Blackbeard and Pluton!

Sogeking D. Usopp

Okay here's what I'm concluding:

A. Blackbeard uses positions to aquire what he desires. He was on Whitebeard's crew to obtain Darkness Logia fruit. After he obtained it, he had no reason to stay.

B. Blackbeard now has what he believes is the most powerful DF. He also has a powerful crew. The only thing he does lack is a powerful ship.

C. Since he uses certain positions as a way to collect what he desires, he will most likely use his position (if given one) in Shichibukai in order to obtain one of the Legendary Ships, Pluton or Posidon.

Imagine how the last few chapters will be… Blackbeard, the greatest pirate in the world (he will beat Luffy to it, he has experience and lacks the morals) with the most powerful ship in history. And its up to Luffy and Co. to stop him. (This is where Smoker and Luffy team up?)

Overon

Well if Blackbeard really needs a strong ship, he will take one that will probably suit him more than Pluton which he cant build cause he most likely is unable to read Porneglyphs.
But there is maybe (considering Oda often takes some parts of real pirates or famous pirate legends) a ship that was perfect for him, the Black Pearl.

AD-HD Pirate

You know what would be just perfect for him?
The Flying Dutchman. Legend said that captain of Flying Dutchman shoot angel with cannons.
It would be perfect to BB.

youruglyclone

@Overon:

Well if Blackbeard really needs a strong ship, he will take one that will probably suit him more than Pluton which he cant build cause he most likely is unable to read Porneglyphs.
But there is maybe (considering Oda often takes some parts of real pirates or famous pirate legends) a ship that was perfect for him, the Black Pearl.

that and the blueprints were burned.

and oda cribbing an idea from a movie based on a disney ride? doubt it.

Yeah, Franky burned the BluePrints and there's no way for him to gather the data…Unless he knows it that is.

psolaras

well i always wondered about those weapons

even though franky had the blue prints for the ancient weapon,pluton is somewhere in alabasta,isn't it? that is what croc was searching in the first place and robin lied to him about the poneglyph's translation

and poseidon might be out there too

what is someone found them??

FireFistAce 0

@Daisuke:

Yeah, Franky burned the BluePrints and there's no way for him to gather the data…Unless he knows it that is.

You obviously didn't pay attention to what Franky was saying.

The blueprints weren't to create Pluton, they were to create a weapon to counter Pluton if Pluton was ever found. That's why they wanted Robin AND Franky; then they'd have TWO weapons.

Pluton is still somewhere under Alabasta and Poseidon is still somewhere underneath Jaya. And the Zeus? Who knows.

Hyper Dingo

Blackbeard is going to start hanging with Croc, then they'd sail their dream ship together…..and makeout and stuff.

Coriolis

@Fire Fist:

You obviously didn't pay attention to what Franky was saying.

The blueprints weren't to create Pluton, they were to create a weapon to counter Pluton if Pluton was ever found. That's why they wanted Robin AND Franky; then they'd have TWO weapons.

Small correction. The blueprints were for Pluton. They wanted the blueprints to build Pluton and Robin so nobody could resurrect the original Pluton to challenge the WG/Spanda.

I dont see how Blackbeard can get his hands on Pluton. Nobody knows where it is or how to revive it. The only things that can show where it is are the Poneglyphs. That would mean that he'd have to kidnap Robin, seeing as she's the only person who could read em.

Hyper Dingo

@Coriolis:

Small correction. The blueprints were for Pluton. They wanted the blueprints to build Pluton and Robin so nobody could resurrect the original Pluton to challenge the WG/Spanda.

I dont see how Blackbeard can get his hands on Pluton. Nobody knows where it is or how to revive it. The only things that can show where it is are the Poneglyphs. That would mean that he'd have to kidnap Robin, seeing as she's the only person who could read em.

well roger could read em too. Who's to say there arent others? hmm?

Polygon

@Fire Fist:

You obviously didn't pay attention to what Franky was saying.

The blueprints weren't to create Pluton, they were to create a weapon to counter Pluton if Pluton was ever found. That's why they wanted Robin AND Franky; then they'd have TWO weapons.

Wrong. Those were the blueprints to Pluton. They had them to fight against Pluton in case it was ever awoken.

Taleran

…........this isn't serious is it?

FireFistAce 0

@Polygon:

Wrong. Those were the blueprints to Pluton. They had them to fight against Pluton in case it was ever awoken.

Franky: Nico Robin.
I can see you're not the "demon" trying to use these weapons for evil,
the way the world says you are.
…besides,
It's not "how to build weapons"
that the shipwrights of Water Seven have passed on for generations!!!

Franky: In the case that those Ancient Weapons were to fall into the hands of an idiot like you,
And you were to go on a rampage... Another weapon could be revived,
To STOP your madness!! That is the "wish of the designer"!!!
If you use Nico Robin, sure, you can bring back the weapons!! She's dangerous!
But she's got friends watching out for her!!!
So I'm willing to make a "bet."
If there's any way for me to respect the wish of the designer
in these circumstances, then this is it.

Maybe I'm not reading this like you guys are, but to me, Franky meant that a counter-weapon to Pluton could be made, not Pluton itself. Even if it was called the "Pluton Plans", do they really have the necessary materials to recreate such a deadly weapon? Countering is one thing, but a complete replication is entirely another.

Admiral Wolfpox

If it says "PLUTON" on the blueprints, and we saw Tom draw them himself in a flashback, then of course the blueprints are for Pluton, and of course it's possible for Water 7 to build. Otherwise, why have them keep it? Water 7 is the best ship-building place in the world, and Tom was the greatest shipwright. Iceburg and Franky could, with those blueprints, create Pluton.

AAAANYWAY… (you people…)

Okay here's what I'm concluding:

A. Blackbeard uses positions to aquire what he desires. He was on Whitebeard's crew to obtain Darkness Logia fruit. After he obtained it, he had no reason to stay.

B. Blackbeard now has what he believes is the most powerful DF. He also has a powerful crew. The only thing he does lack is a powerful ship.

C. Since he uses certain positions as a way to collect what he desires, he will most likely use his position (if given one) in Shichibukai in order to obtain one of the Legendary Ships, Pluton or Posidon.

I like most of this theory. It makes sense that Blackbeard would want to get a super-ship, and it would allow Oda to finally show off his designs for an ancient weapon. However, it's impossible to make Pluton now, unless Franky has memorized the blueprints or made a copy. But, there are more Ancient Weapons out there, and so I will add my own theory to the mix:

I think Blackbeard will hunt down the Strawhats to the Florian Triangle, where his powers will be greatly increased due to the darkness there, and where he will search for an Ancient Weapon (or at least a really great ship) that is hidden somewhere in there. This would be perfect for the "Thousand Sunny" which is all about shining through darkness… get it? You have a ship of darkness vs. a ship of light, and Franky will have to dismantle their ship because that's what he's best at.

Maybe it would be too much about "ancient weapons" if Blackbeard had one, but it would certainly make him a super-huge worldwide threat. I guess it depends just how powerful Oda wants to make Blackbeard.

But in any case, I think the Florian Triangle is where we'll see the confrontation, and it's a good theory to say that the Blackbeard Pirates will look for a new ship there.

FireFistAce 0

@Admiral:

If it says "PLUTON" on the blueprints, and we saw Tom draw them himself in a flashback, then of course the blueprints are for Pluton, and of course it's possible for Water 7 to build. Otherwise, why have them keep it? Water 7 is the best ship-building place in the world, and Tom was the greatest shipwright. Iceburg and Franky could, with those blueprints, create Pluton.

I could write "Mighty Penis laser" on a set of blueprints for a car, does that mean they're necessarily used to make a giant penis laser?

And I just told you why they'd keep it. To COUNTER Pluton.

Zulen

@Fire Fist:

I could write "Mighty Penis laser" on a set of blueprints for a car, does that mean they're necessarily used to make a giant penis laser?

And I just told you why they'd keep it. To COUNTER Pluton.

Hmm… I dunno, man. Now that I think about it that way, having blueprints with "PLUTON" engraved on them probably means they are blueprints for Pluton.

WHITEBEARD

@Fire Fist:

I could write "Mighty Penis laser" on a set of blueprints for a car, does that mean they're necessarily used to make a giant penis laser?

And I just told you why they'd keep it. To COUNTER Pluton.

What up with the penis jokes man.

FireFistAce 0

@Private:

Hmm… I dunno, man. Now that I think about it that way, having blueprints with "PLUTON" engraved on them probably means they are blueprints for Pluton.

So you're saying a car is a mighty penis laser if I write "Mighty Penis Laser" on it?

By that logic, I could write, "Hat that will make you Pirate King" on some random hat, give it to Luffy, and then he becomes Pirate King and the series ends.

Zulen

@Fire Fist:

So you're saying a car is a mighty penis laser if I write "Mighty Penis Laser" on it?

By that logic, I could write, "Hat that will make you Pirate King" on some random hat, give it to Luffy, and then he becomes Pirate King and the series ends.

It's a label. It doesn't automatically make an object the same as the title, this is true, but blueprints normally have such a title.

Admiral Wolfpox

@Fire Fist:

So you're saying a car is a mighty penis laser if I write "Mighty Penis Laser" on it?

By that logic, I could write, "Hat that will make you Pirate King" on some random hat, give it to Luffy, and then he becomes Pirate King and the series ends.

Jeez, what a pathetic argument. The fact that you have to make your point ridiculous and condescending only proves it.

Do you understand that One Piece is a story told by a man to an audience that he has to try to explain things to? If you understand this, you will quickly realize that he would never do something so stupid as to confuse his readers by having a blueprint for one ship share the name of a totally different one!

The ship is named PLUTON, so he wrote PLUTON on the front of the blueprints. Could it be more obvious? I really don't think it could.

The way to counter Pluton is to build another Pluton. Why is that so hard to believe?

freedom

@Fire Fist:

So you're saying a car is a mighty penis laser if I write "Mighty Penis Laser" on it?

By that logic, I could write, "Hat that will make you Pirate King" on some random hat, give it to Luffy, and then he becomes Pirate King and the series ends.

Ch'mon "Fire Fist" Ace, I normally have a certain degree of respect for you, even though you sometimes post some out of this world theories… nonetheless, they've got you on this one.

@stephen's:

Page 120 -

< <tom: come="" here,="" you="" two.<br="">I have something very important to give to you.

Lucci: Tom gave it to Iceburg, and Iceburg gave it to you.
That is the path it has traced…
Our long mission has finally reached checkmate.
Now, Franky, give us the blueprints...
to the world's most terrible battleship,
the ancient weapon, "PLUTON"!!!</tom:>

FireFistAce 0

@Admiral:

Jeez, what a pathetic argument. The fact that you have to make your point ridiculous and condescending only proves it.

Do you understand that One Piece is a story told by a man to an audience that he has to try to explain things to? If you understand this, you will quickly realize that he would never do something so stupid as to confuse his readers by having a blueprint for one ship share the name of a totally different one!

The ship is named PLUTON, so he wrote PLUTON on the front of the blueprints. Could it be more obvious? I really don't think it could.

Fine, they're the damn Pluton blueprints.

But my point is you could write "Monkeys will fly out of your ass if you wear this" on a shirt and putting that shirt on won't make monkeys fly out of your ass.

Coriolis

@Hyper:

well roger could read em too. Who's to say there arent others? hmm?

Well, seeing as the WG destroyed Ohara, it seems that Robin's the only survivor who could read poneglyphs. The earlier expedition Ohara sent out to find and decipher poneglyphs was destroyed by Saul.

Buuhan1

@Fire Fist:

So you're saying a car is a mighty penis laser if I write "Mighty Penis Laser" on it?

By that logic, I could write, "Hat that will make you Pirate King" on some random hat, give it to Luffy, and then he becomes Pirate King and the series ends.

I fricken told you bastards! One Piece is Chopper's hat! :ninja:

Admiral Wolfpox

@Fire Fist:

Fine, they're the damn Pluton blueprints.

But my point is you could write "Monkeys will fly out of your ass if you wear this" on a shirt and putting that shirt on won't make monkeys fly out of your ass.

Problem is, that point seemed to be an attempt to sidetrack the argument because it is so glaringly obvious that the blueprints were for Pluton.

FireFistAce 0

@Admiral:

Problem is, that point seemed to be an attempt to sidetrack the argument because it is so glaringly obvious that the blueprints were for Pluton.

Not so much that, it's just that even if it is the plans for Pluton, do they REALLY have the materials to make it? This was made during the lost century by the enemy to do god knows what. Why would a nation with differing ideals from the WG really need such bigass weapons? It makes me really wonder if they were weapons at all.

It's actually quite possible they could be arks instead, used to travel to another planet. Or perhaps they were to be floating cities, intended to keep the people of the kingdom safe in the event of an emergency. Iceburg wants to turn Water 7 into a floating city, so it's really not that farfetched.

But the point is, just because something says something doesn't make it true. Although this is the plans for Pluton, is it really Pluton as it was 800 years ago, or is a modern Pluton used to counter this ancient one?

Back on topic, I can actually see Blackbeard using Pluton as a weapon. Maybe he already has it… after all, his ship was destroyed at Knock-up Stream, Jaya is near Alabasta, and I get the strong feeling Teach knows more about One Piece and the poneglyphs that he's letting on. Why would he go back to Drum, of all places and chase Wapol out? Perhaps a rumor that an ancient ship was there?

Le Lawliet

I think Fire Fist has a point on that, but seeing as how blueprints are the actual designs of actual warships, I don't think a skilled shipwright like Iceberg would label them incorrectly unless he meant to as a diversion against possible government agents seeking it.

Sogeking D. Usopp

To counter the statement that Blackbeard can't read poneglyphs…

Blackbeard has studied DF somehow, and has several years of pirating and seeing things that nobody else has ever laid eyes on. Its highly possible that Whitebeard's fleet has their own poneglyph archelogists and scholars, considering its massive size and power. To believe he DOESN'T KNOW or CAN'T DO something is at this point absurd. The only thing he currently lacks is an intimdating ship.

What I'm predicting is that Blackbeard and Dragon catch up to Luffy around the same time... only Oda knows what'll happen then.

KuwabaraTheMan

Its an interesting thought, and Blackbeard is the ambitious type, so I could certainly see him going after an Ancient Weapon at some point. It is possible he could read the Poneglyphs, as well, somehow(he's a D. He can do anything!).

The idea has merit, if nothing else, and would fit Blackbeard's personality.

Admiral Wolfpox

@Fire:

Not so much that, it's just that even if it is the plans for Pluton, do they REALLY have the materials to make it?

Perhaps not, but since the manga doesn't say anything about it, and Water 7 is the only place in the world where there would be a chance of making it, then I would say it's safe to assume that it can be made there, by Tom and Iceburg, under ideal conditions. Otherwise, why would the government be afraid of it? If it can't be made, it's not a threat.

So it seems I got my crap mixed up, and the flashback was of Tom making the Puffing Tom, not Pluton. It would therefore make sense that Tom was simply holding onto the blueprints, and didn't create them. However, really, this just makes it more obvious that the blueprints are those of Pluton.

This scene tells us that the World Government knows about the blueprints but says that they are simply being "protected" by the pirates. So if the blueprint really is ancient, it just ended up in Tom's hands and he's been protecting it. Perhaps Gold Roger found it and gave it to Tom as some sort of payment for building the ship. In any case, it seems that it must have been around for a long time, and hence be called Ancient.

This also means that it's impossible for Blackbeard to have the ship, since it hasn't been built, and the blueprints were burned. A different super-ship (even if not an "ancient weapon") is still possible, though.

kljs

there is always the possibility of an original Pluton hidden somewhere….... if not, Robin wouldn't have mentioned it..........

duo014

offtopic:
wouldn't it be cool if a ship ate a devil fruit ?
– wait.. doesn't make sense xD

ontopic:
pluton is one piece xD

Hyper Dingo

@Coriolis:

Well, seeing as the WG destroyed Ohara, it seems that Robin's the only survivor who could read poneglyphs. The earlier expedition Ohara sent out to find and decipher poneglyphs was destroyed by Saul.

Hmmm who's to say all the oharans were killed? Their top archelogists must have been out in the world searching for poneglyphs. Unless like idiots they all returned to ohara as it was being destroyed….

FireFistAce 0

@Admiral:

This also means that it's impossible for Blackbeard to have the ship, since it hasn't been built, and the blueprints were burned. A different super-ship (even if not an "ancient weapon") is still possible, though.

Uh, yes it has. Did you forget the whole reason Croc was in Alabasta?

Crocodile: I NEVER TRUST ANYONE
FROM THE START.
I could at least confirm that "Pluton" exists, given Cobra's reaction to the word.
I'll find it without having to rely on this thing… Once this country is in my hands, it will only be a matter of time...!!!

The original Pluton is underneath Alabasta, which Blackbeard could easily find. Using black holes to blow up the desert? No problem.

The Pluton blueprints are to build a second Pluton to counter the first one.

But still, I don't think it's really Pluton. I think it's a modern version of the same ship, which isn't quite the same thing. I do not think for a second that they have the materials to build a 2nd exact model.

The reason the Government wants the plans is because Nico Robin was at large. Plus, if they get the original ship and the replica, then they would have TWO ancient Weapons. As far as we know, there's three original Ancient Weapons:

1. Pluton - Underneath Alabasta

2. Poseidon - Around Alabasta/Jaya

3. Zeus - Location unknown

kljs

I wonder if they will be another 9 more ancient weapons?

Coriolis

@Fire Fist:

Uh, yes it has. Did you forget the whole reason Croc was in Alabasta?

My impression was that he was after the Alabasta poneglyph to find Pluton's location. He had Nico Robin so she could read the poneglyph to discern the location of Pluton.

Overon

@Fire Fist:

The original Pluton is underneath Alabasta, which Blackbeard could easily find. Using black holes to blow up the desert? No problem.

pure speculation
Why not say he goes to water seven and forces them to build him a spaceship (i mean, yeah, they are best shipwrights). With that spaceship he will fly over to Alabasta, find the Pluton, grab it, fly to WB and kick his ass with it. After he killed WB he proceeds killing the other 3 emperors. After they are dead he thinks its cool to kill Sengok and the 3 admirals plus the remaining shichibukai (i mean hell, hes got a spaceship and uses black holes!!!).
Well, as Raftel is a space island
@Fire Fist:

Anyway, I'm going with my new theory that Raftel is a space island rather than a sky island.

he flys there, takes the one piece and is happy for a while.
After realizing he put the whole world into chaos he flys away to the moon searching for Enel. He goes friend with him declaring themselves as the lords of the universe. With that one One piece ends.

Sorry if i stole your next theory with that one.

FireFistAce 0

@Overon:

pure speculation
Why not say he goes to water seven and forces them to build him a spaceship (i mean, yeah, they are best shipwrights). With that spaceship he will fly over to Alabasta, find the Pluton, grab it, fly to WB and kick his ass with it. After he killed WB he proceeds killing the other 3 emperors. After they are dead he thinks its cool to kill Sengok and the 3 admirals plus the remaining shichibukai (i mean hell, hes got a spaceship and uses black holes!!!).
Well, as Raftel is a space island

he flys there, takes the one piece and is happy for a while.
After realizing he put the whole world into chaos he flys away to the moon searching for Enel. He goes friend with him declaring themselves as the lords of the universe. With that one One piece ends.

Sorry if i stole your next theory with that one.

Okay, there's a difference between not agreeing with a theory and trolling. You're trolling right now.

All of my theories are logical. Just because you don't agree with them doesn't give you carte blanche to troll me.

Mmod

What in the hell is this Zeus?????????

FireFistAce 0

@Mmod:

What in the hell is this Zeus?????????

You obviously don't know your Greek gods.

Zeus, Poseidon, Hades (Pluto). If there's already a Poseidon and Pluton mentioned, logic dictates there will be a Zeus.

onemoment

I don't see why not. Who knows what resources Blackbeard has gained since leaving Whtiebeards crew.

After all, Blackbeard said that he had some sort of plan to become Pirate King and Whitebeard in one stroke, so it has to be something big.

Mmod

@Fire Fist:

You obviously don't know your Greek gods.

Zeus, Poseidon, Hades (Pluto). If there's already a Poseidon and Pluton mentioned, logic dictates there will be a Zeus.

I asked "what" not "who". I see you're just making up something, not actualy on the manga. EDIT: I CAN SEE URANUS COMING!!!

onemoment

@Mmod:

I asked "what" not "who". I see you're just making up something, not actualy on the manga. EDIT: I CAN SEE URANUS COMING!!!

Actually, I think that Ace is unto something here. Seeing as we have two ancient weapons named after greek gods/roman gods/planets or something, we may have a few of these things hidden around the world.

What they'd do, who knows–they'd probably cause massive destruction.

FireFistAce 0

@Mmod:

I asked "what" not "who". I see you're just making up something, not actualy on the manga. EDIT: I CAN SEE URANUS COMING!!!

No offense, but why is it always the Brazilian guys that troll/mock me?

Anyway, if there's more weapons (And there probably are) then the next one is probably Zeus.

I actually had the theory of 3 weapons (someone else mentioned this, too):

Poseidon: Submarine, will be found underseas

Pluton: Ship, found underground (underworld)

Zeus: airship, will be found in the sky

jlo81

@onemoment:

I don't see why not. Who knows what resources Blackbeard has gained since leaving Whtiebeards crew.

After all, Blackbeard said that he had some sort of plan to become Pirate King and Whitebeard in one stroke, so it has to be something big.

maybe later in the series he will recruit someone who knows how to read poneglyphs .. then the bb crew will then revive the ancient weapon. a supa-villain certainly needs a supa-ship

sgamer82

a thought just hit me: Given the Blackbeard crew's powerful belief in fate, what do you think are the odds that they'll stumble onto a Weapon's hiding place purely by chance?

Admiral Wolfpox

@Fire Fist:

Anyway, if there's more weapons (And there probably are) then the next one is probably Zeus.

Really… how can you say that it's "probably" Zeus? Hmm? Oh, you can't. Things aren't going in a certain order that would logically dictate that the next one would be Zeus, so you're just guessing. You guess that it will be Zeus, just like you guess everything in your theories. It may be an "educated guess", but it's still just a guess. The real problem is that you always try to say it's "most likely", or "probably", when you really have no better idea than anyone else. And, from what I've seen you're usually wrong, so then it's most probable that your current theory is as well…

If you like making wild guesses (as we all do sometimes) then go ahead and have fun, but what pisses people off and provokes them is when you say it's "probably", or "most likely", instead of admitting that it's a guess or humble theory based on such and such reasons, with such and such evidence. How you phrase things is very important to avoid provoking people to the point of trolling you.

Personally I like your crazy way of making theories, and I like how you pretend to know something we don't, but if you want to be realistic it's time to cut out the words "probably" or "most likely" from your future guesses.
–----------

As for whether Pluton is buried beneath Arabasta, it's certainly possible. They talk of "reviving" the ancient weapons, so that would logically mean that they were once alive, and therefore their remains are waiting to be found somewhere. However, there's no evidence to suggest that Blackbeard needs, wants, or has Pluton, so don't bet on it.

pure speculation
Why not say he goes to water seven and forces them to build him a spaceship (i mean, yeah, they are best shipwrights). With that spaceship he will fly over to Alabasta, find the Pluton, grab it, fly to WB and kick his ass with it. After he killed WB he proceeds killing the other 3 emperors. After they are dead he thinks its cool to kill Sengok and the 3 admirals plus the remaining shichibukai (i mean hell, hes got a spaceship and uses black holes!!!).
Well, as Raftel is a space island

he flys there, takes the one piece and is happy for a while.
After realizing he put the whole world into chaos he flys away to the moon searching for Enel. He goes friend with him declaring themselves as the lords of the universe. With that one One piece ends.

Sorry if i stole your next theory with that one.

LOL!

FireFistAce 0

@Admiral:

Really… how can you say that it's "probably" Zeus? Hmm? Oh, you can't. Things aren't going in a certain order that would logically dictate that the next one would be Zeus, so you're just guessing. You guess that it will be Zeus, just like you guess everything in your theories. It may be an "educated guess", but it's still just a guess. The real problem is that you always try to say it's "most likely", or "probably", when you really have no better idea than anyone else. And, from what I've seen you're usually wrong, so then it's most probable that your current theory is as well…

Sigh I'm not pretending to know something you don't.

The two weapons introduced so far are Pluton (Hell) and Poseidon (Sea). If you bloody know anything about the Greek/Roman gods, then logic would dictate the next weapon will be named Jupiter or Zeus.

And just because you don't agree doesn't give you a right to troll. I respect your theories, right or wrong, so don't disrespect mine.

And it was already bloody stated that Pluton is underneath Alabasta somewhere. That part with Barbarossa was filler and as far as we know there are no sandships in Alabasta or anywhere else. The mere fact that a ship is to be found on land also supports the theory of them being arks.

I never said I know more than you do. I'm going from what I think. Using "probable" and "Most likely" is because I'm looking at what we've been given and working with it. That still doesn't give you carte blanche to flame me.

And Blackbeard wants to be Pirate King. The Pirate King needs a good ship. I doubt Iceburg is gonna build a bruiser like Blackbeard a ship, so the best option would be for him and his crew to steal one. They are, after all, the evil version of the Strawhats. Their flag even represents Cerberus, the 3 headed dog of hell. It also represents past, present, future, and a lot of other things associated with looking backward, forward, and in front of.

Admiral Wolfpox

And it was already bloody stated that Pluton is underneath Alabasta somewhere.

Then prove it, please.

Using "probable" and "Most likely" is because I'm looking at what we've been given and working with it.

No, it's not. Look up "probable" and "most likely" or "safe to assume" and you will realize they have nothing to do with "working with it". You don't know what Oda will do, and you don't have any solid evidence that leads to your conclusion, so therefore it's only more "likely" in your mind, and not objective reality.

You also have no clue what "trolling" and "flaming" are, apparently. Trolling would be me making a big sarcastic, insulting post to get a reaction out of you; flaming would be simply insulting you. What I'm doing here is totally called-for and constructive. I've said my part, so I'm gonna leave it at that.

The Pirate King needs a good ship.

Not necessarily.

Their flag even represents Cerberus,

Again, you're making it sound like fact. If a noob reads that, he's going to assume that you somehow found out this FACT, when – in reality – it's just your guess!