I judge that crocodile is preety weak…
Anyone agree with me?
Maybe not weak, but the way Luffy beat him, I thought it was too easy, compared to how he beat Don Creek... Plus, he has the most uncool power in BW.
Heck,I'd even consider Mr1 candidate for Mr0!
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Yeh, Crocodile is sooooo weak!1! That's why it only took Luffy just three attempts to actually beat him. <_<
Heck, if Croc wasn't so complacent, he'd probably have Luffy dead twice over.
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Crocodile is not weak, if he is in a desert then he's unbeatable.
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So far Crocodile was Luffy´s strongest opponent. He actually killed Luffy twice already. Even Enel who was the next big guy wasn´t such threat to Luffy. And please tell me who in BW would actually be stronger then him. In fact if he was so weak then why where all the special agents affraid of him once they found out who their boss is?
And what does have cool- or uncoolness have to do with strenght and power in the first place?
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I didn't even think his power was uncool. That's the only time I've seen that kind of sand power.
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I don't think crocodile is weak, even though the BW doesn't just rank the members by mear strength (take for example Mr. 3 who isn't as strong as Mr. 4 yet in tactical terms is better).
yes the desert is one of the greatest advantage to croc's suna suna power. I even think its a bit similar as to ener being in the clouds (thunder of course).
Just like some said, croc did beat luffy 2 times. Though it was a good point you brought up since it really seemed more easier for luffy to beat croc in the 3rd round (maybe cause that time hes gone over the borders at being pissed).
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his power is not uncool : D
I've seen too much fire, ice, wind, and such other powers in other mangas
it gets soooo old
croc is the first one I've seen with a sand power
and his use of his power is soo cool X3 -
no its probably just you,
i dont think croc is weak at all instead i feel that he like all the rest of the logia users is ridiculously strong
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Originally posted by Ivotas@Apr 18 2005, 10:08 AM
So far Crocodile was Luffy´s strongest opponent. He actually killed Luffy twice already. Even Enel who was the next big guy wasn´t such threat to Luffy. And please tell me who in BW would actually be stronger then him. In fact if he was so weak then why where all the special agents affraid of him once they found out who their boss is?
And what does have cool- or uncoolness have to do with strenght and power in the first place?
[snapback]33342[/snapback]Ener was probably the strongest guy Luffy fought,
its just that rubber dosen't conduct electricity.
Crocodile is far from weak, he could take down any of his subordinates with ease.
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That's so untrue. Crocodile is probably one of Luffy's toughest opponents
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Originally posted by Starlight@Apr 18 2005, 06:51 PM
That's so untrue. Crocodile is probably one of Luffy's toughest opponents
[snapback]33436[/snapback]True, but in general Eneru is also very powerfull he is just not powerful against Luffy.
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Originally posted by Cataclism+Apr 18 2005, 09:03 PM–>QUOTE(Cataclism @ Apr 18 2005, 09:03 PM)
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Um….no. Crocodile beat Luffy twice before Luffy finally came back and kicked his ass...after being impaled, buried, dried out......yeah. And Luffy had to resort to using his own blood as a means to hit Croc. Croc was so not the weakest BW member, there was a damn good reason all of his underlings were afraid of him. Croco's my favorite of the villians because he's been the strongest of them so far, Eneru just couldn't compare to him in my book.
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Go Digital! :P
Now I remember! BW is the company with people like Mr. 9, and The Unluckies.
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Mr.9 could kick croc's ass any day of the week. :P
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Is this even debatable? Crocodile is most definitely the strongest member of Baroque Works. He's not the boss for nothing.
Now, weakest out of the Shichibukai? Maybe, we haven't seen them all in action yet. And judging by bounties, then yes he is (out of the known Shichibukai, anyway. The unknown may have lower bounties, though I doubt it).
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Originally posted by Solid@Apr 18 2005, 05:25 PM
Crocodile is not weak, if he is in a desert then he's unbeatable.
[snapback]33331[/snapback]desert or non desert he is one tough guy. luffy was lucky because croc killed him like twice(almost)
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this thread mean that he is weak on his power ,or his own body?
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i think its in gerneral all around
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I doubt that Sir. Crocodile is weak cuz he was actually was able to defeat the great Luffy twice…. in fact Luffy only got a chance against Eneru cuz he already had a hard experience against Crocodile... if he didn't face Crocodile, Luffy might lose against Eneru and as the old saying goes 'What does not kill you, makes you stronger' right?
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well said Monkey D Luffy. you are luffy. :D anyway if you want to know he is not the weakest for sure he is stronger then the billionares and the millionares :P
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crocodile is the strongest not the weakest.if he would be weak he wouldnt be one of the shicibukai.
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Originally posted by Monkey.D.Luffy@Apr 19 2005, 11:52 AM
I doubt that Sir. Crocodile is weak cuz he was actually was able to defeat the great Luffy twice…. in fact Luffy only got a chance against Eneru cuz he already had a hard experience against Crocodile... if he didn't face Crocodile, Luffy might lose against Eneru and as the old saying goes 'What does not kill you, makes you stronger' right?
[snapback]33935[/snapback]Totally different discussion but there´s actually no Devil Fruit attack of Enel that can actually hurt Luffy since he´s a rubber man. OK Luffy learned a lot of his fights against Crocodile, but even without that experience there´s still the fact that Enel´s power wouldn´t have worked on him either way.
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but there are more aways of diffeating a person he could have used his staff
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Originally posted by devil^^kid_@Apr 19 2005, 09:11 AM
but there are more aways of diffeating a person he could have used his staff
[snapback]34052[/snapback]Thats like tossing stones at someone after your sub-machine gun jams.
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Originally posted by Zephos+Apr 19 2005, 08:40 PM–>QUOTE(Zephos @ Apr 19 2005, 08:40 PM)
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Eners best is his ability to fry the living shit out of anybody.
So using a trton is below his capabilities. -
i get your point but still he can use a staff and im telling one stab and its over.
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I mean, he didnt do all the work…
His men were all like doing the crap for him...
But I guess that's just part of being boss, is it?
I didnt like crocodile....Though he's the one who really gave the strawhats a hard time -
eneru didnt do shit either he had all of his followers and priests do all the work and still no one would question his strenght :P
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I'm gonna have to say you're alone on that one.
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Originally posted by Ivotas+Apr 19 2005, 09:55 PM–>QUOTE(Ivotas @ Apr 19 2005, 09:55 PM)
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Originally posted by Monkey.D.Luffy+Apr 22 2005, 04:24 PM–>QUOTE(Monkey.D.Luffy @ Apr 22 2005, 04:24 PM) _> Originally posted by Ivotas@Apr 19 2005, 09:55 PM
**I doubt that Sir. Crocodile is weak cuz he was actually was able to defeat the great Luffy twice…. in fact Luffy only got a chance against Eneru cuz he already had a hard experience against Crocodile... if he didn't face Crocodile, Luffy might lose against Eneru and as the old saying goes 'What does not kill you, makes you stronger' right?
[snapback]33935[/snapback]Totally different discussion but there´s actually no Devil Fruit attack of Enel that can actually hurt Luffy since he´s a rubber man. OK Luffy learned a lot of his fights against Crocodile, but even without that experience there´s still the fact that Enel´s power wouldn´t have worked on him either way.
[snapback]34044[/snapback]**Enel's attack are not all thunder-based… he had that freakin' mantra and he was really good with that staff of his...
[snapback]35595[/snapback]my point exactly he is good with he mantra_
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Originally posted by Monkey.D.Luffy+Apr 22 2005, 02:24 PM–>QUOTE(Monkey.D.Luffy @ Apr 22 2005, 02:24 PM) _> Originally posted by Ivotas@Apr 19 2005, 09:55 PM
**I doubt that Sir. Crocodile is weak cuz he was actually was able to defeat the great Luffy twice…. in fact Luffy only got a chance against Eneru cuz he already had a hard experience against Crocodile... if he didn't face Crocodile, Luffy might lose against Eneru and as the old saying goes 'What does not kill you, makes you stronger' right?
[snapback]33935[/snapback]Totally different discussion but there´s actually no Devil Fruit attack of Enel that can actually hurt Luffy since he´s a rubber man. OK Luffy learned a lot of his fights against Crocodile, but even without that experience there´s still the fact that Enel´s power wouldn´t have worked on him either way.
[snapback]34044[/snapback]**Enel's attack are not all thunder-based… he had that freakin' mantra and he was really good with that staff of his...
[snapback]35595[/snapback]Please read the first sentence of my last post carefully and precicely again and you should get what powers I was talking about. ;)_
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Yeah, he was very weak :P.
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i never so someone take all of luffys attack like eneru. bazooka, honu and the rest he was quite amazing
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Well the higher the bounty has no meaning on a person's strength. After all just look at Foxy. He has a bounty of B24,000,000 and he's probably far stronger than Crocodile.
So just because Crocodile has a bounty of B81 million doesn't mean he's weak. After all he did practically kill Luffy 3 times. That's more than anyone else has done before skypiea.
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It all comes down to how you use your powers (just like crocodile said). You have to use them to the max and be able to fight without using them to. Foxxy was crap without his powers, Luffy is strong in the first place, the same with Crocodile. But Luffy was the only one of the Strawhats who had a chance against Crocodile, his power just fit into fighting him really well. Likewise, Luffy probably would have lost against Mr. 1 because Luffy would only be able to punch him and he would have got cut up in the process. After a little rambling, no i don't think Crocodile was weak, I think he is very strong, Luffy is just incredible.
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Originally posted by Aethos@Apr 23 2005, 12:22 AM
**Well the higher the bounty has no meaning on a person's strength. After all just look at Foxy. He has a bounty of B24,000,000 and he's probably far stronger than Crocodile.So just because Crocodile has a bounty of B81 million doesn't mean he's weak. After all he did practically kill Luffy 3 times. That's more than anyone else has done before skypiea.
[snapback]35832[/snapback]**crocodile is stronger then foxy. foxy is like nothing compared to croc.
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Originally posted by devil^^kid+Apr 22 2005, 09:09 PM–>QUOTE(devil^^kid @ Apr 22 2005, 09:09 PM)
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i think thats what most people including me think but sometimes i dont think so are you saying that buggy is the weakest in one piece. i think foxy was an exception but without his tricks and all that what can he do against croc.
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Actually Alvida without the Sube Sube fruit was the weakest. Buggy isn't exactly strong either but you never know but with the more Luffy grows in strength it's obvious that he goes up against stronger foes not weaker one's.
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Originally posted by RoboBlue@Apr 18 2005, 04:42 PM
Mr.9 could kick croc's ass any day of the week. :P
[snapback]33544[/snapback]Mr. 9 was the coolest. _
As for Foxy.. I don't think he really counts as a major villain… after all, at the end, parted ways semi hospitably. When I think major villains, I think the ones that are tormenting towns, cities, whole islands... and end up near dead at the end.
That's just my opinion, of course.
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Originally posted by Konis+Apr 22 2005, 09:40 PM–>QUOTE(Konis @ Apr 22 2005, 09:40 PM)
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CrI think CRoc couldnt even pack punch!!!
He just relied too much on his devil fruit…He really is low... -
Then why could he keep standing up after getting hit by Luffy so many times? He used his hook to his advantage, too. He's not inexperienced in combat.
He won't be Mr. 0 if he's the "weakest". Aycee, is it necessary to open a new thread for everything?
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Originally posted by changsho@Apr 23 2005, 11:01 AM
**Then why could he keep standing up after getting hit by Luffy so many times? He used his hook to his advantage, too. He's not inexperienced in combat.He won't be Mr. 0 if he's the "weakest". Aycee, is it necessary to open a new thread for everything?
[snapback]35946[/snapback]**See!! You said he relied on his hook!!
You never mentioned anything about a punch!!
Yeah, maybe he is battle experience, but look how he relied on his hook!
And his devil fruit gift…
Not like smoker or ace and stuff... -
Although Smoker's probably the only one that Luffy CAN'T beat though since Luffy doesn't have a strategy against smoke.
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Originally posted by PortgasDeAycee+Apr 23 2005, 03:08 PM–>QUOTE(PortgasDeAycee @ Apr 23 2005, 03:08 PM)
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Originally posted by Aethos@Apr 23 2005, 03:16 AM
**If that were true wouldn't Luffy have fought Foxy before Crocodile? After all the scale of villians seems to go from the weakest to the strongest. It'd be weird if Luffy faced a strong opponent like Crocodile and Eneru and then went to fight a weak opponent like Foxy.That's proof that Foxy is possibly just as strong if not a little bit stronger than Crocodile and Eneru.
[snapback]35914[/snapback]**Actually no. It is yet another proof that Oda is a genuis and doesn´t follow the next guy´s stronger then the one before pattern. If we go by Luffy, then Crocodile was the toughest advirsary so far. True Enel and Crocodile might be in the same league compared to each other, but compared to Luffy Enel is not that much of a problem as Crocodile.
And Foxy is even weaker then those two guys. Just because he appears later it doesn´t mean that he´s stronger. It is just another method of Oda to not make One Piece repetative. I mean there´s not only Shichibukai, Admiral Supremes and Whitebeard/Shanks on the Grand Line. There also must be other people who are not as strong and it´s actually refreshing to see that the Strawhats meet those guys too.
Between a mayor arc there´s always a little either side or introduction arc which makes us as reader and viewer take a deep breath before we go to the next big thing. Just imagine that the Strawhats would have gotten directly to Skypia after Alabasta without Jaya in between. It would have been to much to fast. But with Jaya we had time to prepare for the next big thing.
And since I´m on the Jaya topic, would you then consider Bellemy stronger as Crocodile too? After all he appears later though he just has a bounty of 52.000.000 Berry. ;)
Get what I mean? Foxy is the breath catcher between Skypia and Water 7. It was a sports event arc and not a fight for the wealth of an island arc.
