lolz at Young Coby being considered AT ALL helpful
I think Coni's pet was stronger than Young Coby
lolz at Young Coby being considered AT ALL helpful
I think Coni's pet was stronger than Young Coby
Shanks didnt just said - Oh this scar was made by Teach, nevermind, - he said it hurts and had all that angsty look when speaking about it, so for me it
s pretty much obvious that Blackbeard is stronger than him. Shanks warned Newgate that BB will come to take his position. And Akagami DID NOT know about the devil fruit. BB is very strong in a raw phisical power, and his darkness helps him to be strongest among devil fruit users since he can netralize their powers. Besides, did you forget that hes a friggin
D?! A big strong mature D man with the strongest devil fruit as stated by Oda with the great ambitions, who can easy PWN Ace and who made a scar to Shanks face, with a crew that consists of 4 people who can make certain kings flee away from their contry with the army in fear… Everything
s pretty much obvious for me ;) The strongest person, the final oponent... Ah <3
And offtopic thing, but I cant get over how much I do love the moment in Jaya when after being beaten up by Bellamy Luffy lies on the road and Teach talks to him about man
s dream that never die, and Luffy starts seing mental images of Shanks and Ace... XD Makes me laugh so much. I should be changing my icon now.
I wouldn't be using Wapol as an example of BB and crews strength… That guy was a weakling with a cool fruit.
I thought it had a lot of potential. Wapol was too much of an idiot though.
I thought it had a lot of potential. Wapol was too much of an idiot though.
Wapol certainly used it (with Baku Baku factory) far beyond anything I originally thought it would be capable of doing. Short of swallowing Pluton, I don't see how Wapol could really have done much more damage.
I always thought he'd be able to eat fire and have some sort of fire coating over his arms without receiving damage, even become a ripoff luffy by eating rubber. The dude could have a sword for his dick even! I certainly reckon you'd catch at least a few people off guard with that one.
Akagami=Red hair=Shanks?
Never mind everything else. Just tell me how scarring someone makes you win the fight or in anyway measure strenght. I know Shanks said that he didn't recive the scar because he underestimated BB. But that still doesn't mean BB had the upper hand imo.
I can't see how that is an argument for BB's strenght being greater. As I see it it (together with Shanks comment) just means BB isn't a small fry.
I can't see how that is an argument for BB's strenght being greater. As I see it it (together with Shanks comment) just means BB isn't a small fry.
We`ll see ;) (In 10 years, or 20 years, hohoho)
And yes, Akagami - Red Hair
Al!naJames: I'm not argueing about who is stronger right now. I just want to know how anyone can use the scar as an argument for Shanks being overpowered since he obviously did not lose the fight (as I presume that if the captain lose a fight he will be pretty dead after that, and his crew disbanded).
I thought the topic was who is stronger right now? XD
Well anyway, I think we will be told about that fight in the future, so well see if Shanks lost like Ace did or not. And haha, we
re yet to see Aces face after the battle XD What if he has a scar now too? X) OH AND - I
m sure they fought BEFORE Shanks became a captain of his own crew. Why? Look at Shanks pirate flag. And ofcourse it was long before BB gathered his crew, since it happened only recently. (And Luffy
s so loosing left eye in his final battle with BB, just you wait and see ;) )
Ah you're right. It happened a long time ago. my bad.
(makes me wonder if it doesn't even lessen the importance of the scar since Shanks should have grown in power since then…)
Ah you're right. It happened a long time ago. my bad.
(makes me wonder if it doesn't even lessen the importance of the scar since Shanks should have grown in power since then…)
Has he? Old argument I know. But relative.
Ah you're right. It happened a long time ago. my bad.
(makes me wonder if it doesn't even lessen the importance of the scar since Shanks should have grown in power since then…)
Well ofcourse Shanks became stronger, but so did BB.
It is Enel, of course.
WB can be the strongest man alive, but Enel is above mankind XD He is the strongest god alive.
Both Luffy and BBs devil fruits surpass Enel
s and they are ofcourse stronger by phisical power, so nope.
Luffy's Gomu Gomu no Mi NEVER surpassed Goro Goro no Mi. It just has a natural immunity against its powers.
Saying that Luffy was stronger than Enel just because Enel's electricity could not harm him is the same as believing a Lv.1 Cubone is stronger than a Lv.100 Pikachu just because its Thunder Shock is not effective against the first one.
And Enel is not only about Devil Fruit, you know? He also has Mantra that allows him to predict every single move of his enemy. Too bad he was just too surprised by someone be able to stand against his Devil Fruit to actually use Mantra against Luffy.
And BB, tsc, he has a very big weak point since he can't become "an element" as all the other Logia users. Ace is a rookie. It explains why he did not finished the fight when he realized that, I'm pretty sure guys like Crocodile could have won the fight after discovering it.
Its not that Ace didn
t finish the fight, its that BB didn
t kill him at an instant because he wanted to play around. He could have finished the boy (as well as alot of other oponents) with one blow.
And well its not me, it
s Oda who said that BBs fruit is the strongest one. I agree that Goro Goro was pretty much amazing, but =P And well yeah, mantra is something else… Hmmm well I
m sure if Luffy figured out how to deal with it, so BB would.
Enel would have killed Luffy in one shot, if not for him being rubber..
Luffy wasn't even fast enough to avoid it.
Oda stated that Enel would not big a huge player in the Grand Line
so this statement combined with the fact that his fruit is AWESOME and his mantra ability that was AWESOME, we can see that the people that Oda does consider big players are gonna be SUPER SPECIAL AWESOME LV.100
Oda said that Enel would have a bounty of no less than 500,000,000 if he were on the sea. This would make him a big player.
srn7536: Oda also stated that many blue seas residents would be able to beat enel.
Al1najames: Oda stated BlackBeards fruit was strongest through him right? So technically his fruit is strongest from BBs point of view. there could be another fruit that is stronger in the hands of another user.
Its not like BB just got the fruit and went all - HEY LOOKIT I GOT THE COOLEST FRUIT LOL. He was WAITING and searching for it for few decades, he studied the DF book and so on. Yami Yami no mi wouldn
t work for somebody with weak body, but BBs one of the strongest guys by phisical power, if not the strongest one yet, so it
s the perfect combination of the users body and fruit. BB didn
t say he things it`s strongest fruit, he said the fruit is KNOWN to be the strongest one.
So yeah.
@Al!naJames:
he said the fruit is KNOWN to be the strongest
one.
He said lots of things.
The Blackness Fruit suits his fighting style the best. (and it's pretty much a catch-all against other DF users)
@Al!naJames:
It
s not that Ace didn
t finish the fight, its that BB didn
t kill him at an instant because he wanted to play around. He could have finished the boy (as well as alot of other oponents) with one blow.
And well its not me, it
s Oda who said that BB`s fruit is the strongest one. I agree that Goro Goro was pretty much amazing, but =P
Now you're underestimating Ace, Blackbeard would not be able to take out someone like Ace in one blow. I don't even like Ace much, but you're wrong is saying he's some pushover compared to Blackbeard who can be taken out so easily. Don't get me wrong, I agree with you that Blackbeard will be seen as the strongest character in the One Piece world somewhere down the line. Just try not to put him on some pedestal.
Also Blackbeard's fruit was never stated to be the strongest, just the most "evil." Which makes sense considering that his is basically "the anti-Devil Fruit" Devil Fruit. On someone like Blackbeard of course it'll be shown in it's highest light, but nowhere were the words "strongest" ever used.
Well yeah yeah, I`m just fangirling over him a bit to much probably XD
Evil fruit eh? I think you just read the evil scanlation ;)
Well I mainly go by stephen's translations, and while he didn't use the word "evil" perse, I think the word used to describe it was close enough.
@stephen's:
- Page 8 -
Ace: Darkness?
Blackbeard: That's right,
Commander Ace…
You CAN'T kill me...
In the history of Devil Fruit...
This power is said to be the most wicked of all.
- Page 9 -
Blackbeard: The Logia-type "Yami Yami Fruit." (Darkness Fruit)
I am a man of Darkness!!
You'll get an eyeful of its power soon enough.
Would you mind pointing me out to the one you read so I can see what differences there were?
Well when we were doing russian scanlation, my japanese-speaking friend translated it as "most dangerous/strong power". And Im sure I seen it in few english variants as well… Oh maybe I
m just wrong X_x
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LOL, this thread needed to see this…..
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So, what exactly are you trying to say here, Mr. All Sunday…? Is there some clue in that picture I should be looking for?
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Let`s wait and see who won, WB or Shanks, and then talk, okay? :/
I really don't understand, as far as i'we seen Whitebeard has not any devil fruit's power so i am just wandering is this "strongest man" has something with it that he is strongest normal human, not DF's user… Because if he TRULY IS STRONGEST why the heck he isn't pirate king....
I'm pretty fucking sure that that fight didn't go beyond that single strike.
And I'm also pretty sure that there's some ridiculous obstacle in the way of getting One Piece, or else Whitebeard (or someone else who's been sitting at the end of the Grand Line for a decade) would have gotten the thing.
Maybe Whitebeard just gives a damn about One Piece.
Who says EVERYONE wants to get One Piece? For all that we know, Ace could be the only one with the idea of making Whitebeard the next Pirate King.
Usopp
Yea.
OK 16 characters
Because if he TRULY IS STRONGEST why the heck he isn't pirate king….
Right now there is no Pirate King. Even the strongest will have to get to OP first.
Usopp
Yea.
OK 16 characters
Usopp??!
That guy is weak!!
Everyone knows Sogeking is the strongest.
I heard his "spirit" makes even Shanks and Whitebeard faint.
To bad he never uses it.
Well as far as i see, Whitebeard is in really bad shape, i'd say Usopp would kill him using Once or twice inpact dial on him…
Seriously.. i think Oda stated somewhere that WB is as strong as he was in his prime.
And as much as i like to think BB is stronger. Being able to cause shanks that scarr before even having his sick DF.. Makes me wonder what kind of weapon he used to cause that scar. Trident would be so fitting for a devil like him and it would explain the shape of shanks scar.
But for now WB is the strongest, untill proven otherwise..
Well as far as i see, Whitebeard is in really bad shape, i'd say Usopp would kill him using Once or twice inpact dial on him…
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WELL IF THAT'S HOW IT IS THAN WHAT IS THE POINT IN WHOLE OP? WHITEBEARD WILL BE PIRATE KING AND ALL DONE!
He'll lose the title. Simple as that ;-)
Yeah everyone looses their "Worlds strongest…" eventually, that goes without saying. You either loose it to another, or take it to your grave. Either way, you won't have it forever.
Well as far as i see, Whitebeard is in really bad shape, i'd say Usopp would kill him using Once or twice inpact dial on him…
My sarcasm detector seems to be broken. Could anyone tell me if Brooke is serious or not?
It's a given that WB will lose his title, but the name of this thread is, "who is the strongest in One Piece (currently)" CURRENTLY. Currently it is WB until he's beaten.
in my opinion, the strongest character in OP is always "God" Ener…
but he's on the moon...
White Beard could be the strongest for physical and brute strength, probably also more than a giant (he is something like an "half giant"), but if he hasn't an akuma no mi special power, brute strength remains brute strength, it can win against a Giant, a Sea Monster, a Zoo user, a Paramisha user (mmm...), a swordsman and a fishman, but no match against a rogia user...
in my opinion, the strongest character in OP is always "God" Ener…
but he's on the moon...
White Beard could be the strongest for physical and brute strength, probably also more than a giant (he is something like an "half giant"), but if he hasn't an akuma no mi special power, brute strength remains brute strength, it can win against a Giant, a Sea Monster, a Zoo user, a Paramisha user (mmm...), a swordsman and a fishman, but no match against a rogia user...
Everybody knows that Seastone > DF.
And it looks like there are 3 new types of DF.
Zoo, Paramisha and Rogia.