Also the Shandians were very knowledgeable about DF's. More then most actually. Laki knew right away after hearing from Kamikari that Enel had the Lightning fruit. Wiper knew right away after seeing Luffy he was a Paramecia. I thought that was kinda cool.
In the hierarchy of Blue Seas, how high Eneru would be?
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Enel would probably straight up F stuff up on the blue sea. Well, as long as he stays out of the New World given its reputation.
Destroying islands, Maxim, that hax mantra, and his knowledge over his powers on getting the best affect (lightning produces extreme heat-who woulda thunk?) There are just so many ways he could cause quite a wrinkle in the blue seas, hence his astronomical 500 million bounty.
Could you imagine him with maxim floating in the stratosphere, hurling thunderbolts as he pleases? Don't forget his aiming is quite impeccable giving that mantra ability of his. Definitely someone who'd require the very top dogs of the WG or maybe even an emperor to take down from what we've seen so far.
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I dont get it. Being a Rubberman only means luffy wont be hurt by electricity, i dont understand why Rubber can hit electricity. I think it's easier to hit smoke than electricity.
Same goes with wood, rock, lead and all other non-conductor or poor-conductor, they are not suppose to be able to penetrate electricity which is not solid
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Well it's OP logics right there .
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In anger, he might kill a few nakama or two, so I guess no one would want to join his crew.
Mmmm… nope. The Priests, Yama, and the Enforcers would make up his crew.
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Luffy said he wouldn't last in the GL, but I think he'd own.
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@Impel:
Luffy said he wouldn't last in the GL, but I think he'd own.
Despite Oda's words.
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Oh yeah, Eneru would get killed within 5-minutes.
/Sarcasm\
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Not every word Luffy sais about enel is what oda thinks about enel, but often it's Luffy's biased opinion, him being rubber he doesn't fear enel at all.
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The stuff about a led bullet would kill enel reminds me of the Robin bit where she threw water at croc… If Croc could doge that, a led bullet would be nothing to Enel.
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What with Mantra and all that. I honestly think that Enel would p4wn WB.
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I don't think so^^
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Despite Oda's words.
that's luffy's words, not oda's.. luffy is not a narrtor in the story. Each characters in OP has their own opinon. Luffy said enel is nothing in the blue seas, enel thinks he's will one of the best. Both r Oda's words, so who's right?
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that's luffy's words, not oda's.. luffy is not a narrtor in the story. Each characters in OP has their own opinon. Luffy said enel is nothing in the blue seas, enel thinks he's will one of the best. Both r Oda's words, so who's right?
Still Enel has never been to the blue seas. Luffy most likely has an indication of the higher powers in the blue seas. His grandpa is Garp, and there are some theories of who trained Luffy.
Nevertheless I think Enel would have been easily one of the strongest in the first part of the grandline.
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that is was luffy say ,(a rubberman)…..and so eneru is nothing instead of adm. aokiji which he meet just right after it and before luffy thought on shanks or his brother which have more power than eneru in luffys eyes...
But just for luffy eneru is a enemy which he can handle easy cause enerus most powerful attacks havent any consequences for luffy so for him it wasnt that powerful fighter ....which eneru really isnt but his logia is for every other person the death----just a few logiacharas have really a chance against him...so BB or ace i could think and maybe aokiji(mhh ice is water so maybe not lol)= -
Enel could never reach 500M bounty, if he ever does get a bounty.
To wipe [sp?] his desire to go to the moon is kinda acceptable, but you can't take his desire to rule that moon or for that matter the world he's in.
He'll immediately [sp?…] go after world domination, and be crushed pretty fast with it. No?He'll never see anyone as weaker than him and will never quit adventuring the GL to rule those weak damned Blue Seas, he'll go after Raftel.
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eneru sees himself as a god without the dreams of normal human…..so he dont want to be the pirateking or get to raftel...#
he wants to have his own kingdom the (vairy wearth---dont now the spelling right now...hope you now what i mean) and so he fly to the moon ---to the prisen country which is only for gods to reach----so God stand above the normal human world -
@Don:
eneru sees himself as a god without the dreams of normal human…..so he dont want to be the pirateking or get to raftel...#
he wants to have his own kingdom the (vairy wearth---dont now the spelling right now...hope you now what i mean) and so he fly to the moon ---to the prisen country which is only for gods to reach----so God stand above the normal human worldThat's exactly what I said. When you take that desire to get to the moon and put him and the Blue Seas, Raftel will replace it since it's the only option to be an official God. Like, a boxing champion won't be a champion without the belt. And so he'll be crushed.
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that's luffy's words, not oda's.. luffy is not a narrtor in the story. Each characters in OP has their own opinon. Luffy said enel is nothing in the blue seas, enel thinks he's will one of the best. Both r Oda's words, so who's right?
I wasn't talkin about Luffy, I was talking about Oda. As in Oda's exact words in an SBS.
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Yeah.
Question!! If God Ener were to descend to the Blue Sea, how much would his bounty be?
Also, what would happen if he did that? Would he rule the Blue Sea?
P.N. Gorozoro
O: I see. Interesting question. Knowing how tricky he would be to beat, I'd imagine he could
reach as much as 500 million. Luffy was lucky to be rubber. But like Luffy said, there
all sorts of even crazier guys down on the Blue Sea. Ener would NOT rule it.So was this really not brought up before?
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@Impel:
What with Mantra and all that. I honestly think that Enel would p4wn WB.
Whitebeard is the Strongest Man in the World!!!
Also look at what Cap'n Carter posted. Ener would get his %*#@ kicked in the Blue seas. Also take note on how Oda Eiichiro himself quotes Luffy when talking about Ener.
Their are plenty of guys who would rape Ener!!!!!
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I dare anyone here to name 5 OP charecters, sans Luffy, who could beat Enel and then put about 1-2 sentences as to why.
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1. Whitebeard - Strongest man in the world
2. Aokiji - He could just Freeze Enel
3. Blackbeard - Absorb Enel's lightning, get close and negate his DF
4. Smoker w/ Seastone Sword - Self explantory
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@Impel:
I dare anyone here to name 5 OP charecters, sans Luffy, who could beat Enel and then put about 1-2 sentences as to why.
Whitebeard- Strongest Man in the World
Mihawk- Strongest Swordsman in the World
Blackbeard- Yami powers
Shanks-Rivaled Mihawk and currently fighting Whiteebard
Aokiji- Strongest AdmiralI can name others that would knock Ener back up stream but those should do!
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Whitebeard- Strongest Man in the World
Mihawk- Strongest Swordsman in the World
Blackbeard- Yami powers
Shanks-Rivaled Mihawk and currently fighting Whiteebard
Aokiji- Strongest AdmiralI can name others that would knock Ener back up stream but those should do!
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dragon: most wanted person alive (also he controlled thunder,rain and wind in loguetown so he might be an all logia type of DF,anyway he can control thunder too or lightning,call it how you want,so eneru propably can't hurt him)
sengoku: in 3 words,marine supreme admiral
about aokiji it is tricky,i guess apart from his logia powers he might have a way to beat other logia like WB or other characters propably have
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Ya Enel won't stand a chance again the top tier guys.
Still though Enel can cause quite the ruckus. He was planning to obliterate Skypia and that reminded me alot of the Buster Call. The Buster Call is still more brutal but I think Enel can still accomplish the same task.
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Well, from what I can recall Angel Island was completely obliterated. Buster Call is more or less just setting the island ablaze. So I would consider Raigoh to be more destructive overall.
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well the clouds above the island were too close to enel so i think that enel in east blue would have to go very high above with maxim to control and form the raigou and then the raigou would take a century to hit it's target while the buster call is quicker than pizza delivery!!!
i vote the BC! it's quick and ecological while the raigou polutes the atmosphere!
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speaking of which I wonder terrifying Mihawk would be compared to the Buster call
I mean he cut down a battleship with the flick of his wrist and I doubt he did it close up too. I have a feeling it was a sort of "energy" attack.
So if he started rampaging… well I dont think the BC would be able to stand a chance either...
Boy i have a knack of going off topic...
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@Kma:
speaking of which I wonder terrifying Mihawk would be compared to the Buster call
I mean he cut down a battleship with the flick of his wrist and I doubt he did it close up too. I have a feeling it was a sort of "energy" attack.
So if he started rampaging… well I dont think the BC would be able to stand a chance either...
Boy i have a knack of going off topic...
lol,you too? well i think mihawk propably can handle the BC easily
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Eneru-sama would be probably be on the same level as the Yonkou, as Oda himself said his bounty would be 500 million.
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Ener…..a World power candidate? Bwhhahwhahwhahwhhahahahahahahaha (laughing and farting)!
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Fart as much you want but truth is that Eneru is in at least in Shichibukais level.
And because you don't like him, you can't stand it.
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@AD-HD:
Fart as much you want but truth is that Eneru is in at least in Shichibukais level.
And because you don't like him, you can't stand it.
If he is a Shichibukai level…..he is Yonkou level......and Admiral level also.
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I dont think the World Power dudes are actually strong i think they're just beuracrats.
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If he is a Shichibukai level…..he is Yonkou level......and Admiral level also.
Not all inviduals are in same level. You should know that.
Are you saying that Eneru couldn't be a world power?
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@AD-HD:
Not all inviduals are in same level. You should know that.
Are you saying that Eneru couldn't be a world power?
LOL did you even read my post…....I said if he is at the Warlord level, he also at Yonkou level...... and Admiral level.
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I'm saying i don't think they're where they are by strength alone. Eneru just doesn't strike me as a guy with enough political know-how to become a world power, but strength wise yeah he's up there with 'em.
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@Final:
LOL did you even read my post…....I said if he is at the Warlord level, he also at Yonkou level...... and Admiral level.
See, the Yonkou are all equal with the exception of WB. The admirals we don't know but I think it's stated that Aokiji is the strongest of them. The Warlords is a very mixed group. They are equal to the admirals and Yonkou but among themselves their are different types. Mihawk would own Enel in 2 seconds, but based on the fighting of Crocodile, we can conclude that Enel would be at least in the level of a low class warlord. Also; we don't know if Croc was the weakest warlord.
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LOL did you even read my post…....I said if he is at the Warlord level, he also at Yonkou level...... and Admiral level.
Yes, I did read it. But you make it sound that he could beat Shanks or Whitebeard or Aokiji. And that all world power inviduals are in same level. Which is false.
Anyway, with his Maxim Eneru is capable to destroy islands. His bounty would be 500-million berries. Without Luffy's gomu gomu-fruit, Skypiea would be destroyed. I can continue this list if you want.
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Eneru-sama would be probably be on the same level as the Yonkou, as Oda himself said his bounty would be 500 million.
Given Oda's words on the previous page, I very much doubt that.
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Yes, I did read it. But you make it sound that he could beat Shanks or Whitebeard or Aokiji. And that all world power inviduals are in same level. Which is false.
Did I say that??? NO! I could easily say you made your last post sound like he could beat all the Warlords when we have not seen them in action.
Anyway, with his Maxim Eneru is capable to destroy islands. His bounty would be 500-million berries. Without Luffy's gomu gomu-fruit, Skypiea would be destroyed. I can continue this list if you want.
LOL are you talking to yourself because I didnt say eneru could not be a world power…....Let me repeat myself, If he is at Warlord Level, he is at Yonkou Level and Admiral level. (going by your logic)
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Final end, I'd like you to prove that Crocodile and AoKiji are on the same level.
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I'm curious to know Mihawk would win when he can turn to lighting at will…
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Final end, I'd like you to prove that Crocodile and AoKiji are on the same level.
I never said they are on the same level????
I would like you to show me the post where I said that??
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@Final:
I never said they are on the same level????
I would like you to show me the post where I said that??
Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a winner!
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Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a winner!
LOL Im waiting…..for you to find the post where I said Croc and Mr Ice Man(Aokiji) is on the same Level?
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Polygon srsly wtf are you talkin about…
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LOL are you talking to yourself because I didnt say eneru could not be a world power
Then are you agreeing with me?
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@Final:
If he is a Shichibukai level…..he is Yonkou level......and Admiral level also.
**A****oKiji = Admiral
Croc = Former Schichbukai
So going by this, Croc is on the same level as Aokiji. Which makes no sense.**