Blackbeards vs. Mugiwara

[G-Greato]

I think it's quite obvious, that the Strawhats will once have to fight the Blackbeard pirates. I've been thinking about this since a long time but I'm still not convinced who will fight whom when it's finally there.

My guess would be:

Blackbeard - Luffy (….)
Van Auge - Usopp (sniper vs sniper is also clear)
Doc Q - Zoro, or ? (is this a sword he has on his back? btw I don't think at all he is as "weak" as he imposes to be!)

Laffite - Sanji or Zoro (Zoro only if Doc Q doesn't use a sword, then Laffite's stick could be something similar, btw he seems to be very good at using it)
Jesus Burgess - Franky or Sanji ( Sanji only again if Doc Q doesn't use a sword; Franky would be a good match because they're both very confident and loud about their strength)

The others of the crew don't have the skills to fight any of them (exept Doc Q maybe) Some important things: The one of the SHs mentioned first is always the one which would make the whole thing the most reasonable.

! If usopp doesn't come back I can't imagine who would be able to fight Auge. Maybe a hint he will ,at least some day, definitly rejoin…. I've always been convinced he will!

I know it was already talked about in several threads but I think it is important enough to have it's own. If there already is a thread like this I apologise and would prefer it being removed right away!

[The_green_samurai_ranger]

The thing is this, while people are trying to make fighting matches already for the Blackbeard verus Straw Hats showdown. The actual battle may not happen until the actual ending of One Piece. As a final showdown for One Piece.

No offense to anyone make a topic over Blackbeard or anything. I just find it odd that people are trying to sum up the fight before the actual fighters have has true reasons to fight. I'm meaning that Luffy has no reason to fight Blackbeard yet.

[G-Greato]

You seem to forget that Blackbeard is (or was) hunting Luffy for he has a Bounty 100mio +.
Also if he isn't hunting him anymore that would mean he defeated Ace which WOULD be a reason for Luffy to fight him. That is, of course, if Luffy hears of it. But I'm definitly certain he will!

the other parts I'm about to agree to your position.
Blackbeards Crew would make a good setup for a final showdown, that is a fact. But Shanks' would also, you know, so… aghn forget it

[The_green_samurai_ranger]

@G-Greato:

You seem to forget that Blackbeard is (or was) hunting Luffy for he has a Bounty 100mio +.
Also if he isn't hunting him anymore that would mean he defeated Ace which WOULD be a reason for Luffy to fight him. That is, of course, if Luffy hears of it. But I'm definitly certain he will!

the other parts I'm about to agree to your position.
Blackbeards Crew would make a good setup for a final showdown, that is a fact. But Shanks' would also, you know, so… aghn forget it

No I completely understand what you're saying, but just because Blackbeard is chasing after Luffy does not mean that Luffy cares about Blackbeard, yet.

Even if Luffy heard about Ace getting beaten up by Blackbeard, does not mean that Luffy would fully care since Luffy knows that it was Ace's job to find Blackbeard, and Ace can take care of himself.

I just believe that the only real reason besides Blackbeard hurting the rest of the crew, Luffy would just battle Blackbeard over the ownership of One Piece.

[psolaras]

man when i see your post i wanna kidnap oda and ask him wht happened with whitebeard and ace and shanks and blackbeard!

if blackbeard somehow runs away i hope the next time,blackbeard will find the SH and then ace and shanks hop in!

[The_green_samurai_ranger]

@psolaras:

man when i see your post i wanna kidnap oda and ask him whet happened with whitebeard and ace and shanks and blackbeard

My comment made you want to commit a grand felony? Yes, my goal in life is complete.

All that I am doing is applying logic to the situation and the outcome of the Blackbeard verus Ace fight is either Ace joins up with Blackbeard or is completely beaten by him. This is Oda's pattern of storyline development.

[G-Greato]

No I completely understand what you're saying, but just because Blackbeard is chasing after Luffy does not mean that Luffy cares about Blackbeard, yet.

Even if Luffy heard about Ace getting beaten up by Blackbeard, does not mean that Luffy would fully care since Luffy knows that it was Ace's job to find Blackbeard, and Ace can take care of himself.

I just believe that the only real reason besides Blackbeard hurting the rest of the crew, Luffy would just battle Blackbeard over the ownership of One Piece.

I agree with you if you want to say Blackbeard will be one of the most important characters in One Piece. I never speculated when they will fight, I just said it is bound to happen. Also Luffy does care about Blackbeard, you remember back on Jaya, they almost fought because of cherry pie and juice^^. Not that this was really serious but it was an indicator that they do have a promblem with each other =)
I like the idea of Luffy and Blackbeard fighting over One Piece but somehow I doubt their crews will just stand aside and watch.
One more, if Ace would be beaten up by Blackbeard, Luffy knows this and they meet, Luffy won't just say "Hi! Aren't you the one I met in Jaya whom beat my brother up? Ok, see you!".

[The_green_samurai_ranger]

@G-Greato:

I agree with you if you want to say Blackbeard will be one of the most important characters in One Piece. I never speculated when they will fight, I just said it is bound to happen. Also Luffy does care about Blackbeard, you remember back on Jaya, they almost fought because of cherry pie and juice^^. Not that this was really serious but it was an indicator that they do have a promblem with each other =)
I like the idea of Luffy and Blackbeard fighting over One Piece but somehow I doubt their crews will just stand aside and watch.
One more, if Ace would be beaten up by Blackbeard, Luffy knows this and they meet, Luffy won't just say "Hi! Aren't you the one I met in Jaya whom beat my brother up? Ok, see you!".

Yes, but food is not a true reason to fight, they were just testing one another. I can not think of the true way to put it besides that they would not of actually fought over the juice and pie issue.

They may have a problem with each other but until Luffy seriously views Blackbeard as a threat, Luffy would just not care as much as if it were Buggy, Smoker, etc.

[Archibald Desmond Deus]

Ah Blackbeard, everyone's favorite, fat, toothless enigma and the character I'm looking most forward to seeing again. It's inevitable that he and Luffy will meet at some point on the second half of the Grandline, but I, like other posters, that he will be the final villain of One Piece. However, I really feel that the Blackbeard Pirates and the Strawhats should meet at least once or twice before this in a manner similar to Mocktown or even amidst a battle. This gives time for the other Strawhats to meet and form opinions on who could be their potential opponents in the future. If the last battle of One Piece is going to be a 1 on 1 affair between the Strawhats and their respective counterparts on the Blackbeard crew, Blackbeard's mates should be developed fairly well also. Oda's already got a good start with everyone we've seen so far and Mocktown did a good job of giving them all personalities. I'm hoping to see more of that in the future.

As to who fights who, while fights like Luffy vs. Blackbeard and Usopp vs. Van Auger are givens, we don't know enough about the abilities of other respective crewmen to do anything but guess.

[Lazzie]

I'm thinking it's increasingly likely that the Blackbeard crew is going to be the final confrontation, or at least part of the final showdown. They're too similar in beliefs while being too dissimilar in practice; they're both hearty crews that believe in the power of dreams and all that jazz, but Luffy believes in doing the right thing to a fault and Blackbeard seems to be quite ruthless.

With that said, we'd also need resolution with the Navy's concept of justice and Smoker and Buggy's grudges against Luffy, let alone the actions and attitudes of the rest of the Shichibukai and Yonkou. My guess is that the Strawhats and Blackbeards will both be giving the rest of the three powers fits until all three admirals, all four yonkou, and all seven Shichibukai are either defeated or on the Mugiwaras' side. Eventually, it will all come down to a showdown between Blackbeard and Luffy as to who gets to be the Pirate King.

Of course, I guessed all of this without even mentioning the likes of Ace, and we know next to nothing about two of the Yonkou and two of the Shichibukai (three if Croc is eventually replaced), so there are dozens of new variables than can be thrown into the equation. Still, I'm strongly leading towards the idea that the final battle will be Luffy vs. Blackbeard.

[The_green_samurai_ranger]

My theory is that of the how the Matrix storyline played out, Neo was the good side of Agent Smith. Luffy is the good side of Blackbeard.

Blackbeard's crew is the bad side of the Straw Hat's and when the fight finally happens, there will be an equal amount of crew members on Black Beard's side to rival the Straw Hats.

What has not happened yet is the actual showing of the other crew members. Think back to the other Blackbeard crew member designs. They are almost opposite personalities and drawings to the Straw Hats. Meaning that when characters for Nami, Robin, and etc show up. Just imagine their polar opposites to see them.

Hopefully this makes as much sense to everyone as it did in my mind.

[Voodzik]

I started a thread like this before, but that's irrelevant. My theory is that the usopp/van auger fight will take place while the straw hats are still sailing to the island black beard is on. Super long distance sniper battle!

[The_green_samurai_ranger]

This got me going now I want an opinion from my comment I just made in a previous post.

What would Nami's and Robin's evil opposite characters be?

[MAcobo]

@The_green_samurai_ranger:

This got me going now I want an opinion from my comment I just made in a previous post.

What would Nami's and Robin's evil opposite characters be?

points at Namis and Robins chests

Really small and non-jiggely would do the work.

[bevin]

@Voodzik:

I started a thread like this before…

What he said. http://apforums.net/showthread.php?t=8636 Interesting discussion, though.