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    How does Sanji's new move work?

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      I hate thinking too far into things, but my REAL internal martial arts experience, plus knowing how a typical anime works, give me questions. His new move causes him to heat up his leg and give him great power, but how?

      To me, it seems like a from of chi/chakra. If you notice, Sanji kept nlocking with his right leg through the whole fight. Highly skilled internal arts practitioners can attack with and absorb chi. The CP9 techniques seem to revolve around, and would be parallel to the Chineese internal arts in reality. The tekkai, speed, and energy kicks are like fantasy exaggerations of martial arts abilities. Assuming Sanji knew his own style of chi mastery in a similar fassion to how zorro uses his swords and his powerful chi/aura in some techniques, I propose the following.

      Sanji Was absorbing the Jabuya's blows with his right leg throughout the fight. At the end when he displayed his new move, he focused his chi/chakra to his leg in a form that would heat up his leg and give off an aura. (Could this be red foot the pirate's technique?). The spinning Sanji did allowed him to quickly channel and focus more chi/chakra/energy into his leg. His kick wwas effective against Jabuyas tekkai because

      1. Tekkai is a chi based defensive technique, and Sanji's new move was a chi based offensive techinique that could break through his tekkai.

      2. The heat Sanji produced with his chi/chakra greatly increased the effectiveness because the temperature would break through their tekkai focus, and the large amount of hot chi simply made for a very powerful, penetrating attack. Jabuyas even said he felt hot inside his body, which in any sort of world similar to the physical, would have to be because sanji's kick released a lot of chi/energy upon contact, that you would indeed feel right down to the bone because (in reality, on a realistic level) attacks that project large amounts of shi like that cause great damage inside the opponent's body. Normal heat wouldn't do that.

      So anyway, that's my belief on how his attack works, from the perspective of someone who has spent years practicing energy work and martial arts, of various origins (which is why I don't stick much to one deffinition of "energy"). Rest assured, I will never think this deeply into a cartoon ever again 😊 .

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        It's nothing much to think about. It's just Sanji spinning so much that his leg heats up, but exaggerated.

        Kinda like when you rub your hands back and forth. Notice how they get warmer? Yup. Just the friction.

        Everything was all for nothing

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          They wat I figure it, he saw Wanze light his skates on fire, and pulled that off, figuring that even if your skin is as hard as steel, it's still skin, and will burn. I figured that he absorbed the attacks because Jyabura's subconscious kicked in when he tried to attack his leg saying "It's hot dumbass! Don't touch it!" so he couldn't attack at full force. This is a manga we're talking about though, so, it's prolly more complex than that… Oh well. 😕

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            There's really nothing too it, Sanji spins at high speeds fast enough to cause friction witch sets his leg on fire.

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                sanji spins very fast, causes friction with the air around him so fast that his leg gets heated, ending in O LAWD FIAR LEGZ

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                  Why doesn't his trousers or shoe catch fire though?

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                    @ascalon:

                    my REAL internal martial arts experience

                    Okay.

                    For the sake of post characters though, I'll tell you that his name is Jabura.

                    Originally Posted by Battle Franky

                    Bad move, bub!

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                      Why doesn't his trousers or shoe catch fire though?

                      To quote Oda: "His LEG is hot?! No, it's not hot!! SANJI'S HEART WAS BURNING SO MUCH HOTTER!!!"

                      Oh, that Oda. 😆

                      Seriously though, I thought that it was pretty straight forward as well. Sanji spins really fast, Sanji's spinning creates enough friction to heat his leg, Sanji's leg goes fwoosh with the super hotness. I never bothered to think any further into it.

                      To Buccaneer - yeah, my thoughts exactly.

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                        Still…Even for OP I thought this move was a little too out there.
                        It can burn Jabura like hell, but Sanji doesn't seem feel the heat very much all, which is even the source of it; and the thing about the shoes and clothes not catching on fire. -_-

                        Oh, well. Oda physics.

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                          I dont like how they animated it. There should have been some screeching and stopping on one leg to show this friction at work.

                          In fact, I was quite dissatisfied by that episode altogether. Finisher was nice, but I felt it was rushed and I didnt like the animation(heads seemed smaller than their bodies.)

                          But yea, its friction, but like with devil fruits, his clothes arent affected by the scorching heat(neither is his leg)
                          One of the reasons I didnt like it at first.

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                            But yea, its friction, but like with devil fruits, his clothes arent affected by the scorching heat(neither is his leg) One of the reasons I didnt like it at first.

                            When I first read it, I had the same reaction. Not the not liking it part, but the "how the hell does that work…?!" part. But then I realised something; if I could accept that Sanji could move fast enough to even create that kind of heat, then it wasn't much more to accept that he and his togs are immune to said heat. Sure it makes no sense in the real world, but as far as I'm concerned real world physics just don't apply. Like Fleur said, it's all Oda Physics.

                            From a real world perspective the physics of One Piece are insane and yes, even a little stupid. It's all pretty ridiculous, really, so you just have to accept it…or not. As for me, I'm content with wondering for a little while before chalking it up to Oda just being super mega crazy (in a totally good way) and suspending my disbelief so that I can just enjoy it all for what it is. Thinking too deeply about it and trying to apply real world physics to the kind of craziness One Piece indulges in seems kind of pointless to me, really, all things considering.

                            ~ jj ~

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                              @jinjue:

                              When I first read it, I had the same reaction. Not the not liking it part, but the "how the hell does that work…?!" part. But then I realised something; if I could accept that Sanji could move fast enough to even create that kind of heat, then it wasn't much more to accept that he and his togs are immune to said heat. Sure it makes no sense in the real world, but as far as I'm concerned real world physics just don't apply. Like Fleur said, it's all Oda Physics.

                              From a real world perspective the physics of One Piece are insane and yes, even a little stupid. It's all pretty ridiculous, really, so you just have to accept it…or not. As for me, I'm content with wondering for a little while before chalking it up to Oda just being super mega crazy (in a totally good way) and suspending my disbelief so that I can just enjoy it all for what it is. Thinking too deeply about it and trying to apply real world physics to the kind of craziness One Piece indulges in seems kind of pointless to me, really, all things considering.

                              ~ jj ~

                              I always thought one piece stayed tru to physics more than other shounen series out.(Alot of luffy's attacks, while they would require a superhuman amount of force, stay true to real life physics for the most part.)

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                                Maybe some SBS will explain this later on?

                                As for the Sanji not burning part, maybe the fabric on his clothes for some reason is fire retardant (there are such things) and doesn't burn. That's the only logical way I see it.

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                                  This is why Sanji's clothes aren't getting burned.

                                  Rule #34- Law of Probable Attire- Clothing in anime follows certain predictable
                                  guidelines: Female characters wear as little clothing as possible, regardless of
                                  whether it is socially or meteorologically appropriate. Any female with an excessive
                                  amount of clothing will invariably have her clothes ripped to shreds or torn off
                                  somehow. If there is no opportunity to tear off aforementioned female’s clothes,
                                  then she will inexplicably take a shower for no apparent reason (also known as the
                                  Gratuitous Shower Scene). Whenever there is a headwind, Male characters invariably
                                  wear long cloaks that don’t hamper movement and billow out dramatically behind them.
                                  First Corollary (Cryo-Adaptability)- All anime characters are resistant to
                                  extremely cold temperatures, and do not need to wear heavy or warm clothing in snow.
                                  Second Corollary (Indecent Invulnerability)- Bikinis render the wearer
                                  invulnerable to any form of damage.
                                  *Third Corollary (Probable Attire permanence)- The clothing on the hero is
                                  indestructible. Their capes, robes, (and if they are girls,) skirts, dresses, bows,
                                  or any loose clothing will just flap when they are in the middle of a fire or ice
                                  attack… Unless it's a hentai. It is believed that the clothes are made out of
                                  Anime Character hair. (re. Laws 32 & 48)

                                  this has been brought to you by the 100 rules of anime
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                                    I see where you are going. It is rumored that Chi is real and can produce heat if used correctly. This was tested by a monk who performed a single punch in a controlled tempature room, only to raise the room tempature slightly. Though this required some sort of Tai Chi, which I don't believe Sanji has done before Diable Jambe.

                                    Though common sense does say Friction caused the heat which is probably true. Could also be that cliche anime thing too or even both, I doubt Sanji used Chi but it is still a possibility.

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                                      i take boxing… i don't know if that qualifies me as an expert but him spinning like that...regardless of how fast.....(it has to be extremly fast for it to heat like that) seems silly.... i would get dizzy.... and get knocked out...ehhehe

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                                        You are asking why Sanji's leg didn't get burned???

                                        Well, I don't know and I don't care either, cause this is a manga and more than half is not logical…

                                        Did you every ask you why Ace clothes aren't burned when he transform or why Choppers hat becomes bigger when he transforms into monster-point...???

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                                          @KiShiDo:

                                          You are asking why Sanji's leg didn't get burned???

                                          Well, I don't know and I don't care either, cause this is a manga and more than half is not logical…

                                          Did you every ask you why Ace clothes aren't burned when he transform or why Choppers hat becomes bigger when he transforms into monster-point...???

                                          I AAAALWAYS ask that :p.

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                                            @KiShiDo:

                                            Did you every ask you why Ace clothes aren't burned when he transform or why Choppers hat becomes bigger when he transforms into monster-point…???

                                            I asked the same question about Ace and somone responded that it had to do with the devil fruit or something like that. It's just like Crocodile turning his clothes into sand and Enel making his clothes electric.

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                                              It's just because everyone would complain if they would "lose" their clothes and stay naked.
                                              1111+!ODA DOES TOO MUCH FANSERVICE +1111!!!

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                                                Maybe some SBS will explain this later on?

                                                It was already asked and answered in an SBS. I posted Oda's response in my first post to the thread.

                                                Did you every ask you why Ace clothes aren't burned when he transform or why Choppers hat becomes bigger when he transforms into monster-point…???

                                                It's because Chopper goes to the same tailor that the Hulk goes to. You know, the one that specialises in indestructable purple pants. -snerk-

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                                                  Cr4zy you have an amazing signature… Why I can't do such things...? =(

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                                                    manga physics bollocks nuff said

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                                                      @tony-kun:

                                                      I always thought one piece stayed tru to physics more than other shounen series out.(Alot of luffy's attacks, while they would require a superhuman amount of force, stay true to real life physics for the most part.)

                                                      Ehh..whats true to physics in OP…nothing,and thats a good thing..right?:wub:

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                                                        Physics schmisics i guess, lol.

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                                                          I remember thinking when this happened in the manga, that it was the lamest fo the sorta "upgrades"
                                                          I just didn't like the idea and I personaly felt Sanji could handle Jabura on his own. I mean he was doing fine, there was no reason to go flashy.

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                                                            I felt he had more reason to use it in the anime then in the manga. In the manga he just started spining in one panel. In the anime he basically does Diable Jambe because Jyabura pissed him the hell off, and Sanji decided to teach him a lesson in being cocky.

                                                            I still love the move though, its one of my favorites in the series.

                                                            EDIT: after rereading the manga Sanji basically spends the whole fight saying his kicks arent working too well. woops. he had plenty of reason for it after all. I still stand by saying the Anime made it more of an epic technique though.

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                                                              I'm sorry for this one… but I don't want to start a new topic...

                                                              Could someone tell me in which chapter/episode Sanji says to Chopper... A mans duty is to forgive a womans lie? Thank you in advance and sorry for going off topic

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                                                                  I'm sorry for this one… but I don't want to start a new topic...

                                                                  Could someone tell me in which chapter/episode Sanji says to Chopper... A mans duty is to forgive a womans lie? Thank you in advance and sorry for going off topic

                                                                  chap 359, at the end

                                                                  and could someone please tell me in which chapter sanji used that move?thanks in advance!!😁

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                                                                    @Faaip:

                                                                    It's just because everyone would complain if they would "lose" their clothes and stay naked.
                                                                    1111+!ODA DOES TOO MUCH FANSERVICE +1111!!!

                                                                    My explanation has always been that devil fruits affect clothing as well. Its mainly a censoring thing tho.(I mean logia fruits wouldnt be nearly as cool if they were naked after using them. XP.) itd be a just a lil bit gay.

                                                                    This doesnt explain why sanji's fire leg didnt burn his leg up a bit(THat kinda power should have a down side) or at least burn trhough his pantleg and shoe.)

                                                                    I mean your asking about CHopper's hat now, and not his alabasta clothes way back then?

                                                                    So yea, iI wasnt the biggest fan of this or Zoro's. Moreso Zoro's fight.

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                                                                      Yeah but are Luffy's clothes out of rubber cause of his fruit?

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                                                                        He spins around, real fast.

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                                                                          I didn't know that…

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                                                                            Den Den and could someone please tell me in which chapter sanji used that move?thanks in advance!!😁

                                                                            Thats chapter 415…....👅

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                                                                              The only logical reasons about him not being burned that work are:
                                                                              A. He has flame retardant clothes (as said earlier) or
                                                                              B. He was wearing some kind of gaurd on his leg and foot.

                                                                              …Probably the first one.

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                                                                                ^or maybe its because THIS IS A MANGA NOT REAL LIFE

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                                                                                  Good fashion is always catching on like wild fire.

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                                                                                    The only logical explation i could think of to make it work in realy like is fire resistant pants an shoes wraped or dipped in something realy flamable so a little friction or sunlight will light it on fire. (like the old type of film strip, it would burn for no reason )

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                                                                                      😧 Odacchi, nice to meet you!! I finally sent you a postcard. It's a serious question, so give me a real answer. That trick that Sanji used to beat Jabura!! If it was that hot to Jabura, wouldn't it burn Sanji, too?!! Wouldn't Sanji be like, "yeow"?? Tell me! P.N. Oda Gayichiro

                                                                                      O: What are you talking about… WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!! Are those eyes, or holes in your head?!! What were you watching in that fight?!! His LEG is hot?! No, it's not hot!! SANJI'S HEART WAS BURNING SO MUCH HOTTER!!!

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                                                                                        Look, I think the answer is simple: friction.

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                                                                                          Just in relation to Luffy's clothes– isn't the reason he wears so little such loose clothing so that he can stretch unimpeded? I'm fairly sure his shorts and vest don't stretch, even when he does his balloon thing...

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                                                                                            @Impel:

                                                                                            Look, I think the answer is simple: friction.

                                                                                            Yes, in which the resulting heat would melt his rubber shoes….....and his human leg.

                                                                                            All I was asking for is a burned pant leg and some double-edged sword type damage. Im not asking for realistic, Im just asking for something that makes sense.

                                                                                            and Mizu patsy, its common one piece fan knowledge that devil fruits affect clothing as well. XP

                                                                                            If we didn't assume that, wed lose our fuckin minds. O_O

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                                                                                              I think has fire proof clothes lol… but in the Batartie arc he didn't seem to get a burn on his clothese when he and Luffy jumped out of those flames... or maybe he is just strong enough to stand it because in Little Garden Zoro, Nami and Vivi seemed to suvivie the flames... and Luffy has been going through a few flames... and with Usopp's defence I am sure he could easily suvive flames and same with Chopper VS Kudamori and Nico Robin is well...

                                                                                              this proves all the straw hats can witstand major flames...

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                                                                                                Maybe, since Sanji is a master chef, he's tasted spices from all over the world and can handle intense heat.

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                                                                                                  Yes, in which the resulting heat would melt his rubber shoes….....and his human leg.

                                                                                                  I think that it should be noted for the record that his so-called human leg has proven itself capable of completely shattering a big boulder underwater and barefoot while injured with a generic, un-named kick like, a hojillion chapters ago.

                                                                                                  Given that, it's obvious to me that just like Luffy, Zoro and the rest of the crew, Sanji is hardly 'only human' when it comes to what he's physically capable of.

                                                                                                  Im not asking for realistic, Im just asking for something that makes sense.

                                                                                                  …wait, what?

                                                                                                  ~ jj ~

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                                                                                                    Im not asking for realistic, Im just asking for something that makes sense.

                                                                                                    Sanji is a Mars Adept, and he's using alchemy to burn his legs, but also has a djini protect his legs with a counter-fire.

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                                                                                                      Golden Sun reference FTW

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                                                                                                        lol u guys do realise that if his clothes are fire proof, then we shouldnt be able to see fire on the outside of his clothes XD

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