I've seen a lot of topic discussions that lead to this, "reality has a huge factor in what happens in one piece" me personally, think not…. I am a ferm believer of OP manga and our reality are totally different, and the things that make since here, doesnt make since in OP and vise versa. If you think it does i really believe you are just being repugnant, and hoping that reality has some hold over the OP world..... Which is obsurd..
How do you feel about it?
One Piece Manga…... Reality?
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I feel you need to go outside and get a nice big whiff of reality, then come back and re-read what you just said.
Weird, I was warned not to reply to spambots. Are you a spambot?
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I feel you need to go outside and get a nice big whiff of reality, then come back and re-read what you just said.
Weird, I was warned not to reply to spambots. Are you a spambot?
I was warned not to respond to idiots. This is clearly not spam, this has been argued in many threads…. Ipzie hahaha that name needs.... haha nvm just be smart and dont get on my idiot list, thats one mark against you all ready 2 more and your on the list
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Fantasy always draws from reality. If it didn't it would be completely incomprehensible. In the case of OP it's very obvious where some of these influences show up. Pirates come from the real world romantic ideal of pirates. Marines come from the same. The WG is based on the idea of a super state.
If we want to look at direct inspirations then here are a few.
Bartholomew Bear: At least from what we have seen so far has been based on the pirate Bartholomew Roberts http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartholomew_Roberts
Marine Ranks: the navy
Rubber beats lightning: Real world folk physics.
The Den Den Mushi: Phones
The Jolly Roger: the real world pirate symbol
Now from other myths and stories that have their basis in the real world:
Crocodile: Based on Captain Hook.
The Davy Back Fight: Davey Jones is a real mythical figure. The exact origins of the myth are unknown however.
The Sky Knight's Horse: Pegasus, it was a parody of it.
Without a basis of comparison understanding something isn't possible, and as such it ends up just being bad. Now last I checked OP didn't read like, "Org blarged Burn brumping Burn's brapped bram." Instead we have the pirate Blackbeard who has gained a super power about to fight another character with a different super power. The exact forms of these powers are unknown, but they are still within the realm of reason. Is this fight symbolic of the constant Japanese / Chinese conflict over the teaching of the WWII atrocities Japan committed? Nope, it has nothing to do with that, but that doesn't mean it has no basis in reality at all.
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well, if you know anything about theoretical physics you may know there are theories that we are just one universe in a infinite sea of parallel universes that could have very different laws of physics…
since infinity is, well, infinite, one could reason that somewhere there is a universe where the goings-on that happen in one piece are entirely plausible.
but i doubt it
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@was_fired:
Fantasy always draws from reality. If it didn't it would be completely incomprehensible. In the case of OP it's very obvious where some of these influences show up. Pirates come from the real world romantic ideal of pirates. Marines come from the same. The WG is based on the idea of a super state.
If we want to look at direct inspirations then here are a few.
Bartholomew Bear: At least from what we have seen so far has been based on the pirate Bartholomew Roberts http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartholomew_Roberts
Marine Ranks: the navy
Rubber beats lightning: Real world folk physics.
The Den Den Mushi: Phones
The Jolly Roger: the real world pirate symbol
Now from other myths and stories that have their basis in the real world:
Crocodile: Based on Captain Hook.
The Davy Back Fight: Davey Jones is a real mythical figure. The exact origins of the myth are unknown however.
The Sky Knight's Horse: Pegasus, it was a parody of it.
Without a basis of comparison understanding something isn't possible, and as such it ends up just being bad. Now last I checked OP didn't read like, "Org blarged Burn brumping Burn's brapped bram." Instead we have the pirate Blackbeard who has gained a super power about to fight another character with a different super power. The exact forms of these powers are unknown, but they are still within the realm of reason. Is this fight symbolic of the constant Japanese / Chinese conflict over the teaching of the WWII atrocities Japan committed? Nope, it has nothing to do with that, but that doesn't mean it has no basis in reality at all.
This makes a lot of scene…... However, This is slightly off topic, I'm talking about Physics and that kind of crap...... OP world is totally different from our world... And for the record lightning can melt rubber..
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@Final:
I've seen a lot of topic discussions that lead to this, "reality has a huge factor in what happens in one piece" me personally, think not…. I am a ferm believer of OP manga and our reality are totally different, and the things that make since here, doesnt make since in OP and vise versa. If you think it does i really believe you are just being repugnant, and hoping that reality has some hold over the OP world..... Which is obsurd..
How do you feel about it?I know that you're referring to the whole Enel discussion where Poly and FFA said that Enels attacks are stronger when he's ground level since it contains more air. Some stuff in One Piece are based on reality but not everything. Enel couldn't hurt Luffy because he is rubber which is normal. But I'm not sure if the rubber would melt in reality. Usopp also used a gas dial and he threw something burning into it and the the whole place blowed up. I guess that would be possible in reality too. I think that it's a mix of both: reality and fantasy. But I think it's fun to speculate things based on reality and you can;t deny that Oda does put a lot of time to research for One Piece.
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I know that you're referring to the whole Enel discussion where Poly and FFA said that Enels attacks are stronger when he's ground level since it contains more air. Some stuff in One Piece are based on reality but not everything. Enel couldn't hurt Luffy because he is rubber which is normal. But I'm not sure if the rubber would melt in reality. Usopp also used a gas dial and he threw something burning into it and the the whole place blowed up. I guess that would be possible in reality too. I think that it's a mix of both: reality and fantasy. But I think it's fun to speculate things based on reality and you can;t deny that Oda does put a lot of time to research for One Piece.
Well not just that thread…. Their are others..... Rubber can melt/burn...
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@Final:
Well not just that thread…. Their are others..... Rubber can melt/burn...
I totally agree with you that the Physics in our world is different that in the Op world. But still, there are many similarities.
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Wow, what a carwreck thread.
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I totally agree with you that the Physics in our world is different that in the Op world. But still, there are many similarities.
Very true! But the keyword in your post is similarities.
@Zephas: …...............
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What?
16 candles
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why is this even discussed? at LEAST the very basic of reality must be included. the question is to what extent beyond the basic the manga writer includes it. i'm a firm believer that if Croc fought Eneru, fulgurite or some form of rock would result from the energy clashing with teh sand. i already made an argument for that, and i'll say it again. Oda borrows from reality, as other shounen writers do, quite a lot. a few examples:
1. it's almost common sense that rubber insulates electricity
2. friction does induce heat and energy (sanji's devil leg)
3. metal objects held in high areas would ground lightning (buggy at loguetown)there's more but you get the picture. anyone who says "OP is it's own world! it doesn't relate to ours, and I don't care about that reality crap!" is a moron, excuse the rudeness.
if Croc fought Eneru, do you think Oda will say "well..lightning clashes with sand, but I don't know what really happens when that happens so I'll just make shit up. i'll make mountains form, volcanoes erupt, and raccoons being born out of the sludge that's a byproduct of the eruptions." you believe that? you believe he wouldn't look up what would happen if he didn't already know, but instead just make shit up?now before anyone scream, "yea well in real life rubbert would melt from the lightning and you can't jump 50 feet into the air or cut buildings in half with your nose", think a little. it's obvious rubber would melt, it's obvious friction doesn't provide sufficient heat to maintain Sanji's technique. but it's a manga, this is the fictitious side of it. there are also limits to how close he can get to reality before he can't get any closer (or manga wouldn't work). instead of a shounen it'd be a shoujo or something in that case.
1 more thing, there must be limits and rules in a world, and what better limits than ones we already know and can relate to? that's why what i stated as numbered examples works. here's more stuff that are limits
1. blood/wounds; wounds also require time to heal and impairs fighting ability
2. stamina & pain
3. gravity
4. emotions
5. water behaving the way it does, land, sky, sun, moon
6. ships -> ie, can sink, float,requires sails, etc
these are SOME to list. these are the OP realities that are identical (almost) to real reality. if they are sufficiently wounded, they will either faint or die. if the ships have a hole in them, they will sink. get the picture? it does relate to the real world, a huge amount.SUMMARY:
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The quick and easy answer is Oda bends the rules here and there.
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The quick and easy answer is Oda bends the rules here and there.
that's assuming you hold the belief that OP has a very strong tie to the real world. arguing with these people who hold just the opposite belief, there is no quick and easy solution unless you do a decisive statement with examples.
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The quick and easy answer is Oda bends the rules here and there.
Truer words have never been spoken. And geez folks, this is all that needs to be said.
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why is this even discussed? at LEAST the very basic of reality must be included. the question is to what extent beyond the basic the manga writer includes it. i'm a firm believer that if Croc fought Eneru, fulgurite or some form of rock would result from the energy clashing with teh sand. i already made an argument for that, and i'll say it again. Oda borrows from reality, as other shounen writers do, quite a lot. a few examples:
1. it's almost common sense that rubber insulates electricity
2. friction does induce heat and energy (sanji's devil leg)
3. metal objects held in high areas would ground lightning (buggy at loguetown)there's more but you get the picture. anyone who says "OP is it's own world! it doesn't relate to ours, and I don't care about that reality crap!" is a moron, excuse the rudeness.
if Croc fought Eneru, do you think Oda will say "well..lightning clashes with sand, but I don't know what really happens when that happens so I'll just make shit up. i'll make mountains form, volcanoes erupt, and raccoons being born out of the sludge that's a byproduct of the eruptions." you believe that? you believe he wouldn't look up what would happen if he didn't already know, but instead just make shit up?now before anyone scream, "yea well in real life rubbert would melt from the lightning and you can't jump 50 feet into the air or cut buildings in half with your nose", think a little. it's obvious rubber would melt, it's obvious friction doesn't provide sufficient heat to maintain Sanji's technique. but it's a manga, this is the fictitious side of it. there are also limits to how close he can get to reality before he can't get any closer (or manga wouldn't work). instead of a shounen it'd be a shoujo or something in that case.
1 more thing, there must be limits and rules in a world, and what better limits than ones we already know and can relate to? that's why what i stated as numbered examples works. here's more stuff that are limits
1. blood/wounds; wounds also require time to heal and impairs fighting ability
2. stamina & pain
3. gravity
4. emotions
5. water behaving the way it does, land, sky, sun, moon
6. ships -> ie, can sink, float,requires sails, etc
these are SOME to list. these are the OP realities that are identical (almost) to real reality. if they are sufficiently wounded, they will either faint or die. if the ships have a hole in them, they will sink. get the picture? it does relate to the real world, a huge amount.SUMMARY:
i don't agree with what you said at all. the 2 worlds are tied together and relate quite closely in a certain light.I agree with you on some points however, heres something in OP that really doesnt make since in our world….
1. Electricity cant melt rubber..... (which it can in our world)
2. Blood has no limit (Just watch the Croc versus Luffy fight)
3. The Moon has air (Enel breathing on the moon)
4. You live after getting frozen to death. ( As you can see in the AOkiji and SH pirate fight)
5. Smoke cant smoother fire (which in our world can) -
well, if you know anything about theoretical physics you may know there are theories that we are just one universe in a infinite sea of parallel universes that could have very different laws of physics…
since infinity is, well, infinite, one could reason that somewhere there is a universe where the goings-on that happen in one piece are entirely plausible.
but i doubt it
You need to post in this thread…
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@ OneInchPunch
I could not agree more.
To me in the world of OP the rules are exagerated but DERIVED from what would happen in our world. Its taken to extremes yes but the fundamental application is usually still there to give an explanation. If the fundamental application was not there then it would seem like he is just making up random things like children would do. Also I find it that because there is some science behind the OP world it makes it all that more interesting (even if it would never happen in our world). I hope I don't sound stupid saying this but when I was in elementary school I would sometimes daydream that I had superpowers (like in DBZ) and when I learned of some common science I would incorporate these things into my daydreams. Although I don't do that now the fact that Oda does is what makes OP more fascinating for me.
I hope I was clear in what i said…
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I don't think it matters whether One Piece is based on reality because the reason I read it is for its fantasy element. I'm too sick of the limitations of reality to care whether devil fruits should even be allowed to exist.
Oh, and to draw relevance to the topic at hand, I disagree a little that One Piece doesn't draw references from real scientific facts. True that a lot of things are exaggerated, but things like Luffy's Gears, the Keel being the most important part of a boat, Luffy defeated Enel simply because he is Enel's natural enemy etc are based on real world scientifics.
I'm not saying that ALL are (like Tekkai, Soru and Geppou are just dreams come true), but in forum threads, it just makes things much simpler to draw evidences from the real world to add substance to your arguments. Oda probably won't draw up a background information sheet as extensive as Tolkien did, answering queries only when they are given to him, and as such we can only rely on personal knowledge to argue some of the fantasy elements.
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Wowwwww.
We really need an early spoiler, the new threads that are popping up are just getting worse and worse.
Obviously fantasy borrows from reality, as it's impossible for someone to not experience any part of reality, and then somehow communicate their fantasy to the reality they've never experienced. Unless maybe they're insane, but then they would not know language and therefore would be unable to communicate it. Reality is EVERYONE'S point of reference, it's impossible not to draw from it when creating a fantasy.
There, are we done now?
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@Final:
I am a ferm believer of OP manga and our reality are totally different, and the things that make since here, doesnt make since in OP and vise versa. If you think it does i really believe you are just being repugnant, and hoping that reality has some hold over the OP world….. Which is obsurd..
How do you feel about it?You do need a big whiff of reality, spambot.
If Oda gets hit by a truck and dies, it changes OP. So reality does have a hold on the manga.
ONE PIECE…. It tames the savage geek.
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Not trying to make enemies here, okay? Okay.
Some things in One Piece are based on reality. A lot of things are exaggerated. For example, the conductive properties of rubber were greatly exaggerated. You are right, in reality, Luffy's rubber body would have been overloaded by Enel's charge. Robin should have died when her internal fluids coagulated, etc, etc.
But some things aren't exaggerated. Is it so hard to believe that there's an atmosphere on the moon? All the Galilean moons orbiting Jupiter have atmospheres, and what's more, some of them have an internal layer of ice (No surface water, that would mean life actually existed on these moons, which is false).
Some things oda actually goes to explain. For example, bullets don't pierce Luffy because the guns are flintlocks and not rifled, Gear 2 works by Luffy force pumping his blood and creating an andrenaline effect. And so on. And some things are greatly exaggerated, like Zoro bleeding more than a bovine slaughterhouse, and people being able to lift four ton objects.
But some things do follow reality. Usopp can't pull an ICBM out of his ass. Luffy can't travel through time. Nami can't shoot lasers out of her nipples.
It's a different reality, yes. But if we want to speculate about impossible science, don't bash us, let us. It's not your right to criticize others for what they believe. You can offer your opinion, but it's rude to insult the opinion of others.
In short, we don't insult your opinion, don't insult ours. I know that the Science in One Piece is greatly exaggerated, but there are some rules of reality that are followed. That's why we speculate.
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The world of OP completely reflects on Oda's creativity and his wacky physics. And lets not forget that it is fiction. And why is this posted in the manga forum> This should be in the General Discussions, so that it will attract attention
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**ONEinchPUNCH wins.
Most of OP is exxagerated reality. and I'd like to add that about the rubber-electricity, no one seems to remember that Luffy is living rubber. His luscles are tough. His muscles are rubbber.**
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@Final:
I agree with you on some points however, heres something in OP that really doesnt make since in our world….
1. Electricity cant melt rubber..... (which it can in our world)
2. Blood has no limit (Just watch the Croc versus Luffy fight)
3. The Moon has air (Enel breathing on the moon)
4. You live after getting frozen to death. ( As you can see in the AOkiji and SH pirate fight)
5. Smoke cant smoother fire (which in our world can)there's a paragraph in the middle of my thorough and infallible argument which says that certain aspects of reality have to be slightly changed for the sake of the shounen manga. if you can't understand that paragraph well i'll summarize it.
that stuff was exaggerated, but exaggeration is different from fabrication. it's based on our reality but if luffy melted and if smoker killed ace, well then OP would be a lot duller. that's an understatement.
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for everyone who just came in here to say "LOL OBVIOUSLY IT BORROWS FROM REALITY. DUH." i'm really sick of that since there are like 9 of those and there's no need to keep restating stupid shit. at least provide a found argument or what's the point of this thread or discussion in general? -
As many people on this thread have pointed out One Piece doesn't follow the science of our world perfectly. The science of One Piece is based on modern day folk science plus a bit of heroic power. For a quick definition check out wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folk_science . If your not willing to look or want another explanation folk science is our common sense ideas of how the world works without use of research or calculations and without any serious training. An average person can look at a thin sheet a balsa wood and say that it can't support a 100 gallon fish tank because it's common sense. Now odds are they couldn't tell you where they could put one in their house without causing structural damage since that is beyond the limits of folk science. Folk science usually just tells us that the floor is strong enough to support most things, but really heavy stuff can break it. How heavy is really heavy? Dunno that requires real science.
In OP we see this happening all the time. Luffy lifts a huge gold ball and runs with it. How much does it weigh? A lot, but that's okay cause Luffy is REALLY strong. Since he is carrying it nothing else does so he can ride the waver without any problem. It's classic folk science, and makes for a good read.
Is folk science true? Nope, but it's good enough to get us around in our daily lives and takes a lot less time than real science. Do we use both on a routine basis? Yep. Is it possible that some day folk science will be completely replaced by real science? Dunno that's a question philosophers have been bickering about for ages.
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for everyone who just came in here to say "LOL OBVIOUSLY IT BORROWS FROM REALITY. DUH." i'm really sick of that since there are like 9 of those and there's no need to keep restating stupid shit. at least provide a found argument or what's the point of this thread or discussion in general?I know OP borrows from Reality, I never did say it didnt…. All i'm saying is some people on this forum (not saying any names) base to much that goes on in OP to our reality, they try to explain the impossible with our understanding.
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Congratulations!!!!
This is the most inane discussion of the week!
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Totally different? No. Bending it here and there like oneINCHpunch said? Yes.
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@Fire Fist:
1. Some things oda actually goes to explain. For example, bullets don't pierce Luffy because the guns are flintlocks and not rifled, Gear 2 works by Luffy force pumping his blood and creating an andrenaline effect. And so on. And some things are greatly exaggerated, like Zoro bleeding more than a bovine slaughterhouse, and people being able to lift four ton objects.
2. But some things do follow reality. Usopp can't pull an ICBM out of his ass. Luffy can't travel through time. Nami can't shoot lasers out of her nipples.
3. It's a different reality, yes. But if we want to speculate about impossible science, don't bash us, let us. It's not your right to criticize others for what they believe. You can offer your opinion, but it's rude to insult the opinion of others.
In short, we don't insult your opinion, don't insult ours. I know that the Science in One Piece is greatly exaggerated, but there are some rules of reality that are followed. That's why we speculate.
I am not picking on you here, you just had some examples that I thought I could use.
1. The bullet reflection, gear 2, and so on are things that work in one piece. They work in one piece no matter whether we understand them or not. You see enough bullets bounce off of luffy and you make the assumption that he is impervious to bullets rifled or not. You see his gear 2 trick you think it is just his body emitting steam in some way that makes him faster and stronger. To work in the story, they never needed an explanation. But when an explanation is given, it comes from the writer. The explanation does not need to have anything to do with logic or real science. Everyone here seems to be a dbz fan, look at that series. How did goku attain SS1? Well its a special sayan thing. Bam done. If there was some scientific explanation, it would not actually make the form any neater for the audience.
2. You assume that Ussop can't pull an icbm out of his ass, that luffy cannot travel through time, and nami cannot shoot lasers out of her nipples but if the writer wanted to, he would find a way to make it happen with or without explanations like those he used for luffy's gear 2 trick. Perhaps its a devil fruit, perhaps ussop created a miniature icbm using dials. That last one should not be said so carelessly. What happens when ussop gets his powerup and is shooting missiles? will you take all this back?
3. So he can have his opinion and express it as long as his opinion isn't that fan theories are stupid? Sounds like you are limiting his right to have an opinion and express it. Fan theories are just that, fan fiction. They do not relate to the story in any real or universal way, and are just ways for people to expend their imaginative energy. Fan theories do not deserve respect though. Sure you guys can have your theories, but don't act like they are correct. These theories are just what you guys want to be true.
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**I'm surprised by how rigid people are nowadays. It's as if thinking about the possibility of something in any given series that the author has not expanded on, is some kind of unforgivible crime.
What hapened to the good old days? When one could speculate without being shot at?**
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Gone.
You are clinging to them like a 3 year old to a teddy bear.
Now, STOP IT.
ONE PIECE…. It tames the savage geek.
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**I'm surprised by how rigid people are nowadays. It's as if thinking about the possibility of something in any given series that the author has not expanded on, is some kind of unforgivible crime.
What hapened to the good old days? When one could speculate without being shot at?**
Bellemy said it didnt he, "the era of speculation is over, the era of strong posters will survive"
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Gone.
You are clinging to them like a 3 year old to a teddy bear.
Now, STOP IT.
I can dream. .
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@Final:
Bellemy said it didnt he, "the era of speculation is over, the era of strong posters will survive"
Since when are people who speculate not strong posters?
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I am not picking on you here, you just had some examples that I thought I could use.
1. The bullet reflection, gear 2, and so on are things that work in one piece. They work in one piece no matter whether we understand them or not. You see enough bullets bounce off of luffy and you make the assumption that he is impervious to bullets rifled or not. You see his gear 2 trick you think it is just his body emitting steam in some way that makes him faster and stronger. To work in the story, they never needed an explanation. But when an explanation is given, it comes from the writer. The explanation does not need to have anything to do with logic or real science. Everyone here seems to be a dbz fan, look at that series. How did goku attain SS1? Well its a special sayan thing. Bam done. If there was some scientific explanation, it would not actually make the form any neater for the audience.
Some things can't be explained. However, that does not change that Fantasy is The fact that we are reading a fantasy manga means that there won't be explanations for everything according to our reality. Devil's Fruits. Shank's Ambition power.
But to those who enjoy speculation as part of their reading experience, let them be. Even if they're wrong when the time comes that Oda or any author chooses to bend reality, there's no reason that's a bad thing. However, if they back their theory with little evidence either from the story or reality itself, then we have a problem. With such inconclusive evidence from anything, or dismissing what we already know from reality, anything is up in the air.
2. You assume that Ussop can't pull an icbm out of his ass, that luffy cannot travel through time, and nami cannot shoot lasers out of her nipples but if the writer wanted to, he would find a way to make it happen with or without explanations like those he used for luffy's gear 2 trick. Perhaps its a devil fruit, perhaps ussop created a miniature icbm using dials. That last one should not be said so carelessly. What happens when ussop gets his powerup and is shooting missiles? will you take all this back?
That is the will of the author. It may be possible, and if Oda chooses to throw (albeit lame imo) twists like that, that's fine. But at this point, in order to speculate, there's no evidence leading to such.
3. So he can have his opinion and express it as long as his opinion isn't that fan theories are stupid? Sounds like you are limiting his right to have an opinion and express it. Fan theories are just that, fan fiction. They do not relate to the story in any real or universal way, and are just ways for people to expend their imaginative energy. Fan theories do not deserve respect though. Sure you guys can have your theories, but don't act like they are correct. These theories are just what you guys want to be true.
As long as they are backed up by evidence, that's fine. But when you just come up with it just off the top of your head, with no evidence, it is in no way a theory. It's just a shot in the dark.
They could be right. Reality bends here or there. But it's a random guess based on nothing but what that person thought up in a couple seconds.
Of course, speculation isn't just about reality on its own. It also consists of looking for hints the author leaves around in the story. Example: Luffy hurting Croc in Round one after some water dripped onto Croc's arm. Those hints, foreshadowing, are evidence on their own of something that could possibly happen.
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A MAN'S DREAM WILL NEVER END!!!!!!!
Only if you don't fight Luffy, "Destroyer of Dreams"
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@Final:
I know OP borrows from Reality, I never did say it didnt…. All i'm saying is some people on this forum (not saying any names) base to much that goes on in OP to our reality, they try to explain the impossible with our understanding.
Which is why i say OP world is totally different from ours....hm you know that wasn't directed at you. that part was directed at people like SteveRessel. that part of what i posted actually adopts a malicious tone so I'm sorry if i offended you, but you just misinterperted my words.
and to SteveRessel, why don't you get the fuck out then if you just came in to insult those who actually have solid things to say? no one asked you to come in, and in fact it's better you never fuckin participated since you find it enjoyable to contribute nothing and insult the rest of us instead.
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No need to be angry guys, it's a simple discussion. Jeez, Why is everybody so tight-assed around here lately?
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SteveRessel, why don't you get the fuck out then if you just came in to insult those who actually have solid things to say? no one asked you to come in, and in fact it's better you never fuckin participated since you find it enjoyable to contribute nothing and insult the rest of us instead.
Who can make the sun shine?
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man, this thread is getting really out of hand.
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@Le:
Since when are people who speculate not strong posters?
When speculations are not backed up with facts!!!
Not saying you dont know what speculation means, but some people on this forum need to look up the meaning the start speculating.@mercutius: Fair enough….. Oh and i was about to say something along those lines to SteveRessel as well. Thanks 4 picking up my slack
@gaara D. Lucci: Because we dont wanna be so loose in the booty like yourself.
@krnxAJa: LMAO
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@Final:
When speculations are not backed up with facts!!!
Not saying you dont know what speculation means, but some people on this forum need to look up the meaning the start speculating.@mercutius: Fair enough….. Oh and i was about to say something along those lines to SteveRessel as well. Thanks 4 picking up my slack
@gaara D. Lucci: Because we dont wanna be so loose in the booty like yourself.
@krnxAJa: LMAO
That was an expression. Besides, Gaara doesn't swing that way, I'm straight like a perm. Now you on the other hand…............
Brawl FC: 3823 8204 8139
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That was an expression. Besides, Gaara doesn't swing that way, I'm straight like a perm. Now you on the other hand…............
With you last post, i'm not to sure about you…
But back on topic.... Fantesy does mean anything can happen yes Ussop can pull a M80 outta his ass if he wanted to, yes Luffy can fly if he wanted to, because its manga/fantesy... Go get a dictonary people and look up that word
