@Cap'n:
He had that when he fought Ener, and he was still fried. You're talking gibberish.
LOL Uh, Asura was first displayed when he fought kaku….....I always thought you didnt like threads like this? Eneru vs Zoro he ass is mist!
In the hierarchy of Blue Seas, how high Eneru would be?
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What does Ashura have to do with anything?
And this just shows how bored I am.
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@Final:
LOL Uh Asura was first displayed when he fought kaku….....I always thought you didnt like threads like this?
Uhhmm. The breath thing was against Mr. 1.
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**Zoro can't beat Enel, at least not yet.
Also, Whitebeard and Shanks didn't actually cut the skies, they split the clouds apart. Splitting the sky just sounds a whole lot cooler.**
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@Cap'n:
What does Ashura have to do with anything?
And this just shows how bored I am.
"Ashura" is the move that turn @#$5 into mist…....bored you say..... looks like your done complaining for the day.
@ ploygon its stated that Shanks and Whitebeard split the sky.
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@Final:
Uh, Zoro will trun his ass into mist!….....lets not forget about the move that cuts nothing......The breath......Whitebeard and shanks cut the sky which is falls under things that cant be cut.
**You are clearly taking about the breath of all things. Not Asura.
And no they didn't cut the sky in half. the Sky isn't a tangible thing. They moved the clouds asid. Splitting the sky just sounds cooler.**
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You are clearly taking about the breath of all things. Not Asura.
Asura is the move state or whatever Zoro used to turn Kaku's slash wave into mist.
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Last time I checked, Kaku wasn't turned into mist. And it wasn't at all said that Ashura instantly turns everything into mist… he was just able to dispel Kaku's attack.
In addition to being bored, I felt like having my hand at one of these boring power level threads. I'm kind of disappointed that all you have to argue against me is some kind of wacky fanfiction produced by your rather liberal interpretation of the manga.
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@Final:
Asura is the move state or whatever Zoro used to turn Kaku's slash wave into mist.
**I know.
But you were clearly takling about the breath of all things in that post I quoted. Which he had since his victory over Daz Bones.
What probaley happened is you got mixed up between the 2. I hope.**
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And no they didn't cut the sky in half. the Sky isn't a tangible thing. They moved the clouds asid. Splitting the sky just sounds cooler.
Canon from stephens site…....
Pirate: The clouds…NO... the SKY has been split!!!
Now the pic
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**Wow.
I'll say it one more time. What really happened was that the wind from their strike caused all the clouds above them to move to the side. Making it look like the sky is splitting in half.
EDIT: And how the hell is that from Stephen's site?**
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Last time I checked, Kaku wasn't turned into mist. And it wasn't at all said that Ashura instantly turns everything into mist… he was just able to dispel Kaku's attack.
As you said…..how zoro going to beat a guy who can trun into thunder, or whatever, I gave you an answer Zoro will trun his thunder ass into mist, and if he stays normal then zoro will cut his cut his ass up. Zoro truned Kaku's energy slash wave into mist........wonder what will happen to Enel thunder attacks.
In addition to being bored, I felt like having my hand at one of these boring power level threads. I'm kind of disappointed that all you have to argue against me is some kind of wacky fanfiction produced by your rather liberal interpretation of the manga.
Oh, Im sorry next time I will talk about Ussop.
@ploygon….yea I got mixed up, now about that sky split its stated that the sky has been split, fist the no named pirates talk about how the clouds has been cut or what not then one corrects the others and tells them the sky has been split.
the pic is from MSN....the quote is from stephen.
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No one corrected anyone. Someone said that the clouds are splitting. Then that SAME guy said that it's as if the very heavens are being cut.
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I was never under the impression that Rankyaku was "energy," but a slicing gust of wind created by incredibly powerful leg strength. That hardly makes it the same as ELECTRICITY.
@Final:
Oh, Im sorry next time I will talk about Ussop.
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it takes more than just a strong DF to hold your own in the Blue Seas.
to me, Eneru wouldnt be able to impress or cause as much initial fear in peoplejust because he can create lighting. shanks and characters like him would be like "DF user..yawn"
Crocodile dominated for the most part with his intelligence and knew how to exploit alabsata with his DF. his DF wasnt a means to muscle people around ( not all the time at least )
Eneru would have a high bounty but im sure his is based on strength alone (maybe mantra too )
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No one corrected anyone. Someone said that the clouds are splitting. Then that SAME guy said that it's as if the very heavens are being cut.
LOL I gave you a quote and now im going to have to give you the hole scan.
Quote form stephens site…..
Pirate: The clouds… NO... the SKY has been split!!!
Now look at this pic as they show the clouds
Now look as they close up to the sky where you can see that it is split!
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@Final:
As you said…..how zoro going to beat a guy who can trun into thunder, or whatever, I gave you an answer Zoro will trun his thunder ass into mist, and if he stays normal then zoro will cut his cut his ass up. Zoro truned Kaku's energy slash wave into mist........wonder what will happen to Enel thunder attacks.
Kaku's enery slash? That was wind. As soon as Zoro touches Enel with his sword, he would get a shock. Look how badly he lost against Enel and Enel wasn't evn using his good attcks.
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Read the first 2 lines on the first page. Now look at the pic you circled. Those are clouds. Get it through your thick skull, you're wrong.
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I was never under the impression that Rankyaku was "energy," but a slicing gust of wind created by incredibly powerful leg strength. That hardly makes it the same as ELECTRICITY.
As I said before Zoro will trun Enels attacks into mist….....Last time I check a gust of wind is not blue. Zoro asura can alter reality as he displayed agaisnt Kaku.
@ Ploygon I have facts backing me that they slpit the sky.(your wrong)
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**Wait, Zoro can alter reality now?
Permission to lol?**
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Wait, Zoro can alter reality now?
Permission to lol?
Did he not???? the man trun Kaku's attack into mist??? with out any trouble.
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Seriously, where is a mod when u need 'em? Zoro alters reality, is that a joke or something?
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Wow good thing Final End saved me the trouble of making him look like a fool.
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@Final:
Did he not???? the man trun Kaku's attack into mist??? with out braking a sweat.
**He simply split a really strong gust of wind into a lot of smaller parts.
Where's Carter when you need him.**
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Seriously, where is a mod when u need 'em? Zoro alters reality, is that a joke or something?
As I said before Zoro trun a attack, Kaku's best attack into mist….....with out a DF. what is stated in the manga is above what you think......it was never stated that kaku's attack was a gust of wind....it is stated that Zoro truned his attack into mist.
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omg! Zoro is a god now?
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it is stated that Zoro truned it into mist.
There's a distinct difference between mist and electricity, nevermind mist and splitting a gust of air.
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@Le:
There's a distinct difference between mist and electricity, nevermind mist and splitting a gust of air.
Post a quote where it is stated that Kaku's attack is a gust of wind.
@ Ploygon…...I like how you stop saying that WB and Shanks didnt cut the sky, its stated in the manga that they did.
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Post a quote where it says Zoro ALTERED REALITY TO SEND RANKYAKU TO THE NEXT DIMENSION
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**Rankyankyu, Zoro's cannons, T-Bone's slasher thing. these are all concentrated blasts of air in the shape of a blade. Nothing more. there is no energy mmumbo-jumbo mixed in.
and the only reason it's blue in the anime is to make it easy to see.**
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Rankyankyu, Zoro's cannons, T-Bone's slasher thing. these are all concentrated blasts of air in the shape of a blade. Nothing more. there is no energy mmumbo-jumbo mixed in.
and the only reason it's blue in the anime is to make it easy to see.
I would like to see quotes not some Bull #%% you think is right, what you think is not stated in the manga.
@Cap'n:
Post a quote where it says Zoro ALTERED REALITY TO SEND RANKYAKU TO THE NEXT DIMENSION
Zoro truned Kaku's attack into mist…..with out a DF the man altered reality.
From stephen's site.Zoro: Hahh. Idiot… Hahh. You're the one who ought to give up. Demon Spirit...!! "Nine-Sword Style" "Asura"
The Mutha @#$ Nine swords WTF…....
Kaku: He turned the slash into mist!!! Zoro: Suffering is welcome on the path of carnage. "ASURA" "ICHIBUGIN"!!!! (One Mist Silver)
Truned $%^ into mist.
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I would like to see quotes not some Bull #%% you think is right, what you think is not stated in the manga.
So you think that just because it doesn't have an explanation that you have to come up with some other explanation without backing up your facts?
And you take things way too literally in text. Mist is just figurative for a dispersion of the air separating. Like a mist.
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So you think that just because it doesn't have an explanation that you have to come up with some other explanation without backing up your facts?
hmmmmm Zoro changed kaku's attack into mist, its stated in the manga…I dont have to explain anything...the manga does, if you want to think and chat about One piece,go make a thread. Dont try to push your theory as facts and try to dismiss the manga.
And you take things way too literally in text. Mist is just figurative for a dispersion of the air separating. Like a mist.
Well it said Zoro truned his attck into mist…....I see people have the powers of a blackholes in this world of One piece.......Zoro truning an attack into mist with 9 swords and Demon KI that sounds about right......What stated is stated.
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Califa: It is possible to be fast enough to cause "kamakaze"…
That is "Rankyaku."(Note: Kamakaze (Scythe Wind) is a type of Japanese demon, more commonly called Kamaitachi.
This invisible spirit is said to cut the skin when come in contact with.)There's your evidence. Rankyaku is a scythe made of wind. Now why would wind be turned into mist?
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@Le:
There's your evidence. Rankyaku is a scythe made of wind. Now why would wind be turned into mist?
Hmmmm where's this quote from?
also….
(This invisible spirit is said to cut the skin when come in contact with.)
It sound like spirit instead of wind.
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@Final:
Hmmmm where's this quote from?
Chapter 348
It sound like spirit instead of wind.
Again, you take text too literally. Kamakaze is simply a pun used by Oda, as a way of referring to Kamaitachi, while using its literal meaning of "scythe wind", hence why Califa also states that they need to move fast enough to create it.
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@Final:
I would like to see quotes not some Bull #%% you think is right, what you think is not stated in the manga.
So what does that make your assetation that Zoro "altered reality"? Established fact? Har har har.
btw, "kamaitachi" is mainly the name the Japanese gave to describe a phenomena where someone is blasted by a gust of wind and they receive cuts on their bodies as a result. In folklore it's explained that there's invisible weasels wielding sickles cutting people.
If you're going to claim that CP9 summoned little weasels to slice up the Strawhats, then please stop now.
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Chapter 348
Nice facts but like I said Kaku's move cuts…..read your own quote.
(This invisible spirit is said to cut the skin when come in contact with.)
This qoute say its an invisible spirit that cuts when it comes in contact with, kaku's attack was able to split a tower. Spirit that cuts when comes into contact with…..Kaku's attack cuts....Kaku know about and talked about Zoro spirit most of the match.......yea its spirit thats able to cut. Also "scythe wind", is stated to be a" is a type of Japanese demon, more commonly called Kamaitachi. This invisible spirit is said to cut the skin when come in contact with." As I said before its more of spirit then wind.
Again, you take text too literally.
So I guess Zoro demon spirit, and 9 sword style, and him able to trun kaku's attack into mist…..BB being able to have the powers of a blackhole, WB and Shanks spliting the sky...... im taking that too literally.
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So now Kaku is summoning spirits to cut things for him.
Oh lordy lordy.
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btw, "kamaitachi" is mainly the name the Japanese gave to describe a phenomena where someone is blasted by a gust of wind and they receive cuts on their bodies as a result. In folklore it's explained that there's invisible weasels wielding sickles cutting people.
Listen to this Final End. Listen to this.
Nice facts but like I said Kaku's move cuts…..read your own quote.
…I don't follow how that backs up your statement that it's spirit. Of course it cuts. It's like a scythe.
So I guess Zoro demon spirit, and 9 sword style, and him able to trun kaku's attack into mist…..BB being able to have the powers of a blackhole, WB and Shanks spliting the sky...... im taking that too literally.
You see that happening (aside from it being mist, that you're taking too literally). Have you ever heard of figurative language?
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@Cap'n:
So now Kaku is summoning spirits to cut things for him.
This is a manga….....smart guy......things that dont happen in the real world happen all the time in comic books.
I think, I know what your looking for...
@Le:
Listen to this Final End. Listen to this.
and you listen to this….
@Final:
This qoute say its an invisible spirit that cuts when it comes in contact with, kaku's attack was able to split a tower. Spirit that cuts when comes into contact with…..Kaku's attack cuts....Kaku knows about and talked about Zoro spirit most of the match…....yea its spirit thats able to cut. Also "scythe wind", is stated to be a" is a type of Japanese demon, more commonly called Kamaitachi. This invisible spirit is said to cut the skin when come in contact with." As I said before its more of spirit then wind.
…I don't follow how that backs up your statement that it's spirit. Of course it cuts. It's like a scythe.
@Final:
Also "scythe wind", is stated to be a" is a type of Japanese demon, more commonly called Kamaitachi. This invisible spirit is said to cut the skin when come in contact with." As I said before its more of spirit then wind.
@Le:
You see that happening (aside from it being mist, that you're taking too literally). Have you ever heard of figurative language?
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If zoro did trun Kaku's attack into mist, why would Oda say that, if he didnt…...maybe it because Zoro did.
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So you're saying just because it can mean a certain demon it automatically means that it's a Kamakaze.
Right. Just like how Oni Giri is when Zoro uses literal onigiri against his opponent. Or a literal hair cut when he uses Tora Gari.
Likewise, Mist is merely the way that Stephen chose to translate that certain text. Figurative Language.
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@Final:
This is a manga….....smart guy......things that dont happen in the real world happen all the time in comic books.
So now we're back at square one with the age old "my retarded explanation about something occuring in this work of fiction is protected by the fact that it's a work of fiction and things impossible in the real world occur in them all the time."
Now see, it's true that fiction has things that cannot occur in real life, but every [good] world of a fictional piece has defined rules. A modified law of physics or something to that effect. And when the author decides to break these rules all of a sudden the result is pure crap.
For example, in Naruto, the characters won't build a spaceship and fly into the sun to fight space apes. Goku didn't go through a blood pact with satan to get enough power to defeat Freeza. Light Yagami didn't breathe fire on L. And so on.
So, I'm absolutely baffled as to Kaku simply creating a strong, slicing gust of wind from a powerful kick is much more absurd and unbelieveable as him summoning spirits to cut Zoro for him.
And it's been fun, but I hope that most people who've been wondering why I normally they out of these kinds of discussion can see the reason why; the debates are purely and unequivocally retarded, even for this place. I mean sure, an anime/manga forum is bound to have some depressing discussion going on, but here we have a kid arguing not onlu that Whitebeard literally sliced the sky, but Zoro is warping reality, and Kaku is summoning spirits to fuel his Rankyaku attacks.
It reminds me of how someone took Whitebeard's line to Shanks about him being "100 years too early" literally as an indicator for his age being over 100 years old.
Also, this is too easy. Later.
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**Rankyankyu, Zoro's cannons, T-Bone's slasher thing. these are all concentrated blasts of air in the shape of a blade. Nothing more. there is no energy mmumbo-jumbo mixed in.
and the only reason it's blue in the anime is to make it easy to see.**
"energy mumbo jumbo?"
Dont be to confident in that. If Zoro can create an illusion of demons, shooting "energy" attacks is definately possible.
If you want to talk reality. Wind isnt even visible and it would be going much faster.
OK and enough bullshit about Zoro bending reality. I got a better question for you. WHEN DID ZORO EVER OBEY REALITY? Reflect back on some of the stuff he did. OK no need for me to provide any evidence then.
I still think that Eneru is stronger then Crocodile. If they fought though I don't know how they're logias would affect each other, but Crocodile seems smarter to me so he might be able to exploit his weakness more.
However in terms of threat and raw overall power, Eneru is more impressive. Robin was basically never terrified of Crocodile. She however was terrified by Eneru's powers.
Eneru's logia gave him a serious personality complex. Near the end of the Skypia arc he was basically making lightning fall like rain.
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@Final:
Let me show you how much of fool you are Poly, The OP world is different from ours…. Hmmmmm less air in skypeia you say? That is totally false? You wanna know why i think that. Because its Manga
@http://www.mangascreener.com/stephen/onepiece/chapter238.txt:
Luffy: I can't move… so well.
Robin: ...it must be
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Crew: Oh... yeah, maybe...
Knight: Are you Blue Sea Dwellers?
Nami: What's that?
...and who are you?Knight: I am the "Sky Knight".
Blue Sea Dwellers are what we call those who live below the clouds.
Which means you came up from the blue sea.Luffy: ...yeah, that's right.
Knight: Well, no wonder... This is the "White Sea", 7,000 meters above the "Blue Sea".
And the "White White Sea" above us is over 10,000 meters.
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Luffy: Okay!! I'm gettin' used to it.
Zoro: Yeah, I feel a lot better than before.
I assume someone posted that already but i couldn't get myselft to read the whole thread. whateva, enel \o/ !!!!!1111
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So now we're back at square one with the age old "my retarded explanation about something occuring in this work of fiction is protected by the fact that it's a work of fiction and things impossible in the real world occur in them all the time."
So your saying zoro never truned Kaku's attack into mist when i posted the manga facts…..you know?..... the other word for it is canon!
Now see, it's true that fiction has things that cannot occur in real life, but every [good] world of a fictional piece has defined rules. A modified law of physics or something to that effect. And when the author decides to break these rules all of a sudden the result is pure crap.
Well it is Fact that zoro truned kaku's attack into mist….....
For example, in Naruto, the characters won't build a spaceship and fly into the sun to fight space apes. Goku didn't go through a blood pact with satan to get enough power to defeat Freeza. Light Yagami didn't breathe fire on L. And so on.
Well BB eat a df and got the powers of a BLACK HOLE, Zoro DEMON KI is so strong it made him look as if he had 9 swords and 3 heads…...I posted the Facts quote, and scans you have a weak ass rant.
So, I'm absolutely baffled as to Kaku simply creating a strong, slicing gust of wind from a powerful kick is much more absurd and unbelieveable as him summoning spirits to cut Zoro for him.
Well…...here some more canon food for your hungry Ass...
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that dont look like wind to me…....also it is fact that people in this world of one piece is able to use there spirit to attack.......
And it's been fun, but I hope that most people who've been wondering why I normally they out of these kinds of discussion can see the reason why; the debates are purely and unequivocally retarded, even for this place. I mean sure, an anime/manga forum is bound to have some depressing discussion going on, but here we have a kid arguing not onlu that Whitebeard literally sliced the sky, but Zoro is warping reality, and Kaku is summoning spirits to fuel his Rankyaku attacks.
Its stated that Whitebeard and shanks split the sky…......Zoro did trun kaku's attack into mist. Here we have Enel in space! with no space suit!
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Canon…...................Nuff said
Also, this is too easy. Later.
Anyone could make a long ass rant, and ignore canon.
Likewise, Mist is merely the way that Stephen chose to translate that certain text. Figurative Language.
I dont think so…..the scan shows Zoro dismiss the attack then kaku said he truned it into mist, also.......
Zoro: Suffering is welcome on the path of carnage. "ASURA" "ICHIBUGIN"!!!! (One Mist Silver)
Zoro's attack means one mist silver…wonder why would he call his attack that....maybe it has to do with mist, as he displayed against kaku....so its a fitting name for this attack.
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Jabura is a wolf. Literally. He can form his rankyaku into wolf shapes.
I've seen another translation that has Kaku saying that he turned the attack into fog. You know, like a dispersing of air. I don't understand why you can't accept that
- Rankyaku is just a quick air burst.
- Zoro merely dispersed the compression of air sent in Rankyaku.
You read things too literally. Oni Giri is not Zoro throwing riceballs.
And even so, what does this have to do with him beating Enel?
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Post a quote where it says Zoro ALTERED REALITY TO SEND RANKYAKU TO THE SHADOW REALM
Corrected.
and Kaku is summoning spirits to fuel his Rankyaku attacks.
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Jabura is a wolf. Literally. He can form his rankyaku into wolf shapes.
Zoro has a move named "ASURA" "ICHIBUGIN"!!!! (One Mist Silver) that truns attack into mist…..Zoro can also use his spirit and forum his attacks into other things also.
I've seen another translation that has Kaku saying that he turned the attack into fog. You know, like a dispersing of air. I don't understand why you can't accept that
Why cant you guys, accept what is stated in the manga?
- Rankyaku is just a quick air burst.
Reread my other post.
- Zoro merely dispersed the compression of air sent in Rankyaku.
Rankyaku is spirit, Zoro truned that attack into mist.
You read things too literally. Oni Giri is not Zoro throwing riceballs.
LOL Zoro's attack called "ASURA" "ICHIBUGIN"!!!! (One Mist Silver) truned an attack into mist. BB has the ability to use a black hole…...
And even so, what does this have to do with him beating Enel?
Zoro will dismiss, or better yet mist, his attack and kill him with the breath of all things.
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@Final:
Zoro has a move named "ASURA" "ICHIBUGIN"!!!! (One Mist Silver) that truns attack into mist…..Zoro can also use his spirit and forum his attacks into other things also.
Just because Zoro projects a spirit doesn't mean that Jabura does.
Why cant you guys, accept what is stated in the manga?
You read things too literally. Puns are used ALL THE TIME.
Rankyaku is spirit, Zoro truned that attack into mist.
Kamakaze literally means Scythe Wind. As Carter pointed out,
it's a phrase used by Japanese to speak of cuts caused by wind. Just because it's an alternate name for Kamaitachi does not mean that it is spirit. It requires a high speed to create, as Califa stated.LOL Zoro's attack called "ASURA" "ICHIBUGIN"!!!! (One Mist Silver) truned an attack into mist. BB has the ability to use a black hole…...
There's a distinct difference between what we see and what is used in language. BB using a black hole is plausible. Ichibugin is a pun. I don't see Zoro cutting into three thousand worlds with Sanzen Sekai.
Zoro will dismiss, or better yet mist, his attack and kill him with the breath of all things.
Dismissing lightning is different than dismissing air. And if he could kill with the breath of all things, he should have done so in his earlier confrontation against Enel.
