229 is out ! Same page as usual
K-F One Piece 229
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YOWZA, finally K-F gets to Water 7! Oh, how I have waited for this. Me can´t wait to see all kinds of different subtitles for attack names! Off to download it.^^
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Funny. KF finally gets to W7, and the anime is really just one episode away from the part where they LEAVE W7…
I noticed that the ending-translation was different in this episode. Did they get a new translator or something?
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Yeah, I was about to ask the for the last episodes too actually. It seemed strange that Ararara didn´t get left that way but got translated into "my, my". Anyways, thanks for the episode K-F!
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It seemed strange that Ararara didn´t get left that way but got translated into "my, my".
The less random Japanese left in the better.
Anyway, thanks for the release!
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Yeah. Water 7 finally begins. Yay. Thanks K-F.
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@Geg:
The less random Japanese left in the better.
But I actually thought, that "arararara" wasn´t a japanese word after all. I took it for something like Iceburgs "nma", you know a gimmick without concrete translation. Besides, wasn´t yare yare "my, my"?
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I'm surprised K-F didn't use their l33t video editing skills to make a credit-less widescreen opening and ending. (By compositing the credit-less fullscreen op/ed over the credit-filled op/ed.)
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It's nice to see this, we'll finally be able to see the Water Seven arc in high quality, which wasn't availible otherwise, plus it's subbed really well.
I wonder the japanese writing though, if these DVDs don't have the option to take them off, or else if they're leaving them there for consistancy.
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Neat! K-F is FINALLY on the DVD Episodes!! Can't wait to see more X3
Quick question tho, does anyone know why they went with "Cocoro" for Kokoro's name?
I've never seen that spelling used anywere, and I don't see the logic in it (they don't really say much about it in their translation notes) so I'm wondering why they romanized it instead of just leaving it "Kokoro", as that's just the Japanese Word for "Heart".
I mean, if there's a good explanation that someone can explain to me, cool, but I don't understand it now. -
I haven't seen the episode yet, but if it's Cocoro I really don't like it. Looks really akward I think.
Also, can you tell me how they spelled Iceburg ?
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Hedi: We spelled it out in English.
Cocoro… I don't like how K's look. They give a much harder sound and a harsher look to names. So no Konis either.
Ararara... that looks retarded, honestly.
And creditless intro, maybe. Our guy who used to do AFX stuff isn't with us anymore, so we'd have to ask someone else.
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Of course in english :) Misformulated question sorry
What I meant was did you choose Iceburg over Icebarg or Iceberg ? I believe this is the first episode where his name is mentionned, and I still can't find the proper canon spelling for it.
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they used Iceberg on the simple Notion that that is the Correct English spelling and Oda changed the way he spelled it like 3 times (Iceburg, Icebarg, and Icebourgh)
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Ah, yes, I meant what Rin said. We used the spelling that already exists in English.
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they used Iceberg on the simple Notion that that is the Correct English spelling and Oda changed the way he spelled it like 3 times (Iceburg, Icebarg, and Icebourgh)
When did the manga do that? I´ve only seen one romanization of the name in the manga so far which was right before Franky´s flashback.
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Check K-F's Translation Notes, they had it
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Ok, gotta do it when I get down to watch it.
Edit: Ok, I watched it and have no idea what translations notes you are refering to Rin.
On a different note, bleh is Toei stupid! Why air the episodes in HD but not let them make it to DVD that way? With the previous episodes it was ok, because K-F decided not to use DVD material because they weren´t widescreen back then and nobody on the web had the HD raws. But with the return to DVD I thought we´ll get HD Water 7 from the very beginning, but it appears that this was too much to hope for. Bleh, Toei! :(
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Why air the episodes in HD but not let them make it to DVD that way?
As far as I know, the series didn't start airing in HD before 261, and was just standard definition widescreen before that. So, that's propably why. Oh, and not that many people have a HD-DVD/Bluray-player yet, so maybe they just don't think releasing the series that way is such a good idea?
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yeah, people just called them HD, but they were standard Def Widescreen
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@Vegard:
As far as I know, the series didn't start airing in HD before 261, and was just standard definition widescreen before that. So, that's propably why. Oh, and not that many people have a HD-DVD/Bluray-player yet, so maybe they just don't think releasing the series that way is such a good idea?
The series started airing the episodes in HD 720p from episode 207. The DVDs didn't start using widescreen episodes until 229, which is the beginning of season 8, or Water 7. Online, the HD raws didn't become available until episode 261.
As for the DVDs, well, they don't contain the storage capacity required for an HD release (they contain 4.35 GB single layer), unlike HD-DVD (with 24 GB single layer) and Blu-Ray (with 25 GB single layer). Most DVD video is in 480i, which is 480 vertical pixels interlaced at 60 frames, to create a composite of 30 fps 720x480 video. Now, on DVDs, both widescreen and fullscreen video is placed into a 720x480 resolution, the difference comes in the decoding of the video, where there will be information telling it that the aspect ratio of the pixels is either .9091 (meaning that the video input resolution of 720x480 would output to around 640x480, or 4:3 fullscreen), or 1.2121 (meaning that an input of 720x480 would output to around 853x480, or 16x9 widescreen). This means that DVD quality video will only achieve at max a 480p picture. And wow did I ramble on about that…
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Aha, thanks for the explenation Throes. Well then it´s a pity I guess that nobody encoded the HD´s from the beginning. :(
Btw, a question for dythim. Any idea how you guys will handle things when you get to ep 261 already? I mean will you keep the DVD´s or will you go with the HD raws? I`m hoping for the latter so I´m wondering if you already were thinking about it so far or if you´ll bother with it when the time comes.
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Btw, a question for dythim. Any idea how you guys will handle things when you get to ep 261 already? I mean will you keep the DVD´s or will you go with the HD raws? I`m hoping for the latter so I´m wondering if you already were thinking about it so far or if you´ll bother with it when the time comes.
I was also wondering this. Although DVD quality video looks much, much nicer than the HD rips, they just look so pixely on my 42" HDTV when I watch them.
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I was also wondering this. Although DVD quality video looks much, much nicer than the HD rips, they just look so pixely on my 42" HDTV when I watch them.
Really? Well I guess I´m on the lucky side here then because on my monitor there´s a huge quality difference between the DVD and the HD version in favor of the latter. But then again, I´m not watching it on a 42" HDTV.^^
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Really? Well I guess I´m on the lucky side here then because on my monitor there´s a huge quality difference between the DVD and the HD version in favor of the latter. But then again, I´m not watching it on a 42" HDTV.^^
Well DVD video is ripped from a hard copy, where as the HDTV rips are most likely ripped from a digital signal that was sent over the air, as opposed to a hard copy. Also the HDTV rips generally have rougher edges and not as vibrant color as the DVD counterparts. The major quality differences should be noticeable on almost any monitor.
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Well DVD video is ripped from a hard copy, where as the HDTV rips are most likely ripped from a digital signal that was sent over the air, as opposed to a hard copy. Also the HDTV rips generally have rougher edges and not as vibrant color as the DVD counterparts. The major quality differences should be noticeable on almost any monitor.
While I agree there's not great colors on the HD raws, there's still a great detail difference over dvd-rips. The HD raws could be improved of course, but that's up to the people capturing it. I'd sure like to see a screenshot from one of the episode dvd's, to compare with the HD raws.
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Well… for about the sixth time, we will be using HDTV raws.
I'm sure that when we get into the mid 200s that everyone will start asking again... .__.
We have almost always gone for the highest quality raws we can obtain. The notable, and shameful exception is the standard WS episodes 207-228. Toei's fuckup is our shame...
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Sorry, I obviously didn´t catch it the previous five times.^^ Thanks for the answer. :)
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Well… for about the sixth time, we will be using HDTV raws.
About that, will you still be offering SD-encodings as an alternative, the way VP does? It shouldn't be much harder than just resizing the HD-encodings, anyway. I just think that the HD-versions take up too much space.
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The series started airing the episodes in HD 720p from episode 207.
Do you have a source for this info? Or were you lucky enough to be in Japan with an HDTV when those early HD episodes were airing? I've been told by people that seem to know a lot about it that OP didn't air in HD until 261, and others such as yourself that also seem to know a lot about it have said it started airing in HD from 207. I think a lot of people would like definite proof one way or the other.
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Why would Toei animate the series in standard def widescreen just to broadcast the episodes on an SDTV in fullscreen? First of all, an obvious loss of quality would be achieved (on both SDTVs and HDTV widescreen monitors), and second, that would just be stupid.
One Piece aired in HD from 207, it just wasn't released on the internet in HD until 261.
If you really need a source, Wikipedia (yes I know, not the most reliable, but still, I've seen nothing suggesting 261 was the first to air in HD. Until recently, I thought it was just a widely known fact that it aired in HD since 207.) has 2 pages that say 207 is the first to air in HD.
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Why would Toei animate the series in standard def widescreen just to broadcast the episodes on an SDTV in fullscreen? First of all, an obvious loss of quality would be achieved (on both SDTVs and HDTV widescreen monitors), and second, that would just be stupid.
At the time 207 was aired, which was in October of 2004, hardly anyone even had an HDTV - probably less than 10% of people in Japan. However, there are EDTVs - widescreen TVs that can show widescreen 480p signals, but not HD, and although they are quickly losing popularity now, there were a lot of them available at that time, when HDTVs were still out of reach of the budget of most consumers. My guess is that when 207 aired more people had those than HDTVs. Why waste bandwidth on HD, which was much more of an issue then than it is now, when hardly anyone could receive the signal?
One Piece aired in HD from 207, it just wasn't released on the internet in HD until 261.
If you really need a source, Wikipedia (yes I know, not the most reliable, but still, I've seen nothing suggesting 261 was the first to air in HD. Until recently, I thought it was just a widely known fact that it aired in HD since 207.) has 2 pages that say 207 is the first to air in HD.
You are right in saying that Wikipedia is not the most reliable source, as it has had false or partly false information about OP on multiple occasions, so I can't consider it a trustworthy sorce for OP information.
I completely see where you are coming from, and I also used to accept as fact that it was broadcast in HD from 207, but based on what you've said and what I've read and heard from other people on both sides of the debate, it seems to me that we don't really know one way or another and that we can't know for sure until a reliable Japanese source is found. A lot of people used to think that anything widescreen = HDTV, so that may be why so many people think that OP was broadcast in HD from 207, due to things being labeled HD that really weren't. I'm not saying you are wrong (I'm probably 50/50 right now)- and in fact I hope you are right, because that would mean there is eventually a chance that we will get those eps in HD, but I'm going to need something a little more reliable than speculation and wikipedia.
I guess this is starting to get off topic, since either way there are no available HD raws or HD-DVD/Blu-ray available for K-F to use for anything pre-261, so I won't say any more about it in this thread, but if anyone has definitive proof one way or the other it would be nice to know.
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@Vegard:
About that, will you still be offering SD-encodings as an alternative, the way VP does? It shouldn't be much harder than just resizing the HD-encodings, anyway. I just think that the HD-versions take up too much space.
Ditto. I hope K-F throws a bone to those who prever SD encodes. Never been all that interested in High Definition and prefer the more modest storage space. I'm sure K-f will still be releasing DVDrips when that time comes, though.
On a different note, congratulation to K-F on reaching episode 229. I continue to look forward to your releases.
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That we haven't decided yet. :/
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