Yeah it is.
Limit is 500 x 200.
The next new Nakama?
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Luffy says Zoro is his champion very early in the series. I think the dub said First mate.
Hey Dixxy, how can a marine on the opposite side of the fence to Luffy be the first mate? He hasn't even set foot on the ship yet.
Well, he was technically Luffy's first traveling companion, but it was more sarcasm than anything else.
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Zoro is a champion, just like Jesus Burgess in the BB crew.
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face smack where is your squirrel zoan now?!
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Lets face it… There is a 85% chance it will be male and 90% going to be another freak. Hell since we've entered the grand line we've had Chopper (freak of nature), Robin (freaky powers) and Franky (he is a freak).
I too would like to see a fish man join... However I expect a male and I don't want to guess at his fighting style.
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Would Brook be considered a freak? And Robin isn't a "freak", she's a human. She just ate a DF, is all.
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I said it in another thread but this one is the better choice for repeating it. I think (and hope) that ALL the remaining crewmates will be "freaks" for the simple reason to create something like visual balance among the team. Let me explain.
Take a look at this image. Even though the six humans have differently built bodies from how they are built they resemble each other. And now look at poor Chopper. No matter how you look at him he sticks out. No matter what we think about the character (if we love or hate him) this visual difference in how he is built will always make him appears as if he somehow is out of line their. Us die hard fans know how much he is a part of the crew but people that are not so much warmed up for One Piece might consider Chopper a bother because he "doesn´t fit" with the crew from a visual point of view. And believe me the world is full of superficial people so its not an unlikely scenario that I´m discribing here.
With Franky joining we have one more character who´s out of line. Not just because of his size, but also because of his unique forearms (and characterwise because he´s a cyborg). If Brook would join we would have yet another character who´s out of line, which would make a total of three.
Now if you think about it, the Grand Line is the freak place with a freakish environment. Its natural that Luffy finds "freak" characters for his crew here. Robin is an exception but then again he´s been an exception in every matter all along. If you compare his East Blue crewmates, they are all humans. Makes sense since it´s not the freak ocean.
In total Luffy will get 10 crewmates. 5 are already humans so if the other 5 five would be freaks he would have a perfect balance in the team and which would turning down on a freak would be less likely then as it was with the image above.
Now to the core question, what freaks are left? We have a manbeast mutant, a cyborg and hopefully an soon "undead" (even if its not going to be Brook, if somebody from this arc joins then he/she is going to be undead). The very plausible next guess is a fishman/fishwoman. Personally I already see that as set in stone, not only because the next island is fishman island but also because as I said it before in a pirate story that takes place in a world where things like fishmen exists it just can´t be happening that one of Luffy´s crewmates will not be a fishman.
So actually if we really get 5 freaks then the question is what else is left to join? So far there´s the following other freakish beings been introduced to the OP world: Giants, Monkeys, Aliens and Machinemen.
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Giants, Everybody knows them. It´s a bit unlikely for someone of them to join because of their size. Though if a giant ate a "shrinking fruit" then he could become small for sailing on Sunny and turn big for a fight for instance. But that could be similar to Monster Chopper (and a character like that already appeared in the Round the Land game).
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Monkeys, Like Masira, Shojo or Hamburg. Actually pretty interesting choice. I think the most likely remaining freak kind to place a contribution to the crew. Will the Strawhats ever go to a place like Monkey Island? Ever since I saw that great calendar with all the top players on it I asked myself why Masira and Shojo were on it who´ve just been Cricketts underlings. Is there maybe more to the monkeys? Was that foreshadowing for a Monkey Island? After all "Monkey Island" was a classic game and its needles to say that the theme of the game would fit well with One Piece. So Oda might plan to give tribute to the game to by introducing the monkeys home island. Just another of my whack ideas.
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Aliens, Not much to say here. The Space Pirates of that kind. And though I really doubt that an alien will join I at least have to bring them to attention since they appeared in the story.
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Machinemen, Like Spacey from the current cover story. Machine Island does exist and I hope for the Strawhats to go there at some point. If they really do then I´m sure that there´s going to be other kind of machinemen and not just the kind like Spacey. Though, he is cute and it would be nice if not all new additions would be large crewmates. However a machineman would somehow be similar to Franky.
Well, of the four "freaks" that are left I think that the monkeys are the best guess. But then again that´s just me. Of course it might be that after all there won´t be 5 freaks on the crew but if yes then I find the guessing game pretty interesting actually.
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The fact that Franky is a cyborg does not make him wierd. From looking at him, you could not tell he was a cyborg, probably. He is just…diffrent in his muscle tone and hair/clothing style.
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The fact that Franky is a cyborg does not make him wierd. From looking at him, you could not tell he was a cyborg, probably. He is just…diffrent in his muscle tone and hair/clothing style.
And now you are telling that Franky isn't wierd? C'mon.
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@Impel:
Would Brook be considered a freak? And Robin isn't a "freak", she's a human. She just ate a DF, is all.
Yes but like Chopper her DF makes her a freak. But mind you with all due respect, Luffy's DF makes him a freak too. And Sanji's eyebrow… Freaky... Usopp's nose. Freakisly long.... Zoro's hair and fighting style... Franky... Cyborg 'nuff said.
And Nami's a freak because....
Because...
Cause...
Erm...
I know!
She has freaky big breasts!
No wait that isn't freakish enough... I correct myself - she has a freakish ability to predict the weather. Is that good enough? Nami is the least freaky of the lot.
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@AD-HD:
And now you are telling that Franky isn't wierd? C'mon.
And that was a great post Ivotas. I am eager to see that Monkey Island.Hey don´t sue me if that never becomes reality. Just an theory of mine. However a guy like Luffy must surely feel like home at the island of monkeys and not just because of his name.
In regards to the freak argument. I adress everybody to look at the image again to get what I was talking about. If you add Franky to that line up he will certainly look freakish, not because of his eyes, not because of his cloths, but because of his forearms.
Furthermore, the sole fact that Sanji pointed out how different and unusual Chopper and Franky are in this recent chapter 448 not only proves that they are "freakish" but also that this "non-regular-human" stuff is not far fetched.
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@Impel:
The fact that Franky is a cyborg does not make him wierd. From looking at him, you could not tell he was a cyborg, probably. He is just…diffrent in his muscle tone and hair/clothing style.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Strawhat_pirates.png
Look at this line up.
Minus chopper, who is the Freak here?
All the rest, who look like normal people if you met them on the streat. Or the man wearing a speedo and a Hawian jacket with funky hair and Arm's stolen from popeye.
This is before you find out his arms can fire out cannon ball's of air and he can store soda in his stomach.
I think you need to lower your standard of Freak.
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After Brook, I could possibly see the final crew member being someone BIG! What position would be left, HMMMMMMM, Artist maybe?
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Helmsman, definitely helmsman. What good is that new ship if the everyone´s skill on board with the helm is what actually ruined Merry? Nami´s skill weather prediction skill means nothing if they don´t find anything who knows how to handle the ship ccording the navigators suggestion. Remember the entrance of Rivers Mountain.
Just think of a plane. The navigator might be helpful but it´s the pilot who flies that darn thing.
And there would be nobody better to be a helmsman then a fishman. Somebody who lives in the wet element probably knows best how to handle a ship to go smoothly with the waves to make such events like when the Strawhats entered Reverse Mountain not happen again.
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positions left: Singer to go along with the musician (A partner for Brooke, lol)
Person to clean up the ship and keep it neat (A maid?)
Magician (Some one suggested it, and the idea doesn't seem too bad…)If anything, I just hope the new Nakama is a female and a Mer-person (that would definately fit the singer role and be a perfect partner for Brooke)
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A magician makes absolutely no point in a pirate manga. He´d better fit in a barbarian manga.
If mystic or higher powers are to be included in a pirate story then it can only happen with a priest or a monk. Back in the colonial times, there wasn´t any ship that set sail without a priest aboard. Not only because of bringing the christian faith to the new world but also because people were superstitious and felt safer on their voyage by having a priest on board. That is also the very same reason why there where pirate priest. They were ment to protect the ship against curses.
If we will in fact see one join the crew is the other question, but its not something that is unthinkable on a pirate ship.
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A maid? A Quartermaster would be a better suggestion.
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I think Nami is pretty much already the de facto quartermaster. Same with artist and Usopp. A helmsman might work, though, specially if Sunny has a wheel instead of the whipstaff that Merry had.
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Is no one giving thought to a mermaid/scout?
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A magician makes absolutely no point in a pirate manga. He´d better fit in a barbarian manga.
If mystic or higher powers are to be included in a pirate story then it can only happen with a priest or a monk. Back in the colonial times, there wasn´t any ship that set sail without a priest aboard. Not only because of bringing the christian faith to the new world but also because people were superstitious and felt safer on their voyage by having a priest on board. That is also the very same reason why there where pirate priest. They were ment to protect the ship against curses.
If we will in fact see one join the crew is the other question, but its not something that is unthinkable on a pirate ship.
Magicians are illusionists, they don't do real magic. You're thinking of a mage.
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If we look to the pattern of the crewmembers, the first five were average height teenagers. Next is a small toddler, a tall sexy woman, a taller brawny male and if Brooke joins, the tallest thin man. What we need next is a fatass small/medium/tall/whatever and his inspiration should be from Jabba the Hutt but I doubt Oda likes Starwars.
I don't like the idea of a fishfreak joining. I mean we've seen a lot of them before. We have never seen a reindeer or cyborg before they even join.
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I don't like the idea of a fishfreak joining. I mean we've seen a lot of them before. We have never seen a reindeer or cyborg before they even join.
To me, gyojin are a reasonable part of the 'ethnic diversity' of the One Piece world. If the crew gets large enough, it would be reasonable that it includes a gyojin or two.
I don't really think of Franky as adding that diversity, because in spite of the metal, he's just another human nakama. Same with Brooke. He's just a "second-hand" human.
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Magicians are illusionists, they don't do real magic. You're thinking of a mage.
The point is not what they do but what they are. A magician does not really belong on a pirate ship. So far having a captain, a first mate, a navigator, a sharpshooter, a cook, a doctor, an archeologist and an shipwright makes perfect sense on a pirate ship. A helmsman, a priest and a musician also. A magician doesn´t strike me as something that not only was ever essential on a pirate ship but also as something that never even was on one. I´d find it funny though if they´d fight THE wizard in an fairytale island.
And as far as quartermasters, cabin boys and the likes are concerned. I really doubt that a crew that will at max. consist of 11 people really needs these positions filled.
To me, gyojin are a reasonable part of the 'ethnic diversity' of the One Piece world. If the crew gets large enough, it would be reasonable that it includes a gyojin or two.
Exactly my point. The fishman are part of the OP world. And since it is about pirates sailing the seas it would be totally unfitting to not have one of them on board.
I don't really think of Franky as adding that diversity, because in spite of the metal, he's just another human nakama. Same with Brooke. He's just a "second-hand" human.
Sigh, as I said it before the diversity comes on the visual part. Franky definitely looks completely different and in a way freakish compared to everyone else except Chopper. His forearms, his chin and his nose definitely are not normal.
And Oda already established it himself (through the words of Sanji) that Chopper and Franky appear out of line in comparison to the rest of the crew. The same counts for Brook because Sanji meant that in reference to everything Luffy asked to join his crew in this arc.
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Same with Brooke. He's just a "second-hand" human.
HE'S A SKELITON!
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But he is still human…
The flesh is gone...
The pervert remains...
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There are lots of people who have flesh gone, from burns and leprosy. They are not skelitons. Brook is diffrent, because he is a skeliton AND he has an afro.
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@Impel:
There are lots of people who have flesh gone, from burns and leprosy. They are not skelitons. Brook is diffrent, because he is a skeliton AND he has an afro.
Things wrong:
1- They didn't eat a DF that brought them back to life.
2- Brook survived death and is alive again.
3- They live in our world not OP's.
4- Brook doesn't have those illness, if he had flesh he'd be healthy (well… Depending).Edit:
Seriously, you can't make real life conmparisons with Brook.
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1- They didn't eat a DF that brought them back to life.
2- Brook survived death and is alive again.
3- They live in our world not OP's.
4- Brook doesn't have those illness, if he had flesh he'd be healthy (well… Depending).1. They didn't die
2. And that makes him a second-hand human? Being re-animated?
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Pints made… But still. I find it hard to compare him with a diease and burns. Your flesh is not completely stripped in the diease case, but he seems capable of everything a human is but is just a skeleton. He is human, even without flesh is all I'm going at here.
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Yeah, he's a human. So is Wanze, but he looks odd.
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And a walking "dead" person is not the slighest bit odd then?
Ah! Skip it I'm beginning to get confused a little… ^-^'
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This discussion is pointless. At one point Impel Down says a "skeliton" (learn to write that properly!) and in the same breath he says he is not odd. That´s beyond senseless!
Everybody who´s right in his mind will consider a skullface something freakish. Whether or not he´s revived or dead doesn´t matter in this discussion. He doesn´t look like a normal human period.
And for who´s not right in his mind and this isn´t enough of a proper argument is best suggested to go back and reread how all the Strawhats are disturbed with Luffy´s dicision to invite Brook because he is anything but normal.
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I'd like the next member to be a giant spider who specialises in limnology. For some reason though, I don't see that happening.
I think it's too early for a new person to join the crew. Franky needs to find his place in the group before a new member is introduced.The proud captain (and only member) of the Limnology Pirates. Join us, we do all kinds of interesting stuff, including:
-Talking about arachnids.
-Argueing over the taxonomy of Algae.
-Glaring at people who claim that spiders are insects.
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Actually we´ve head the same cast for more then 200 chapters. If the remaining three crewmates take equally long to join and afterwards require some time to travel actually with the Strawhats before the final arc(s) come then Oda probably wont finish this manga in his (or my) lifetime.
Except for the huge gab between Robin and Franky the it didn´t take Luffy that much time to get a new crewmate after the other, especially not in East Blue where in each arc a new member joined.
As well as Franky getting in touch with the Strawhats is concerned, he had plenty of time for that at Enies Lobby. It´s not like he needs to grow more attached to those guys he loved so much back then.
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Maybe it's just because I am still getting used to the idea of Franky being a part of the crew… If a new member is going to join, it sort of takes the spotlight off of Franky who at the moment is "the newest guy". Also this arc feels fillery (the same way Davy back fight did), so for me, it just doesn't feel like a new crewmember is going to join. Maybe this is a short arc, that gives us time to get used to Franky being a part of them, and then in the next arc someone else is going to join.
But if Brook indeed is joining, I have nothing against it.The proud captain (and only member) of the Limnology Pirates. Join us, we do all kinds of interesting stuff, including:
-Talking about arachnids.
-Argueing over the taxonomy of Algae.
-Glaring at people who claim that spiders are insects.
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Well it isn´t just a hunch you have, ALL great arcs had a mini arc before they themselves took place in which own antagonists appeared. Before Arabasta with Crocodile came Drum with Wapol, before Skypiea with Enel came Jaya with Bellamy and before Water 7/Enies Lobby with Rucchi came Longring Longland with Foxy. It is very likely that this arc follows the same line and prepares for a bigger theme at Fishman Island (just as the other the others did that before).
That said, Chopper also joined in one of this little arcs.
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We'll know for sure when the person has a flashback with a traumatic and tragic childhood event. The fishman helmsman will probably have been touched by his uncle as a young tadpole. The magician deckhand will have killed his childhood friend in a watertank accident, prompting his arch nemisis to ask Tesla for a duplication machine.
Brooke currently lacks any childhood forming event. He died, but he was old enough by then.
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We'll know for sure when the person has a flashback with a traumatic and tragic childhood event. The fishman helmsman will probably have been touched by his uncle as a young tadpole. The magician deckhand will have killed his childhood friend in a watertank accident, prompting his arch nemisis to ask Tesla for a duplication machine.
Brooke currently lacks any childhood forming event. He died, but he was old enough by then.
Well, yeah, but then how do you explain Franky's backstory? Although being abandoned must really, really suck, his big childhood event was when he was in his twenties - he was already an adult.
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@Dixxy:
Well, yeah, but then how do you explain Franky's backstory? Although being abandoned must really, really suck, his big childhood event was when he was in his twenties - he was already an adult.
It was a joke, but seriously the flashback often comes after they join the crew.
Nami and Robin's flashback came after they joined. Being orphaned was traumatic enough for Usopp and Chopper. The rest of the crew were also abandoned or orphaned. We still haven't seen the event that lead to Franky getting orphaned, but his father was definitely a pirate, similar to Usopp.
Vivi had her father all throughout her life and Gaimon was never mentioned as being orphaned. Nothing was really traumatic for either of their flashbacks, except Gaimon getting stuck in his chest. Doesn't exactly have the cool factor of having your parents murdered by pirates or marines.
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Sigh, as I said it before the diversity comes on the visual part. Franky definitely looks completely different and in a way freakish compared to everyone else except Chopper. His forearms, his chin and his nose definitely are not normal
But his backstory is still human.
Brooke's story until a few years ago is still a human story.
They play out against the same backdrops.
Chopper brings a unique perspective to the story because he wasn't raised from birth by humans and spent part of his life growing up in a nonhuman social structure. It somewhat disappoints me this hasn't been explored deeper though.
I'd expect the same would occur from a mermaid or gyojin. If you grew up a gyojin at Arlong Park, you'd have a completely different perspective of humanity than if you grew up a human in Kokoyashi.
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With so much speculation of getting 10 crew members, i wonder if well stop asking questions and speculating once the SH's reach 10, and then Oda gives us one more since we stopped expecting it.
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Probably. I certainly hope not, though.
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A pirate crew can go up to 50 on one ship.
The thousand Sunny is a Brigatine (yeah I can't spell it so I'm sorry if that was wrong) right? That class commonly hold 20-30 crew members easily, sometimes they will have 40 or 50 (depends on how cramped your prepared to have your men). Inccidently its class was populaur for pirates in the Caribean back in our golden age of piracey. I imagine the T.Sunny is design for about 10-20 though, judging by the spacious insides… But I'm not going to say I'm 100% sure of that.
So 10 crew members is nothing. A carvel (Merry's class) holds 10 - 20 people. The delaration of 10 people was right at the beginning, only a few vols later we had Merry. We could speculate Oda planned only 10 and designed a ship for only ten people. And Merry seemed to be design to hold a crew of not much bigger then that. So with the upgrade in class of ship he could be planning more crew members.
Inccidently, a ship the size of Shanks or WB's (both look to be galloens or something like that) could hold 40 - 100 crew members (definately 40 easy), possible more. Without knowing their classes I can't comment on its crew holding.
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But his backstory is still human.
Backstory and design are two completely different things. And design or appearance wise Franky and Brook (though with human backstories) definitely are freaks, hence Sanji´s comment in the most recent chapter.
I'd expect the same would occur from a mermaid or gyojin. If you grew up a gyojin at Arlong Park, you'd have a completely different perspective of humanity than if you grew up a human in Kokoyashi.
True, but so far Arlong Park is Arlong Park. The fishmen over there can´t be representative for every livin fishman in the OP world. If Fishman Island is a place that welcomes non-fishman visitors then I´d say that the majority of the people there isn´t racist towards humans. But even without the "racist" theme I think that it might a lot of diversity if somebody lives in an underwater island and leaves it to sail the seas. We can only hope for that to come true.
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It's so obvious that the Fishmen are like the KKK and humans are jews,blacks,irish,hispanic, so on.
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theyre more like nazis
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What if Luffy makes a Fishman that ate a DF join?
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What if Luffy makes a Fishman that ate a DF join?
Then it'd be retarded.
Theres no point on having a fishman who can't swim.
It's like having a dull sword.
It just doesn't cut it.
The only appeal a DF fishman would have is the monstrous strength he would possess. But we already have crazy strength. What we need is crazy mobility.
Either Brook or a fishman will join, as both can move about freely on the water. A fishman can swim pretty damn fast and Brook can run on water.And as a added bonus for having a musician in the form of Brook, he may be kind of a stealth recon type guy. Run across the water when everyones watching the ships mini-vehicles, plant a bomb made by Ussop, get the hell out of there, boom. And if they can find a way to keep his shadowless properties, without dying in the sun, would further his stealth values ever so.
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@Impel:
It's so obvious that the Fishmen are like the KKK and humans are jews,blacks,irish,hispanic, so on.
theyre more like nazis
It´s Arlong and his crew who ware racist not the entire kind. Don´t make generalizations like that.
Then it'd be retarded.
Theres no point on having a fishman who can't swim.
It's like having a dull sword.
It just doesn't cut it.
The only appeal a DF fishman would have is the monstrous strength he would possess. But we already have crazy strength. What we need is crazy mobility.
Either Brook or a fishman will join, as both can move about freely on the water. A fishman can swim pretty damn fast and Brook can run on water.This is an old theory of mine but it doesn´t hurt repeating it. We don´t know yet if fishmen become hammers once they ate Devil Fruits. For every rule there´s always exceptions and so far it wasn´t clearly stated that fishmen can´t swim either when they eat a DF. It is a fair assumption but it´s not set in stone yet.
And it isn´t too far off to expect that a sea creature will continue being able to swim after eating a DF because everything that became a hammer after eating a DF in OP is someone or something who´s natural environment is not within the water. Someone or something who does belong is already genetically different from those who don´t belong there so DF´s might have different effects on them. Besides, maybe someone like Arlong considered fishman a superior race because they don´t get side effects through Devil Fruits like other creatures.
All I´m saying is that so far it wasn´t said that fishmen can´t swim after eating a DF. And if there should ever be something like a Mizu Mizu no Mi (Water Fruit) then it would actually only make sense to be eaten by a fishman IF they really keep their swimming abilities.
