Kakuzu was definitely upper tier Akatsuki. It's basically impossible to go against him one on one and win.
Naruto Mega-Discussion of Extreme Bloat II (May not contain any Naruto Discussion)
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I think the main reason everyone is so "anti-Kakuzu" is the way he went out and how little was done with him compared to other Akatsuki. Most of his fight until Naruto and Yamato returned was pretty much him vs. Kakashi, with slight hits provided by Shikamaru and Choji. And then even when Naruto appeared, he attacked him (well, twice, due to the whole crap with the first failure) with an attack that perfectly manipulated both elemental and form control, something not even Yondaime had done. If a healthy Kakuzu with all five hearts took on anyone alone (even Kakashi), he probably would had crushed them.
Hidan…well OK, he was a moron who had a hack ability but he still did his part and I think his demise was fitting.
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What say we?
What can we say?
Most people one here already said what was needed
especially taboo
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Deidara is badass. That's all.
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Indeed Aldrich indeed. Deidera brought credibility back to Akatsuki.
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Good chapter. And I third the motion of Deidara being a badass.
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I fourth that. This was just…wow.
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@Geg:
Kakuzu was definitely upper tier Akatsuki. It's basically impossible to go against him one on one and win.
Naruto did.
Kakashi probably would have if he used mangekyou.
I don't think he was that good. At least not compared to sasori and deidara.
Leagues above Hidan tho.I remember 2 weeks ago, people were hating kishimoto for writing this fight. XP
WHERE THE DAMN SCANS!!!
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Yah, 'cause it seemed like Sauc was overpowering Deidara really easily, quite the opposite in fact.
Naruto beat Kakuzu with the main character clause.
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Yamato and Kakashi had to save Naruto, that's more like 3 vs 1.
when, after the screw up?
If he didn't screw up, kakuzu would have been dead.
I'm thinking about re-reading the skip when I have nothing better to do, to see if I get a different impression the 2nd time through.
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WHERE THE DAMN SCANS!!!
It's hard to make scans when there are no Japanese raws out. The usual scanner of the raws isn't home this week so we're stuck with Chinese scanlations for basically every series for now.
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I want my free comics damn it!!
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I Want Mah Manga.
Eat Yous!
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You're a bit exaggerated. But yeah, it's totally impossible defend yourself of the C4.
Not necessarily, but you'll have to know what you are dealing with. Sharingan and byakugan could defend against it, both can see the bombs and evade. Plus, I'm willing to bet any absolute defense could defend against it, since you actually have come in contact with it. Or even holding your breath for a long time.
A long shot might also be using a doton and hiding yourself in the ground. The bombs don't seem to effect anything except animals that breath it in.
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lol hay splints
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<3 Hay Geg.
I thought I'd try AP since I haven't been here for over two years, but I find myself gravitating to the Naruto thread. It's like some sort of mental condition. ]:
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It'll do that to the best of us.
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I know.
I guess it's death, or a life long addiction to an orgy of shounen manga plots with main characters that tend to be not all there.
I see no other alternative. I suppose I can try to abstain, but that would require some sort of will power, which the internet has seemed to suck all of it out. ):
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Sasuke can use chidory in his own body to destroy the C1 bugs. It's another option if he doesn't want to be desintegrated.
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Okay, this battle had a ton of great action, but I find Deidara has a blunt and boring character. Hopefully next chapter will wrap this fight up. Its good and all, but honestly I'd rather see Tobi fight or Deidara just die instead of seeing Deidara's "Best" technique, and then pull out another one.
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1. Tobi ran.
2. Art is bang.
I don't see how Deidara is a boring character. I find him to be all kinds of awesome. At least he is different than the "silent cool guy" character personality kishimoto abuses. (Neji, garaa, Shino, Sasuke, Itachi, etc)
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lol Deidara boring.
He's by far the most entertaining character in Naruto, with Tobi a close second only because he showed jack in the fighting department for the moment.
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Yeah dont worry after sasuke loses we will see more fighting out of tobi
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Or proving that he doesn't want to breathe bombs.
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Deidara is indeed awesome, but I hope this fight concludes soon.
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Sweet, C4 emo-sauce smackdown. But seriously, Sasuke should probably lose this fight, at least I hope he does, i'd like to see Akatsuki succeed at killing someone important for once.
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This chapter is kind of ironic because Diedra in some japenese stories is a huge giant. I like how Kishie name is characters and there moves from mythology and other old fables. Other mangas do the same, but it is still pretty cool.
This is by far the best fight in part 2 and arguably the best back and forth fight in the whole manga.
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It's nice to see this fight turning out so well, cause frankly, I've found all of Deidara's fights beforehand to be poorly choreographed.
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Deidara's fight with Gaara was a bit odd looking I agree. Deidara's probably the only character of interest who shows up anymore. Once he's dead I still have Jiraiya and Kisame, and then I'm pretty much out of character to like.
I think this fight will probably turn out being my second favorite, after Gai vs. Kisame. Neither of which can compare to the amazingness of Orochimaru vs. Sarutobi or the Sannin fight.
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This is by far the best fight in part 2 and arguably the best back and forth fight in the whole manga.
Is that because Sasuke is getting his ass kicked right now? Because I can remember just one or two weeks ago when this fight was called uber lame because of Kishimoto's Uchiha boner.
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Is that because Sasuke is getting his ass kicked right now? Because I can remember just one or two weeks ago when this fight was called uber lame because of Kishimoto's Uchiha boner.
I know, isn't that annoying? And people will probably go right back to bashing this fight as soon as Deidara loses. I wonder, is this fight being praised because of it's creative action and incredible abilities, or just cause Sasuke is slightly losing now?
Cause really, this entire fight has been good so far. Seeing Sasuke counter Deidara's explosive bird with his sword was cool, as is Deidara's C4 bombs.
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I'm praising it mostly because Deidara's so awesome. And it is quite nice to see Sasuke have trouble with someone after he defeated Orochimaru with little to no effort.
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I think Deidara is only getting a good fight because he's popular in Japan.
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I think Deidara is only getting a good fight because he's popular in Japan.
Kishimoto is bending to the will of the popularity polls and possibly his editors? …Yeah, makes sense.
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Kishimoto is bending to the will of the popularity polls and possibly his editors? …Yeah, makes sense.
Seeing as how his career is entirely dependent on the will of his editors, of course it ain't surprising.
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I had no idea editors had any say in how a mangaka writes his manga. This probably would explain the Buu Saga and increased fanservice in One Piece. But I'll stop there, I don't wanna be accused of making excuses for mangaka.
Anyways, seems like what I said is slowly becoming true. The Akatsuki members so far (except Sasori and Dei Dei) were the weaker members, and now we're starting to see why they are top notch in the Narutoverse. The final test will be the next few Akatsuki opponents.
Deidara and C4 restored my faith in the Akatsuki.
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Is that because Sasuke is getting his ass kicked right now? Because I can remember just one or two weeks ago when this fight was called uber lame because of Kishimoto's Uchiha boner.
Well, I never said that. I am a Sasuke fan. I was since the beginning of the series. But some people do think fights suck if Sasuke is being "uber" because they dislike his character so much. Ah, well.
Kazu was very elite and Hidan was pretty much unbeatable if you didnt know his skill set before hand. Hidan was a pretty broken character, he was just cocky and stupid and Shika had 6 days to plan everything out just for him.
If it wasnt for Kakashi, Shika and company would of been long dead and same with Naruto.
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This is definitely one of the better fights in the series and Deidara is one of my favorite characters, but I really hope this ends next chapter or the one after. If it goes on for too much longer, it won't be one of the best fights anymore and will just turn into one of those "But I have a super secret jutsu that can beat you!" "But I have an even more super secret jutsu that can beat your super secret jutsu!" etc., etc. fights.
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Kishimoto is bending to the will of the popularity polls and possibly his editors? …Yeah, makes sense.
People keep saying this, and yet I hardly see the signs of Kishimoto bending to popular opinion. Like Sasuke, yeah he's a popular character, but he's also a main character who has gotten his ass kicked throughout part 1 of this manga. I don't see it. If Deidara wasn't doing so good then this fight wouldn't be interesting.
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If Kishi were really a slave to his popularity polls why doesn't Iruka ever do anything? Use your brain a little guys.
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Well Iruka's a special case. According to mystictrunks, Iruka is Kage level. He can curbstomp the whole Narutoverse with ease, so he is left out for plot reasons.
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I'm not fond of Deidara myself, though not because he's boring. I just find him irritating. But at least he's somewhat fun to read, he has good fights.
I probably wouldn't tolerate him as much if there wasn't Tobi there for me to like.
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@Geg:
If Kishi were really a slave to his popularity polls why doesn't Iruka ever do anything? Use your brain a little guys.
Only the fan girls love Iruka since he feeds them with Yaoi material and since they aren't the targeted audience they don't matter.
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Yea, I think more fangirls read naruto and Bleach than males.
Unless the dudes in japan are fags. Why else would byakuya and hitsugaya be in the top 5?
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You'd be surprised at how many males readers would have anal sex with Sasuke for free.
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I started reading 666 Satan by Kishi's twin brother recently. Not bad, does look like Naruto done right somehow. Ball himself (yes, there's a character named Ball) beats the shit out of the entire Naruto cast in sheer awesomeness. The hero is a bland douche who looks like he's out of Kingdom Hearts with his zippers and goofy shoes though.
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I plan to get around to 666 sometime soon. The fact he's Kishi's brother has me intrigued. And better than Tobi and Deidie? Can't wait to see this Ball guy. Probably will check it when the anime premieres.
Anyways, this fight will probably last two or three more chapters if Kishi is smart. The next will probably explain how Dei countered Sasukes Genjutsu then end with a cliff of Sasuke using "that jutsu". Then Naruto and co. will arrive.
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Much better, the fight will end next chapter. Sasuke only will use "that jutsu" when he fights with Naruto again. Then Naruto will use "that jutsu" too. I think so.