile can have a great destructive power…imagine Crocodile turning the ground into dust and WB causing earthquakes.
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Do you think that complete mastery of haki enables one to communicate with anything? Gol D Roger was said to have that power and considering how badly the world government doesn't want anyone to read the poneglyphs, it could be why they really want to kill ace as well. Since that power would help one to become pirate king and could make that history known.
Gol D Roger couldn't read the poneglyphs but did understand it and could write in the language. Haki is energy and knowledge of that energy can allow one to put their own energy into swords, arrows and snakes. Mastery of higher levels of haki might give birth to supernatural strength and powers such as mantra.
If the forgotten country had mastery over haki, and advanced technology, they could easily build indestructible stones with messages as well as ancient weapons and even, yes devil fruits. The reason i believe they had a hand in all of these is because they are all things that are not commonly known about in the One Piece world. Robin knows almost everything but doesn't know about haki? The World Government does not have power in the new world and that's where we first saw haki being commonly used. To Amazon Lily, haki is common knowledge.
Vegapunk is said to have intellect 500 years ahead of his time but if that ancient kingdom was more advanced he probably just has knowledge from that time.
900 years ago, if that country was asked to join an alliance of countries to form a world government for the good of all people by putting power in the hands of a few, they probably said, F*** that. The alliance felt threatened by their power and decided to destroy them. That country, instead of fighting back and starting a war which would lose many lives decided on doing something drastic to avoid war but still wanted to keep their ideals alive, hence the poneglyphs. i think they did something drastic because the technology in One Piece is drastically different depending what island you are on, so a lot of the ancient technology must have been lost save a few things here and their. Also compared to the rest of the world, the grand line and the new world are really messed up. Maybe a huge weapon went off scattering the kingdom and its relics also creating the grand line.
Everything above is educated guess from what has been verified in the story. Everything below is a wild (really wild) guess.
I believe that the world government is not evil. When Clover was shot, if the name of the kingdom was Haki, the gorousei didn't want anyone to hear it because they may look into it and discover tons about haki regardless if they are marines or not. I haven't heard any marine yet mention haki. Rayleigh said he is not using his power anymore because it would be bad and bring attention to himself. Also sentoumaru has the worlds toughest defense but is very loosed lipped. He is the only marine to confirm he is indeed doing something that is not a devil fruit. Considering his personality he should have said what he was doing. The fact that he even mentioned it could mean it's a secret. Also he is Vegapunks bodyguard so the fact that he would know all about it is obvious.
Haki is extremely dangerous. If Sentoumaru can easily stop Luffy without his weapon, I mean 2 Shichibukai defeating, Enies Lobby and Lucci destroying Luffy, haki is important. Also of all the shichibukai, Hancock has a generally weak devil fruit. I mean what serious individual besides sanji is gonna get affected by it. Yet she hold the grand title of shichibukai. It must be because of her haki. I mean she didnt seem to even care when her powers didnt work on the vice admiral or luffy during combat. Yes she was surprised but her attitude was that of someone who didn't need to worry at all. I guess it is cause of the haki.
It makes people stronger and they can develop abilities like Rogers perhaps and communicate with all things thereby learning of the void history. I'm sure a country full of people who can use haki that knows about the past would not be willing to join the world government.
The government in One Piece resembles others. It is all about controlling the masses. If you oppose the law in anyway regardless of moral compass, you are the bad guy. If you smoke marijuana you can go to jail and potentially ruin your life. that's kinda stupid given that alcohol is legal yet has much more serious consequences when abused. But it's not stupid to the people who make a huge profit off of it remaining illegal. So smoking marijuana would make you, well something of a pirate. If a cop pushed you for no reason and you slugged him, you would get your ass beat and possibly go to jail.
While the government structure does protect the masses, it also takes advantage of them. I believe that the ideals of the unknown country was opposite to this. They may have believed that possible chaos is acceptable as long as people are free to do whatever they want. If that is the case, it could be why Don Flamingo is so hyped about the new era. I know Teach would love to see a chaotic world. i can't imagine him or his crew enjoying anything else more. I remember Rayleigh said that the Strawhats might come to a different answer than they did. If i was shanks and i thought this kid might be able to do it and come up with an interesting answer, I would also let some damn monster eat my arm. All for the sake of an era.
The only thing I am really lost about is if the name of the kingdom began with the letter D, and all the D's in One Piece are related and descendants of that kingdom, why hasnt the World Government put a hit out on them from the start? Could it be that the D's themselves are not related to the country but maybe they inherited the Will of the D? Robin and Rayleigh both know about the Will of the D. Possibly from reading the poneglyphs and maybe the world government doesn't even know about it, otherwise I'm sure they would have actively pursued all D's ages ago.
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Zoro will always be Stronger than Sanji, cause Zoro is the SH's Swordsman, he is only there for Fighting, While Sanji is the Cook and a Fighter for SH, he should not be as strong as Sanji while being able to cook, you see what i mean.
And for Sanji defeating Doflmingo, its impossible, i mean You chose the Worst one, Doflamingo will have a Special Saga and a long one in the managa, he is hell strong and Luffu should be teh one fighting him cause their idea Clashes , One beleive in dreams and the other not, New Age Vs New Era.
Its like saying warlocks in wow should be weaker than any other class because they can self-heal, which doesn't happen though :blink:
Lets just see who survives the war with Whitebeard and we decide who will fight who afterwards. The only sure opponent for Zoro and Sanji are Killer and that polar bear
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@ captain simple - I came to that conclusion myself, but the will of D is still a mystery. The best conclusion I got was they are the true desendants of that country and are deserving of haki opposed to the celestrial dragons.
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Whitebeard is a great pirate, he should be carrying the Will of D too.
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I've always taken it that people with D have a pre-etermined destiny.
Saul to save robin.
Roger to become the pirate king.
Luffy to become the next pirate king
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If it's true that each Devil Friut contains a spirit entity, I think there may be a relationship between haki (ambition) and where Devil Fruits come from.
This might also explain why some people using ambition may be able to injure, or make contact with certain Devil fruit users.
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Crocodile will free the Rookies in Shabaody and will form a new Crew after he kills WB.
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I think that WB together with Crocodile can have a great destructive power…imagine Crocodile turning the ground into dust and WB causing earthquakes.
What's stopping WB from creating the earthquake without Crocodile's help? The moist?