Whitebeard and roger questions

psolaras

well my questions are completely different

except of the division's captains do you think whitebeard has other nakama stronger that don't have that kind of responsibilities like a navigator,a cook etc or his super strong nakama are all division captains? and what will happen with ace? will he become the first division captain (if those captains are the strongest) or he will join the SH after the blackbeard arc or later?
and who made that scar to whitebeard?

2)and since roger was the strongest along with whitebeard and had nakama like shanks and whitebeard isn't dead,how do you think roger was caught?
i say one of his nakama betrayed him

we dont know anything yet about his crew structure. 2) We know that Luffy grandfather had captured Roger, i personaly believe that Gold Roger let him self be capture because he had lived his life to the fullest, he had found everything that was there to be found.

anvilofstars

@Lateralles:

we dont know anything yet about his crew structure. 2) We know that Luffy grandfather had captured Roger, i personaly believe that Gold Roger let him self be capture because he had lived his life to the fullest, he had found everything that was there to be found.

Ummm I dont think Luffy's Gramps captured Roger. It only says cornered multiple times, but he was never able to capture him.
Unless you can point out a different part of the manga where it does say Garp captured Roger.

@psolaras:

well my questions are completely different

except of the division's captains do you think whitebeard has other nakama stronger that don't have that kind of responsibilities like a navigator,a cook etc or his super strong nakama are all division captains? and what will happen with ace? will he become the first division captain (if those captains are the strongest) or he will join the SH after the blackbeard arc or later?
and who made that scar to whitebeard?

2)and since roger was the strongest along with whitebeard and had nakama like shanks and whitebeard isn't dead,how do you think roger was caught?
i say one of his nakama betrayed him

its obvious that the division Captains are of his stronger crew members. and shanks is 2nd division captain and there is already a 1st one, so i doubt he will become the 1st.
2)That kinda made me wonder too i mean the king of pirates captured with wooden cuffs and killed by too normal guards with spears 0_o and how the king of pirates just so happen to look like the stereotipical pirate.

WHITEBEARD

Rogers gave The Whitebeard his scar.

FireFistAce 0

@WHITEBEARD:

Rogers gave The Whitebeard his scar.

We don't know that either. They fought and came out even, but that doesn't mean Roger was the person who wounded him.

He says to Shanks, "Seeing your wound makes my wound that I got from that bastard ache…", which, to me, means that Roger didn't give him that wound. I doubt he hated Roger. I think it was either Shanks' father, or someone else that's related to Shanks that wounded Whitebeard.

psolaras

@Fire Fist:

We don't know that either. They fought and came out even, but that doesn't mean Roger was the person who wounded him.

He says to Shanks, "Seeing your wound makes my wound that I got from that bastard ache…", which, to me, means that Roger didn't give him that wound. I doubt he hated Roger. I think it was either Shanks' father, or someone else that's related to Shanks that wounded Whitebeard.

couldn't have said it better

@Apocalypes:

its obvious that the division Captains are of his stronger crew members. and shanks is 2nd division captain and there is already a 1st one, so i doubt he will become the 1st.

well it is hard to tell,everyone thought in the beginning that whitebeard has two divisions and ace is the leader of the second and whitebeard of the first

but now he has other division captains too and we haven't seen yet a cook or a doctor,well on the other hand he has nurses and his crew with such special abilities might just be weak but if shanks was a trainee in roger's ship imagine the other monsters roger would have had for nakama.how could whitebeard have only two monster people? (since ace wasn't born then)

on the other hand again both roger and WB have many useless nakama

well we'll see,oh and ace could take the first division's place and make him second division's captain,the question is do you think he will or he will join the SH?

WHITEBEARD

@Fire Fist:

He says to Shanks, "Seeing your wound makes my wound that I got from that bastard ache…", which, to me, means that Roger didn't give him that wound. I doubt he hated Roger.

to me that means rogers gave him that scar. he fought roger alot/and hes rogers rival/fought rogers as an equal, and just cuz he called him a bastard dont mean he hated rogers that could just be talk among rivals.

psolaras

@WHITEBEARD:

to me that means rogers gave him that scar. he fought roger alot/and hes rogers rival/fought rogers as an equal, and just cuz he called him a bastard dont mean he hated rogers that could just be talk among rivals.

i don't understand why he didn't say "the wound roger gave me",it isn't clear, the wound might have been done from mihawk since he is also highly linked with shanks

WHITEBEARD

@psolaras:

i don't understand why he didn't say "the wound roger gave me",it isn't clear, the wound might have been done from mihawk since he is also highly linked with shanks

Why would he…....like I said talk amoung rivals, when whitebeards crew went at with rogers who do you think Whitebeard fought the whole time? BUGGY
no he fought Rogers.

I geuss you need Oda to state every lil thing in one piece. huh

FireFistAce 0

@WHITEBEARD:

to me that means rogers gave him that scar. he fought roger alot/and hes rogers rival/fought rogers as an equal, and just cuz he called him a bastard dont mean he hated rogers that could just be talk among rivals.

But think about the context he says it in. "Seeing you" indicates that Shanks triggers that memory. There were many people on Roger's ship, why would Shanks specifically trigger that memory of Roger? I'm sure Shanks had real parents in addition to Roger being a parent-figure during his tenure on Roger's crew. Plus, Shanks is the only person in the series to have Red hair, he had to get it from somewhere.

As for the other question, Van Auger, Jesus Burgess, Doc Q and Lafitte seem a little too skilled to just be "picked up" by Blackbeard. I think it's a safe bet that they were part of Whitebeard's crew.

Hyper Dingo

dont worry…talking to whitebeard is like talking to a wall....

WHITEBEARD

@Fire Fist:

But think about the context he says it in. "Seeing you" indicates that Shanks triggers that memory. There were many people on Roger's ship, why would Shanks specifically trigger that memory of Roger?

Shanks was apart of gold d rogers crew. when whitebeard saw shanks it reminded/trigger the memory of the goood old dayz/ wars/one on one fights with gold rogers.

Whitebeard: You've certainly made a name for yourself,
Since your days as a simple cabin boy…
On Gol D. Roger's ship...!!!

Page 10 -

Whitebeard: We fought with Roger so often,
you learn to recognize faces in battle...
What happened to that funny guy with the red nose? He dead already?

shanks was a cabin boy back then but just like Whitebeard said you learn to reconginze faces in battle.

whitebeard + shanks = memorys of goog old dayz

ONEinchPUNCH

I can't prove who scared whitebeard but i know it couldn't have been shanks because he wouldn't have been in whitebeards league at the time. He is still not able to beat whitebeard because he is the strongest in the world. So if after all this time he is still inferior to whitebeard so I doubt he could have even scratched him in the earlier days

FireFistAce 0

Well, I still don't think that Whitebeard would call Roger a bastard.

You know, I always wondered if it was just slightly possible that Akainu was Shanks' older brother or father. That would be an interesting twist to things.

WHITEBEARD

@Hyper:

dont worry…talking to whitebeard is like talking to a wall....

:shocked: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

psolaras

@WHITEBEARD:

Shanks was apart of gold d rogers crew. when whitebeard saw shanks it reminded/trigger the memory of the goood old dayz/ wars/one on one fights with gold rogers.

Whitebeard: You've certainly made a name for yourself,
Since your days as a simple cabin boy…
On Gol D. Roger's ship...!!!

Page 10 -

Whitebeard: We fought with Roger so often,
you learn to recognize faces in battle...
What happened to that funny guy with the red nose? He dead already?

shanks was a cabin boy back then but just like Whitebeard said you learn to reconginze faces in battle.

whitebeard + shanks = memorys of goog old dayz

the phrase was:
"we competed so much with roger's ship that even admist the killing a strange familiarity developed"

and then he said:
"it's only been a moment for me,those who say it's a legend aren't few,the days of duelling with you and hawk eyes are still fresh in my ears"

so since everythink WB said to shanks was related with their battles and "that bastard" is roger since it is implied then "the days of duelling with you and hawk eyes are still fresh in my ears" means that hawk eyes was in whitebeards ship?

hawk eyes propably wasn't in WB's ship so everything those two discussed may have not been related to roger crew vs WB crew and "that bastard" might have not been related too

WHITEBEARD

@psolaras:

the phrase was:

hawk eyes propably wasn't in WB's ship so everything those two discussed wasn't related to roger crew vs WB crew fights and "that bastard" might have not been related too

No bubby the phase is

Whitebeard: It passed in the blink of eye, to me…
But plenty already speak of them as legends.
The days of the duels between you and Hawk-Eyes,
they are still fresh in my ears...

got it form stephen manga

all I know is when he said BASTARD rogers name rings bell alot of bells.

psolaras

@WHITEBEARD:

No bubby the phase is

Whitebeard: It passed in the blink of eye, to me…
But plenty already speak of them as legends.
The days of the duels between you and Hawk-Eyes,
they are still fresh in my ears...

got it form stephen manga

all I know is when he said BASTARD rogers name rings bell alot of bells.

:blink: and i got it "form" the 434 translation thread:getlost: ,(both "phases" mean exactly the same),also you didn't answer my question about mihawk since i don't understand what oda implies without every little detail and you do

WHITEBEARD

@psolaras:

and i got it from the 434 translation thread,also you didn't answer my question about mihawk since i don't understand what oda implies without every little detail and you do

well let me answer your question with a question.

HOW DO YOU FEEL WHEN YOU BURN YOUR GARBAGE!

Hyper Dingo

well hell i can go on to say..using whitbeards rational that….......

The knife that luffy used to scar himself was in fact one of BUGGY'S knifes!!!!!

Buggy's nose is all red because he was stung by a zoan bumble bee!!!!!!

Ever since dalton was speared he's been really into a accupunture fetish with shudder doctorine.

Pell survived the bomb attack because he ate it!!!!!

Everyone was so shocked by nami flashing them because instead of nipples she has arlong tattoos.

Arlong didnt really kill bellemere, he secretly MARRIED HER!!!!

feel free to add your own people ^_^ and remember...Oda never said it didnt happen so its all TRUE!!!!!!

psolaras

@WHITEBEARD:

well let me answe your question with a question.

HOW DO YOU FEEL WHEN YOU BURN YOUR GARBAGE!

ha–----ha-----ha you're funny:getlost:. :sick: <---- my answer,now yours?

WHITEBEARD

@Hyper:

well hell i can go on to say..using whitbeards rational that….......

The knife that luffy used to scar himself was in fact one of BUGGY'S knifes!!!!!

Buggy's nose is all red because he was stung by a zoan bumble bee!!!!!!

Ever since dalton was speared he's been really into a accupunture fetish with shudder doctorine.

Pell survived the bomb attack because he ate it!!!!!

Everyone was so shocked by nami flashing them because instead of nipples she has arlong tattoos.

Arlong didnt really kill bellemere, he secretly MARRIED HER!!!!

feel free to add your own people ^_^ and remember...Oda never said it didnt happen so its all TRUE!!!!!!

what are you talking about?

well no matter im zzzzzzzzzz on you.

Hyper Dingo

please dont sleep on me, i'm likely to be crushed.

ONEinchPUNCH

Both phrases dont mean the same thing lol

psolaras

@Hyper:

well hell i can go on to say..using whitbeards rational that….......

The knife that luffy used to scar himself was in fact one of BUGGY'S knifes!!!!!

Buggy's nose is all red because he was stung by a zoan bumble bee!!!!!!

Ever since dalton was speared he's been really into a accupunture fetish with shudder doctorine.

Pell survived the bomb attack because he ate it!!!!!

Everyone was so shocked by nami flashing them because instead of nipples she has arlong tattoos.

Arlong didnt really kill bellemere, he secretly MARRIED HER!!!!

feel free to add your own people ^_^ and remember...Oda never said it didnt happen so its all TRUE!!!!!!

now THAT's funny lol

@ONEinchPUNCH:

Both phrases dont mean the same thing lol

how so??????????? :wassat:

"it's only been a moment in time for me" and "It passed in the blink of eye, to me…"

"those who say it's a legend aren't few" and "But plenty already speak of them as legends."

"The days of the duels between you and Hawk-Eyes,
they are still fresh in my ears..." and "the days of duelling with you and hawk eyes are still fresh in my ears"

where are the differences? they both mean the same

WHITEBEARD

@psolaras:

now THAT's funny lol

It would have been funny, if you had a strong argument to back that joke up.

psolaras

@WHITEBEARD:

It would have been funny, if you had a strong argument to back that joke up.

it's funny to me and not to you since you don't have humor and are too proud

i don't need something to back up what i think is funny

Hyper Dingo

Um actually if you even think before you post you'd see that its quite clearly making fun of you. You insist that Roger gave White beard a scar. You're reasoning is that because oda never said it didnt happen then it did. My post makes sense and is actually alittle funny. Unlike the swill you post. oh yeah and for the love of god dont "zzzzz" on me i might pass out from the stench.

directed at Mr.Beard..in case he doesnt "get" it.

psolaras

@Hyper:

Um actually if you even think before you post you'd see that its quite clearly making fun of you. You insist that Roger gave White beard a scar. You're reasoning is that because oda never said it didnt happen then it did. My post makes sense and is actually alittle funny. Unlike the swill you post. oh yeah and for the love of god dont "zzzzz" on me i might pass out from the stench.

directed at Mr.Beard..in case he doesnt "get" it.

how could that image violate the terms of photobucket???

Hyper Dingo

@psolaras:

how could that image violate the terms of photobucket???

they hate furry's? Actually they deleted my whole folder of furry "stuff" the naughty and the clean….

WHITEBEARD

@Hyper:

Um actually if you even think before you post you'd see that its quite clearly making fun of you. You insist that Roger gave White beard a scar. You're reasoning is that because oda never said it didnt happen then it did. My post makes sense and is actually alittle funny. Unlike the swill you post. oh yeah and for the love of god dont "zzzzz" on me i might pass out from the stench.

directed at Mr.Beard..in case he doesnt "get" it.

What are you psolaras dog did he PM you saying he needs help whitebeard is making fun of me.

and my reasoning is ODA DONT NEED TO STATE THE OBVISOUS.

its one piece fan like you 2 that make us all look dumb.

good night psolaras dog (Hyper Dingo) zzzzzz

Hyper Dingo

"its one piece fan like you 2 that make us all look dumb."

the only one here thats retarted is you. anyone, ANYONE can back me up on this. In fact if you were to leave no one would even care, in fact the majority would be glad.

and learn how to type you sack of used condoms.

WHITEBEARD

@Hyper:

"its one piece fan like you 2 that make us all look dumb."

the only one here thats retarted is you. anyone, ANYONE can back me up on this. In fact if you were to leave no one would even care, in fact the majority would be glad.

and learn how to type you sack of used condoms.

Bark Bark Bark Psolaras feed your dog I think hes hungry.

psolaras

@WHITEBEARD:

What are you psolaras dog did he PM you saying he needs help whitebeard is making fun of me.

and my reasoning is ODA DONT NEED TO STATE THE OBVISOUS.

its one piece fan like you 2 that make us all look dumb.

good night psolaras dog (Hyper Dingo) zzzzzz

he is not my dog,i did not PM him and you weren't making fun of me,you were telling crap and refusing to answer a question i made to you

if i was threatened from your jokes and couldn't answer i would imediatelly kill myself

you didn't tell anything funny and it is clear you don't have humor since you get so furious from the fact that someone is making fun of you

@Hyper:

"its one piece fan like you 2 that make us all look dumb."

the only one here thats retarted is you. anyone, ANYONE can back me up on this. In fact if you were to leave no one would even care, in fact the majority would be glad.

and learn how to type you sack of used condoms.

haven't laughed like that for a while

@WHITEBEARD:

Bark Bark Bark Psolaras feed your dog I think hes hungry.

i think you're the one that i must stop feeding cuz the dog food has damaged your brain

Hyper Dingo

@WHITEBEARD:

Bark Bark Bark Psolaras feed your dog I think hes hungry.

You are about as funny as carrot top…..sigh no you wouldnt get the reference. What i'm trying to say is you're not funny at all.

WHITEBEARD

@Hyper:

You are about as funny as carrot top…..sigh no you wouldnt get the reference. What i'm trying to say is you're not funny at all.

zzzzzzzzzzzzz

psolaras

@WHITEBEARD:

zzzzzzzzzzzzz

i hope eternally like the mut your parents said they sent to the farm

Phenomenol

@Fire Fist:

But think about the context he says it in. "Seeing you" indicates that Shanks triggers that memory. There were many people on Roger's ship, why would Shanks specifically trigger that memory of Roger? I'm sure Shanks had real parents in addition to Roger being a parent-figure during his tenure on Roger's crew. Plus, Shanks is the only person in the series to have Red hair, he had to get it from somewhere.

Yes…. take your own advice, "THINK about the context." Whitebeard meant "Seeing you" triggers the MEMORY of his battles with Gold Roger and at that time Shanks was the ONLY member of Gold Roger's crew that he had seen so it reminded him of the scar Gold Roger gave him.

As for your Shanks "parents, and only person with Red hair" THEORY.....it is complete and utter BULLOCKS.

FireFistAce 0

That's pure speculation on your part. Anyone of Whitebeard's current crewmembers could have been part of Gold Roger's crew, either of the other two Yonkou, Sengoku, etc., etc. And again, why would Whitebeard call a guy he fought with and respected a "Bastard"?

WHITEBEARD

@psolaras:

he is not my dog,i did not PM him and you weren't making fun of me,you were telling crap

And this guy says im "telling crap".

why dont we get back to the discusion and see who "telling crap"

Phenomenol

@Fire Fist:

That's pure speculation on your part. Anyone of Whitebeard's current crewmembers could have been part of Gold Roger's crew, either of the other two Yonkou, Sengoku, etc., etc. And again, why would Whitebeard call a guy he fought with and respected a "Bastard"?

Your chatting crap…... Why wouldn't Whitebeard call a guy that he fought all the time and possibly DENIED him of being Pirate King Bastard?:wassat: Do you understand the concepts of RIVALRY??!!!....COMPETITION??!!!....

Whitebeard is the Strongest manin the world because he tied Gold Roger!!! Nobody else would be able to SCAR him but the Pirate King.

psolaras

@WHITEBEARD:

And this guy says im "telling crap".

why dont we get back to the discusion and see who "telling crap"

you are

answer the question about mihawk i've done to you earlier

and if you had a sence of humor you would delete immediatelly all your "jokes" aka bullshit

you act like god but you know shit

@Phenomenol:

Whitebeard is the Strongest manin the world because he tied Gold Roger!!! Nobody else would be able to SCAR him but the Pirate King.

you simply don't know who else could,i say it's mihawk

we don't know if roger used a weapon

WHITEBEARD

@psolaras:

you are

answer the question about mihawk i've done to you earlier

and if you had a sence of humor you would delete immediatelly all your "jokes" aka bullshit

you act like god but you know shit

I already answer that question and its a lil off topic you know.

ONEinchPUNCH

Don't you people ever call your mates "oh you lucky fat bastard"? I don't but I've heard it many times. It's just how friends communicate these days (where i am anyway)

Phenomenol

@psolaras:

you simply don't know who else could,i say it's mihawk we don't know if roger used a weapon

Wrong, Whitebeard is IMPLYING Gold Roger gave him the scar. Where did Mihawk come from?:wassat: And if you listened to the bartender it was obvious that gold Roger used a weapon.

FireFistAce 0

@Phenomenol:

Your chatting crap…... Why wouldn't Whitebeard call a guy that he fought all the time and possibly DENIED him of being Pirate King Bastard?:wassat: Do you understand the concepts of RIVALRY??!!!....COMPETITION??!!!....

Whitebeard is the Strongest manin the world because he tied Gold Roger!!! Nobody else would be able to SCAR him but the Pirate King.

Uh, yeah, and unless you're an asshole (Which I'm sure Whitebeard is not), you respect your rival and don't use vulgar names, at least not in that context.

psolaras

@Phenomenol:

Wrong, Whitebeard is IMPLYING Gold Roger gave him the scar. Where did Mihawk come from?:wassat: And if you listened to the bartender it was obvious that gold Roger used a weapon.

this explains many

the bartender and the whole roger vs the killer giant is filler,it never happened

and WB could have easily meant mihawk cuz he propably is the second strongest man since luufy will fight WB in the end and zoro mihawk and it is oda law that luffy fights the strongest and zoro the second strongest

and he has a sword and is the person most linked with shanks since they were rivals so WB could have remembered mihawk by seeing shanks

@WHITEBEARD:

I already answer that question and its a lil off topic you know.

roger might have not used a weapon so he couldn't have scared WB unless something else is shown,

if WB by saying "the wound that bastard gave me" means roger simply cuz shanks was his nakama then mihawk was WB's nakama (since he said he remembered their fights with roger's crew as it was yesterday and he can remember the sounds from shanks fighting mihawk),that isn't stated anywhere and we can't imply it on our own like who gave WB the scar since we don't even know if roger had a weapon

not everything with shanks has to do with roger

that someone and mihawk both might be outside the whole WB vs roger issue

unless it is clearly stated we can't imply anything

it's like the whole "aokiji meant roger is luffy's granpa" issue

anyway let's return to the topic,this is getting nowhere

Phenomenol

@Fire Fist:

Uh, yeah, and unless you're an asshole (Which I'm sure Whitebeard is not), you respect your rival and don't use vulgar names, at least not in that context.

What??!!!, it just shows you the intensity of the battles he had with Gold Roger. Did you not read when Whitebeard said their was alot of killings between them? The fact is Whitebeard can call him any name he wants, he was equal with the pirate king period.

WHITEBEARD

Ask your self this

who do you think is strong enough to fight/scar whitebeard in his prime, whitebeard the only man that was able to fight Rogers as an equal, and come out alive.