We all know Buggy found a treasure map while on a pirate ship, we recently found out that he used to be on Roger's ship. Could it be that the map buggy found was actually a map to or relating to One Piece. I've always felt that that map was important somehow, maybe this could be it?
Buggy and his map#*(%()*%
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Hmm, well the map was a treasure map that had a great importance to Nami, after she took a good look at it. Maybe Nami is actually following the map to get the crew to One Piece.
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No, it led to an "underwater" tresure. And it was located outside of the Grand Line.
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It's a map of the Grand Line. I don't recall an "X" on it.
On an unrelated note, did you spontaneously fall asleep on your keyboard as you were typing the title of this thread?
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There's no way. How can you make a map of the Grand Line? You can't determine distance between islands, so there's no way to create a map of more than one island. Even Nami's "world map" would be relative distance between islands, not exact, which a treasure map requires.
I brought this up in a thread a while ago about that map, and it's pretty obvious they were in the blues for whatever reason when they found it.
The evidence to that is on Gin's wall in the Belle-mere flashback, which shows that guy that whacked Shanks and Buggy on the head with a 22,000,000 bounty (Higher than Arlong's). If everyone was saying that Arlong was the highest in East Blue, in present time, that man with the wine glass must be somewhere in the Grand Line and no longer in East Blue.
I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.
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**The Grandline map was a different map than the one ami found in the saf, As far as I recall.
And as for the random letter. they did there job. three posts in 2 minutes.
EDIT: Who says they wre in the blues? there's no real proof.**
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it cannot be one piece it leads to, since the map was takken from a ship they attacked
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@Fire Fist:
There's no way. How can you make a map of the Grand Line? You can't determine distance between islands, so there's no way to create a map of more than one island. Even Nami's "world map" would be relative distance between islands, not exact, which a treasure map requires.
I never said anything about the whole Grandline.
I brought this up in a thread a while ago about that map, and it's pretty obvious they were in the blues for whatever reason when they found it.
The evidence to that is on Gin's wall in the Belle-mere flashback, which shows that guy that whacked Shanks and Buggy on the head with a 22,000,000 bounty (Higher than Arlong's). If everyone was saying that Arlong was the highest in East Blue, in present time, that man with the wine glass must be somewhere in the Grand Line and no longer in East Blue.
**Do we actually know it's him? Both times we see "him" he is mostly covered in shadow. Plus, who knows how old those bounty posters were.
Also, was the map taken from a ship? Or did Buggy just find it?**
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I never said anything about the whole Grandline.
That's not the point. You can't even make a map between two islands with exact distance. No compass and no sextant means that there's no way of determining exact distance between two islands. Plus, that was a treasure map, the X pointed to the middle of the ocean. And Buggy found it while they were attacking that ship.
**Do we actually know it's him? Both times we see "him" he is mostly covered in shadow. Plus, who knows how old those bounty posters were.
Also, was the map taken from a ship? Or did Buggy just find it?**
It is the same guy. Here:
http://groups.msn.com/onepiecemanga/onepiecechapter19.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=418
Two rings around his arm, right?
http://groups.msn.com/onepiecemanga/onepiecechapter77.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=1531
That's horrible quality, can someone find a better quality image? But if you look at the guy holding the glass of wine, he's also got two rings around his arm.
So yes, they're the same guy.
I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.
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@Fire Fist:
That's not the point. You can't even make a map between two islands with exact distance. No compass and no sextant means that there's no way of determining exact distance between two islands. Plus, that was a treasure map, the X pointed to the middle of the ocean. And Buggy found it while they were attacking that ship.
**Who says you can't find the exact distance between two islands? I don't see why ou can't.
But that's besides the point, you don't need the exact distance between the islands. By your logic, there are no maps of two or more islands in One piece. Hec, we had maps between islands hundreds of years ago. they weren't exact, but we still had the maps.
Did Duggy find it on the other guys ship? I thought he found it on the floor of his Roger's ship.
On the point of the man with 2 rings. Do we even know who he was? Who says he was a big shot on Roger's ship? He could have just been a stronger than normal guy who became stronger later on. Plus it's not exaclt impossible for 2 men to have rings like that.**
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**The Grandline map was a different map than the one ami found in the saf, As far as I recall.
And as for the random letter. they did there job. three posts in 2 minutes.
EDIT: Who says they wre in the blues? there's no real proof.**
It's been a while since i watched/read the beginner of OP, but are you refering to the map nami found in the safe at the marine base that Buggy left there?
That map was a fake I thought, since Buggy wrote over it and said he was there, he was just leaving his calling card…. goes to read the beginning chapters again :happy: -
He is talking about the map Buggy found when he was an apprentice pirate on Roger s ship
He took the map when they attacked an enemy pirate ship.The x mark was in the middle of the ocean
We all know that in the Grand Line people cannot travel without a log pose
so they don t know if they are travelling nord south east or west
in other words even if someone can make a map –-> no one can travel to that spot because you need coordinates to travel to a certain spotThe log pose only gives an islands position so a spot in the middle of the ocean is unfindable.
You people need to recheck the jaya-arc.
SOOOOOO conclusion this map can only be about a treasure in one of the blues.
Seeking infinity, with all my affinities.
Finding truth, like a falling fruit, my ultimate finality.
Inside my being, the outside, all things; the finite leads the way.
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@Fire Fist:
That's horrible quality, can someone find a better quality image? But if you look at the guy holding the glass of wine, he's also got two rings around his arm.
It's next to impossible to tell. I took a magnified photo of that poster of the guy with the glass and it's still unclear as heck.
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He is talking about the map Buggy found when he was an apprentice pirate on Roger s ship
He took the map when they attacked an enemy pirate ship.The x mark was in the middle of the ocean
We all know that in the Grand Line people cannot travel without a log pose
so they don t know if they are travelling nord south east or west
in other words even if someone can make a map –-> no one can travel to that spot because you need coordinates to travel to a certain spotThe log pose only gives an islands position so a spot in the middle of the ocean is unfindable.
You people need to recheck the jaya-arc.
SOOOOOO conclusion this map can only be about a treasure in one of the blues.
The log posts are not the only way to travel. the reason why hiding it in the middle of the sea on the grandline, is that next to no one can find it. but it would be possible. I mean, Masira and brother were finding treasure in the sae all the time.
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Don't forget the south bird they may have purposely buried it directly south of something so they know a south bird would guide them there
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Actually Fire Fist Ace, I've never even see them use a sextant. With all of the other advances they have, is this one vital technology that hasn't been invented in the OP world yet? Or perhaps it was willfully 'lost' by the World Government during the Void Century, to avoid One Piece-and the truth-being found.
I'm like Hisotensoku: Not here to preserve peace, nor to destroy it. I certainly can't move mountains. Mostly, I'm just full of hot air.- Meh
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@_Meh_:
Actually Fire Fist Ace, I've never even see them use a sextant. With all of the other advances they have, is this one vital technology that hasn't been invented in the OP world yet? Or perhaps it was willfully 'lost' by the World Government during the Void Century, to avoid One Piece-and the truth-being found.
Well, generally on the Grand Line, we wouldn't really need a sextant, because of the relative proximity to each island. I doubt that the latitude is going to change much; it's probably within 5 degrees. IIRC, the area between the tropic of cancer and tropic of capricorn on Earth is 15 degrees.
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@Roz:
It's next to impossible to tell. I took a magnified photo of that poster of the guy with the glass and it's still unclear as heck.
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Looks exactly like the same guy, and is that Krieg next to him?
Btw, was that exact poster shown in the anime as well?
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the guy looked different in the Anime.
And it looks like SMoker meets DOn Krieg. Krieg has long, flowing kinda girly hair and has a nasty look on his face like "Watch It" in his poster.
I think it's just a plot tool, to signify the importance of the Devil Fruit powers being unwanted by Buggy.
It's supposed to be his driving force of hate against Shanks, his dream was "ruined" in a way by an accident that buggy sees "caused" by shanks because now, buggy can't ge tthat treasure, because he needs his crew to get it, and he want sthe treasure to himself.
Also he looted it off one of the guys on the enemy ship, the same they got the fruit from, which also tells the crew had no idea of it, especially since he hid it and never told.
Since some nobody was holding it in his shirt and buggy took it, plus Roger wasn't captured yet, means that there's about a 75% chance it was before they were supposed to have reached Raftel(assuming all the "rumors" are true) and abouyt a 67% chance he didn't have a real idea about what he'd do exactly, ont sure of the words, what toc do with his treasure, what his treasure is, ect.
The Greatest Snipper will be able to see a little bug with the bare eye one the moonTHEN WHY DO I USE GOGGLES!
