That was one of the cheesiest chapters i have ever seen.
Bleach Discussion
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If you liked luffy's win against lucchi, this really shouldn't bother you.
I mean he had to get an edge somehow. It was either that or shirosaki coming back. I think Kubo made the right choice.
How else would you guys have ended it? I can't see any other way.
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Yeah, it's just the idea of:
Side character: You can't lose!
Main character: Oh, I was ready to get killed here, but you know, winning sounds like a good idea.
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Next chapter: Grimmjaw realizes that the power of friends makes ichigo stronger and sees the light!
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To quote Kingdom Hearts:
"I don't need a weapon. My friends are my power!"
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If you liked luffy's win against lucchi, this really shouldn't bother you.
I mean he had to get an edge somehow. It was either that or shirosaki coming back. I think Kubo made the right choice.
How else would you guys have ended it? I can't see any other way.
Yeah Luffy getting back up because of his friend was cheesy and tons of series have that but the fight was pretty even until Lucchi's trump card.He also understimated Luffy and left himself wide open for the final attack.
Grimm was clearly in full control of the fight since the beginning even with Ichigo at full power.The mask extension out of nowhere was already bullshit but this was a total joke.
And since you want to compare it to One Piece it's like if Luffy was getting owned by Lucchi during all the fight even in Gear 2nd but that getting cheered makes him gain the upper hand.
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The difference with Luffy vs Lucci is that fight was going on for a while, and was pretty awesome. The stuff with Usopp was pretty cheesy and dumb, but the fight felt complete so I had no big complaints with that.
Here… it feels pretty abrupt. "sorry but my friends are calling me to play some skeeball and you're a badguy so gbye"
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Meh, didn't want it going on so long anyways. I liked the ending.
Feels appropriate with the theme of "lack of trust" between ichigo's group this arc.
and again, it's not over yet probably. Ichigo just found the resolve to fight.
As cheesy as it sounds, friendship is a big theme in bleach. So it's not surprising that things friends say motivate them in fights. I really don't mind that kinda thing. I liked it both here and in one piece.
and no Pat, luffy was not getting owned by lucchi the whole fight, nor was he caught off guard. I mean after the 3rd rokuougan, I'd think my opponent was dead too. but enough one piece discussion.
On another note: I don't think orihime is going home with them. Doesn't she plan to negate the existence of Hougyoku?
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I don't know, I don't really think that highly of Bleach, so even if it was cliche for Ichigo to gain the upperhand because of Orihime, the way he caught Grimm's attack was badass, so I forgive it. This is the kind of stuff that makes me like Ichigo sometimes. He can be so cliche and boring, but every once in a while, he gets a chance to be a badass and I love it.
Yes, Orihime does want to erase the hougyoku from existance…and that's a horrible plan.
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Yes it is.
But it is what she thinks she can do.
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To quote Kingdom Hearts:
"I don't need a weapon. My friends are my power!"
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wrong game to quote when looking to justify something
neway chapter was decent Bleach has gotten me used to Bleach so meh
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wrong game to quote when looking to justify something
I was mocking Bleach, not justifying it, FYI.
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! A rough trans: (feel free to point out any mistakes)
! グッジョブの出生のひみつ
Grimmjow's birth secret
! グッジョブ意地でも負けらんねえ!!
Grimmjow has the willpower to revolt even though he has been defeated.
! グッジョブ「・・・いくぜ」
Grimmjow: "… to continue."
! バリバリ全開のグッジョブで
A tearing sound and Grimmjow goes full throttle.
! EDIT: Spacecat has pictures posted at BA. The tearing noise and opening of Grimmjow's body is him going all out.
! From spacecat at BA:
! Grimmjow getting a flash back? He's so dead. -
The fight isn't over yet? Well that's good.
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@Cap'n:
The difference with Luffy vs Lucci is that fight was going on for a while, and was pretty awesome. The stuff with Usopp was pretty cheesy and dumb, but the fight felt complete so I had no big complaints with that.
Here… it feels pretty abrupt. "sorry but my friends are calling me to play some skeeball and you're a badguy so gbye"
lol, yeah I agree, that fight ended in such a lame way, tho I wonder happened to Uliquiorra?
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Why does everyone think the fights over? Maybe I'm missing something from the chapter or something.
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^If anything I haven't read the chapter, only knew how Grimm Jaw was defeated.
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Next chapter: Grimmjaw realizes that the power of friends makes ichigo stronger and sees the light!
Well, I hope Grimm Joins somehow, he's by far the only character that I liked on this Arc, but who knows if that's going to work in Bleach.
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Just gave the spoiler a look, so that's his Bahn Kai then?
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@Freeman-12:
Just gave the spoiler a look, so that's his Bahn Kai then?
And what's the cheeta transformation? Some kind of Zoan Rip-Off Ability?
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@Kaimei-Karasuhebi:
And what's the cheeta transformation? Some kind of Zoan Rip-Off Ability?
It's his hollow form, it's from his flash back I'm assuming. Must be what he looked like before he became an arrancar
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Sorry for the double post
! Grimm has been sliced down the middle by Ichigo
苺「お前の負けだぜ……グリムジョー…」
Ichi: This is your loss…Grimmjow
笑う苺
Ichigo laughs
怒りの表情のGJ
Grims face is filled with rage
GJ「俺の…負けだと!?」
GJ: huh..I lost!?
GJの前に一瞬昔のGJが映る
Grimmjow sees his former self
GJ「俺は……っ」
GJ: I am..
再び、今度はウルキオラが一瞬GJの前に映る
Again the Ulquiorra moment is reflected on
GJ「ウ…オオオオオオオオオオオオオ!!」
GJ: U..oooooooooooooooooooooooo!!
すごい雄叫びをあげる
A dreadful war cry is sounded
苺「う…」
Ichigo: huh…
雄叫びで周りが震える
The surrounding area trembles under the war cry
BLEACH284.THE KING OF DOMINION
回想
flashback
虚圏の奥底
deep in hueco mundo
シャウロンと虚が歩いている
Shawlong and hollow walk
虚「本当にいるのか?こんな所十刃の奴らだってこないぞ」
Hollow: Really, but even an espada will not come down here
シャウロン「…血に渇く奴ならばここを選ぶはずだ…我々が奴の餌」
Shawlong: If someone is here they are surely bloodthirsty and we would become their food.
虚「な…何……っ」
Hollow: er…what
その時虚を襲う影が
Suddenly something attacks the hollow
虚「ぐ…ぎゃあああああああ」
Hollow: Gahhhhhhhh
それはGJ。虚を噛み殺している
It is Grimm, the hollow is bitten and killed.
シャウロン「…素晴らしい」
Shawlong: so wonderful!
GJがシャウロンを見る
Grim looks at Shawlong
シャウロン「貴様の戦いを見た…先日のヴァストローデとの戦いだ」
Shawlong: I saw your fight, the one the other day with the vastorode
GJがシャウロンを睨む
Grim stares at Shawlong
シャウロン「素晴らしい…貴様の殺意は我々虚としてあるべきものだ…あれは貴様の勝ちだ」
Shawlong: Your killing intent is amazing. With you the hollows will have victory.
GJ「ふざけるな……噛み殺してやろうか!!」
Gj: Don’t make me laugh, I’ll bite you to death
すごい殺気を放つ
He becomes terribly excited
ひざまずくシャウロン
Shawlong kneels
シャウロン「我々の上に立つ者が現れようとしている…我々はその者によってさらなる強さを手に入れるだろう」
Shawlong: It is apparent that you will stand up to them, we can obtain strength through you.
「私と来るんだグリムジョー」
Come with me Grimmjow
シャウロン「我々の上に立つは死神に非ず、貴様に負けはないグリムジョー」
Shawlong: We shall no longer let shinigami walk all over us, without you we will lose Grimmjow.
「貴様が王となるのだグリムジョー」
You shall become our king Grimmjow
回想終了
End of flashback
GJ「ォオオオオオオオオ!!」
Grimm: oooooooooo!!
苺を睨みつけ蹴る
He stares at Ichigo and kicks
苺「くっ…グリムジョー!!」
Ichigo: Shit…Grimmjow!!
GJの手に霊圧が集まる
Reiatsu builds up in grims hand
GJ「奴は言った…俺に負けはねえってな!!」
Grimm: You said I had lost, I say when I lost!!
シャウロンの回想
Remembering Shawlong
手に集まった霊圧が分かれて巨大な爪になる
The reiatsu spreads from his hands and becomes giant fingernails
GJ「…行くぜ」
Grimm: Lets Go!
! 全開…!
ZENKAI! (full throttle/all out)LOL ZENKAI
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Hahaha.
Well, I'm actually kind of pleased about this. It's good to see Shawlong get some posthumous use, I always liked his design.
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Good thing I didn't read the spoilers. Sounds interesting.
Of the 3 arrancar to release in the grimm attack, Shawlong was my least favorite tho.
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Ah, so we get to see Shawlong again? That's good news.
And as much as most of you seem to hate the idea, I'd actually like to see Hollow Ichigo take on Grimmjow, at least for a bit. Unless Ishida and Chad suddenly appear and use their magical cheering powers of friendship to make Ichigo go Super-Bankai or something, I don't see how Ichi's gonna be able to defeat Grim without using his hollow powers… or by piddling around long enough for Ulquiorra to show back up and go Cuatro Espada on everyone's ass.
Jumping over to the latest anime episode, I believe my faith in filler episodes has now completely been crushed. This one started off fairly promising, too... and then turned into Yumichika and co. baking cakes. Oh, the shame...
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Grimm is the first arrancar to go bankai/zenkai, right?
Yumichika baking cakes? Guess hes wearing an apron too..?
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okay as far as the filler is concerened I have actually really liked the last couple of nonsense filler episode's. The Ikkaku episode was by far my favorite (but I am a rabid Ikkaku fan so) I haven't seen the one with Yumichika yet but if it is goofy and funny I am down. The way I see it, these episode's are like half hour long Shinigami's cup. Which are GOLDEN! Heh
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Well, if they ever decide to make a half hour of Ukitake burying Hitsugaya in candy, I think I may just shoot myself.
Perhaps I'm just desperate to see Szayel in action…
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I agree the Ikkaku episode from last week was a great filler episode. I just finished watching 134, it was pretty good in my opinion. Only 2 more weeks until the 2nd Arrancar Invasion. Woot.
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@El:
Grimm is the first arrancar to go bankai/zenkai, right?
Yes, he is. For now, I'm going to assume only the Vastrolorde Espada are the only ones who have acheived Zenkai, which would explain why the non-Espada arrancar and Aarroniro didn't use it.
Ever since Eduardo(the guy Ikkaku fought) said arrancar didn't need a bankai, I remember thinking "wonder how long this will last".
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Are we sure "Zenkai" is even a Bankai equivalent, and not just Grimmjow saying he's going all out? I'm just a little suspicious since the term isn't in Spanish.
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Well, "kai" means release in Japanese. So I have my suspicions that what Hrimm is doing is "full release", whish would be like a "final release(Bankai)".
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I always though Ban was full.
I always found it kinda funny that spanish is associated with the evil hollows, and the only hispanic character on the show also has hollow powers.
Whatchu tryin to say Kubo?
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Didn't Byakuya use something called like "senkai" or something during his fight…that shape when all the petals compressed into a dome of swords..
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Well, "kai" means release in Japanese. So I have my suspicions that what Hrimm is doing is "full release", whish would be like a "final release(Bankai)".
The "kai" in "Bankai" and the one in "Zenkai" are different kanji. Therefore, I don't think "Zenkai" is referring to a sword release.
Unless Kubo's making some kind of parallel Arrancar version of bankai or something. The kanji for "Zenkai" do literally mean "full opening" so it could be.
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It's strange that he changes first, and then shouts Zenkai. It's probably just something he's saying.
But with GJ powering up again, Ichigo's gonna need more then some cheerleaders to beat GJ. Bankai level 2 incoming.
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The one thing I have to like in the Bounto arc is when they first get into the soul society and basicaly punch two vice-captain's in the junk.
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Oh yes i really like bleach and it´s the anime where i had my biggest "WTF?!!" moment of all time: the black cat not turning into a man but into a..
Girl?? What the…?
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Didn't Byakuya use something called like "senkai" or something during his fight…that shape when all the petals compressed into a dome of swords..
That's just a different function of his Ban Kai if I recall.
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It's not a sword release. Hes just stating that he will start attacking now.
I'm soooooo glad Kubo went back and explained how the higher level of hollows are formed. I always thought of it as a plot hole that they were really all many souls combined, but when they are killed, there isn't a flood of souls into soul society or whatever.
Makes alot more sense this way and glad he explained it in a very cool way.
Still hoping this fight ends soon tho.
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Just finished ch284….
So its Menos -> Gillian -> Adjucha -> Vast Lords?
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Just finished ch284….
So its Menos -> Gillian -> Adjucha -> Vast Lords?
No, Menos is the term for all of them. Gillian is the lowest class of menos, adjucha the middle, and vasto lordes the highest.
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Oh yes i really like bleach and it´s the anime where i had my biggest "WTF?!!" moment of all time: the black cat not turning into a man but into a..
Girl?? What the…?
Most Fights and many characters are very cool aswellI don't know, I found Aizen being evil and alive to be a much bigger WTF moment.
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Ugh, has anybody seen that fuck-annoying Bleach commerical that's on Adult Swim now? It's a bunch of screens of Orihime with horrible singing in the background.
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Hahaha, I saw it earlier.
I want to think it's just being ironic, but..
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COME IN COME IN SOMETHING SOMETHING
orihime everywheeeeeeere
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@Cyringohn:
Ugh, has anybody seen that fuck-annoying Bleach commerical that's on Adult Swim now? It's a bunch of screens of Orihime with horrible singing in the background.
I mentioned it earlier in the thread. But yeah…>>
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Not the best way to get people to watch Bleach, but w/e.
For anyone that still cares, the BBB2 site has been updated….alot.
http://www.jp.playstation.com/scej/title/bleach/blade2/index.html
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Reading Ganju's battle against Yumichika again made me realise how much i want to see him again. Last time he was seen was in that shop with hanatarou, in a shinigami soukan (sp?) golden, right?
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Is it just me or is just wrong that Luppi has been confirmed for that game so far and yet Ishida's not? (though if they follow the manga instead of the anime, somehow my head wants to see Aaronielo or the Exquitas)
As for Ganju…the Yumichika fight was rather dull but somehow I liked Ganju's battle style for being something in Soul Society that isn't Zanpakutou related. Heck, I wouldn't even mind seeing Kuukaku's full potential outside manipulating a giant cannon...but obviously their part in the series is over and they aren't Hitsugaya so we won't see them again.