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      Ok, i'm gonna level with you people, I don't like yaoi. I'm not a homophobe, its just that it seems incredibly stupid to pay more for manga/anime that's basically two guys saying "I like you.", with a bunch of unlogical stuff happening inbetween. So, why am I saying this to you people? Well, i'm making a video for Youtube, in which I talk about yaoi and things connected to it. I will mention the crazy fan girls, and will most probably go off on a rant as to why these people annoy me to no end. (No, not all of you are crazy, just the "special" ones.) So, since i'm doing this, I will have some actual opinions from people who enjoy yaoi, so now certain someones will know to shut their mouths when it comes to this subject.

      Any comments, questions?

      P.S.: I have some questions for people who like yaoi:

      Why do you enjoy it?
      Has anyone annoyed you due to them liking yaoi a bit too much?
      Is there a reason some guys like this stuff as well?

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        How could you not like yaoi? I mean here you've got two pretty boys going at it like street brawlers, but with the cheesiness of a third-rate movie.

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          I do not comprehend? Ok so you do not like a certain genre of manga? So what is the big deal? A person can not like everything.

          I hate the popular American shows like Lost, 24, etc. Do you hear me complaining the American television is nonwatchable now in a topic? No, well except for this topic I have not really said anything about it.

          Easy answer, if you do not like it, then do not watch it or read it.

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            Why make a video about something you don't like? Just to insult fangirls?

            There's no problem with liking yaoi, to each his/her own, I say.

            "To expresso or to latte, that is the question: Whether 'tis tastier on the buds to choose white mocha over plain, or to take a cup to go. Or a mug to stay, or extra cream or have nothing, and by opposing them, end one's heartache: To froth, to sprinkle: perchance to drink!" Member of AIDS!

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              @Omni:

              it seems incredibly stupid to pay more for manga/anime that's basically two guys saying "I like you.", with a bunch of unlogical stuff happening inbetween.

              Pay more? So Gravitation DVDs cost more than, say, Fushigi Yuugi? What?

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                I´m not an Otaku, but I really like yaoi. Watching two hot guys while they´re….😁...it´s just fun!
                I also know some guys who like yaoi and they are´nt gay...
                Everyone should watch what he or she likes...there is no need to make a video about it just because you don´t like it...

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                  Okay this might end up in a rant to bear with me, please.

                  I like yaoi. I always liked to consider myself the "resident yaoi lover". But now I see I'm less unique. Darn you other fans! 👅

                  Anyways, like I said I like yaoi. I've seen people pay more for book with even weirder or less plot than some of the comics I've seen written. I mean just look at shoujo…don't even get me started on it. And I've seen illogical things happen in oh so many other genre so it's not really a big deal. (again shoujo...)

                  Personally, I don't see the need to make a video about not liking yaoi. But then again, youtube is made for this kind of thing so why not? Although I'm curious about what you're going to say. Not in need to know but still curious.

                  I figure you've been harrassed by one of those fangirls? Trust me it happens to everyone and on any kind of subject. It might be one big reason people don't like yaoi: death by fangirl squealing. Then again I don't see people going on hating FF7 just because they heard their 30th fangirl screaming about how they are going to have Cloud's, Sephiroth's and/or Vincent's babies. I've heard them yet I'm not bitter about it....I think. :blink:
                  The way I see it. If someone starts to fangirlize about yaoi you can either ignore her (if she's not talking to you) or tell her to keep it to herself (if she is talking to you personally).

                  To answer your questions:
                  I like yaoi. I don't know why really. I like to think it's more than just wanting to see more guys in only one series. But then again it might be...go fig.

                  I remember going to Otakuthon and went into a room filled with fangirls who liked yaoi. Think I was in my element? I did too...boy was I wrong. But even then I don't think I've been annoyed about someone liking yaoi too much. So I'll still say no.

                  I'm not a guy. But I know and seen some guys like yaoi without being gay. The same way I know girls who read/like lesbian stuff without being lesbian themselves. It's all about taste I guess. You don't need a reason to like something if you are doing it for yourself. Now, if you are trying to get someone to like it, now you need reasons.

                  I've got a question for those who don't like yaoi. Do you like yuri/lesbian/girl just kissing? If you do than isn't it the same?

                  PS: Is there a pro boy love thread here?

                  Fans make the fandom. What is your fandom made of?

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                    Hmmmm, can't say I go orgasmic about Yaoi, but I really don't mind it, I don't exactly go out of my way to look at it, but if I am shown it I'll look at it, yea, I blame Dame Neko shakes fist

                    Although I like Yuri more 😛

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                      Why do you enjoy it?
                      Because it provides the kind of fanservice you don't normally see in the actual show… Like I know that Zoro isn't going to have wild hot mansex with Sanji or Kaku XD I just find it more arousing than real guys going at it personally... Dunno why, although my desktop of Gackt and Hyde making out is a different story... and of course my lovely JackxWill avi... mmm ❤

                      sometimes its a cure for the itch, ok…

                      Has anyone annoyed you due to them liking yaoi a bit too much?
                      Only when they are superficial about it, like they only like the really pretty yaoi, as opposed to something like One Piece or Initial D
                      Or shota fangirls… Ew...ewewew.. now THAT I do not touch.

                      Is there a reason some guys like this stuff as well?
                      I don't see a problem with guys who enjoy yaoi, even if they are not gay. That to me, says that they are confident enough in their manliness instead of getting jealous of their girlfriend for liking it…

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                        Why do you enjoy it?
                        I find it more erotic than hetero sex. The fact that it's slightly more taboo adds to the flavor. It's the same reason I like yuri.

                        Has anyone annoyed you due to them liking yaoi a bit too much?
                        Hm… I don't think so. I'm usually right along with them, but I don't squeal, I swear. How can someone like yaoi a bit too much? Unless they're pushing it in your face, then that's just really annoying. Tell them to stop. Otherwise, it's the same as telling gays not to get married, just because. Them getting married has nothing to do with anybody else but themselves. The way I see it, if someone is actively against something for no reason, they're just insecure about themselves. Not that this is your case, right?

                        Is there a reason some guys like this stuff as well?
                        If guys like it, they like it. You might need to ask them individually about that. But who needs a reason, anyway?

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                          As long as it doens't actually show anything there's nothing wrong with it.

                          I sometimes read Yaoi. I even started writing a Kurapica X Hisoka Yaoi fic, but it was crap, so I gave up.

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                            Why do you enjoy it?
                            I don't enjoy it, but I like seeing some anti-yaoi people go ARGH when I give them some yaoi material.

                            Has anyone annoyed you due to them liking yaoi a bit too much?
                            Not annoyed, but scared me. I thought I'm pretty much okay with it, but hard core yaoi fangirls are… just plainly scary.

                            Is there a reason some guys like this stuff as well?
                            Probably they'll get more attention from yaoi fangirls. They're girls, after all :x That, and it's fun entertaining girls.

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                              I'm more of Hetero fan, but I won't like two guys relationship unless they are rivals XD that makes more sense IMO.

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                                I can't stand yaoi myself. Yuri, on the other hand, I love.

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                                  I have to say, thanks for not calling me a homophobe. Usually, if I were to go on a different forum, (Say, a Naruto forum) I would have been yelled at many times. Also, to make things clear:

                                  I don't hate yaoi, I just don't enjoy it.

                                  I don't enjoy yuri, or any same sex stuff for that matter.

                                  I've heard several accounts of people paying $16 for a yaoi manga. A bit too much?

                                  I have nothing agianst fangirls who like it, but when they have to automatically assume that I hate homosexuals, that's just wrong. It's only drawings, people! And no, i've never been personally annoyed by a fangirl, but i've seen many people who were bombarded by them just because they said they don't see what's with yaoi.

                                  So, does that clear a few things up?

                                  Edit: I'm making the video becuase I feel like expressing how I feel about yaoi and things connected to it. Many of the videos on Youtube are extremely pro-yaoi, with theur creators being really unacceptive of how others feel about it. (I.e.: They say you're a homophobe for not liking it.)

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                                    I don't mind it until people start injecting it into places where it doesn't exist, or looking for any minute possibility in any other form of entertainment (OMG, they really don't like each other THEY MUST WANT EACH OTHERS' COCKS!!!!!)

                                    At that point I'm like "can't you just enjoy _____ for what it is, instead of trying to force your hobby onto it?"

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                                      I don't like Yaoi but i do like Gravition but only for the chibis i like Yuri and Loli the most aslong if they don't have pubic hairs

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                                        @Conekiller:

                                        I don't mind it until people start injecting it into places where it doesn't exist, or looking for any minute possibility in any other form of entertainment (OMG, they really don't like each other THEY MUST WANT EACH OTHERS' COCKS!!!!!)

                                        At that point I'm like "can't you just enjoy _____ for what it is, instead of trying to force your hobby onto it?"

                                        Amen!
                                        THAT is my main problem with Yaoi and especially in german forums…it's terrible! The problem is, those girls really THINK that everyone and everything is gay and they hate girls for the single fact that they are NOT gay males...(must be a struggle to live, looking in the mirror etc.)
                                        And I want to smack someone whenever they start to make up gay couples of real people or try to force male cosplayers to kiss each other...and lets not talk about the whole Yugi and/or Kaiba raping Kaibas younger brother thing they got going and act in cosplays... (seeing three girls, dressed like male cartoon characters, trying to make yaoi on a convention is the dumbest thing I've ever seen...no, wait, Cloud walking around at a con as Vincents slave with a dog collar and at some point the two girls started kissing each other, THAT was the dumbest thing ever)
                                        It's so much different from something like this forum. Here people, even those that like it, make fun of it, noone actually believes that Sanji will be the father of Zoro's child or that Vegeta and Goku love each other or something like this...on german forums every second post "friendship could always turn into love blabla, we never know"

                                        Now, I don't have a problem with Shonen Ai, I love Gravitation and Tokyo Babylon is just awesome (and Subaru and Seishirou are, besides Sorata and Arashi, the best couple of X!), but those had a plot. Most shonen ai (or shoujo ai) are just crap, selling well because of hot guys/girls getting busy for no reason. This stuff is selling like it's the otaku's bible, but everytime, I have to pray to god that they will release the next Volume of 20th Century Boys because noone is buying it.

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                                          Yaoi, I hate it, but Yuri to me is :wub:

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                                            @Omni:

                                            I have to say, thanks for not calling me a homophobe. Usually, if I were to go on a different forum, (Say, a Naruto forum) I would have been yelled at many times.

                                            Well I guess that we are more mature then those people and I see nothing wrong in not liking a genre.

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                                              hmm… yaoi, the joy of love without any other women interfering.

                                              Ah well, I am just a sucker for love stories, don't care if it is some cheap doktor novelle, higher literature or a nicely animated story about two guys going at it.

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                                                Yaoi, I hate it, but Yuri to me is :wub:

                                                fine with me to like, or hate one or the other, but you can't bash one, and not the other. That's just hypocritical.

                                                I don't mind a bit of mild yaoi. I think it's cute. And you don't see it often in regular media, because it's so taboo, so it's nice to see something different. I have nothing against Yuri, but that is not taboo, so I see it all the time, and it's just boring.

                                                hates that yaoi is taboo, but Yuri isn't. just not right

                                                Oh ya, and I hate any obnoxios fangirl/boy. they're all annoying. it doens't matter what they like.

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                                                  A really good yuri anime is Kashimashi, mainly because there is no true nudity shown but more of a love story that involves multiple characters trying to understand everyone's feelings.

                                                  Whoa, after reading that statement above, it does sound like an soft core porno.

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                                                    When I first started interneting, i frequented 4chan and a forum where the major population were people like PirateNeko(No offense or anything, I'm just using Miss neko an example) and at first it scared me(Leorio x Kurapica made me feel REALLY sad inside) but then i got used to it and my eyes stopped bleeding. And I still see a lot of it these days since I have a lot of fangirl friends.

                                                    So now I don't really "enjoy" it, but its fun to send to people you don't like and scare their brains out. Spamming retarded kiddy forums like neopets with mansmut is hillarious too. I don't really like hentai or yuri either since it doesn't start the wanted reaction 😧

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                                                      I don't really like yaoi, but it doesn't bother me either, I'm kind of used to it around. If you don't like something, why make a big stink about it? Somebody somewhere hates something you like. I know I wouldn't really want to see people make anti-One Piece videos. But people will do what they will. Better to be creative then just going around bashing things I guess.

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                                                        Yeah, as to my actual stance on yaoi, I like pretty much any pairing between two characters who have interesting interactions with each other and who actually have some valid potential together.

                                                        In OP terms, I love Fullbody/Jango, but I don't like Zoro/Sanji or anything because it just seems so out of character. For other fandoms… In Buffy, I absolutely love the idea of Warren/Andrew, which actually has a good deal of evidence, but think throwing Spike together with any other random good looking guy is the stupidest thing in the universe.

                                                        One of my favorite pairings ever is a yuri one, Leena and Tune from Megami Kouhosei. I like Nami/Vivi a lot too, and a lot more, but then something like Willow and Kennedy on Buffy... it was AWFUL and I HATED it.

                                                        Het pairings... are actually the most controversial in a lot of fandoms, which I don't get. They go by the same rules as everything else for me. I love Sanji/Nami, Usopp/Kaya, Buggy/Alvida.... but something like Ace/Robin, while I've seen it done well before, is basically just pairing up two hot characters for the sake of hotness, and I hate that.

                                                        So basically, I don't care at all about the sexes involved in pairings. If a pairing is plausible and interesting, I'll probably like it, and if it's ridiculous or boring and cliche, I'll probably hate it. I think the best example I can give is that when I was in the Digimon fandom ages ago, I simultaneously shipped Ken/Miyako (het), Miyako/Hikari (yuri), and Ken/Daisuke (yaoi). IT'S POSSIBLE, FOLKS.

                                                        But anyway, I think making a video about why you don't like it is pretty stupid. I mean, rabid fans of anything are annoying idiots, that's common knowledge. I think retaliating with an opposing-view video is kind of sinking to, and possibly even below, their level. Which is a low and pathetic one. Just ignore them like everyone else does.

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                                                          Well, I see your point, but i'm a person who likes to let people know how I feel rather than keeping my standpoint on something inside me. Also, how is telling my thoughts on something sinking below their level?

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                                                            Well, I see your point, but i'm a person who likes to let people know how I feel rather than keeping my standpoint on something inside me. Also, how is telling people how I feel sinking below their level?

                                                            Telling people how much you dislike what they like by using the same medium they do, the same form of argument that they do, the same level of hysteria that they do and the same self-assured tone that they do … well, let's just say it's a bit ironic, and is probably not going to win you any converts. It may even lose you some respect.

                                                            Yaoi?
                                                            I'm not a huge fan, but I don't mind it if it's done well and has an interesting, plausible premise and excellent art. I see no problem with paying $16 for a manga -- no matter what the subject matter -- if it's something you really like and can't find elsewhere for a more reasonable price.

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                                                              I'm perfectly okay with yaoi and yuri, but it kind of bothers me that for every ten yaoi/yuri fictions, you get one hetero one. 😕 In fact, some yaoi pairings make sense, although I agree with fin fish when it comes to ZoSan; but I've seen a lot of really weird yaoi stuff (as well as a lot of weird het stuff now that I think about it), CrocodilexSanji and BellamyxGenzo for example.

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                                                                This probably should have gone into my previous post, but … :

                                                                There are better ways to get your opinion across without losing or alienating your audience. One of the best ways is by doing what you are doing right now : having a civil discussion with people who do and don't share your opinion, so that you can find out why they like it, and they can find out why you dislike it, and both can learn something in the process.

                                                                And if that fails, there's always Fin Fish's fine suggestion : just ignore 'em.

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                                                                  @Mr.:

                                                                  I'm perfectly okay with yaoi and yuri, but it kind of bothers me that for every ten yaoi/yuri fictions, you get one hetero one. 😕 In fact, some yaoi pairings make sense, although I agree with fin fish when it comes to ZoSan; but I've seen a lot of really weird yaoi stuff (as well as a lot of weird het stuff now that I think about it), CrocodilexSanji and BellamyxGenzo for example.

                                                                  I always found that 10:1 ratio kind of fun. 👅 Although that's usually only for series with slightly less main female characters. Series like Ranma don't really seem to have that problem. Now if it was for Prince of tennis….

                                                                  I rather see Luffy Zoro than ZoSan anyday. Although that's from watching too many Out of context stuff. :getlost:

                                                                  Bellamy and Genzo**? Bellamy and Genzo**? :blink: Am I thinking of the same people?
                                                                  Because, ya know… they never met!

                                                                  Out of the blue pairings are no good wether they be hetero or homo.

                                                                  Fans make the fandom. What is your fandom made of?

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                                                                    Lol, yea, I know what you mean about silly pairings, although some are canny good (RobinxHina >_>)

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                                                                      I've been a big yaoi fan for awhile now, my friend got me into it. but then again I read mostly any type of manga as long as i like the storyline and the plot. yaoi/yuri/shoujo/shounen really doesn't bother me the pairings are as long is the characters are interesting and i like the story. I have one whole bookshelf dedicated to my manga's and that's where my money usually goes to. I don't like it that alot of yaoi series are more expenses then shoujo series but there are also alot of shoujo series out there that are just as expensive as the yaoi series. It just depends on what or how the manga's printed. Although i love reading doujins for certain series..my main ones are PoT and One Piece doujin…pairings for one piece that i love is ZoroxLuffy...I don't like pairing up live people though. I do it alot for anime series but i don't pair up real people...

                                                                      now to answer some of your questions.

                                                                      Why do you enjoy it? Honestly, i have no clue. I just like it but one thing that has to be there for me to continue reading a series is that the story has to pull me in.
                                                                      Has anyone annoyed you due to them liking yaoi a bit too much? Sometimes. Sometimes i get annoyed when I just keep reading about the same mainstream yaoi or shounen ai series that everyone likes but the series itself isn't really all that great. There's so much better series out there but since it's not as popular or isn't liscenced yet not many people know of it.

                                                                      Is there a reason some guys like this stuff as well?
                                                                      I really can't tell you since i'm not a guy but for some odd reason my friend likes it. When i ask him why he likes it his answer is just like mines…he has no idea...

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                                                                        Why do you enjoy it?

                                                                        I wouldn't say I enjoy 'yaoi' more than other types of fanfics/fanart/doujinshi, but yaoi fanfic writers, at least (sorry ^^;) tend to be, erm, a little more coherent than the het and yuri writers I've seen. I know there's some awful stuff out there, but it's proportionately got more good fics to bad fics than het or yuri. (Gen is best, in my book, but good luck finding that.) Similarly, usually when I buy a yaoi doujinshi, the odds are better that it's not just random smut, and I won't feel like I spent money on something generic.

                                                                        Taking out the obviously non-canon gayness, I think there's more of an emphasis on why characters do what they do in yaoi fanfics and doujinshi, when compared to yuri or het stuff. I think this is mostly a difference in female and male writers. As a female reader, I find more in common with what female writers write; that's not surprising.

                                                                        I only read yaoi fanfics and doujinshi, and look at yaoi fanarts, for some reason–original stories with that theme don't usually interest me at all, such as FAKE or Gravitation. I do tend to enjoy series with yuri (Utena, Hen) themes or het themes (... everything.) Make of that what you will.

                                                                        Has anyone annoyed you due to them liking yaoi a bit too much?

                                                                        No. People who are yaoi fans sometimes do things that annoy me, as do people who like yuri and het and gen and anything. But just liking yaoi isn't a reason to dislike them. If pushed, I'd say that poor characterization annoys me the most in yaoi writers; that and cutting off poor dang Usopp's nose.

                                                                        Is there a reason some guys like this stuff as well?

                                                                        I know some gay and bi guys who are into it. Otherwise, because girls they know are into it, or because they like the characterization or just out of curiousity. Or, because it features some other fetish they really like, enough to ignore the yaoi aspects (well, a few people I know are like that :ninja: )

                                                                        <un-yaoi characterization="" rant="">And I don't see why people say Sanji and Zoro hate each other–do people just not follow subtext well? Even with yaoi out of it, they're obviously good friends. >>;; They fight 'cause they like fighting, not because they hate each other. They'd miss the fighting and be lonely if something actually happened to one of them. Hell, they've even expressed concern for each other at times. I can't imagine seeing them as genuinely hating each other. It's like thinking Robin doesn't care about her nakama or Nami really just likes money or that Usopp genuinely thinks he's the strongest warrior in the universe. That's surface level, the actual characterization isn't like that… in canon.</un-yaoi>

                                                                        And I imagine people go from "they fight but are actually friends" to "they fight and are actually lovers" because of series like Ranma 1/2, Evangelion, Trigun, early Sailor Moon, and every other series in the universe that has a canon relationship exactly like that. Some things in fandom I find puzzling, but that's not confusing at all.

                                                                        People just bitch about it 'cause it's popular… just like I think fangirls push the yaoi hard because they want to gain a foothold in the previously male-dominated fandom, and lately we've been seeing the anti-fangirl and anti-yaoi push back. Eventually we'll reach an equilibrium and everybody will live together peaceably. I hope.

                                                                        "You people and your slight differences disgust me!" - Futurama

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                                                                          Eventually we'll reach an equilibrium and everybody will live together peaceably. I hope.

                                                                          Sounds like world peace. nod

                                                                          And omg, mystic, I love your sig.

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                                                                              http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e284/StringsRuns/One%20Pizzhle/Yaoi.jpg

                                                                              Aha, but if you pronounced "yaoi" correctly, it would NOT rhyme with "owie"! 👅

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                                                                                You know, yaoi is just one of those things that never ceases to intrigue me. I don't really care one way or the other about it, normally, and while I used to have some yaoi that I enjoyed, I honestly couldn't tell you why. And that's just it, most people can't. Some of it might be a need to feel different or more unique, going against the grain, something like that, and some of it might be that it's sort of a new concept here, so it's nice to explore that, some of it might be just liking a specific pairing, or a million other things. I've seen theories posted in other forums about how yaoi might be less threatening to someone than her favorite guy and another girl, and that yaoi isn't so much about two gay guys as a straight guy and a girl with a penis. I wouldn't say that's totally accurate, but I think it certainly accounts for some, anyway.

                                                                                As for why some people feel the need to pair any two guys/girls together just because they can, is beyond me, I tend to pick a pairing I like and stick with it. Some people like throwing two characters together just because they can, I guess, and as long as they're not shoving it down my throat or telling me how cannon it is and why I'm an idiot or a homophobe for not liking it, I don't care.

                                                                                As for me personally, I don't tend to care for pairings that send things too far out of character. Otherwise, what's the point? You're not writing about the original characters, you may as well just slap different names on them at that point. So I tend to stick to more canon stuff, or at least canon-flavored if there's no official canon.

                                                                                Why do you enjoy it? No idea why I used to, really, other than I just like the pairings in question. Some loose theories posted above.

                                                                                Has anyone annoyed you due to them liking yaoi a bit too much? Hmmm… I can only think of one instance off the top of my head, and that was more a case of general fangirlism than yaoi fangirlism. And I'll admit to some annoyance at having to wade through 20 pages of yaoi doujin on YahooJapan to get to anything het, let alone a pairing I actually like, but that's not yaoi's fault, really, nor any one person's.

                                                                                Is there a reason some guys like this stuff as well? I would assume so, since some do like it. Secure in their sexuality, possibly a little curious, possibly they like the characters/story, possibly trying to interest/humor girls that like it, I really couldn't say.

                                                                                And I have to say, I'd be far more interested in this if it were a more balanced project, perhaps more interested in the 'why' than the 'it sucks' angle. But it's your project, you can do what you like with it.

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                                                                                  I hate yaoi, and basically yaoi is invented for virgin girls who won't have a boyfriend 'till they are 30.
                                                                                  edit: but i must include that i don't care anymore about people who like it. they can do whatever they want as long they don't involve me in it.

                                                                                  "Reality leaves alot to the imagination"

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                                                                                    I'm not an yaoi fan but I have nothing against it if other people love it. Same thing with yuri.

                                                                                    I do have seen yaoi images I like and read good stories but I don't like anything too graphic. Mild and sweet is more for my tastes.
                                                                                    I'm also pretty strict when it comes to pairings. I only accept few and I mostly can't stand those which everybody else loves. For example… I don't like HarryxDraco pairing at all but it's still fine with me if others like it.

                                                                                    One thing I can't stand are narrowminded and hypocritical people. You don't have to like yaoi or yuri but what really pisses me off is when some guy is a hardcore yuri fan but insults and discriminates yaoi fans by saying it's wrong and blah blah blah. If yuri is ok then why isn't yaoi? You don't have to like them both but if you really like yuri (or yaoi) then you should also understand that you're not the one who decides which one is wrong. It's only your personal opinion so there's no need to start calling people names.

                                                                                    What comes to your video Omni... I agree with Monkey Spirit:

                                                                                    Why make a video about something you don't like? Just to insult fangirls?

                                                                                    I really think you will achieve nothing by that video but if you really feel up to it then that's fine with me.

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                                                                                      Now that you think about it, i'll probably change my video to the "why/how" standpoint. It'll have some information about yaoi in it, as well as my opinions just to let people know how I feel about it. (I'll only state it briefly) Now, could some of you care to share some info about yaoi for me? (History, personal views, etc., etc.)

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                                                                                        I hate yaoi, and basically yaoi is invented for virgin girls who won't have a boyfriend 'till they are 30.
                                                                                        edit: but i must include that i don't care anymore about people who like it. they can do whatever they want as long they don't involve me in it.

                                                                                        I find this insulting.
                                                                                        contemplating putting a yaoi sig up just for that

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                                                                                          basically yaoi is invented for virgin girls who won't have a boyfriend 'till they are 30.

                                                                                          😁 Yes, the sad cry of the fanboy who cannot get the fangirls to date him, because they are all busy making out with each other–while dressed as men--fandom's weird like that sometimes.

                                                                                          Most of the 'real' dedicated yaoi fans I know (that is, more than just passing-fad teenager types or 'take it or leave it' fans like myself) are adults, many married. So... maybe they're virgins, but their husbands will be awfully surprised to learn what they were missing out on. 😊

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                                                                                            captain ussop, sorry if i insulted you or anyone, though this is my perspcetive. Mearl Box, i don't and i won't date girls who likes yaoi|:

                                                                                            "Reality leaves alot to the imagination"

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                                                                                              Their loss, you stud, you.

                                                                                              "You people and your slight differences disgust me!" - Futurama

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                                                                                                and basically yaoi is invented for virgin girls who won't have a boyfriend 'till they are 30.

                                                                                                You say this like it's a bad thing :

                                                                                                –> Bad that yaoi might have been invented to fill a need.
                                                                                                --> Bad that it might be used as it was intended.
                                                                                                --> Bad for any girl to wait until age 30 to have sex and/or a boyfriend.

                                                                                                Hmmmmmm ....

                                                                                                "Over-thinking,

                                                                                                over-analyzing …"

                                                                                                ......-- Tool (from Lateralus)

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                                                                                                  Girls love a guy who likes Yaoi, you get more glomps, nuff said, worth looking into.

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                                                                                                    I didn't read through all the posts yet but I'll probably do that later. I'll try to answer your questions and such.

                                                                                                    Why do you enjoy it?
                                                                                                    Well I don't really look at those regular yaoi mangas cause they're like weird and stuff. I really just look at yaoi hentai.

                                                                                                    Has anyone annoyed you due to them liking yaoi a bit too much?
                                                                                                    Yes, I saw a glimpse of what someone said earlier talking about virgin girls and stuff. But yea basically they bother me a little cause they're so weird about it. Don't get me wrong I can be friends with them and such and I'm not trying to be mean but most of them are hyper active and not completely easy on the eyes. At least the ones I know. I mean I only know a few real hot girls who like yaoi and don't act too weird about it.

                                                                                                    Is there a reason some guys like this stuff as well?
                                                                                                    The only reason I can say is they're gay. I mean I myself am bisexual and look at yaoi hentai.

                                                                                                    I think that was all your questions if you want more information or something I'll try to help you out.

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                                                                                                      I'll try to interject my opinion here from the same side- feel free to flame as much as you want. 🙂

                                                                                                      Yaoi/Yuri is almost like sexuality:
                                                                                                      Some people freak out when they see girl holding hands with another girl, or vice versa; guys holding hands with each other.
                                                                                                      Some think it's cute.
                                                                                                      Some don't care, and are straight, as long as they're not too public about it.
                                                                                                      It's not too pretty seeing hetero sexual couples show too much PDA either.

                                                                                                      Anyway, I'm the one with the last opinion; I feel the same way for Yaoi/Yuri.

                                                                                                      Though I don't really like Yuri or Yaoi because it kinda ruins the image of the character for me. If Zoro really existed and saw drawings of himself making out with Luffy, I think he'd gag. It's just so…out of character. But hey- that's just my opinion.

                                                                                                      So as long as peole aren't showing off their Yaoi/Yuri stuff or keep talking about it in places they shouldn't be, I feel it's fine. But I don't think people have the right to be insulting those who do like it. People don't have the same interests- they don't have to share yours. 😃

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                                                                                                        I agree with you on that Fleur I hate how people want to talk about it in like places that don't need it. Like I was at a game board and we were talking about Mortal Kombat and this one guy would not stop going on about gay gamers and the kombatants being gay and stuff.

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