Yes, Outlawz I agree with you completely. The sure sign of homosexuality from a man is to flirt with a woman.
Characters that should have joined the Strawhats!
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Hattori can't join. Do you know how dangerous he is, with his Birdpoop Shigan attack and 45,000 douriki? He's the real power of CP9.
Absalom's dream involves an unconscious Nami and some chicka-chicka-wow-wow music.
I suppose some characters don't have an explicit dream, but it can be inferred– all the "legitimate" Marines (Smoker/Tashigi/Hina/possibly Fullbody) dream of justice and/or an end to piracy, although the efforts they'll put into it vary widely.
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Tashigi actually mentioned to Zoro that her dream was to collect all the Meitou from Bad people or something along those lines. It was mentioned in passing or so long ago, I only remembered it because it's one of her ending quotes in Grand Adventure. I dunno if there's ever been a case where a "good guy" mentioned having a dream and DIDN'T join. It may not happen,but because it was explicitly mentioned like that, I'd be surprised if she didn't. I really don't think Oda-sensei mentions things like that for no good reason.
I think he was hinting at something that's going to happen far down the line, like what he did with Dragon and Laboon.
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@Ao:
Really? What's Absalom's dream? What's Kaku's? What's Hina's dream? I knew without a doubt, it was Franky joining when someone pointed out that he was the only shipwright from Water 7 with a dream.
I'd say that Iceberg's desire to improve/protect Water 7 would be considered a "dream," but, ahaha, it wouldn't make much sense to be like "I will protect this town! OKAY BYE GONNA DO SOME PIRACY :D"
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@Cap'n:
Nero was an awful character though
Him getting curbstomped through the train roof by Franky was one of the most satisfying spreads in the series.
Oh come on, he wasn't that bad… I really like his design, it's pretty nifty compared to... about every other CP9 agent except for Fukurou and Kumadori. He at least was decent in that he didn't wear the same black suit that they all wore.
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As someone else said, pre-CP9 Kaku
Young Iceburg had a cool design and personality, but he couldn't fight as far as we know.
Gin of course because he was awesome.
And Robin's mother if that were at all possible would be really cool to have.. she was so pretty, and not in a pervo teenage girl wearing practically nothing but her panties way.
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@Ao:
Tashigi actually mentioned to Zoro that her dream was to collect all the Meitou from Bad people or something along those lines. It was mentioned in passing or so long ago, I only remembered it because it's one of her ending quotes in Grand Adventure. I dunno if there's ever been a case where a "good guy" mentioned having a dream and DIDN'T join. It may not happen,but because it was explicitly mentioned like that, I'd be surprised if she didn't. I really don't think Oda-sensei mentions things like that for no good reason.
I think he was hinting at something that's going to happen far down the line, like what he did with Dragon and Laboon.
I think the point of that was to give Tashigi a reason for a personal vendetta against Zoro. a reason as to why she is so upset by their encounter and why she wants to take his swords away from him?
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It could have easily been explained as she was a sword-otaku or something. Her dream of collecting all the named blades goes beyond her relationship with Zoro, which is why it stands out to me. Also I don't think even Smoker has his own dream. He's just a REALLY stubborn Marine with a strong sense of Justice.
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but if she was a sword otaku (isnt that what she was portrayed as already?) or whatever without deeper explanation wouldnt she either not have such a strong grudge against Zoro or she would be collecting swords even from "not so evil" guys….
well in either case while it could have been done differently it was done pretty nicely this way imo. i dont see any need for it to be any deeper meaning behind it then that.
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nope because why would a marine steal from citizens. And alot of her anger seemed to be from getting tricked into helping Zoro (a pirate) and even letting him into their HQ's, not just getting his blade. Getting his blade seemed like a side note or an exclamation point or her anti-Zoro attitude.
I mean, it could've ben stated that Smoker's dream was to ensure that there was never another pirate king to illustrate his reasoning for wanting to capture Luffy so bad,but it wasn't. He just wants to defend his reputation.
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Terracota, the wife of Igraham. Pretty much like Brooke is a swordman with a completely different style, Terracota could be a master of Obahan Kenpo, a bizarre version of martial arts that even Sanji couldn't match.
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@Ao:
nope because why would a marine steal from citizens. And alot of her anger seemed to be from getting tricked into helping Zoro (a pirate) and even letting him into their HQ's, not just getting his blade. Getting his blade seemed like a side note or an exclamation point or her anti-Zoro attitude.
I mean, it could've ben stated that Smoker's dream was to ensure that there was never another pirate king to illustrate his reasoning for wanting to capture Luffy so bad,but it wasn't. He just wants to defend his reputation.
If it was just that she wouldnt be fit to be a Marine. A servant of justice should be able to get a grip of herself and remain calm over such a thing (since it was her fault to begin with).
If that would have been Smokers reasoning he would have seen in Luffy what only people that know GDR and has been helped by Luffy has seen so far. His insight would have been exceptional but still flawed as he cant see that Luffy isnt really a criminal at heart.
Besides Smokers stationing at Loungetown would have atleast for me been a bit wierd if he has such an active dream…(damn i really get into lenghty arguments about the smallest things with people lately)
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No, I don't even disagree with your points. She may very will not join at all. I do find it odd that she was given a dream with it being such a HUGE motif in the series. Not to mention anyone who's an alley with such a dream joins with the SH's.
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Yokuzuna would have made a great addition to the strawhats. He loved Franky, was really strong and dedicated (and as such respected by Luffy) and the crew is in dire need of a pet (no, NOT chopper !!!!).
As for the Smoker/Tashigi thing: I really like Tashigis design, but I can´t see them joining - becoming a (strawhat-)pirate is a kind of lifestyle (in OP) and both of them opted for the other extreme (marines). Would be a complete character overhaul…. though I see them banding together (near the end, and after some fierce fighting) to defy some greater evil (aka WG?).
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@Ao:
Really? What's Absalom's dream?
It was about to rule all the cemeteries of the world… Quite dumb dream in my opinion.
even letting him into their HQ's
That part was added by the anime version actually. I think she is really pissed with him because he not only belongs to the list of people that she dislikes as also fooled her and made her pick a new katana for him.
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AoKiji at first I was like this guys argument is lame but then I kept reading and I was like Tashigi may actually join. That could be her dream. To collect all of the swords.
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I think i would like to see Alvida join
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@Ao:
It could have easily been explained as she was a sword-otaku or something. Her dream of collecting all the named blades goes beyond her relationship with Zoro, which is why it stands out to me. Also I don't think even Smoker has his own dream. He's just a REALLY stubborn Marine with a strong sense of Justice.
If she wants to collect all the named blades, she'll need Zoros, and I can't think of any non-lame scenario that would give her those swords, or god forbid we get something like "If you have the swords Zoro, thats ok with me, we'll collect them together" how fucking lame is that. She makes a better rival than a crewmate, I don't want a spot on the crew wasted by a lame swordsgirl that offer nothing new but some lame ZoroxTashigi interactions.
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ZoroxTashigi interactions.
Would you rather have Zoro x Robin interactions? Because they've been rediculously in love since Sky Piea. But now Robin's leaning towards Franky, and Zoro is leaning towards depression.
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you know outlawz for someone that claims to despise silly fanboy reasons you got the same reasons in reverse for not wanting them on the crew…
please stop bashing others opinions with "thats lame" or "stupid fanboy reasons"... your misogynist attitude (or if its just fanboy hate) is getting annoying. (you are free to disagree but tone down the bashing)
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you know outlawz for someone that claims to despise silly fanboy reasons you got the same reasons in reverse for not wanting them on the crew…
please stop bashing others opinions with "thats lame" or "stupid fanboy reasons"... your misogynist attitude (or if its just fanboy hate) is getting annoying. (you are free to disagree but tone down the bashing)
If you dont have any good reasons other than "She lookz like KUINA!!!!111"
and just want Zoro to get laid, you deserve to get bashed, she offers nothing new. -
@Lobster:
Would you rather have Zoro x Robin interactions? Because they've been rediculously in love since Sky Piea. But now Robin's leaning towards Franky, and Zoro is leaning towards depression.
Really now? I always thought that Robin would be with Luffy, I see no reason for a ZoroxRobin relationship. But I don't fully remember Skypia…..what happened there to pit them together?
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If you dont have any good reasons other than "She lookz like KUINA!!!!111"
and just want Zoro to get laid, you deserve to get bashed, she offers nothing new.atleast leave it to someone that knows how to do it properly in that case.
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atleast leave it to someone that knows how to do it properly in that case.
That hurt Gorlom, I thought we were friends, now I just might go cut myself. And just so you know, all character pairing is incredibly stupid.
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That hurt Gorlom, I thought we were friends, now I just might go cut myself. And just so you know, all character pairing is incredibly stupid.
lol your funny u amuse me keep it up
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If you dont have any good reasons other than "She lookz like KUINA!!!!111"
and just want Zoro to get laid, you deserve to get bashed, she offers nothing new.Noone in OP gets laid, especially not Zoro, so that would be something new!
Out of all the people to have a canon love interest, you'd never espect Mr.Bushido to be the guy! which is why it actually seemed like there was gonna be a slighlty less cliched romance in the series, but Oda-sensei keeps backing away from it. Since he didn't want to interject romance into the series. Npw that he's doing so much damn fanservice, I get the feeling he wouldn't mind revisiting the Tashigi thing. If only to have another female around to get inviso-raped and Zombie groped.AoKiji at first I was like this guys argument is lame but then I kept reading and I was like Tashigi may actually join. That could be her dream. To collect all of the swords.
lol! I have that affect on people. And yeah, her dream also involves traveling around. And like I said, when Smoker made he reappearance, maybe ppl forgot about it already, he said he would need his own pirate crew. Meaning he and Tashigi are getting closer to Bounty Hunters and further away from their stations as respectable Marines. This opens the possiblity more and more of a team up with the SH's. Actually, Outlawz unintentionally has a good idea. I could see Tashigi joining because she wants to be close to add Zoro's sword to her collection of all the meitou but not taking it from him until she claims them all. Thus she'll need to stay close to him while she collects them. Sorta like Lina's excuse for traveling with Gourry in Slayers.
Anyway, this isn't a thread about how likely or not it is that Tashigi and Smoker will join, so I'll stop beating this dead horse for now.
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Noone in OP gets laid, especially not Zoro, so that would be something new!
Out of all the people to have a canon love interest, you'd never espect Mr.Bushido to be the guy! which is why it actually seemed like there was gonna be a slighlty less cliched romance in the series, but Oda-sensei keeps backing away from it. Since he didn't want to interject romance into the series. Npw that he's doing so much damn fanservice, I get the feeling he wouldn't mind revisiting the Tashigi thing. If only to have another female around to get inviso-raped and Zombie groped.Yea, but Tashigi still has no reason to join the crew, I like her as a rival, but I would hate to see a spot on the crew wasted by another swordsman. Zoro has 2 of the blades Tashigi wants, it makes a good rivalry.
lol! I have that affect on people. And yeah, her dream also involves traveling around. And like I said, when Smoker made he reappearance, maybe ppl forgot about it already, he said he would need his own pirate crew. Meaning he and Tashigi are getting closer to Bounty Hunters and further away from their stations as respectable Marines. This opens the possiblity more and more of a team up with the SH's. Actually, Outlawz unintentionally has a good idea. I could see Tashigi joining because she wants to be close to add Zoro's sword to her collection of all the meitou but not taking it from him until she claims them all. Thus she'll need to stay close to him while she collects them. Sorta like Lina's excuse for traveling with Gourry in Slayers.
Anyway, this isn't a thread about how likely or not it is that Tashigi and Smoker will join, so I'll stop beating this dead horse for now.
I wouldn't mind if Tashigi and Smoker formed there own pirate crew, that would be pretty interesting, but as crew members I just don't see what role Smoker and Tashigi could play.
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well smoker is gathering stronger people to help bring the straw hats down, that's why I can't wait until the next smoker encounter. There'll be atleast one new strong character, what could happen is one of them may join the straw hats
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I just got over the Baratie and Arlong arcs.
WHERE ARE MAH JUNNY&YOSAKU?! -
they just dissappear
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^Cause Oda didn't feel like drawing them anymore… xD
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@Rai:
I just got over the Baratie and Arlong arcs.
WHERE ARE MAH JUNNY&YOSAKU?!Just wait they'll show back up at Fishmen island with a Coby style powerup!
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I honestly feel like only Coby was shown in that way to show how much time has passed and create a since of nostalgia and growth since the very first arc of the series. Luffy's look will never change dynamically but look at how Coby looks now-sorta thing..u'know?
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wiper from sky island.he was very strong
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the closest would probably mr.2 bon clay
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What about… Absolam joining??
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he's too much like sanji
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@Rai:
I just got over the Baratie and Arlong arcs.
WHERE ARE MAH JUNNY&YOSAKU?!They missed being in the manga again by a frog's hair.
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I would like.
Johny Yosaku. Could act like guards and get there as kicked each them time they tried to guard something.
Bon Curey Because of the friendship, but i guess his transfer to Impel down makes it impossible now.
Moz Kiwi. Come one they ventured with Franky everywhere and the crew need more girls for Sanji to play around with. Lol.
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Well I'm a huge Pauly and Kaku fangirl, so go figure.
I was one of the ones hoping Pauly would have joined at the end of Enies Lobby, and personally I would have loved him over Franky. But I can see why Franky joined and all, so yeah, I can accept that without a problem. I would have liked to see him join because of his attitude towards women, being a very conservative person myself. My friends think I'm weird because I yell at them for unbuttoning too many buttons (if any at all) on our uniforms. So yeah, I just loved his attitude, never have I seen a character like him.
I guess him not joining is fine, but I'd like to see him again in future.
I was hoping Kaku would kinda pull a Robin on us and him join. Really just to satisfy the fangirl side of me. He was a really popular character and yeah… I just really liked him. But I like how his fight ended, with him giving Zoro the key and all. Again I hope to see him in future (-refuses to accept possibility of him being dead-)
Bon Clay fighting alongside the Straw Hats again would be nice, I can't see him as a member of the crew, but I would like him to have tagged along for a little while like Ace did.
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Ace didn't tag along… That was anime only. Don't you just it when things are like that huh?
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Bon Clay and Johnny and Yosaku come to mind…
I also await the day the Strawhats have a huge crew of underlings. It would have been great if what happened in the Foxy filler ended up differently, where instead of dismissing all of Foxy's men, he kept them.
With all that space on Thousand Sunny, it's bound to happen eventually.
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The only people I want to see join the Straw Hats again are **Johnny & Yosaku.
That's it.**