Arlong Park Forums

    • Register
    • Login
    • Search
    • Categories
    • Recent
    • Tags
    • Users
    • Groups

    Should Zoro get a sword with a devil fruit power?

    Manga
    88
    200
    54252
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • Mugiwara_no_Ice
      Mugiwara_no_Ice
      last edited by
      Mugiwara_no_Ice
      spiral
      Mugiwara_no_Ice
      spiral

      I HAVE A SCOOP : ZORRO's NEXT SWORD :

      ! When Zorro will be fighting absolom the 3rd greatest swordshollowman in the world, he'll start with nitouryou but Absolom being too difficult for Zorro, he'll unsheat his yubarashi –>
      ! Absolom: HAHAHAHAHA what are you gonna do with that wrecked sword you fool
      Zorro: Laugh now that you still can. DEMON SPIRIT YUBASHIRI REBORN
      Absolom: (what is this shit!!!, did he make a sword with his ki)
      ! Zorro: Santouryou Oni GIRIIIIIIIIII
      ! After that attack Absolom will be shocked but will survive , ....
      ! I will not spoil the end of the combat.

      Seeking infinity, with all my affinities.

      Finding truth, like a falling fruit, my ultimate finality.

      Inside my being, the outside, all things; the finite leads the way.

      dinty 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • S
        SuperStar
        last edited by
        S
        spiral
        SuperStar
        spiral

        Their is probably some kind of technique that these swordsman use to damage Logia's. Whitebeard, Mihawk and Shanks must have a way to harm them. This is a manga after all and anything is possible.

        ? 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • dinty
          dinty @Mugiwara_no_Ice
          @Mugiwara_no_Ice last edited by
          dinty
          spiral
          dinty
          spiral

          I will not spoil the end of the combat.

          Thanks for not spoiling the ending …
          But ... if this is about the upcoming chapter, you shouldn't have spoiled the beginning either!

          rips own hair out in frustration

          "Over-thinking,

          over-analyzing …"

          ......-- Tool (from Lateralus)

          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • X
            Xelso
            last edited by
            X
            spiral
            Xelso
            spiral

            damn i hate spoiler… specialy especific spoiler...

            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • Mugiwara_no_Ice
              Mugiwara_no_Ice
              last edited by
              Mugiwara_no_Ice
              spiral
              Mugiwara_no_Ice
              spiral

              hahahahahaha does it sound so real
              hmmmmm I think I m a genius

              Seeking infinity, with all my affinities.

              Finding truth, like a falling fruit, my ultimate finality.

              Inside my being, the outside, all things; the finite leads the way.

              CosmicDebris dinty 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • CosmicDebris
                CosmicDebris @Mugiwara_no_Ice
                @Mugiwara_no_Ice last edited by
                CosmicDebris
                spiral
                CosmicDebris
                spiral

                Don't even joke about spoilers on this board, you might get your head torn off by someone in the process.

                Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible. - Frank Zappa

                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • dinty
                  dinty @Mugiwara_no_Ice
                  @Mugiwara_no_Ice last edited by
                  dinty
                  spiral
                  dinty
                  spiral

                  @Mugiwara_no_Ice:

                  hahahahahaha does it sound so real
                  hmmmmm I think I m a genius

                  Well, "genius" wasn't the first word that popped into my mind, but …

                  ... to keep it civil : let me just say that when Oda writes, anything is possible, so I'll accept any crazy spoiler as "true" until the actual manga chapter proves it to be false.

                  "Over-thinking,

                  over-analyzing …"

                  ......-- Tool (from Lateralus)

                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • Mugiwara_no_Ice
                    Mugiwara_no_Ice
                    last edited by
                    Mugiwara_no_Ice
                    spiral
                    Mugiwara_no_Ice
                    spiral

                    yow man you need to cool down a bit

                    I thought this way was more fun than saying:
                    "No Zorro doesn't need a df-sword, not a kairouseki-sword, he even doesn't need a sword , he'll make one with his KI"

                    It wasn't even my intention to joke about new spoilers.
                    I forgot that it was spoiler time right now
                    In fact I wanted to write : Oda himself told me..

                    but yeah I will consider all the factors next time I want to joke a bit.

                    Seeking infinity, with all my affinities.

                    Finding truth, like a falling fruit, my ultimate finality.

                    Inside my being, the outside, all things; the finite leads the way.

                    dinty 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • ?
                      Captain Ramen @SuperStar
                      @SuperStar last edited by
                      ?
                      spiral
                      Captain Ramen
                      spiral

                      He already can cut most DF users anyway. What he can't cut are logia and Buggy. It would be lame for him to cut logia because his sword has some some cheap trick up it's ass. What if his sword happened to be stolen/lost? All of a sudden he is useless infront of a logia. Look at Shanks, (probably) one of the 2 best swordsmen in the world. He uses some ordinary (looking) sabre, not some gimmick seastone one.

                      Isn't he already useless against Logia? Also, I don't remember him having a problem trying to get Wiper's seastone when they where all fighting Enel so I doubt he sees it as a cheap trick.

                      Their is probably some kind of technique that these swordsman use to damage Logia's. Whitebeard, Mihawk and Shanks must have a way to harm them. This is a manga after all and anything is possible.

                      Now that does sound cool, it would be great if there was a technique like that. Though until Zoro shows some sign of trying to learn this kind of technique I still say a Seastone sword isn't a bad idea. If he does start working towards this kind of technique though then he definatly shouldn't get a Seastone sword.

                      ? S 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • ?
                        nessfromhyrule @Guest
                        @Guest last edited by
                        ?
                        spiral
                        nessfromhyrule
                        spiral

                        I don't really think that Zoro should get a sword with a devil fruit power because then Zoro won't be a regular swordsman anymore, and also he won't be using his own skills and strength if he had a sword with a devil fruit power.

                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • *Meh*
                          *Meh*
                          last edited by
                          *Meh*
                          spiral
                          *Meh*
                          spiral

                          Having thought the matter over carefully and with much deliberation, I have changed my mind on the matter. Zoro should have a sword with a very specific Devil Fruit. The Sword Sword Fruit, Model: Yubashiri.

                          I'm like Hisotensoku: Not here to preserve peace, nor to destroy it. I certainly can't move mountains. Mostly, I'm just full of hot air.- Meh

                          Polygon 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • Polygon
                            Polygon @*Meh*
                            @*Meh* last edited by
                            Polygon
                            spiral
                            Polygon
                            spiral

                            @_Meh_:

                            Having thought the matter over carefully and with much deliberation, I have changed my mind on the matter. Zoro should have a sword with a very specific Devil Fruit. The Sword Sword Fruit, Model: Yubashiri.

                            But then his sword couldn't swim.

                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • *Meh*
                              *Meh*
                              last edited by
                              *Meh*
                              spiral
                              *Meh*
                              spiral

                              It can't swim anyway, it's a sword.

                              I'm like Hisotensoku: Not here to preserve peace, nor to destroy it. I certainly can't move mountains. Mostly, I'm just full of hot air.- Meh

                              Polygon 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • Polygon
                                Polygon @*Meh*
                                @*Meh* last edited by
                                Polygon
                                spiral
                                Polygon
                                spiral

                                @_Meh_:

                                It can't swim anyway, it's a sword.

                                :getlost: I know.

                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • dinty
                                  dinty @Mugiwara_no_Ice
                                  @Mugiwara_no_Ice last edited by
                                  dinty
                                  spiral
                                  dinty
                                  spiral

                                  @Mugiwara_no_Ice:

                                  yow man you need to cool down a bit …
                                  but yeah I will consider all the factors next time I want to joke a bit.

                                  It's ok, dude, it's cool.
                                  I'm not angry anymore – I promise. I was just having flashbacks of times I'd been spoiled before in threads like this, and I didn't want it to happen again. Especially not over the reforging/replacement/reworking of Santoryu and/or Yubashiri. I mean, that chapter, when it happens, is going to be another huge turning point for Zoro, so the less I know about it beforehand, the better.

                                  You're right, your timing was bad -- I bet if you'd posted your message on Sunday, I would have understood that it was a joke and wouldn't have jumped on you about it.

                                  Peace.

                                  "Over-thinking,

                                  over-analyzing …"

                                  ......-- Tool (from Lateralus)

                                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • M
                                    murray24
                                    last edited by
                                    M
                                    spiral
                                    murray24
                                    spiral

                                    Maybe he already has a sword with a devil fruit but he doesn't know it. Maybe his sword cut the demon demon fruit but he has to be aware of it before he can use it correctly…i love when i make theory that doesn't mean anything but that could be awesome if they were true

                                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • &
                                      ''White Chase'' Smoker
                                      last edited by
                                      &
                                      spiral
                                      ''White Chase'' Smoker
                                      spiral

                                      zoro gettin a sword with df powers is like usopp gettin a slingshot with df powers.its not happenin so dont get excited

                                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • M
                                        murray24
                                        last edited by
                                        M
                                        spiral
                                        murray24
                                        spiral

                                        you just ruin the only thing that doesn't make me think about the next chapter…i want it now !

                                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                        • &
                                          ''White Chase'' Smoker
                                          last edited by
                                          &
                                          spiral
                                          ''White Chase'' Smoker
                                          spiral

                                          yeah well im pretty sure everyone else here does to

                                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                          • dinty
                                            dinty @*Meh*
                                            @*Meh* last edited by
                                            dinty
                                            spiral
                                            dinty
                                            spiral

                                            @_Meh_:

                                            Zoro will, indeed, get a new sword. It all has to do with Santoryuu … again, Zoro warned them of the difference between simply using three swords at once and practicing Santoryuu. Anyone with two arms and strong teeth and jaws could swing three swords around, but they'd probably end up hurting themselves ... Using one full size sword and what is effectively a dagger (the remains of Yubashiri) was not part of his style and would require making major revisions to his existing style. Not only would any new technique have to take the difference in blade length into account, but his existing moveset would have to be similarly revised ... Zoro needs a style which is as common as breathing to overcome all opposition, not a fledgling revision that requires attention best saved for his enemy. While Zoro might not simply discard Yubashiri, I am certain that he will replace it.

                                            Meh – After having given it thought I'm leaning more towards this view now, too. The tipping point for me was the latest chapter, where we see Zoro fighting with Wado in his mouth. My idea of him adapting Santoryuu was entirely depandant on him putting Wado in his hand and Yubashiri in is mouth.

                                            Your post also got me thinking about Wado more symbolically than I'd been thinking about it before. I think this was because I remembered that Zoro fought with Wado in his hands all through the Arlong arc, but forgot that this was only because he had no other swords to fight with at the time. As soon as he'd secured two other swords from Johnny and Yosaku, Wado was back in his mouth again, even though it was the superior fighting sword of the three.

                                            So even though putting Yubashiri in his mouth would give Zoro less blade to move around (and this giving him a wider range of moves than when Wado was in his mouth), it would still be symbolically demoting Wado to a "fighting" sword, while elevating Yubashiri to a "symbolic" sword (the one carried into battle, but not fought with)

                                            So when looked at in a symbolic context, there really is only one option left for Zoro : get a new sword. I suppose we could also say that "not fighting with a sword in the right hand" is an option too, since we've seen an example of it in the latest chapter -- but we know from what Zoro said back in Loguetown, that he doesn't really feel "secure" unless he's got three swords, and since we're just about to enter one of the wildest parts of the Grand Line, Zoro's got to feel secure, so that he can concentrate completely on his fighting.

                                            So yes, new sword.

                                            But NOT a gimmick one. No sea-stone, dial enhanced, logia, etc.

                                            The only "gimmick" I'll accept willingly is a curse.
                                            I think Zoro's thinking the same thing, too.
                                            (if he wasn't he'd probably have kept the Vice Admiral's cutlass from EL, or taken Funkfried from the bridge, etc). He may be eager to get a new sword, but he dosen't seem desperate yet.

                                            😉

                                            "Over-thinking,

                                            over-analyzing …"

                                            ......-- Tool (from Lateralus)

                                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                            • ?
                                              Captain Ramen
                                              last edited by
                                              ?
                                              spiral
                                              Captain Ramen
                                              spiral

                                              I have to agree that Zoro isn't gonna use Yubashiri as a dagger, though like others said I doubt he'd get rid of it. I'm still kinda hoping he finds a way to repair it, that swords seem to have some significane (not as much as Wado of course, but it'd still be nice for him not to lose it).

                                              I still don't see what's gimmicky about a Seastone sword though. I can understand DF's and Dials being cheap (at least for Zoro, I wouldn't have a problem with any of the others using them) but I just don't know what the big deal is with a Seastone sword. It's not like it'll make him super strong instantly, or suddenly able to beat DF users in one blow.

                                              dinty 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                              • dinty
                                                dinty @Guest
                                                @Guest last edited by
                                                dinty
                                                spiral
                                                dinty
                                                spiral

                                                @Captain:

                                                I still don't see what's gimmicky about a Seastone sword though … It's not like it'll make him super strong instantly, or suddenly able to beat DF users in one blow.

                                                My objection to a seastone sword is slightly different from my objection to Dial and DF swords, because it involves aesthetics as well as abilities. I don't see a way that a sufficient amount of seastone can be added to a sword without compromising blade strength or sharpness ; without adding excess weight to the hilt ; or without causing the blade to become too brittle to survive a series of Cannon attacks. And while some have suggested that only the hilt needs to be made of seastone, my response is : that's the wrong end to be pointing at an enemy! … As best we know, seastone power does not radiate that far (if it did, Smoker couldn't carry his weapon on his back -- Tashigi would have to carry it for him).

                                                As for seastone inlay : if the seastones were fused in some way to the surface of the blade, they'd be too small to be powerful, or else they'd interfere with the sheathing/unsheathing of the blade. If the seastone was inlaid instead, it would compromise the strength of the blade, and the blade would be difficult to sharpen.

                                                So no seastone sword.

                                                But... I don't think that Zoro would be against using seastone in other ways. For instance, if there was a big chunk of seastone lying on the ground, I could see him throwing it at an enemy, or holding it against an enemy while he delivered the coup de grace with his (regular) sword. Wiper did something similar to Ener, and Zoro was there to see it, so it's an idea that he might fall back on at a future time.

                                                "Over-thinking,

                                                over-analyzing …"

                                                ......-- Tool (from Lateralus)

                                                ? 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                • ?
                                                  Captain Ramen @dinty
                                                  @dinty last edited by
                                                  ?
                                                  spiral
                                                  Captain Ramen
                                                  spiral

                                                  Ah I see your point. I'll admit making the blade more brittle might be a problem, but I don't think weight is gonna be a factor. We've already seen him use blades that our heavier than a Katana (Johnny and Yosaku's swords) effortlessly so I don't think that would be problem. I'll admit I'm not sure how well seastone works in weapons, Smoker seems to have no problems with getting his sword repaired, or it being brittle, but he also has DF powers to rely on and we don't see him much so I can't use him to accurately judge the blade.

                                                  As for Zoro himself using it, he already tried to in the fight against Enel.

                                                  dinty 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                  • S
                                                    SuperStar @Guest
                                                    @Guest last edited by
                                                    S
                                                    spiral
                                                    SuperStar
                                                    spiral

                                                    @Captain:

                                                    .Now that does sound cool, it would be great if there was a technique like that. Though until Zoro shows some sign of trying to learn this kind of technique I still say a Seastone sword isn't a bad idea. If he does start working towards this kind of technique though then he definatly shouldn't get a Seastone sword.

                                                    I really do believe there is a way for swordsman to damage Logia's without the use of seastone. In other words, how does Mihawk and Shanks sail around the Grandline without having some skill trying to fend of Logia's? Lets not forget that Whitebeard himself is wielding a Blade (Kwan Do) and he is the "Strongest Man In The World." Whitebeard had a rule on his ship: "You found it, you got to eat it." To me, that shows that Whitebeard can care less about a devil fruit ability and means that there must be a way to harm Logia's without the use of seastone or finding it's weakness.

                                                    Only time will tell.😄

                                                    Kakaliaha 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                    • dinty
                                                      dinty @Guest
                                                      @Guest last edited by
                                                      dinty
                                                      spiral
                                                      dinty
                                                      spiral

                                                      @Captain:

                                                      I'll admit I'm not sure how well seastone works in weapons, Smoker seems to have no problems with getting his sword repaired, or it being brittle, but he also has DF powers to rely on and we don't see him much so I can't use him to accurately judge the blade … As for Zoro himself using it, he already tried to in the fight against Enel.

                                                      If I'm remembering correctly, Smoker doesn't use a sword, he uses a sort of extended truncheon. It has no blade. Only the tip of Smoker's weapon seems to be made out of seastone, and that's how he briefly immobilizes Luffy – by pointing the tip at Luffy's chest.

                                                      You're right about Zoro though -- I'd forgotten that he already tried to use seastone against Ener! So we know from that moment that he was not "above" using it, and that he may use it again. So seastone : yes, seastone sword : no. Or at least in my own opinion. Feel free to disagree.
                                                      😄

                                                      "Over-thinking,

                                                      over-analyzing …"

                                                      ......-- Tool (from Lateralus)

                                                      ? 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                      • ?
                                                        Captain Ramen @dinty
                                                        @dinty last edited by
                                                        ?
                                                        spiral
                                                        Captain Ramen
                                                        spiral

                                                        I really do believe there is a way for swordsman to damage Logia's without the use of seastone. In other words, how does Mihawk and Shanks sail around the Grandline without having some skill trying to fend of Logia's? Lets not forget that Whitebeard himself is wielding a Blade (Kwan Do) and he is the "Strongest Man In The World." Whitebeard had a rule on his ship: "You found it, you got to eat it." To me, that shows that Whitebeard can care less about a devil fruit ability and means that there must be a way to harm Logia's without the use of seastone or finding it's weakness.

                                                        Only time will tell.😄

                                                        Well I think I've said it before, but if there is one then he definatly shouldn't have a Seastone sword. If there isn't though, then I don't consider it a problem.

                                                        Ah that's right dinty, I forgot what kind of weapon Smoker used. I still don't think a seastone sword would be bad, but I see your point.

                                                        G 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                        • S
                                                          SuperStar
                                                          last edited by
                                                          S
                                                          spiral
                                                          SuperStar
                                                          spiral

                                                          Yeah, If characters can upgrade themselves with Loigia fruits, why not Zoro upgrade with a seastone sword? That sound about right.

                                                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                          • G
                                                            Gerikhabarovsk @Guest
                                                            @Guest last edited by
                                                            G
                                                            spiral
                                                            Gerikhabarovsk
                                                            spiral

                                                            No !..
                                                            Instead of that, i would like him to have SeaStone Sword..

                                                            .. Into The Wilderness of Advance Wind ..

                                                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                            • Kakaliaha
                                                              Kakaliaha @SuperStar
                                                              @SuperStar last edited by
                                                              Kakaliaha
                                                              spiral
                                                              Kakaliaha
                                                              spiral

                                                              @SuperStar:

                                                              I really do believe there is a way for swordsman to damage Logia's without the use of seastone. In other words, how does Mihawk and Shanks sail around the Grandline without having some skill trying to fend of Logia's? Lets not forget that Whitebeard himself is wielding a Blade (Kwan Do) and he is the "Strongest Man In The World." Whitebeard had a rule on his ship: "You found it, you got to eat it." To me, that shows that Whitebeard can care less about a devil fruit ability and means that there must be a way to harm Logia's without the use of seastone or finding it's weakness.

                                                              Only time will tell.😄

                                                              Not to be questioning you but where does it say Whitebeard has a rule like that?

                                                              S 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                              • S
                                                                SuperStar @Kakaliaha
                                                                @Kakaliaha last edited by
                                                                S
                                                                spiral
                                                                SuperStar
                                                                spiral

                                                                @Kakaliaha:

                                                                Not to be questioning you but where does it say Whitebeard has a rule like that?

                                                                Here….....Chapter 440 "Flame Fist vs. Blackbeard!"

                                                                Blackbeard:True, I did indeed kill
                                                                The 4th Corps Commander Satch…!!
                                                                But I had to...
                                                                He got his hands on the Devil Fruit I wanted!!
                                                                The ship's rule was: You found it, you got to eat it.
                                                                I memorized the shape of every fruit in the book.
                                                                So I could tell it was the one I always wanted, from the moment I saw it.

                                                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                                • *Meh*
                                                                  *Meh*
                                                                  last edited by
                                                                  *Meh*
                                                                  spiral
                                                                  *Meh*
                                                                  spiral

                                                                  As to using a Seastone sword, I have some of the same doubts dinty raised about it. If it has metallic properties, then a steel/seastone alloy wouldn't be too bad; if it behaves as a crystalline mineral, then it cannot be properly alloyed. Plus, it would be far too brittle for use as a blade weapon. Perhaps a steel sword with several hollow spaces along the length of the blade? These could then be fitted with Seastone discs after the final forging, with the sword being air-cooled to prevent the discs from cracking. While this design looks cool in my imagination, it has some inherent flaws.
                                                                  (1.) It requires a wider blade than an ordinary katana.

                                                                  (2.) Forging a sword with a series of holes requires single-casting or lathing. Single-casting means the blade could not be folded, resulting in a blade much weaker than his other swords. Lathing would allow for a folded steel bar to be used, but it would possibly lose some its strength when it was heated to allow for proper sealing around the Seastone discs. If my terminology and/or information regarding the forging processes is incorrect, feel free to tear me a new a$$#013.

                                                                  I'm like Hisotensoku: Not here to preserve peace, nor to destroy it. I certainly can't move mountains. Mostly, I'm just full of hot air.- Meh

                                                                  Y 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                                  • Y
                                                                    Yoshu-sama @*Meh*
                                                                    @*Meh* last edited by
                                                                    Y
                                                                    spiral
                                                                    Yoshu-sama
                                                                    spiral

                                                                    I think it would be fitting if Zoro got one of the Saijou Oowaza-mono (mentioned in episode 49) like the first demon splitter as a replacement. Personally it would be awesome if he had all three demon splitters, but that would mean he'd have to not use Wadou Ichimonji, which I just don't see happening. There's no way he'd ever resort to using a DF sword though, I think they make fights cheap, or cheesy.

                                                                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                                    • Kaze
                                                                      Kaze
                                                                      last edited by
                                                                      Kaze
                                                                      spiral
                                                                      Kaze
                                                                      spiral

                                                                      No, simple as that.

                                                                      Zoro Should not have a df sword. it would completely fuck up his style. Plus what he has gainded and achieved would be lost, after obtaining a df it'd be a crutch that zoro doesn't need, he already beat a df user with aout any dfs. he wont get one.

                                                                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                                      • &
                                                                        ''White Chase'' Smoker
                                                                        last edited by
                                                                        &
                                                                        spiral
                                                                        ''White Chase'' Smoker
                                                                        spiral

                                                                        this is how i see zoros future.either he gets a seastone sword or there is a way to hurt the logias and he finds it out.or there is always the fact that maybe he masters to hear the breath of all things

                                                                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                                        • Impel Down
                                                                          Impel Down
                                                                          last edited by
                                                                          Impel Down
                                                                          spiral
                                                                          Impel Down
                                                                          spiral

                                                                          ! he takes Moria's sword

                                                                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                                          • A
                                                                            AD-HD Pirate
                                                                            last edited by
                                                                            A
                                                                            spiral
                                                                            AD-HD Pirate
                                                                            spiral

                                                                            And how the hell we know that Moria have a sword?

                                                                            A Impel Down 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                                            • A
                                                                              AnotherHero @AD-HD Pirate
                                                                              @AD-HD Pirate last edited by
                                                                              A
                                                                              spiral
                                                                              AnotherHero
                                                                              spiral

                                                                              im holding out for a johhny and yosaku sidestory where they wind up delivering zolo a new sword

                                                                              ::awaiting signature::

                                                                              dinty Impel Down 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                                              • Impel Down
                                                                                Impel Down @AD-HD Pirate
                                                                                @AD-HD Pirate last edited by
                                                                                Impel Down
                                                                                spiral
                                                                                Impel Down
                                                                                spiral

                                                                                @AD-HD:

                                                                                And how the hell we know that Moria have a sword?

                                                                                look at the one page where the "mysterious man" is talking to the paintings. He has a katana. I belive he is Moria.

                                                                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                                                • A
                                                                                  AD-HD Pirate
                                                                                  last edited by
                                                                                  A
                                                                                  spiral
                                                                                  AD-HD Pirate
                                                                                  spiral

                                                                                  I belive he is Moria.

                                                                                  And why would one of the Shichibukais be Hogback's guard? That is making no sense.

                                                                                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                                                  • Impel Down
                                                                                    Impel Down
                                                                                    last edited by
                                                                                    Impel Down
                                                                                    spiral
                                                                                    Impel Down
                                                                                    spiral

                                                                                    He's not a guard, he controls Hogback through fear.

                                                                                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                                                    • A
                                                                                      AD-HD Pirate
                                                                                      last edited by
                                                                                      A
                                                                                      spiral
                                                                                      AD-HD Pirate
                                                                                      spiral

                                                                                      He's not a guard, he controls Hogback through fear.

                                                                                      It is said that he is guardian. Look, that man is not Gecko. I can promise that.

                                                                                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                                                      • dinty
                                                                                        dinty @AnotherHero
                                                                                        @AnotherHero last edited by
                                                                                        dinty
                                                                                        spiral
                                                                                        dinty
                                                                                        spiral

                                                                                        @AnotherHero:

                                                                                        im holding out for a johhny and yosaku sidestory where they wind up delivering zolo a new sword

                                                                                        I would love to see that!
                                                                                        I miss those two idiots ( <–- I use this word affectionately, of course!)
                                                                                        😁

                                                                                        "Over-thinking,

                                                                                        over-analyzing …"

                                                                                        ......-- Tool (from Lateralus)

                                                                                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                                                        • Impel Down
                                                                                          Impel Down @AnotherHero
                                                                                          @AnotherHero last edited by
                                                                                          Impel Down
                                                                                          spiral
                                                                                          Impel Down
                                                                                          spiral

                                                                                          @AnotherHero:

                                                                                          im holding out for a johhny and yosaku sidestory where they wind up delivering zolo a new sword

                                                                                          Check the underlined.

                                                                                          dinty 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                                                          • dinty
                                                                                            dinty @Impel Down
                                                                                            @Impel Down last edited by
                                                                                            dinty
                                                                                            spiral
                                                                                            dinty
                                                                                            spiral

                                                                                            @Impel:

                                                                                            Check the underlined.

                                                                                            It's not wrong to call him "Zolo" – he's called "Zolo" in Viz, Shonen Jump USA, 4Kids and in some international translations.

                                                                                            "Over-thinking,

                                                                                            over-analyzing …"

                                                                                            ......-- Tool (from Lateralus)

                                                                                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                                                            • A
                                                                                              AnotherHero
                                                                                              last edited by
                                                                                              A
                                                                                              spiral
                                                                                              AnotherHero
                                                                                              spiral

                                                                                              Name dispute aside, I still think that would be a good story. If Colby and Helmeppo made such a cool return to the story, I think its fair game to hope for Johnny and Yosaku.

                                                                                              ::awaiting signature::

                                                                                              dinty 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                                                              • dinty
                                                                                                dinty @AnotherHero
                                                                                                @AnotherHero last edited by
                                                                                                dinty
                                                                                                spiral
                                                                                                dinty
                                                                                                spiral

                                                                                                @AnotherHero:

                                                                                                If Colby and Helmeppo made such a cool return to the story, I think its fair game to hope for Johnny and Yosaku.

                                                                                                Your wish got me thinking (which always means danger!) of how Oda could possibly pull this off, and I came up with two sidestories that could make this happen. Both involve kidnapping J and Y, because – let's face it -- they could never get this far into Grand Line on their own without the "help" of someone stronger.
                                                                                                😉

                                                                                                Here are my two scenarios:

                                                                                                1. Gin and Don Krieg's former crew set sail for the Grand Line. On the way, J&Y (inspired by the great acts of heroism of the Mugiwara) over-ambitiously attempt to bring the Gin Pirates (new name now that Don Krieg is no longer the captain) in for Bounty Money. Of course, Gin's crew easily defeats them. Just as the boys are being forced to walk the plank, it occurs to Gin that since these two are buddies of the Mugiwara, they may be more useful as hostages than as Pandashark food. So their lives are spared. Thus J&Y's 'chronicle of toil' begins, as they are made to do all sorts of awful chores to earn their keep. Just before the Mugiwara enter Fishman Island, Gin's crew catches up to them and after negotiation breaks down (Luffy says "why should we give them that much treasure when we can just kick their asses instead?") a full-on sea battle erupts between the two ships. Sunny, being SUPPPPAAA, wins the day, J&Y are fished out from the wreckage of Gin's ship with a net, and as they are hauled aboard Sunny, Zoro notices something sparkling in the net beside Johnny. At first they think it's an eel, and Johnny jumps from it in fear. But it's not an eel -- it's a high grade katana that was once a prized posession of Gin, locked away for safe keeping in the Treasure Chest on his ship! Zoro has never been so happy to see J&Y as he is at that moment ... 😉

                                                                                                2. The second scenario is similar, but it's Jinbei who captures J&Y after hearing of Arlong's defeat in East Blue. Alas, torture reveals no more from J&Y than that the Mugiwara are headed for the Grand Line and that Luffy intends to be King of the Pirates, so Jinbei takes the hostages with him and follows in the wake of the Mugiwara. He finally catches up to them at Fishman island, where a similar battle takes place, but this time Hachi's sensei and Zoro have a swordfight, and just when it seems Zoro is going to lose, Yosaku accidentally does something stupid that causes Hachi's sensei to turn away for a moment, and that gives Zoro just enough of an opening to deliver a wave-shaking, boat-breaking, hit-point taking Cannon (which he'll look back fondly on as the first move he ever used to split a ship in half) the aftershock of which sends everyone flying in a dozen different directions. As the Mugiwara help each other up out of the wreckage, J (or Y) spots Zoro floating in the water and calls out to him. Unfortunately, in the fall, Zoro hurt his leg and can't climb up out the water. So they try to lift him out, but he's too far away so they can't grab his hand. So J (or Y) grabs the nearest thing in the wreckage to help reach Zoro, and it's a sheathed sword -- the quality of which is evident to Zoro without seeing the blade, just by touching it. Naturally, he grabs onto it as tightly as possible, so J&Y use it to pull him close enough to where they can drag him out fo the water, and the sword continues to save Zoro's life from then on out.

                                                                                                Hahah! Yes, I know, I have an overactive imagination.
                                                                                                That's probably the reason why I'm such a doujinshi fiend.
                                                                                                😉

                                                                                                "Over-thinking,

                                                                                                over-analyzing …"

                                                                                                ......-- Tool (from Lateralus)

                                                                                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                                                                • H
                                                                                                  HikaruYami
                                                                                                  last edited by
                                                                                                  H
                                                                                                  spiral
                                                                                                  HikaruYami
                                                                                                  spiral

                                                                                                  Just in case this topic hasn't gone off of the original topic, I'll just answer the topic without looking at anyone else's opinion. I don't think he needs one.

                                                                                                  (I mostly made this comment to take the post count of the OP manga section of this forum off of exactly 132,000)

                                                                                                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                                                                  • dinty
                                                                                                    dinty
                                                                                                    last edited by
                                                                                                    dinty
                                                                                                    spiral
                                                                                                    dinty
                                                                                                    spiral

                                                                                                    Um, happy … anniversary?

                                                                                                    "Over-thinking,

                                                                                                    over-analyzing …"

                                                                                                    ......-- Tool (from Lateralus)

                                                                                                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                                                                    • S
                                                                                                      Sanctum
                                                                                                      last edited by
                                                                                                      S
                                                                                                      spiral
                                                                                                      Sanctum
                                                                                                      spiral

                                                                                                      We need a cake. A big cake. Make it a cheese cake.

                                                                                                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                                                                      • Impel Down
                                                                                                        Impel Down
                                                                                                        last edited by
                                                                                                        Impel Down
                                                                                                        spiral
                                                                                                        Impel Down
                                                                                                        spiral

                                                                                                        Call Jim Gaffigan. He has cake.

                                                                                                        A 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0

                                                                                                        • 1
                                                                                                        • 2
                                                                                                        • 3
                                                                                                        • 4
                                                                                                        • 3 / 4
                                                                                                        • First post
                                                                                                          Last post
                                                                                                        Powered by NodeBB | Contributors