Just a reminder to all, don't post spoilers and don't quote posts with spoilers. Maybe you guys are just new, but that's a serious offense on this board and will result in the loss of posting privileges, and in worst cases, the b&hammer.
So stop.
Just a reminder to all, don't post spoilers and don't quote posts with spoilers. Maybe you guys are just new, but that's a serious offense on this board and will result in the loss of posting privileges, and in worst cases, the b&hammer.
So stop.
What exactly WAS the spoiler?
@Gerchak:
What exactly WAS the spoiler?
You force us to say it huh :
First post, it's still there.. =( SPOILER so don't look if you.. oh you know already ><
EDIT:
Ah wait, you mean it's so obvious it's not a spoiler? Or something like that? O_O
@Rai:
You force us to say it huh :
First post, it's still there.. =( SPOILER so don't look if you.. oh you know already ><EDIT:
Ah wait, you mean it's so obvious it's not a spoiler? Or something like that? O_O
It's so obvious it is a bit funny to think people are freaking out about it. If you really wanna spoil it for yourself Gerchak, look under Gecko Moria's bio. I am not going to take it off though, since the new chapter and RAW's come out soon so it's sort of pointless to take it off when we probably get to read it within less than 48 hours. Im sorry about this nonetheless, I forgot about spoilers shouldn't be taken out of the spoiler discussion threads until the new chapter is out.
It's so obvious it is a bit funny to think people are freaking out about it.
This isn't freaking out. Ha ha ha, you should be thankful e1n's not a mod anymore.
What exactly WAS the spoiler?
luffy learns water gun FOR GREAT JUSTICE!!?
No not you. Some people were like "What the fuck are you talking about" and "Dammit! Spoiler" It is a bit obvious… you should have seen what the spoilers revealed coming.
what happened to discussing the shichibukais?
Jimbei > DoFlamingo!
I turn you to Wikipedia, little man, where it shows Thriller Bark with the crew. And the crew has no official name, so we'll just call them 'Thriller Bark'.
Capiche?
When you need a name to call something something… Wh en you've not heard "Moria's Pirates" or "Zombie Crew" or anything like that in the script... You have to use what is passed to you by the script. The place is called "Thriller Bark" so you can only use that name. You can't do anything otherwise on wikipedia.
If we call it "Moria's Pirates" or "Zombie Crew" we'd either be forced to change it due to no evidience for the name to Thriller Bark, or have it deleted for incorrectness. Or some other reason...
It is for that reason Kuro's Pirates are "Black Cat Pirates", Don Krieg's "Don Krieg's Pirate Armada", Foxy's "Foxy's Pirates". Etc, etc, etc. You can only called them by a name from the script.
Okay, since the Scanlation RAWs are out along with script. The Kage Kage no mi and bounty is going back up. Discuss.
@Fire Fist:
With Moria's introduction and his obvious laziness, we have a little more to work on with this:
Doflamingo: Envy
Crocodile: Greed
B. Kuma: Wrath (?)
Moria: Sloth
Mihawk: Pride
Jimbei: Gluttony (?)
Unknown: Lust (?)Kuma and Jimbei don't particularly strike me as the kind to be lustful. Doflamingo in his own right is very envious of dreaming pirates, Crocodile was very Greedy and went to extreme means to obtain an entire nation as his own; Moria is obviously very slothful, considering his personal motto and his constant sleeping; Mihawk is very arrogant and Prideful, whether he has the right to be or not. We haven't seen much of B. Kuma to make a judgement, but we do know he is a huge man who carries a bible. That's all. He doesn't particularly strike me as lustful, though.
Whale Sharks are filter feeders and eat a TON of food, so Gluttony makes a good guess for him.
Perhaps it's just coincidence, but who knows? I mean, put in the right context, it would make sense if the Shichibukai DID represent the 7 deadly sins. Part of finding One Piece could be the Absolution of Sin.
I've brought FFA ideas in here about revamp of Shichibukai representing 7 deadly Sin..
*Question:
#1. Which is the greatest Sin??
#2. Also, he- who- bear- the- greatest- Sin would be the strongest Shichibukai??
=I bet he- who -bear- the- lust [Last to reveal] will be the ultimate badass shichibukai:happy:
http://groups.msn.com/onepiecemanga/onepiecechapter19.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=418
I STILL think THIS GUY is the final Shichibukai:
http://groups.msn.com/onepiecemanga/onepiecechapter19.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=418
Jimbei strikes me as more suiteble for pride then Mihawk. mainly because of all this Mermen are naturally greater then humans crap arlong was sprouting.
also Moria kinda suits Greed just as well as Croc since he too wants to be PK and hes biting off more then he can chew and all with the stealing of luffys shadow.
Since croc had the smallest bounty he could represent Envy just as well as greed imo.
Personally i dont belive in the 7 deadly sin theory. i think that they can have traits similar to the sins but i dont think there will be an intent behind it from Oda.
Jimbei strikes me as more suiteble for pride then Mihawk. mainly because of all this Mermen are naturally greater then humans crap arlong was sprouting.
also Moria kinda suits Greed just as well as Croc since he too wants to be PK and hes biting off more then he can chew and all with the stealing of luffys shadow.
Since croc had the smallest bounty he could represent Envy just as well as greed imo.Personally i dont belive in the 7 deadly sin theory. i think that they can have traits similar to the sins but i dont think there will be an intent behind it from Oda.
No, Moria is definitely Sloth. His personal motto, for crying out loud, is "You do it". And it says he relies on others to achieve his goal. He tells his crew to hurry up and make him pirate king. THAT'S lazy.
Croc had no one to be envious with, he was wealthy a respected. Doflamingo wants to get rid of dreamers because he's very obviously jealous of other dreamers.
Jimbei could be pride, but it's more fitting for Mihawk. Mihawk considers others worthless and beneath him.
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=) =P ^^
as far as the 7 deadly sins goes,
Doflamingo: Pride
Crocodile: Pride
B. Kuma: Pride
Moria: Pride
Mihawk: Pride
Jimbei: Pride
Unknown: Pride
oh yea first post, lurked here for like a year, sup
@spoo!:
as far as the 7 deadly sins goes,
Doflamingo: Pride
Crocodile: Pride
B. Kuma: Pride
Moria: Pride
Mihawk: Pride
Jimbei: Pride
Unknown: Prideoh yea first post, lurked here for like a year, sup
Well, every villian/major character has pride to an extent, but what I meant by their correlation to the sins was their dominant trait. For example, Moria is very lazy, an indication of Sloth. Crocodile was very money obsessed and had enormous wealth, making him Greedy. Mihawk is very Prideful and considers most people worthless or lacking in ability.
I actually had a thread about the seven deadly sins before you FFA. You can see… it was locked before yours...
Anyway, I think it would be rather proper to add this.
NEW STUFF : Kaidou : Beat Moria in New World… A possibly final Shichibukai? I would like if someone could find out if Kaidou is an animal in japanese
900 : Why did Moria pick him especially? What is this shichibukai's full intention? Was this "Oz" a past Yonkou or Shichibukai? Discuss.
I don't believe that OZ or whatever is affiliated with either the YonKou or Ouka Shichubukai. It would be too much if ODA unleashes Two big guns during this Arc.
@Sea:
I don't believe that OZ or whatever is affiliated with either the **YonKou or Ouka Shichubukai. It would be too much if ODA unleashes Two big guns during this Arc.
Re_al_ly, well i don't know, it would be pretty cool if Oda pulled it off, but it might not work very well.**
I am still not too convinced about the shichibukai being the seven deadly sins, as I mentioned they all are guilty of pride, geko is lazy and crocodile was greedy. other than that we have yet to see their personalities. If I was to link the 7 sins to any group in one piece it would be the strawhats themselves
Luffy: Gluttony
Zoro: Sloth
Nami: Greed
Usopp: Envy
Sanji: Lust
Robin: Pride (doesn't fit too well, but she is the smartest person in the world)
Franky: Wrath (looking at his violent outbursts in the past)
Chopper: Is an animal and animals are not judged for their sins, lack souls (in catholic beliefs anyway)
edit: I am not saying the strawhats are evil, just they match up to the sins almost perfectly while the shichibukai are 3/7
Ussop is pride, not Robin.
@Sea:
I don't believe that OZ or whatever is affiliated with either the YonKou or Ouka Shichubukai.
Considering that he died 500 years ago it is pretty much clear that Oz is not affiliated with any of the current powers.
I have a feeling that either Kaidou is either a Yonkou or a shichibukai… Anybody else think the same?
I think its a seaking! (possibly Whitebeards bath toy: yellow rubber ducky)
It would be interesting to see Kaidou be a merman, like the main antagonist for merman island.
Which is pretty unlikely seeing it that Kaidoh is in the New World and Fishman Island is just the next stop after the Florian Triangle.
Pandaman (Possibly for a joke, but later taken out)
What are talking about?
Pandaman is SO obviously the final shicibukai!
Think about it, he's always in the bloody backround every chapter spying on the strawhats, so he has some kind of shichibukai scheme.
Looking at his muscles, I'd say he is very strong. Not as strong as Mihawk or Gecko Moria, but maybe he's just the weakest shichibukai.
And lastly, HE HAS AN ANIMAL NAME! …AND HEAD!
If he's not the final shichibukai then ladies and gentlemen I don't know who else could be.
I would think that maybe Kaidouh is Jimbei's right hand man then. Pandaman actually would be a really cool shichibukai. It would be awesome if he had a panda zoan fruit.
I would think that maybe Kaidouh is Jimbei's right hand man then.
Except that wouldn't make any sense.
Re_al_ly, well i don't know, it would be pretty cool if Oda pulled it off, but it might not work very well.
NeEdS MoAR sPArKlES AnD :3 sMILeYs ^_^
NeEdS MoAR sPArKlES AnD :3 sMILeYs ^_^
OMFG SHUT UP NUB.
Shout out my boy Moria and my girl OneINCHpunch.
She got an inch for yo grinch, if ya know whatt i mean.
Who knighted Sir Crocodile?
think it is just a honorific given to him by the people?
either that or cobra knighted him for saveing his people so many times.
Sir's his last name. DUH.
I have a feeling that either Kaidou is either a Yonkou or a shichibukai… Anybody else think the same?
Not me.
I don't know if "Kaidou" is the name of the person that defeated Moria, or if it's a designation for some pirate rank, but Moria says that if he had had this power (Luffy) before, he wouldn't have lost to him.
So we learn here two important things:
That means that Moria won't be the main opponent here (like Spandam wasn't in the previous arc)…
This kinda pisses me off… We've got this huge grandiose view of the Shichibukai, considering them as the super-elite, as they're likely to only be overshadowed by the Yonkou. I mean, when it was said that Moria is a Shichibukai, people pee'd their pants. Now we've got some scraps of information on him which quickly took that impression away, those being: A) he's lazy bum B) he looks retarded C) he's not a giant after all.
Personally, I really hope that Moria will turn out to put up quite the fight. I just don't want to see him tarnishing the name of Shichibukai. :<
That means that Moria won't be the main opponent here (like Spandam wasn't in the previous arc)…
I have had that impression since his slogan "you do it" was revealed.
I also like the prospect of a shichibukai not reaching his status because of combat abilities (like Mr 3 surpassed Mr 4 even though he was weaker).
Sea Kings are those massive big ass sea monsters so I'm thinking of fishman who are half-man, half-seaking.
Wait, screw that, half-giant and half-sea king.
That would be the sex.
This kinda pisses me off… We've got this huge grandiose view of the Shichibukai, considering them as the super-elite, as they're likely to only be overshadowed by the Yonkou. I mean, when it was said that Moria is a Shichibukai, people pee'd their pants. Now we've got some scraps of information on him which quickly took that impression away, those being: A) he's lazy bum B) he looks retarded C) he's not a giant after all.
I don´t see any problem in having a Shichibukai overshadowed after all. Ever since the introduction of Whitebeard it was clear that he´s on top of the food chain and as strong as other guys might be they at best come close to him. That knowledge however didn´t stop anybody of us considering Enel or Rucchi to be die hard antagonists for Luffy. That didn´t stop us from seeing Aokiji as an uber monster that is far superior from Luffy.
The Shichibukai are still super strong. But they´ve never been the top of the food chain. If they would be then there´d be no reason for them to make deals with the WG.
A thought occurred to me.
If the zombie is a female, a man can sprinkle salt on his penis and have sex with her. This would help the man achieve both of his desires.
Sea Kings are those massive big ass sea monsters so I'm thinking of fishman who are half-man, half-seaking.
Wait, screw that, half-giant and half-sea king.
That would be the sex.
i wonder which is more perverse… necrophiliacy or giant beastility...
What has Big Pan?
Half fishman and half giant?
Half Sea King would be mega awesome though.
I don't know if "Kaidou" is the name of the person that defeated Moria, or if it's a designation for some pirate rank, but Moria says that if he had had this power (Luffy) before, he wouldn't have lost to him.
So we learn here two important things:
- that that Kaidou is not that strong because Moria thinks that Luffy can defeat him;
That #900 can defeat him, not Luffy.
- and that Luffy is stronger than Moria because Moria wants to use him to defeat people like the one that defeated him.
AGAIN, #900.
Between mihawk and blackbeard i chose blackbeard because it looks as if he is going to be an endboss considering his great ambitions and that shanks feared he could even defeat whitebeard.
provided that he is really receiving shichibukai status, of course.
Elaboration preffered.
What about a random name would make you think of such a random possible person as the possible existing second hand man of a different Shichibukai who we know virtually nothing about to begin with who is specifically in the New World?
Between mihawk and blackbeard i chose blackbeard because it looks as if he is going to be an endboss considering his great ambitions and that shanks feared he could even defeat whitebeard.
provided that he is really receiving shichibukai status, of course.
Ideally I'd like the top 3 Shichibukai to be 1-Blackbeard, 2-Mihawk, 3-Unknown one. Blackbeard and Mihawk are shaping up to be the endbosses for the top 2 Strawhats, so it makes sense. As for the 3rd, I wouldn't like DoFlamingo and Jinbei to be too powerful, so yeah, I hope the one who has yet to be introduced is a monster.
Honestly Blackbeard doesn't seem to me like he is on the level of Whitebeard. He seems he's a few notches below them. For now.
Now we've got some scraps of information on him which quickly took that impression away, those being: A) he's lazy bum B) he looks retarded C) he's not a giant after all.
Yeah Gecko Moria is certainly not a fearsome fighter who could probably ruin the majority of Luffy's previous opponents in a matter of seconds because he isn't a brooding bishonen and he's a lazy fuck. Admiral Aokiji says hi.
The difference between Gecko and Aojiki appears to be Aojiki may be lazy… But he does some of his own work himself (water 7 + Robin). Gecko gets other to do it himself and all he appears to do is take a shadow - once someone else has got the person for him.
Yeah, this has nothing to do with the fact we've seen Aokiji's actions for more than a hundred chapters while Gecko Moria has been introduced last week.
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