I think I heard some Movie 6 music in there…
Official RAW Discussion II
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The episode was pretty good, despite the interruption at the end. It's good to see that scarface has a dark red uniform as opposed to the basic white one, at least Toei didn't screw that over.
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Wow, he does have a non-white coat? That´s really cool. How about the eye? Was it really the doubtful shadow thingy or is it permanentally black? Well at least Toei played along with Oda´s intention to have him stand out by the robe he wears.
And thanks for the info on the SM raw. I guess I can abort the download then. Doesn´t hurt me to wait, I just hope that there will be a raw without the broadcast.
Btw, good to hear that you´re fine Greg. :happy:
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I need Gear 3…. Gonna go Hulk... People will be hurt..... D:
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Wow, he does have a non-white coat? That´s really cool. How about the eye? Was it really the doubtful shadow thingy or is it permanentally black? Well at least Toei played along with Oda´s intention to have him stand out by the robe he wears.
And thanks for the info on the SM raw. I guess I can abort the download then. Doesn´t hurt me to wait, I just hope that there will be a raw without the broadcast.
Btw, good to hear that you´re fine Greg. :happy:
As for the eye, they changed it slightly, instead of the eye being black, there is a shadow over it. Imagine that picture of his face from the preview, but with a shadow covering that section of his face.
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I see…. I think in the next cool filler episode Oyabun Luffy will face up against Foxy and his crew. And I think the episode is based off of when the Americans first went to Japan for trade. (I got most of this knowledge by watching Samurai Champloo Baseball Blues)
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As for the eye, they changed it slightly, instead of the eye being black, there is a shadow over it. Imagine that picture of his face from the preview, but with a shadow covering that section of his face.
You mean an effect like this? If that´s the case then I can live with it. Not that it is the perfect solution (that would be to just keep it as it is) but at least a shadow doesn´t mean that the white eye isn´t there while the black eye clearly is a contradiction to it. At least the change means that Toei either has noticed by themselves or due to fan-mails that the thing from the last episodes preview wasn´t a good idea.
I can live with the face not looking as much as that of an old hound as it does in the manga if the coat and the eye thing get respectively got changed.
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omfg, I pray that someone can upload a DDL link for this episode. Or even megaupload. The Saiyaman torrent has been stuck at 0.1 for twenty minutes.
please! :(
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So there wont be any releases that dont have that earthquake warning, like the hd one? Does anyone know if or when the episode will reair?
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Judging by the time left before the preview when it was cut off. Roughly 3 minutes of episode.
The very furthest the episode could have reached would have been Luffy saying Gear Third. So I can be patient now.
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Its not about Gear 3, well eventually see it anyway. Its about having the whole episode intact.
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@Skull:
Its not about Gear 3, well eventually see it anyway. Its about having the whole episode intact.
That'll come eventually. Not missing all that much of the episode and nothing big happens in those last 3 and a half minutes.
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Im sure whatever we missed wil lbe at the beginning of next ep. Toei loves their 10 minute recaps. Im not worried about it, Im sure we'll get to see it sooner or later. As someone else said there might be a raw later this week. I mean we'll just have to wait I guess.
for what you people DID see, was it a good episode and do we know for sure if we missed Gear 3rd ornot? Wouldn't that be something.
Luffy: GEAR THIRD
switches to earthquake footagelol luffy's gear third is too powerful XD
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The Saiyaman RAW is fullscreen, but the resolution is 720x480 for some reason, so the aspect ration is off and everything is stretched horizontally. FYI, the full earthquake news coverage starts at 19:39, although they start flashing up text and graphics about it earlier.
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lol luffy's gear third is too powerful XD
you know I didn't mean to imply that but yeah that's funny.
ahahaha, what's funny is when Lucci is talking about what he's doing by flooding the room and there's an arrow pointing to the diagram but it looks like it's pointing at the earthquake map.
Lucci: First I will cause an earthquake in Japan!
really though I don't complain much but Toei just… really dissapoints me with Gear 2nd. It looks terrible in this episode. Really terrible, and so does Luffy avoiding Lucci's shigans. It's like they're not even trying anymore. Yeah I know it's free and I know i shouldn't complain but even I'm getting sick of it now.
So here's my question:
Are the fansubbers going to sub the earthquake stuff too or no?EDIT:
Interesting, check this out:
This is from the preview of episode 302
and this is from the episode itself:
DUH DUH DUUUUNN!
Im sure the scene doesn't happen later on, so I wonder… I wonder what's up with that. -
What we have of this episode is actually pretty crappy. The animation of Gear 2 during the Luffy/Lucci fight looked really bad, and what was up with that 5-minute filler of Robin and Franky fighting a bunch of marines on the bridge? That whole thing was really poorly done. It looked like they just threw that together at the last minute.
Plus given where the episode was when it cut off, I'm thinking the episode proper ended at the very end of chapter 420, meaning this episode only covered like 15 pages of manga.
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Spandam and the Marine soldiers looked butt ugly.
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Does anybody have screenshots of VA Scarface? I don't feel like downloading the raw and I want to see how he looks like since apparently he's different than in his poor preview showing. Thanks in advance.
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I have the raw and i can take screenshots with vlc, however i am completely inept at posting pictures in the forums, i have a screen name for AIM in my profile, i'd be more than happy to send them over instant messanger or email them to you if you like.
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Here you go:
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Thanks both. That "shadow" is retarded.
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cool,i think that gives a pretty good sense of the design, although they seriously could've darkened the hair quite a bit to dark brown or black and it would have looked much better.
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aww come on, no one's gonna say anything about my discovery?
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Thanks for the screen shots FlapperPower. Yeah, that shadow in fact is stupid considering that it lays over another shadow by the very same cap. One object, one sun, two shadows???
But anyways, as dull as it is I still prefer the shadow over the black eye thingy from the preview. The shadow at least allows a white eye to be beneath while the black eye rules that out.
But still I can´t be really happy with it. I mean, what in the world is so bad (or should I say "evil") about the white eye that it has to be censored? I really don´t see any logic in it. Especially not if Toei considered to have an empty eye hole to be a proper solution for whatever might be problematic with the white eye. Weird
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Wait…so they put a shadow over Scarface's eye instead of it being all white without a pupil? What a bunch of shit! It was so bad ass.
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Eureka, I finally know why I thought the anime version made him look a bit younger then the manga version, it´s the mouth! In the manga version his lips are always bent downwards which give him a more reserved calculating expression of an old hound while that gets taken away in the anime. It may not be a biggie as the eye matter but still it is something that´s different then in the manga.
Hopefully they didn´t screw my favorite Vice Admiral up.
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Is it just me, is it the resolution or is this the worst drawn episode ever? look at Franky and the Marines on the Bridge… they look like a fanfic.
additionally do I suspect right that the (very short) preview at the end foreshadows another completely-out-of-story-samurai-age-filler? -
Is it just me, is it the resolution or is this the worst drawn episode ever? look at Franky and the Marines on the Bridge… they look like a fanfic.
additionally do I suspect right that the (very short) preview at the end foreshadows another completely-out-of-story-samurai-age-filler?yes and yes
and if someone would at least acknowledge my discovery and say they saw it and noticed it too I'd feel better
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Quexinos, nice discovery! Good eye there.
Any word on a non-earthquake raw?
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Quexinos, nice discovery! Good eye there.
OH YEAH who's your daddy?! that's right, everybody do the Quexinos!
or not >.>
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Wow. I never even noticed that his right eye was white.
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Thanks both. That "shadow" is retarded.
lol it is…no such angle can make the shadow look like that lol
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Quexinos, nice discovery! Good eye there.
Any word on a non-earthquake raw?
If the episode only airs a single time and theres no reruns like I'm guessing, I don't see how anyone could get one. :sad:
I'm hoping I'm wrong though.
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So I take it Toei doesn't have an online website where you can view the latest OP episodes. sigh I really looked forward to seeing how Gear 3rd looked.
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im sure it'll be out on DVD someday =P
and judging by how slow this arc is gong, and how much filler they've had and where the episode was when the earthquake stuff started vs where it is in the manga, I don't think we missed any Gear 3rd. AT MOST Luffy might have just said "gear 3rd"
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Japan needs to reair episodes, and if they ever did, someone seriously should be fixing the ones that are messed up. Like this one and 210.
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what was wrong with 210?
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If the episode only airs a single time and theres no reruns like I'm guessing, I don't see how anyone could get one.
I think it's already been said multiple times in the thread, but OP airs at different dates around the country depending on where one lives in Japan ever since the move from Sunday night.
Where I live it was actually 4 weeks behind Tokyo before they pulled it off the air entirely.
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what was wrong with 210?
Part of it is messed up (jumbled pixels, etc) on the only ws raw I've seen out. Particularly the part 10 minutes and 55 seconds in, with Nami rowing.
If 302 did air multiple times, lets pray the guy who does the HD got a good version.
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you know guys I'm convinced now that they did NOT reach Gear 3rd in this episode. By the pacing of the episode there's just no way at all.
Im guessing it ended with Lucci telling Luffy his nakama would die.
! I bet the first gear 3rd punch will be the middle of the next arc episode. Like he'll punch him then COMMERCIAL!
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you know guys I'm convinced now that they did NOT reach Gear 3rd in this episode. By the pacing of the episode there's just no way at all.
Im guessing it ended with Lucci telling Luffy his nakama would die.
! I bet the first gear 3rd punch will be the middle of the next arc episode. Like he'll punch him then COMMERCIAL!
Actually, Lucci tells him that about 30 seconds before the earthquake coverage cuts in.
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Next episode is definitely the Spring Special. Buggy and Foxy will be in it.
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Next episode is definitely the Spring Special. Buggy and Foxy will be in it.
There'd better be more than that. These Edo specials were fun when we could go "OMG ZoRo iz Teh R0N1N!!11" and get all excited about seeing old characters interact out of character. Then the New Year's Specials try to stand on their own, with the only new additions being Mr. 3 (gah) and Cobra (double gah).
To paraphrase my rant: "Give me Geisha Bon Clay!"
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There'd better be more than that.
Or else?
I dunno what everyone is expecting but that's what you're getting. Can't you wait one more week?
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Not "better be more that that" as in I will burn something down to the ground, I-am-the-fury kind of thing. "Better be more than that" as in I sincerely hope that they are holding out on the juicy details.
I can wait. I just don't have as much faith in Toei as I used to.
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we really shouldn't be so angry about the Edo specials or the Ommision of Gear 3rd, I mean, it sucks but there is nothing we can do.
I, personally have no problem waiting, I've gotten used to it with the Hellsing OVAs.
and, not seing Any Gear 3rd this week really sucked, but with Toei's LONG recaps as of late and the Fact that Gear 3rd is one of those big things that's usually the main focus of the Recaps ANYWAY, I think the 3 mintues we lost will show it's self, we just have to wait it out
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Man, this may be a bit off topic here, but I REALLY wish Toei animated Enies Lobby the way they handled the beggining of Water 7. To me, the quality of those episodes was perfect, exactly how One Piece should look animated. Now Enies Lobby, that is a great example of how One Piece should not look. The animation and overall look of the anime is almost painful. I dont want it to look like I am nitpicking, but what the heck happened? Save for a few episodes like the first time with Gear 2, possibly Sanji vs. Jabura, and Franky's SUPA fight with Furkurou, the rest of the episodes is just fodder for the "Poorly Drawn" thread. Did Toei's animation budget shoot up during Water 7, then die down progressively?
Rant over. Allright now on topic, I did not download the Raw of 302, but the episode got cut off by the earthquake warning? Is that piece of animation lost until the DVD comes out, or what? Oh man, and I can not WAIT to see Gear 3. I dont mind another Edo special too much, especially if Foxy is in it (Foxy is always a good thing!), but didn't they just have a couple Edo specials like a month ago? Well, more time for the manga to get ahead I guess.
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FUCK
WE DID
NOT
MISS
GEAR
THIRD!
go back and read the manga. Read it. There's a scene with the marines, then a scene with Nami and Kokoro, and then there's much more Luffy vs Lucci fight and THEN gear third. Theree's no way they did all of it in three minutes. The next episode is called "Whatever whatever, Gear Third is activated" for a reason. Luffy ACTIVATES it in the next episode!
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I remember it's something like "If I don't defeat you, no one will be saved"
Luffy says that, that's a line he says almost right before he activates Gear Third. Now it wouldn't make sence if he said that AND activated it in the previous episode would it? So use your heads seriously this "OMG WE MISSED GEAR THIRD!" is getting old.SakuraDestiny -
! I mean after they jump up into the other room and Lucci says something like "Go ahead and save them" and Luffy's all "Not a chance!"
EDIT 2: 16. 16 pages between when the episode was cut off to Gear Third. Some of it is action that'd take a few minutes to show. We did not miss it, I mean 16 pages in 3 minutes? no way. I do want to change one thing I said before though.
! I bet the episode ends when the Buster Call shows up
and before anyone goes "All right we get it, calm down" or whatever… err just don't XD
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sorry, I shoulda been more clear about what I was saying. I realize, that if anything, we missed Luffy going "Gear Third" and that is probabily where it ended. I mean, when he activated Gear 2nd for the First time, it showed him ACTIVATE it and then the next Ep was called "For the Sake of Protecting my Nakama, Gear 2nd is in Motion" so I assumed we had activation at least.
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I don't think we even missed that to be honest. I mean the next episode implies that he activates it then, not that it all ready is activated. Either way, we didn't miss it so people should stop saying we did