As I find out more of the series, the Marines and Government seems to be evil people to me. They aren't all that nice and formed lots of secret organizations. What do you think?
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well, the weaklings are evil, but look at ao kiji, he doesn't really look like an evil people, the same goes to smoker or tashigi, it's just that pirates are their foes.
the government is really pissed about the pirate age, that's why some people become evil in order to stop it.
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Aw that's no excuse, the Government don't need to be evil just because they are pissed off with the pirate age. What I see now is they are using pirates as a excuse for their justice BS
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You seriously don't see that it's a reflection of real world politics. There will always be corruption and greed tempered by true dedication and selfless service. Besides, what kind of story would we have if the Marines said, "Oh, those Straw Hat guys? They're not out to loot and pillage everything, so let's let them off the hook."
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Well individuals like CP9 make the Gov. seem really bad just as certain Marines makes them look bad, but in all fairness, we don't even know why they're trying to prevent the Pirate Age. It's obvious that their reasoning isn't as simple as "looting is bad". There's something they don't want found, or want to find themselves. That may be OP, it may not be OP, but in one way or another, it is probably related to it.
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they arent all evil.there are evil marines and good marines, its the same with pirates there are good and evil ones.
i think morgan and rath were the only real evil ones at this time.all others including cp9 fight for justice and accept the laws . -
Originally posted by game2005@May 3 2005, 01:52 PM
As I find out more of the series, the Marines and Government seems to be evil people to me. They aren't all that nice and formed lots of secret organizations. What do you think?Doesn't seem like that different from the way that real world works. Cypher Pols and Shichi Bukais has their real world equalds and inspirations. All in all, most of the people of the Government aren't evil, Straw Hats has just happened to encounter the few and rare bad apples of it.
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Well, the heroes are pirates.
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Everybody can be evil, the problem is the Goverment is bent on terminating all pirates yet they don't care about what the people needs. Plus they seeems to think there are like a 'GOD' and forgot that pirates are not the olny evil in the world.
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Originally posted by VildaHawk@May 3 2005, 04:19 PM
Well, the heroes are pirates.
Draw your own conclusions…
[snapback]41520[/snapback]no more to be said. even if the marines are good we are cheering on the pirates
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Originally posted by joekido the Second@May 3 2005, 02:27 PM
Everybody can be evil, the problem is the Goverment is bent on terminating all pirates yet they don't care about what the people needs. Plus they seeems to think there are like a 'GOD' and forgot that pirates are not the olny evil in the world.
[snapback]41525[/snapback]no pirates arent the only evil in the world but they are one of them and they are the largest threat to peace and to the goverment itself.
and what does the peoples needs have to do with arresting criminals?
on the whole i think the goverment and the marine seem nice enough.
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Well since there are good & bad pirates it is not strange to find a few bad eggs in the government or marine.
We've seen how several high ranking marines often abuse their position for their own peronal benefit even if it means the suffering of the people they ought to protect.
With the world government, I believe it's more to do with politics. As CP9 believed, the world government is justice. They seem to want ancient weapon so that they can control the world without any resistance or rebellion. In order to do that they will use any means necessary.I can't say much for the world government since not much of their true intentions have been revealed but for marines I believe there are still people who are passionate about justice such as Smoker & Tashigi as igalsfy mentioned.
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They probably are :P.
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I consider the Marines to be a mix of those who truly uphold justice, those who are simply corrupt that want control others and increase their standing in the marine hierarchy, or simply believe themselves to be upholding justice but not being particular about the methods they must use to do it.
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Much like in the real world, the government is supposed to be to protect the people, but there is always corruption in the ranks, particularly with those who have a lot of power.
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After reading through the W7 arc, the government now look very evil to me. Man, I want to crush those CP9 with my hands! The thing I hate the most in the world are people who claims to be justice when they kill everyone they come across, saying that there should be sacrifice! Gosh! I hate the kind of the people who listen blindly to their bosses! The boss says, "Do this." He does this. "Do that." He does that. They are like mindless puppets, doing things without thinking at all!
DIE!!!! CP9!!!! GO TO HELL!!!!! AWAY WITH THOSE EVIL GOVERNMENT!!!!
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yeah what you said is true but you should calm down since luffy is going to kick there ass
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Nobody ever likes the guy who always ask "how high" after you tell them to jump.
How is he going to beat them all?
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Much like in the real world, the government is supposed to be to protect the people, but there is always corruption in the ranks, particularly with those who have a lot of power.
Corruption is not something that's new in this world, and will always be around. Its not uncommon for someone to use politics to gain power quickly.
They perform a few good deeds, become the heroes in the people's eyes, and then some of them can't resist the power that comes with it.
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Just seem to be a group of people twisting justice for their own selfish means. That or their just puppets of a bigger force.
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Exactly my thought, but not everyone was evil. Evil can still exist in the most scared place. :lol:
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Guys…..how can you badmouth the World Govt. when you do not even know what their goal or purpose is? As far as we know they may very well indeed be trying to protect people from a disaster.
It would be quite sophomoric to assume One Piece (itself) is just a treasure or even an item of worth. We simply don't know yet. CP9 is just a means to an end and sometimes @ssholes are really good at achieving goals but it doesn't mean the entire purpose is evil.
Then again it may very well be, but as of this point we don't know. Remember OUR heroes are indeed good pirates, but think about everyone they've come across thus far.
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But then, maybe the government didn't intend that the CP9 would go that far into killing people. The CP9 must've overdo their mission.
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No they definately intended that. That's exactly why they're given the right to kill. The other CP's aren't given that right….which doesn't necessarily mean they wouldn't if given the chance.
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jup id have to agree that CP9 indeed are assholes.
but even thought they have a license to kill like 007 they still dont seem to have tried to kill that many people like they havent killed any civilians theyve just knocked them out and the only people theyve intentioly tried to kill are those who pose a threat to them.
and then again sending in CP9 is the world goverments finaly attempt to gain the plans to the weapon,
i mean they have been trying to get the plans peacefuly for years remember corgi coming there every week for years trying to reason with Iceburg but he refused and so finaly they send in CP9 who are to assisinate Iceburg and find and steal the plans since they feel its not safe to let one civilian have something that could destroy the world.
and this may not be a nice way of doing it but still the ends justify the means.